Aziraphaleās Choice, the Job Connection, and Michael Sheenās Morality
Update: Michael Sheen liked this post on Twitter, so I'm fairly certain there is a lot of validity to it.
Iāve had time to process Aziraphaleās choice at the end of Season 2. And I think only blaming the religious trauma misses something important in Aziraphaleās character. I think what happened was also Aziraphaleās own conscious choiceāāas a growth from his trauma, in fact. Hear me out.
Since November 2022 Iāve been haunted by something Michael Sheen said at the MCM London Comic Con. At the Q&A, someone asked him about which fantasy creature he enjoyed playing most and Michael (bless him, truly) veered on a tangent about angels and goodness and how, specifically,
We as a society tend to sort of undervalue goodness. Itās sort of seen as sort of somehow weak and a bit nimby and āoh itās nice.ā And I think to be good takes enormous reserves of courage and stamina. I mean, you have to look the dark in the face to be truly good and to be truly of the lightā¦. The idea that goodness is somehow lesser and less interesting and not as kind of muscular and as passionate and as fierce as evil somehow and darkness, I think is nonsense. The idea of being able to portray an angel, a being of love. I love seeing the things people have put online about angels being ferocious creatures, and I love that. I think thatās a really good representation of what goodness can be, what it should be, I suppose.
I was looking forward to BAMF!Aziraphale all season long, and I think thatās what we got in the end. Remember Neil said that the Job minisode was important for Aziraphaleās story. Remember how Aziraphale sat on that rock and reconciled to himself that he MUST go to Hell, because he lied and thwarted the will of God. He believed thatāātruly, honestly, with the faith of a child, but the bravery of a soldier.
Aziraphale, a being of love with more goodness than all of Heaven combined, believed he needed to walk through the Gates of Hell because it was the Right Thing to do. (Like Job, he didnāt understand his sin but believed he needed to sacrifice his happiness to do the Right Thing.)
Thatās why we saw Aziraphale as a soldier this season: the bookshop battle, the halo. But yes, the ending as well.
Because Aziraphale never wanted to go to Heaven, and he never wanted to go there without Crowley.
But it was Crowley who taught him that he could, even SHOULD, act when his moral heart told him something was wrong. While Crowley was willing to run away and let the world burn, it was Aziraphale (in that bandstand at the end of the world) who stood his ground and said No. We can make a difference. We can save everyone.
And Aziraphale knew he could not give up the ace up his sleeve (his position as an angel) to talk to God and make them see the truth in his heart.
I was messed up by Ineffable Bureaucracy (Boxfly) getting their happy ending when our Ineffable Husbands didnāt, but I see now that them running away served to prove something to Aziraphale. (And I am fully convinced that Gabriel and Beelzebub saw the example of the Ineffables at the Not-pocalypse and took inspiration from them for choosing to ditch their respective sides)
But my point is that Aziraphale saw them, and in some ways, they looked like him and Crowley. And he saw how Gabriel, the biggest bully in Heaven, was also like him in a way (a being capable of love) and also just a child when he wasnāt influenced by the poison of Heaven. Muriel, too, wasnāt a bad person. The Metatron also seemed to have grown more flexible with his morality (from Aziraphale's perspective). Like Earth, Heaven was shades of (light?) gray.
Aziraphale is too good an angel not to believe in hope. Or forgiveness (something heās very good at it).
Aziraphale has been scarred by Heaven all his life. But with the cracks in Heavenās armor (cracks he and Crowley helped create), Aziraphale is seeing something else. A chance to change them. They did terrible things to him, but he is better than them, and because of Crowley, he feels ready to face them.
(Will it work? Can Heaven change, institutionally? Probably not, but I can't blame Aziraphale for trying.)
At the cafe, the Metatron said something big was coming in the Great Plan. Aziraphale knows how trapped he had felt when he didnāt have Godās ear the first time something huge happened in the Big Plan. He canāt take a chance again to risk the world by not having a foot in the door of Heaven. Thatās why we saw individual human deaths (or the threat of death) so much more this season: Elspeth, Wee Morag, Jobās children, the 1940s magician. Aziraphale almost killed a child when he couldnāt get through to God, and heās not going through that again.
