PZ Myers is a pretty sad case. If you ever look him up on youtube youâd find videos of him giving lectures on science/evolution/atheism/etc vs religion/creationism/etc or hanging out with people like Dawkins. All those videos are usually tagged as 4 years old or more.Â
These days he couldnât be invited to anything his friends have ties into and other atheists freely bash the guy. The guy deserves it indeed for all the incredibly stupid things heâs said while also advocating for censorship and demonizing people who disagree with his politics but itâs still sad to know heâs actually gotten so far up only to fall so far down.Â
One story about him is that he and Dawkins went to see that shitty Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed documentary. The one that promoted âintelligent designâ and insisted itâs totes not creationism while making all the same creationist arguments and so on. While in line, apparently he was told that he wasnât allowed in the theater and was escorted away. Myers wasnât allowed in yet somehow Dawkins slipped past everyoneâs notice.Â
Now I donât think itâs possible for something like that to happen. Dawkins probably wouldnât want to see him being so far on opposite ends on issues like safe spaces and trigger warnings and even Myersâ unwilling to speak to people who arenât on total opposite ends of issues but disagree on key points or whatnot. I donât think anyone would recognize him these days or care that much if heâs here or there. He no longer has any sway over atheists or skeptics (which he publicly divorced himself from the skeptical community for being...skeptical)
And the saddest part is that he gave it all up himself. He wasnât tossed away by atheists, he burned the bridges himself by supporting an intentionally exclusive sect of atheism that sought to dehumanize anyone who wasnât a part of it and then continue to post outright lies, refuse any sort of debate on the matter, and dig deeper and deeper into the whole of censorship we now call social justice.
It seems a lot of atheists are now going opposite of where PZ wanted everyone to go. Mentioned before were the likes of Dawkins but other people who have spoken out against SJWism include Sam Harris, Thunderf00t, etc and those are people more known for being atheists than anti SJWs. The vice versa would extend the list to people like Sargon of Akkad (Youtube), MundaneMatt, Sh0eonhead, Justicar etc.Â
Those are people whose videos reach out to thousands and sometimes millions of others. They certainly have more sway than Myers. A livestream between Thunderfoot, Justicar, and the Internet Aristocrat on atheism plus had more people tuning in than the Atheism+ forums during any time of its inception.Â
More and more people are coming about against the very things Myers has burned every bridge to become apart of. There are exceptions. Some atheists are SJWs and I wonât for a second claim that atheism is inherently against SJWs as what Myers and Steve Shives doesnât understand: atheism doesnât have any stance of any issue unrelated to âDo you believe in God/s?â
However, just as thereâs atheist SJWs thereâs also Jewish ones and Christian ones and thereâs probably even Muslim ones. The whole goal of atheism plus trying to make atheism as interlinked with SJWism, something that any theist can easily subscribe to is absurd. Itâs like trying to make evolution an inherent aspect of Christianity or atomic theory an official stance of Libertarianism.Â
I guess he doesnât have to worry too much about that. Whenever the name PZ Myers comes up, very few are worried that they might be exposed to atheism but instead brace for more SJWism.Â
I certainly hope defending the likes of Rebecca Watson while demonizing the likes of Elon Musk or Richard Dawkins was worth it because thereâs no way from there but down.
Anyways, just some ramblings that crossed my mind while watching videos of people reacting to the guy