#dicktalia

Talia al Ghul/Dick Grayson:

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Hal Jordan/Clark Kent:

1) they’ve been going on dates for decades both in-universe and counting chronologically IRL and literally no one talks about it

2) Hal and Clark call each other the best of the League and are shown to admire each other so so much on multiple occasions

3) when Hal is the Spectre, he says that Clark “gazed with clear eyes, at all my flaws and imperfections…and accepted me, and somehow that’s helped me…to accept myself” and Clark calls Hal family and tells Hal’s niece that he always looked up to her uncle

4) after Hal is revived and Green Lantern again, Clark is ALWAYS the first person to defend Hal and to vouch for him, especially against his paranoid bestie Batman

General AU science:

It’s an A/B/O universe where couples are not a natural thing, instead the social norm are romantic trios (traditionally alpha-beta-omega).

Other types of trios (non alpha-beta-omega) or groups with more or less than three just fall under the queer umbrella regardless of the primary gender of those involved.

Children can only be naturally conceived with three people involved (how you ask? some pseudo-science where threesome sex somehow allows alphas to contribute sperm, betas contribute eggs and omegas contribute an actual womb, either way the kids have DNA from all three parents).

The usual bites and bonds things still apply but with unique variations, so do the scents, heats and ruts things.

Packs and families are not mutually exclusive, packs carry the same emotional weight as found family whether they are related by blood or not, blood relatives aren’t necessarily pack.

Now, on to the actual Bat Fam universe ideas:

Thomas and Martha Wayne were alpha and beta respectively and their omega spouse was actually Alfred Pennyworth-Wayne, who came to the Wayne house as a servant when Martha and Thomas had just started seeing each other and it led to a torrid romance and marriage that the media made a scandal of. Either way, as a result Alfred is one of Bruce’s biological parents.

On the day the Waynes die, Alfred is also there but somehow survives and raises Bruce alone from then on. Alfred isn’t more of a parent to Bruce just because of the blood connection, it’s actually the social angle that changes things- there’s no master-servant barrier there at all, no social hierarchy, no pretense. Alfred inherits part of the Wayne estate as a widower and raises his son, plain and simple.

Alfred still enables Bruce immensely and even encourages the Batman thing, probably even more than in canon, because he too is pretty traumatized by the death of his partners and understand the need for justice.

So Bruce does grow up to become Batman but due to Alfred’s influence and a far more open and loving relationship between them he becomes a different type of person and far less edgy and emotionally distant. Still dark and depressed though because so is Alfred, he did loose his mates after all. 

In fact, Alfred takes a much bigger role in the whole vigilante business himself because he’s just as invested as Bruce (but a lot more clear headed and experienced). Instead of Alfred just showing support by being an enabler, he actively participates as an accomplice with his military and espionage background serving to train Bruce and later the robins, he also becomes mission control and a family spy (basically he has a Matches-style character to do undercover work). On the other hand, he’s stricter and able to discipline Bruce and call him out on his bullshit without having to be passive-aggressively polite all the time.

Lot’s of good stuff to create Alfred-centered stories.

Bruce doesn’t become Dick’s guardian, Alfred does! 

Single people or queer couples couldn’t adopt at that point (see what I did there?) but being a widower, Alfred had a different legal standing and could take in Dick. 

Bruce and Alfred were at the circus when the Graysons die and Alfred is the one that takes Dick in, Bruce has just become Batman and he’s only about 10 years older than Dick so it would have been weird if he had been one to take in Dick.

Bruce and Dick’s relationship starts a little like siblings/pack but is constantly evolving as they both get older. 

Later when Jason comes into play, Dick is about 19 and the law had changed so Bruce does in fact adopt Jason.

There’s a lot of gossip and scandal in the media because Bruce is an obvious alpha, the family took in an omega (Dick) and now Bruce is adopting a beta/omega (Jason, not sure about his dynamic yet). The media just connects the dots very poorly assumes Bruce is grooming or abusing these kids or something, which he is obviously not. In fact, they only become robins because they were going to go down a path of violence anyway and Bruce decided to at least give them purpose and train them properly.

The media gossip is used by a new person for nefarious purposes!

Namely, Dick’s long-lost third parent pops up and tries to get custody of Dick. Turns out this person is actually working with the Court of Owls and they want their little Gray Son back. Is it really Dick’s missing third parent? Or is it a CoO fake? That’s the interesting part.

Cue drama and a fight to save Dick from becoming a Talon with the help of a group strong enough to oppose the Owls (League of Assassins).

The most dysfunctional romance arrives.

Talia Al Ghul (beta) agrees to help save Dick because she is in love with Bruce (duh). Bruce, however, is developing feelings for Dick throughout this whole adventure (is it healthy? maybe not at this point) and Dick reciprocates. Talia is attracted enough to Dick that she decides a trio with them might work (and she can get the heir her father wants in the process).