āWe could make a difference.ā We could save everyone.
Remember what Michael Sheen said about courage and doing goodāāand having to ālook the dark in the face to be truly good.ā Thatās what happened when Aziraphale was willing to go to Hell for his actions. Thatās what happened when he decided he had to go to Heaven, where he had been abused and belittled and made to feel small. He decided to willingly go into the Lionās Den, to face his abusers and his anxiety, to make them better so that they would not try to destroy the world again.
Him, just one angel. He needed Crowley to be there with him, to help him be brave, to ask the questions that Heaven needed to hear, to tell them God was wrong. Crowley is the inspiration that drives Aziraphaleās change, Crowley is the engine that fuels Aziraphaleās courage.
But then Crowley tells him that going to Heaven is stupid. That they donāt need Heaven. And heās right. Aziraphale knows heās right.
Aziraphale doesnāt need Heaven; Heaven needs him. They just donāt know how much they need him, or how much humanity needs him there, too. (If everyone who ran for office was corrupt, how can the system change?)
Terry Pratchett (in the Discworld book, Small Gods) is scathing of God, organized religion, and the corrupt people religion empowers, but he is sympathetic to the individual who has real, pure faith and a good heart. In fact, the everyman protagonist of Small Gods is a better person than the god he serves, and in the end, he ends up changing the church to be better, more open-minded, and more humanist than god could ever do alone.
Aziraphale is willing to go to the darkest places to do the Right Thing, and Heaven is no exception. When Crowley says that Heaven is toxic, thatās exactly why Aziraphale knows he needs to go there. āYouāre exactly is different from my exactly.ā
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In the aftermath of Trump's election in the US, Brexit happened in 2018. Michael Sheen felt compelled to figure out what was going on in his country after this shock. But he was living in Los Angeles with Sarah Silverman at the time, and she also wanted to become more politically active in the US.
Sheen: āI felt a responsibility to do something, but it [meant] coming back [to Britain] ā which was difficult for us, because we were very important to each other. But we both acknowledge that each of us had to do what we needed to do.ā In the end, they split up and Michael moved back to the UK.
Sometimes doing the Right Thing means sacrificing your own happiness. Sometimes it means going to Hell. Sometimes it means going to Heaven. Sometimes it means losing a relationship.
And thatās why what happened in the end was so difficult for Aziraphale. Because he loves Crowley desperately. He wants to be together. He wanted that kiss for thousands of years. He knows that taking command of Heaven means they would never again have to bow to the demands of a God they couldnāt understand, or run from a Hell who still came after them. They could change the rules of the game.
And heās still going to do that. But it hurts him that he has to do that alone.
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thereās something about the way that they both reach for each other after eddie has been shot to try and close the distance between them physically and metaphorically. like theyāre so close but not quite where they want to be which really just defines their relationship to a t. and i could honestly go on about this forever because hand symbolism just makes me wanna scream.Ā
i'm really intrigued by the fact that you chose kylo as an infp. i'm interested in learning more about unhealthy xnfp types because that's my own type and i have been typed as unhealthy as well. Do you know where I can learn more about unhealthy xnfp types? Or possibly other unhealthy types as well?
Iāll try to explain why I picked Kylo Ren as an INFP as best I can to give you some insight into why exactly made that decision, then Iāll discuss an unhealthy INFP afterwards, and link you to some sources of information on unhealthy types. I know you havenāt directly asked my why I chose Kylo Ren as an INFP, but I feel the need to explain myself since Iāve already witnessed people questioning my decision, so I may as well get it out of the way. Hopefully you donāt mind my word vomit.
