#cognitive type

What specific part you want to know about?

Because, in all honesty, I will not start to describe a whole type, it’s way too much time and effort. 

A cognitive type in itself would require pages long to be described with decent accuracy. Same goes with enneatype, especially paired with cognitive functions, AND a tritype, AND instinctual variants. Also, I am not the kind to make stereotypical oversimplified description that confuses everyone or in which everyone will recognize themselves exactly because it’s too simplistic.

Characteristics of the Extraverted Cognitive Type:

Outer world is the real world; focuses on externals

Gets energy through engaging with environment (may or may not be other people)

Becomes bored and restless when presented with too much time to themselves

Less wary of new experiences

Understands life after they’ve lived it

Characteristics of the Introverted Cognitive Type:

Inner world is the real world; focuses on internal thoughts/feelings/values

Gets energy through time alone

Self-protective and more wary about new experiences

Inwardly directed and less aware of environment

Can’t live life until after they’ve understood or processed it internally

as a follow up question, i’ve been stuck on either NeFi or NeTi, because i’m having a hard time deciding which judging functions i use (my Ne keeps reframing actions to be either Fi or Fe)

the enneagram typology i gave you is mine, and i’m 99% sure it’s accurate. i understand that ENFP is more likely, though i can’t help but wonder, maybe some of the way i act can be explained with just my enneagram info, and not just by being a Te user (for instance my high reactivity explained by triple reactive instead of Te), do you have any idea how to decipher these judging functions in myself while taking enneagram into account? thanks again for your help

I'm afraid I won't be very useful on this one.

I've come to conclude it's barely impossible to determine your cognitive stack by self-analysis alone, for four major reasons.

1. We are not the best judge of ourselves - despite what people say (specifically revisers (xxxP) type with Fi, I'm all watching you with stabby eyes), since we get entitled by an ego perception of ourselves. This means that we are constantly biased due to our beliefs system (like, our enneatype fears, beliefs, etc., ironically enough) resulting in believing we are a certain way when we aren't. It doesn't always mean our perception is horribly wrong, but the degree of error doesn't need to be that big to create a mistyping.

2. Our ego can create an hyperfixation on a cognitive function that is not our lead process, which makes us think we are a certain type when we aren't, or over inflate it's importance. Or we could also strongly deny a certain function and believe it is lower because of that, when it's the auxiliary.

3. Definitions vary from a place to another and also almost from a person to another, giving inevitably a skewed perception cognitive function themselves. Add the self distortions from point 1 and you get an even more blurry portrait.

4. If I go by CT theory, that itself is flawed even if I believe it's still the best defined one yet, we apparently can have integrated functions from lower of our stack, which incredibly affect 1) Our thought process, personality and behaviors 2) Our perception of selves. This leads to accentuate the problems of every point I have said above and make it incredibly harder to determine the cognitive stacks.

With that said, despite all the points above, there are still psychological cues indicating which functions we do have and operate with. All of the following will starts from the assumption that you are correct on being a Pe lead/dom, specifically Ne lead, which I have no guarantee you are. Not because I don't trust you, but I have nothing assuring me either way.

Already, you're telling me your hesitation is because of the F functions, so I assume you are concerned by what is called "biotic" aspects. This means being more sensitive to the intrinsic nature of things (people, events, interaction, etc.), as in caring more about the life within "things" ; the conscientiousness, free will, "soul" of whatever you're dealing with. This information suggests me you are more likely NeFi over NeTi, since even if I account for the possible NeTi with Fe integrated, the auxiliary even when unconscious still taint from behind the approach to the tertiary. NeTi with Fe integrated have a twisted way of Fe compared to an Fe dom or aux, even tho I'd argue it's not as "twisted" as Tumblr community let it on by the past.

Often, what makes people think they have Fe over Fi is because they are concerned over the "social" atmosphere, express their feelings outwardly and are simply concerned by others overall. But those have nothing to do with Fe but more so emotional attitude (specifically seelie/adaptive ones). All of what I just mentioned has nothing to do with cognition anyway. The other reason is often they think they are high T because they are emotionally stunted, dismissive, express themselves bluntly and express more easily disgust, disapproval or anger, when again, this is more related to emotional attitude, but the Guarded ones (unseelie/directive) this time.

In the end, both NeFi and NeTi are quite similar, they simply have a slightly different approach to information, but they both are revisers of information by nature, spontaneous, tangent hoppers, and overall quirky, despite the dumb idioties running around on tert Fe on Dumblr.

Im pleased you ask xD

Emotional attitude

First, here is an in length and in depth psychological explanation of how emotional attitude works. I cant find the simplified one about why they were lead to establish emotional attitude tho... I know it is somewhere, it might be on the wiki page (linked at the bottom).