After a victory against the Owls, Damian is born but the trio starts falling apart because Talia wants to raise the baby as an Al Ghul and neither Bruce nor Dick will allow their kid to be an assassin. They share custody and try to make things work for a few years but, ultimately, Talia is selfish and wants both Bruce and Damian but not Dick.

Talia is not a terrible person in this AU. She's actually a pretty good mother and a complex and morally grey person that believes ends justify the means. However, she does antagonize Dick (and manipulates people to get what she wants because that's how she was raised) and she unfortunately defers to Ra's and his orders even when she disagrees with him, but just because she is an antagonist to main characters doesn't mean she's a villain or evil.

Cue the hexagon!

Talia also develops feelings for another person (Deathstroke) and figures her ideal would be a trio with Slade and Bruce (even though that would be an alpha x beta x alpha trio). She tries to convince Slade to help her get Damian back so they can be a family.

Problem is Bruce hates Slade. Bigger problem is Slade does like Talia very much but he also doesn’t like Bruce, instead he’s obsessed with... Dick. 

Meanwhile Selina Kyle (beta) has feelings for both Dick and Bruce, and Bruce might reciprocate.  Talia is also not completely against Selina if that means getting Bruce (and being rid of Dick).

As for Dick, he loves Bruce, he might like Selina because she balances himself and Bruce out, but he might also like Slade because he has an unhealthy thing for powerful alphas and they have a bit of a past, the only one he doesn’t care for anymore is Talia because he feels used by her and she kinda broke his heart. Either way he honestly just wants to raise his kid in peace at this point.

Bruce has no idea what to do because feelings, and just wishes his precious Dick wasn’t such a trouble magnet.

Cue a goddamn romantic hexagon (because triangles are so old-fashioned).

(Apollo and Midnighter are around to help in this hexagon war full of kidnappings and weird attempts at seduction. They would probably be searching for a new third since their old one passed away like 20 years ago (just going to say Jenny Sparks, ok? And she probably died in labor. Also, Jenny Quantum would totally be their now adult daughter) and they would probably snap Dick up in a heartbeat, but that’s more of a comedic one-sided thing in the background. Personally I’d love to have them run off with Talia’s brother but that’s influenced by my other fic-verse, in this world that would make very little sense. Then again...).

Again, Slade and Talia are not actually awful people, they just work for the wrong side and use the wrong means to achieve what they want. Slade is actually really doting and spoils Damian as much as his own kids (who are kinda freaked out by the whole romantic hexagon going on, specially because Dick is in it), Talia loves Damian but she was raised very strangely by Ra’s so she raises him with what she knows even if it’s not healthy for Damian.

Previous relationships

Because previous relationships give us a wealth of world-building.

Bruce still dates a lot of different people but he’s only involved in 3 serious trios. First he dated Clark and Diana in the early days of the JL. Then he dates Talia and Dick. Finally he ends up with Dick and Selina.

Dick dated Wally and Roy, then he dated Kory and Babs, then Bruce and Talia. Finally Bruce and Selina.

Selina dated a few people too but, like Bruce, only had 3 trios- first Harley and Ivy, then Dinah and Huntress, finally Dick and Bruce.

Other (and future) Bat Pack relationships

-Jason Todd-Wayne (omega) x Koriand’r (alpha) x Roy Harper (beta)

-Tim Drake-Wayne (omega) x Conner Kent (alpha) x Bart Allen (beta)

-Colin Wilkes (beta) x Damian Grayson-Wayne (omega?) x Jon Kent (alpha)

-(temporary because they all went separate ways later) Barbara Gordon (beta) x Helena Bertinelli (alpha) x Dinah Lance (alpha) 

-Cass Cain-Wayne (alpha) x Stephanie Brown (omega) x Harper Row (beta)

-Kate Kane (alpha) x Renee Montoya (alpha) x Maggie Sawyer (alpha)

-Alfred Pennyworth-Wayne (omega) x Lucius Fox (beta) x Leslie Thompkins (alpha)??

-Barbara Gordon (beta), Tamara Fox (omega), Luke Fox (beta), Duke Thomas (beta) and Helena Bertinelli (alpha) are in a “single bats” club for now.   

EDIT: Ever since I talked to a certain someone I've had Joey Wilson (beta?) x Damian Grayson-Wayne (omega?) x Jon Kent (alpha?) on my brain because can you image how proud Slade would be if his sweetheart son snagging a Bat AND a Super?

EDIT 2: Someone mentioned past Slade/Wintergreen/Adeline and yes, that's how Grant and Joey came to the world (not Rose though).

EDIT 3: Made some minor changes. Still accepting ideas, prompts, questions, etc, for this AU.

Also, Rose Wilson (alpha) would definitely bring some interesting things into this AU as well.

There’s a whole other angle for this universe for the rogues too but it’s so big I’m not sure where to start yet... ^^’

Ask me about the rogues and their ships and stuff if you want.