To understand unhealthy MBTI you have to understand what makes any given type āunhealthyā. What that is, exactly, is when your four cognitive functions arenāt balanced. So in terms of an INFPās prominent functions, weāre looking at (Fi-Ne) -Si-Te. Si and Te are Tertiary and Inferior functions, which means that most of the time theyāre not exactly at the forefront of an INFPās thinking process, usually they are last priority or merely affect the dominant and auxiliary functions in some way. It can be considered unhealthy if one of these functions begins to take priority over the dominant and auxiliary functions. An easy way to conceptualize this is to imagine a car with four people. You have the driver (dominant function) and the co-pilot (auxiliary function) at the front, kind of helping each other out but the driver still does most of the work. Then in the backseat you have the guy who engages in discussion with the two up the front sometimes but heās still in the backseat (tertiary function) and that guy who keeps mostly to himself and only says something when he suddenly wants to be a backseat driver or the actual driver specifically asks for his help (inferior function). You have to have these four people in the car at all times to make sure the trip goes smoothly, but the moment you start moving those people around, giving people roles they shouldnāt be in, is when you start making it a dangerous journey for all involved = unhealthy MBTI. Iāll talk about that later, first:
WHY I THINK KYLO REN IS AN INFP
DOMINANT-AUXILIARY FUNCTIONS
Fi - introverted Feeling
Fi dominance makes INFPs highly in-tune with the subjective aspects of reality (personal values, emotions, ethics, the human psyche) which makes them somewhat disinterested in pure objectivity. This means that INFPs have trouble Ā looking at situations objectively/in a manner that removes all emotion, values, and nuance from the decision-making process. (x)Ā
Now what does this have to do with Kylo Ren? Well, first to point out why he is a Fi-dom - Kylo Ren has his own set of values, and doesnāt seem to care about other peopleās values if they donāt agree with his own. He doesnāt let them affect his decision-making. Fi-doms often believe their values are inherently right, and a lot of their decision-making stems from exactly that, rather than what someone else has told them what is right/what they should do.Ā This could be confused in Kylo Renās case with people thinking he is doing what Snoke tells him to do, but he is only doing those things BECAUSE he personally believes in them. He has been conditioned to change his values to align with Snokeās, therefore he sees no problem in doing whatever Snoke tells him to do - and why doing things against that belief system (darkness > light) is so hard for him to grasp - because you can tell (along with being told by Adam Driver) that he intrinsically believes he is right.Ā
There would have to be some significant event that shakes Kylo Renās inner beliefs (such as perhaps realizing what he had been conditioned to believe about killing his father as the āright thingā to do, suddenly becoming the āwrong thingā as he canonically falls to his knees in regret) to cause him to start a misalignment between them and Snokeās and to begin the questioning, doubting, self-reflecting process that had otherwise been a 100% commitment from a Fi-domās point of view. If this occurs, an INFP will take it very seriously and it will be hard to process, as to them it can feel like figuratively speaking, their whole world (belief system) has been ripped out from under them. As an unhealthy INFP, this āIām doing it because itās the right thing to do (according to my own beliefs, not your wrong ones)ā way of thinking can make them seem obnoxiously self-righteous. But more on that later.Ā
Ne - extroverted iNtuition
Ne users are naturally attuned to concepts and possibilities as their main way of taking in information; theyāre not interested in knowing the facts and instead prefer to look at how they are connected, what their underlying principles and ideas are. They themselves areĀ āgreat at generating ideas, but not so much at following through on their execution.ā (x)