Below is the most simple way I have found to explain both dichotomy tho.

Seelie/Unseelie Go toward the end of this article to find the explanation.

Adaptive/Directive Same as above, it is near the end.

I'd also mention the emotional attitude is something observable in the vultology of the person.

Function development and consciousness

First, bear in mind the CT model bases itself on psychodynamic, which is born from psychanalytic. Therefore, most of their reasoning and explanations come from this paradigm (which is my personal favorite as a social worker). J-mbti also was born from it, but there is not many people on tumblr or even on other sites that actually use psychodynamic concepts to explain anything about cognitive functions development.

Function development, how it integrates into one's psychology and therefore becomes conscious.

Another concept (libido) to understand and better grasp their logic of cognitive development. If you've been familiar with psychanalytic/psychodynamic, it won't be something new, but i suggest to read it anyway to see how they use it in CT.

The little sticks (l---, ll--, etc.) is just a way to illustrate which functions are conscious. They corresponds to each function position. The first is the leading/dominant, always conscious obviously, then the auxiliary, tertiary and inferior, which may not forcibly be conscious nor developed in their hierarchical order. Unconscious ones are represented by this -> - little trait, while the conscious ones with a stick -> l (namely the letter "l" lmao).

So it can lead to development such as mine, l-l-, which means Fi lead with Ni conscious. Both Se and Te are unconscious and therefore work from behind the scene. Ni might "appear stronger" simply because I can allocate voluntarily energy to Ni and use it in equal measure to Fi. So, despite auxiliary Se, I prioritize Ni most of the time over Se, tho Se still does its things. It can also lead to development such as the l--l one, named "polarized", or even l-ll, lll-, ll-l, etc. Every developments are possible, and it can change throughout your life (toward more development/ little sticks). Like in my case, my Te is showing itself more than my Se, even vultologically, so I'll hit l-ll development at some point in time, which makes me even more an improbable ISFP in the j-mbti, and even closer to what would be typed as an INxJ. Tho, I suggest reading through the wiki and the many articles to get a grasp on all those stuffs for yourself.

-> Here is the wiki and the summary of all the pages.

For your latest question, yes it could totally be possible to encounter an SeTi that types as ENTJ in J-mbti, that's quite common tbh. Especially when l-l- directive... Directive Fe is fucking frightening

You're correct. There is actually no system overlapping perfectly with CT, so you can end up with a quite different type in it.

I'm what they would formulate as a "FiSe INFJ" kind of subtype, which is not surprising to find either.

Tho, I wouldn't say I am both an INFJ and ISFP. FiSe with l-l- (Ni conscious) development does translate well as an INFJ type in the jungian mbti. It is basically the same type, somewhat. But a FiSe with either l--- or ll-- would correspond to your typical ISFP in the jungian system, especially with a seelie attitude. Those development does affect quite a bit how the person processes, to a point of appearing as another type in other systems.

I would mention briefly that just this emotional attitude (seelie/unseelie or adaptive/directive for Fe types) can create a big ass difference in your type, since how one approaches emotions isn't dissociated very well from cognitive functions in jungian mbti. So, a seelie SiTe with some standard dev (l---) or even with polarized dev (l--l) would definitely be typed as some IxFJ or xNFP within J-mbti. Of course, Ennea was used in conjunction to patch this, but even then I see a lot of people attaching some expected emotional attitude to some functions. So, like I said, the dissociation is not very well made yet.

Tbh, there would be a shit load more to unpack. I'd rather wait for more questions and precisions to actually develop on anything, so at least I know someone really wanted the info lol

The emotional attitude applies for all the stack, they simply observed it was related to the F function due to what it is preoccupied about. This attitude won't be more or less present if the F function is conscious or not, or higher or lower in the stack, it is also not what determines if it is seelie/adaptive vs unseelie/directive. That depends of the ego development and person's relationship toward self to self and toward environment to self. It is a more psychological reason than cognitive one.

Tbh, to determine if you'd really be NiFe it would require a vultological analysis, which requires a video of 5-10 minutes long of you speaking.

Btw, I am not asking you to send me one, but types are determined and established this way. It was my case also. I didn't look into their definition and typed from it, I got (soft) typed through video and then went reading to reconstruct my framework with their theory and also determine if it really made sense.

Tho, I was typed FiNe at first, because they didn't dig much my perception axis signals, and through reading Ne/Si, it didn't fit psychologically imo and I demanded a review. SeNi signals looked more accurate than NeSi, so then it was settled for FiSe (until I buy that official report to get certainty over it, which is a personal choice of mine). Tho, soft typing (unofficial typing from discord members) are still quite reliable, since people on the discord server are good at it imo, when they decide to dig it instead of Pe'ing around.