#neti

Master Ly’nne and her Padawan, Grogu.

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“You simply represent the better and calmer parts of my nature. I think that is why I love you”

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The Magician; The Fool; The Subverter

translated from DDC Tipologias !

‎‎‎ ‎‎ ‎The ENTP can be seen as the hypothetical, speculative, and idea subverter type by nature.

‎ ‎‎ ‎For ENTPs, exploring different tangents, guided only by a sense of independent reasoning that also supports exploration, is more important than achieving anything concrete at all. It's only in the occasional times when the ENTP finds satisfaction in a tangent, hypothesis, or explored project that things can hold some more fixed value, which often is discarded in favor of a brand new hypothesis or chance to subvert their own ideas and those of others.

‎ ‎‎ ‎Symbolically, the ENTP can be seen as the Court Jester, making use of various strategies and their own ignorance as parts of questioning everything and everyone, including themselves. Perhaps more than any other type, the ENTP questions themselves in their inconsistent sequence of fleeting interests, even potentially sacrificing any anchor in things in the name of their own new hypotheses, or even the hypotheses of others.

‎ ‎‎ ‎For all of this, they make use of their cognitive functions: dominant Extraverted Intuition (Ne), auxiliary Introverted Thinking (Ti), tertiary Extraverted Feeling (Fe), and inferior Introverted Sensing (Si).

ᴄʜᴀʟʟᴇɴɢɪɴɢ sᴛᴇʀᴇᴏᴛʏᴘᴇs: Troll Is Not An Identity

‎ ‎‎ ‎The positive stereotype of the ENTP characterises the type as creative, shrewd, witty, and intelligent. Although these adjectives, particularly the first three, may be true for many ENTPs, portraying them as necessarily this way creates an unrealistic fetishization around this type.

‎ ‎‎ ‎Now, the "negative" stereotype often becomes the identity of people who are not ENTPs, but want to use the type to feel powerful and provocative or to excuse themselves from discussions: the "troll" stereotype. ENTPs would naturally be skilled in debate and provocation and would have a reputation for being annoying and irritating. Usually, people who use this stereotype (which many ENTPs do, in fact, fit into) do so just to feel free and absent from a discussion, when it is actually quite noticeable that this is not the case. Everyone wants to win debates. That doesn't make anyone an ENTP.

to know more about ENTP's functions or read about another type, click read more.

first and last dividers are by @animatedglittergraphics-n-more; 1. and 2.

as a follow up question, i’ve been stuck on either NeFi or NeTi, because i’m having a hard time deciding which judging functions i use (my Ne keeps reframing actions to be either Fi or Fe)

the enneagram typology i gave you is mine, and i’m 99% sure it’s accurate. i understand that ENFP is more likely, though i can’t help but wonder, maybe some of the way i act can be explained with just my enneagram info, and not just by being a Te user (for instance my high reactivity explained by triple reactive instead of Te), do you have any idea how to decipher these judging functions in myself while taking enneagram into account? thanks again for your help

I'm afraid I won't be very useful on this one.

I've come to conclude it's barely impossible to determine your cognitive stack by self-analysis alone, for four major reasons.

1. We are not the best judge of ourselves - despite what people say (specifically revisers (xxxP) type with Fi, I'm all watching you with stabby eyes), since we get entitled by an ego perception of ourselves. This means that we are constantly biased due to our beliefs system (like, our enneatype fears, beliefs, etc., ironically enough) resulting in believing we are a certain way when we aren't. It doesn't always mean our perception is horribly wrong, but the degree of error doesn't need to be that big to create a mistyping.

2. Our ego can create an hyperfixation on a cognitive function that is not our lead process, which makes us think we are a certain type when we aren't, or over inflate it's importance. Or we could also strongly deny a certain function and believe it is lower because of that, when it's the auxiliary.

3. Definitions vary from a place to another and also almost from a person to another, giving inevitably a skewed perception cognitive function themselves. Add the self distortions from point 1 and you get an even more blurry portrait.

4. If I go by CT theory, that itself is flawed even if I believe it's still the best defined one yet, we apparently can have integrated functions from lower of our stack, which incredibly affect 1) Our thought process, personality and behaviors 2) Our perception of selves. This leads to accentuate the problems of every point I have said above and make it incredibly harder to determine the cognitive stacks.

With that said, despite all the points above, there are still psychological cues indicating which functions we do have and operate with. All of the following will starts from the assumption that you are correct on being a Pe lead/dom, specifically Ne lead, which I have no guarantee you are. Not because I don't trust you, but I have nothing assuring me either way.

Already, you're telling me your hesitation is because of the F functions, so I assume you are concerned by what is called "biotic" aspects. This means being more sensitive to the intrinsic nature of things (people, events, interaction, etc.), as in caring more about the life within "things" ; the conscientiousness, free will, "soul" of whatever you're dealing with. This information suggests me you are more likely NeFi over NeTi, since even if I account for the possible NeTi with Fe integrated, the auxiliary even when unconscious still taint from behind the approach to the tertiary. NeTi with Fe integrated have a twisted way of Fe compared to an Fe dom or aux, even tho I'd argue it's not as "twisted" as Tumblr community let it on by the past.

Often, what makes people think they have Fe over Fi is because they are concerned over the "social" atmosphere, express their feelings outwardly and are simply concerned by others overall. But those have nothing to do with Fe but more so emotional attitude (specifically seelie/adaptive ones). All of what I just mentioned has nothing to do with cognition anyway. The other reason is often they think they are high T because they are emotionally stunted, dismissive, express themselves bluntly and express more easily disgust, disapproval or anger, when again, this is more related to emotional attitude, but the Guarded ones (unseelie/directive) this time.

In the end, both NeFi and NeTi are quite similar, they simply have a slightly different approach to information, but they both are revisers of information by nature, spontaneous, tangent hoppers, and overall quirky, despite the dumb idioties running around on tert Fe on Dumblr.