This usually leads to Ne users being less inclined to plan things - or if they do plan something, theyāre more inclined to ditch it later on or get distracted. Theyāre interested in the ābigger pictureā or the āend goalā not the minute details or the routine steps it takes to get there. This basically means they like to improvise - but this can also lead to confusion or being distracted. Isabel and Peter Briggs Myers describes this as Ne users being āwholly directed upon objects, searching for emerging possibilitiesā and that they will āsacrifice all else for such possibilities when foundā (Gifts Differing Understanding Personality Type, 88). This can be seen when Kylo Ren gets distracted from the plan to capture the droid, changing the plan to instead merely capture Rey or when he offers to teach Rey despite it going against Snokeās plans; both times Kylo Ren was distracted by the new possibilties that Rey offered, despite going against the given plan. He also struggles to stay on course in terms of what he needs to do and his belief that he needs to quench his light side. Overall, his short-sightedness (I donāt mean that negatively, but more in a sense of being preoccupied with the HERE AND NOW rather than the LATER), abundance of confusion and inability to stick to a predetermined course is a telling sign of an xNP. Ni-domās, on the other hand, are incredibly future-sighted and always think of the consequences and possibilities in future while simultaneously finding it important and necessary to formulate a plan and stick to it (Obi-Wan is a classic example of a Ni-dom in Star Wars, as is Palpatine).Ā
TERTIARY-INFERIOR FUNCTIONS
(Keep in mind that these functions are not meant to be at the forefront of an INFPs processes and usually are used in last-moment measures or merely just affect or amplify a dominant function, so not all INFPs may display or develop these on the same level)
Si - introverted Sensing
Si is the FiNeās third function, and it gives a sense of solidity to their Fi beliefs. Si also makes the Fi-led internal world structured and detailed. When it comes to values that they have had adequate time to develop, they tend to have a solid sense of ārightā and āwrongā. A lot of their perception in these cases is based on their personal experiences. This is because Si places a high value on real world experiences and its impressions of them. FiNeās store all the interesting experiences and information they gather in their mind in an organized way for future reference. (x)
So this basically just solidifies Kylo Renās beliefs about him beingĀ ārightā and makes it that much harder for him to consider anyone elseās point of view against his own. In an INFPās perspective, their beliefs are constructed on past experiences, so if someone comes along and tries to tell them theyāre wrong, theyāll think,Ā āwell, thatās not how it happened beforeā orĀ ānot according to my past experienceā. Their past experience will usually take precedence as āevidenceā over anything anyone else tells them. The Si element in an INFP can lead to them holding intense grudges, clinging to theseĀ āpast experiencesā too closely in order to judge the world around them, even if they donāt realize it. If someone hurts them or breaks their trust, an INFP might try to forgive them, but they will never forget what they experienced before, and will more than likely fear it will happen again. All of this comes in to play during the scene between Han Solo and Kylo Ren on the bridge, and could explain why Han Solo was unable to persuade Kylo Ren, merely on the basis ofĀ āwe do miss youā or the idea that things might be different, because, in Kylo Renās experience, it doesnāt add up. What he experienced in the past takes too much precedence over anything Han Solo is saying. He might consider what his father is saying, reflect on it in his head, and realize that he would prefer to trust the reality of whatever Snoke has told him over the things his father is saying, that, in his mind, donāt align with what he previously experienced. Of course, that is just my personal interpretation of the scene anyway.
Equally, as Si might cause an INFP to hold a grudge, it can also, in the same line of thinking, make them incredibly sentimental about things or objects that have played a part in their past. This can be seen when Kylo Ren speaks to Vaderās mask, his reaction to Anakinās lightsaber, or the deleted scene of him on the Millennium Falcon. Another interesting effect Si tends to have in an INFP is that it can lead to INFPs having values and beliefs that arenāt consideredĀ ātraditionalā by most people. This is again, because their beliefs are based on subjective matter and experience, not the objective, collective belief of what may beĀ ārightā orĀ āwrongā. Kylo Renās deep-set belief in the dark side is by no meansĀ ātraditionalā thinking, because he doesnāt care about the collective opinion or thought, but about what he personally has gone through or is going through.
