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I'm thinking about the episode "Deathwalker" from Babylon 5, and the vote on whether or not to hold Jha'dur at B5 for a trial.
The vote is called for by the League of Non-Aligned Worlds, who view Jha'dur as a war criminal for her actions during the Dilgar War thirty years prior to the series. Many of the members of the LONAW were direct victims of the Dilgar, and even Jha'dur herself. Currently Jha'dur is in the custody of Earth Alliance forces who want to deliver her to Earth for scientific research purposes, and the LONAW wants a trial held first.
The Babylon 5 Advisory Council hears the petition of the LONAW, and holds a vote: the Earth Alliance votes "yes" to hold the trial, the Vorlons abstain (as they do for almost all votes), and the Minbari, Centauri, and Narn all vote "no". The petition is defeated.
What I find fascinating are the verbal reasons that the Minbari and Centauri give in the council room for why they're voting "no": That they have no right to judge Jha'dur since they were not victims of the Dilgar.
I find this fascinating because that's not what's being asked for now. This isn't the trial. This vote is not a ruling on her guilt or innocence. This vote is on whether or not a trial should be allowed to happen at all. And they both dodge the issue by claiming to not be in any position to judge her.
We know from other information in the episode that the real reason both governments vote 'no' is because they actually assisted the Dilgar and don't want to admit that. The Centauri engaged in trade and territorial exchanges with them during the Dilgar War, and a Minbari clan sheltered Jha'dur after the war in exchange for scientific research. Since they can't admit this publicly without exposing the secrets anyway, they make sure to have the trial quashed before it can begin.
But it's such a transparent lie when they hold the vote. Absolutely nobody believes it. The members of the LONAW actually storm out of the council room in rage and threaten to leave the organization as a whole. Military forces arrive in the area almost immediately. Jeffrey Sinclair only heads off a full-blown disaster by making a backroom deal to provide the LONAW with the results of Jha'dur's research, and promising to return her for trial after she completes her work.
Everybody knows the Centauri and Minbari are lying, and they know exactly what they're lying about, but they still lie. Because that's how The Game is played.
Fallen Paladin Sara, Death Walker
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Crossed wires, crossed paths
I canNOT stop thinking about the three big alien civilizations on the Babylon 5 council (Narn, Centauri, Minari--the Vorlons abstained) voting not to hold a trial for the war criminal known as DEATHWALKER because all of their civilizations were complicit in working with her at some point. (Also, they'd heard she'd developed an immortality serum and at least some of them wanted it for themselves.)
Meanwhile the League of Non-Aligned Worlds (all the other alien civilizations that don't have the firepower to get an individual seat) wanted to convict her because they'd all been targeted by her weapons and experiments and some point.
It really makes the world feel lived in!! (Welcome to America Mr. von Braun, we'd love your help with our rockets....)

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some thoughts about Deathwalker:
my favorite thing about babylon 5 has always been the conversations between the ambassadors and their aides. the show is not always a story from the perspective of the human characters - sometimes you get a window into how the aliens interact with each other when humans aren't around. I really liked the scene between Na'Toth and G'Kar about why she attacked Jha'dur. if it had been her explaining herself to a human like Sinclair or Garibaldi, the cultural practice underlying her desire for revenge would have been portrayed as "alien" and less legitimate. but instead she tells it to G'Kar, who understands her completely and tells her that her behavior was right (he says that she wouldn't be narn if she felt differently, and that he's proud of her!) and therefore we the audience are reassured that her motivations are not to be dismissed. it was refreshing to see G'Kar take her side and only tell her to wait because it was necessary for political maneuvering
the plotline with Talia was kind of upsetting - I don't think I appreciated when I watched the show for the first time in college how violating that experience would be, and Sinclair and Garibaldi were so nonchalant about it at the end. Talia was like "Kosh hired me under dubious circumstances, exposed me to terrifying stimuli, and recorded my thoughts without consent presumably with the intention of using them later to hurt me" and Sinclair and Garibaldi were like "lol yeah he's a wild one". I guess there's nothing they can do about it but still yikes
why was Garibaldi allowed to go through Jha'dur's stuff when she was unconscious, seems ethically questionable
my opinion of G'Kar is so heavily influenced by how he is in the later seasons, I forgot how slimy he is in season 1. I think he experiences the most character growth of any of the cast.
Lennier is the guy we all know who's way too into military history
Anne-Marie and Peter cover DEATHWALKER! for BablylOrg 5 1.10, recording tonight.
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-2-Bay of Angels (1963) -3-Deathstalker (1983) (1191)
Mean Girls is a 2004 American teen comedy film directed by Mark Waters and written by Tina Fey.
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The film follows Cady Heron (Lohan), a naïve teenager who transfers to an American high school after years of homeschooling in Africa. Heron quickly befriends two outcasts (Lizzy Caplan and Daniel Franzese), with the trio forming a plan to exact revenge on Regina George (McAdams), the leader of an envied clique known as the Plastics.
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Bay of Angels is a 1963 French romantic drama film written and directed by Jacques Demy.Â
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Jean is a clerk in a bank. His colleague Caron is a gambler and gives him the virus. In the casinos, Jean meets Jackie. Their love affair will follow their luck at the roulette.
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Deathstalker, is a 1983 Argentine-American sword and sorcery film directed by James Sbardellati (credited as John Watson).
A lone warrior nicknamed Deathstalker is sent by a witch on a quest to find a sword, a chalice, and an amulet, two of which are held by the wicked king and sorcerer, Munkar.
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Sequels: The film's commercial success encouraged Roger Corman and Argentinian producer-director Hector Olivera to collaborate again to produce Barbarian Queen, with Lana Clarkson in the title role. Three sequels were released: Deathstalker II, Deathstalker and the Warriors from Hell, and Deathstalker IV: Match of Titans.