I think Jack is way too impatient and frantic when he jerks himself off, so he convinces Ryan to do it for him. Ryan eventually says yes because he’d do anything for his brother, and he takes the time to give Jack the most satisfying orgasm he can. He loves how sweet and sleepy and affectionate Jack is afterward, complimenting and hugging him.
And the dom part of Jack loves how Ryan watches him in such a pathetic way as he does it, and how Ryan worries about how wrong it must be, but gets hard every time, too. Ryan won’t let Jack touch his cock, but he wants to so, so bad.
And I think one day Jack is feeling particularly vulnerable, and kisses Ryan really sweetly afterward, and it freaks Ryan out because it’s such a soft and romantic thing, which somehow feels even more wrong than everything else, and Jack just holds him down and covers Ryan’s face in kisses and tells him how much he loves him, until he gives in and starts begging Jack for more.
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I have been putting off talking about this idea cause I wasn't sure if people would like it or not, but seeing your latest fic I just thought, well, lets just get it out lol
So. Basically, Ryan's underage. He is 15, while Adam's 19.
Jack was as a sleepover at a friends house, when Ryan suddenly crawls into Adam’s bed in the middle of the night. Adam wakes up, confused, but is met with Ryan confessing to him, saying he likes Adam but doesn't want him to hate him along that he desperately wants Adam to be the one to take his virginity.
Adam’s shocked at all the confessions Ryan's making, but calms Ryan down. He tells Ryan that he isn't mad at him, but that Ryan's still a minor while Adam's an adult along with Ryan not even being old enough to even have sex. Ryan whispers that he doesn't care and just needs Adam right now, telling him about the fact that he has an erection that's making him extremely uncomfortable. Adam's not sure what to do, because god, he hated to admit it, but he did find Ryan cute. A little too much to be him just loving his little brother. But that made him a predator, didn't it..? He completely hates himself for it, but Ryan coming to him, begging him for the very thing he was telling himself was making him a monster, he allowed himself to just help Ryan with his erection by giving him a hand-job/blow-job(whatever is wanted), convincing himself it was just him being a good brother and helping Ryan not be uncomfortable.
Well, it only makes Ryan want him even more from just how much he loved being touched, and the fic continues with Adam figuring out how the hell to deal with the situation, because Ryan was only getting more and more reliant on him for his erections.
Ok because the thing is, think of the absolute burning GUILT that Adam would feel, he would HATE himself, but at the same time he would feel obligated to help his brother. And after doing this once, all he’ll be able to think about is how it’s all his fault that Ryan is developing this dependency, and not know how to stop.
And of course part of him doesn’t want to stop, because he finds Ryan so adorable and easy to hold and caress and love, so I think he would REALLY lean into that excuse of “obligation” in his mind (and maybe out loud, too, if anyone ever sees them together in bed, or if he confesses in the midst of panic attack over it to someone).
Oughh. The absolute SHAME and ANGST. And poor Ryan…
I wanted to finally do that small analysis on Carcrash duo’s mutual obsession.
So like, if you just look at them, you’ll already see Limo constantly going crazy over wanting to get to his son. And it’s rather easy to interpret this as a one-sided emotional dependency, because Semo always seems calm.
But... It is mutual!
Semo’s entire identity is so often simplified to “Limo’s adoptive son”, even by Semo himself.
In the first season, when Limo was still a villain, he never once mentioned Semo, not even when he got arrested. But the first important thing we learn about Semo (bcs before the revelation, he was kinda just a rude kid who lived with the twins now) is that he is Limo’s son.
And even outside of the narrative showing him this way, Semo also only ever thinks of Limo in all arcs focused on him. S.03, s14... He never got a character development arc focused on him that wasn’t centered around his need to save his father.
He constantly uses his prosthetic hand for all the cool, important stuff. It’s made by Limo too. There is such a deep, unsettling intimacy in “owing” someone part of your body, and Semo doesn’t seem to mind at all.
That’s the thing, I think.
Their obsession shows up in different ways, but it’s mutual.
Limo’s is active, crazy, intense and overwhelming. Semo is all he ever thinks about after s08 when he came into the tobot team—yet, he has his own arcs about his life, before and after Semo.
Semo’s obsession is also intense, but it’s quiet. It’s complete and utter devotion to his guardian. It’s his savior complex being multiplied 100× whenever Limo is in danger, and him getting defensive whenever anyone suggests Limo might be the danger. He has friendships and conflict with his friends, but in the end, it leads back to the man who practically gave him a second birth.
My theory is that before HoD, Limo was made aware of how obsessive and codependent his relationship with Semo was, so he made active efforts to break their patterns and ended up putting a wall between them instead, and that’s why they’re Like That in HoD.
Really normal guy who takes any opportunity to hold and maybe kiss his brother’s hand and tells a huge audience that said brother might do something dirty to a doll of him and spits water on him and slaps his ass like he’s domming him in front of us
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ok so there's not too much of a plot rn, just an element that would be fun to include i think. inspired from that interview clip of Ryan going "Adam, big penis" and the microcest prompt you reblogged recently. it would be more of a character/dynamic study, but the idea that Ryan and Adam have had this incestuous relationship for years that sorta started when they were teens. Ryan going through puberty and getting the talk but he's too embarrassed to talk about it with his parents, so he talks to Adam instead. and the lines blur between boys being boys etc. and something more twisted. like Ryan does comment on how much bigger Adam is compared to him. and he gets randomly horny and maybe he talks to Adam about how he has a hard time actually getting off cause he's still learning what his body responds to and things kinda snowball into Adam showing him how to jerk off. for Adam he keeps justifying it in his mind cause he's just being a good brother and helping Ryan out but he also loves how Ryan is always going to him for questions about this and he wants more of his help, and Ryan kinda thinks that maybe it's not normal but he'd not upset about it and Adam doesn't stop them, and if it was wrong he would, so it's fine. and like the fic itself takes place in the future, whatever era you want, and they have a sort of dom/sub dynamic, and Ryan's only able to orgasm to Adam's touch and they've gone too far to turn back now, and Adam has for the most part made peace with it and relishes in the infulence he has over Ryan, and Ryan by now knows this is wrong but whenever he starts worrying about it Adam calms him down, and says it's okay cause they're different, they just can't tell anyone, especially Jack.
ofc it's all fiction, i just think that sort of backstory for them would be really interesting
I SEE YOUR VISION. And I am on board, because let’s be real, if this was a genuine, unhealthy relationship, what are the odds that it may have started when they were in their teens, when Ryan was much more impressionable? If anything I think that’s MORE likely.
Anyway, I love this and I would read the hell out of it. It’s a really interesting dynamic for them, and one that I find very believable. How does it affect the nostalgia they clearly have as adults for their childhood? How does it affect Ryan’s relationship with Jack? There’s SO much to dig into here.
i've had an Ryan/Adam concept floating around in my head for a while but i'm worried it's too far ;-;
I’m not going to judge you or the concept at all, even if it’s not my thing. It’s all fiction! If it’s very DDDNE I will tag it really thoroughly.