Te - extroverted Thinking
Te is a process that allows FiNeās to take in information from the real world, make quick decisions on what the most effective solution is, and put that solution into play right away. This is the weakest, achillesā heel part of the FiNe. Although it would be exhausting and unhealthy for them to rely on this aspect of themselves all the time, they can pull out their troubleshooting skills when necessary to get a job done effectively.(x)
Te is usually described as making quick and efficient decisions based on objective fact. In a Fi-dom, thisĀ āobjective factā becomes aĀ āgut feelingā from which they base their quick decisions from. However, theyāll only do this if they are forced to, as a last measure, since Fi-doms would much prefer to be able to take their time before making a decision, and being consistently forced to make quick decisions with no time allowed for thinking can result in unhealthy behaviour. Te in a Fi-dom can also be what they resort to when they are suffering an intense struggle about a decision, in the end just sayingĀ āfuck itā and going with their gut instinct, even if they canāt articulate a solid reason for making that decision at the time. The most common and comfortable use of Te in a Fi-dom, however, is to critique and offer improvements to existing systems, structures or plans based on what they believe to be more effective. In terms of Kylo Ren, I believe weāve seen him making thisĀ āgut instinctā decision whenever he is forced to make a decision regarding Rey without being given the time he needs to figure out what he should be doing (according to his belief system), explaining all these weird decisions he seems to make in regards to what the most effective way of dealing with an enemy would be versus what he feels like doing at that moment in time for which he canāt really offer a good explanation. I suppose you could also see this function when he criticizes Huxās indoctrination methods and offers what he sees as the more effective option: clones.Ā
AN UNHEALTHY INFP
Being unhealthy in MBTI means that you use your functions in a way thatās detrimental to yourself or others.They could be in a loop (reliance on their dominant or tertiary functions and ignoring their auxiliary), a grip (reliance on their inferior function), or just generally using their functions in unhealthy ways. (x)
Now, Iām going to admit I havenāt done a lot of reading on unhealthy MBTI yet, so Iām going to derive a lot of information fromĀ this post by highonmbti for now, and only the manifestations that I see in Kylo Ren. I definitely suggest checking out the post and highonmbti in general if youāre interested in reading more about unhealthy MBTI.
Unhealthy use of Fi
The unhealthy use of Fi means theyāve reached some extreme point of the function over all their other functions, resulting in unbalanced behaviour.
One of these behaviours can be seen as excessive stubbornness and self-righteousness towards their own sense of right and wrong, making it very hard for them to consider how their actions might affect others, or acknowledge other peopleās values and perspectives. They may also treat those who donāt align with their belief system in a condescending manner, as though they are blind to the realĀ ātruthā that is the belief system that the INFP has constructed. This, of course, is self-explanatory when it comes to Kylo Ren. He clearly has no sense of how his actions might affect anyone but himself, nor does he seem to care about any moral code that doesnāt align with his own.
An unhealthy dominance of Fi can also manifest in INFPs being obsessed with seemingĀ ādifferentā orĀ āmisunderstoodā as they become hyper aware of the difference in their personal values and perspectives versus the rest of the world. Unhealthy INFPs might also take their preference for subjective, values based decision-making to the extreme, refusing to rationalize or explain their decisions at all, and as highonmbti puts it, defaulting toĀ āitās just what I believe ok?!ā without presenting any evidence. I donāt believe thereās any definitive evidence of either of these for Kylo Ren, but one could infer either of these possibilities.
Unhealthy use of Ne
Healthy aux Ne is what allows INFPs to think outside the box, consider theĀ āwhat ifsā of things - but an extreme over dominance of Ne can instead result in too muchĀ āthinking outside the boxā or a detachment from practical reality. This is where the stereotypicalĀ ādreamerā INFP comes in, but in an unhealthy INFP this can result in too much dreaming to the point where they get lost in it and lose their grip on reality. This could very much relate to Kylo Renās delusional outlook and the fact he is so caught up in trying to act out this fantasy of being Darth Vader.
Fi-Si loop
A Fi-Si loop occurs when the INFP begins to ignore the external world in favor of their subjective perception of it. When this happens they skip over Ne entirely to judge based on subjective values and perceive primarily based on their subjective perceptions of cues from the tangible world. An INFP loop would likely experienceĀ extreme withdrawal from the external world,Ā fear of trying new things,Ā hyperawareness of bodily sensations (pain, hunger, thirst, etc.), beingĀ stuck in a rut/routine, andĀ hypersensitivity and emotional reasoning. (x)
Basically, a loop is when you overuse your tertiary function (in this case an INFPās Si) over the auxiliary function (Ne), resulting in a Fi-Si function instead of Fi-Ne. Outwardly this manifests as an extrovert who is unhealthily extroverted or an introvert who is unhealthily introverted. You can read more on loops here.
I believe Kylo Ren is most likely an INFP with a Fi-Si loop, or alternatively with a Te grip. To me, he seems an unhealthily introverted introvert, and displays much of the behaviour listed as common with an INFP with a Fi-Si loop. He has withdrawn from the external world to such an extent he doesnāt even reveal himself to it. We canāt know for sure if he suffers hyperawareness to bodily sensations, but the importance of feeling pain and having that pain tied to oneās power in the dark side might relate to that. His hypersensitivity can be seen in his adverse overreactions to things, in particularly his tantrums (which I believe are hypersensitive reactions to the feeling of failure) and his struggle with emotional reasoning.
Te grip
An INFP in a Te grip disregards their dominant Fi in favor of the cold, hard logic of Te. This is likely to happen if theyāve suffered some kind of significant emotional turmoil, and particularly if that turmoil involved a prolonged disregard of the INFPs personal space, values, emotions, or identity. An INFP grip would likely experience: rejection of the complexities of personal values and emotions in favor of cold, hard logic; harsh, aggressive outbursts of negative emotion; excessive criticism of themselves and others; adherence to rigid standards and schedules; black and white thinking; refusal to confront and deal with negative emotions.(x)
Compared to a loop, a grip is in fact just the outright replacement of the dominant function (Fi) with the inferior function (Te). In an INFPās case, this would mean the extreme refusal of the INFPās central manner of being surrounding subjective emotions and feelings in favour of hard logic. Itās an INFP going against everything that would otherwise make them tick, rejecting themselves in the most extreme way possible.
Now, while some of these manifestations scream Kylo Ren, others are more questionable, which is why I consider a Fi-Si loop to be more likely than a Te grip. The extreme rejection of emotional thinking may seem fitting to Kylo Ren under some conditions, such as his attempts to emulate thisĀ ācold-hearted, logical killerā that is the image of Darth Vader - and the way he is trying to enforce and ignore his true functions thus resulting in his aggressive outbursts of negative emotions. An INFP with a Te grip is the epitome of someone with a lot of emotions trying to bottle up all of those emotions and rejecting them, only to explode at any given point in time.Ā
CONCLUSION
While I have spent many hours trying to figure out what Kylo Renās typing could be, I could still be wrong. The truth is, we havenāt seen enough of him yet to be fully sure of anything, so many of these assessments are based upon assumptions, because we just havenāt been given enough information otherwise. But, in my opinion and through my process of thorough elimination, this is the most logical fit I could find at the moment.Ā
I will admit that I am also under the assumption that Kylo Ren will be getting redeemed, and that we will see crucial developments in the way his personality might not necessarilyĀ āchangeā exactly, but in this case, become more healthy by the end of the trilogy. So, even as hard as I might try to remain unbiased, I do feel the need to put that out there out of fairness of letting anyone who reads this know where I stand amongst all this discourse.
Also, I know that MBTI isnāt a scientifically-proven method of analysis, but I do find it to be an incredibly useful tool when trying to understand and unpack fictional characters, or even people, and figuring out how exactly a character might think, feel, or react to any given situation and why. But hey, thatās probably just my INTP self trying find patterns in everything.
And finally, to the poor asker who didnāt actually ask for any of this at all, and who Iāve basically just word vomited all over, Iām so sorry I just canāt help myself sometimes. In answer to the question you DID actually ask, here are some interesting sources that Iāve found so far on unhealthy MBTI, keeping in mind that I, too, am still trying to find more sources on the subject:
highonmbtiās discussions on unhealthy mbti
funkymbtifictionās discussions on unhealthy mbti
mbti-notesā discussions on unhealthy mbti
Healthy and unhealthy cognitive functions by Erik Thor
When going through these, as an INFP, you want to specifically be paying attention to unhealthy Fi, unhealthy Ne, Fi-Si loops and Te grips as they directly relate to your type.
I havenāt found any good books that talk about unhealthy MBTI yet (the ones I have read havenāt really touched on unhealthy MBTI either), but two books Iām looking to get that may interest you (if you have the money) are:
In the Grip: Understanding Type, Stress, and the Inferior Function byĀ Naomi L. Quenk
Was That Really Me?: How Everyday Stress Brings Out Our Hidden PersonalityĀ by Naomi L. Quenk
But I will stress that I have not read these books yet, so I canāt vouch for them having useful information pertaining to unhealthy MBTI.
Defining Ineffable Love (or, Aziracrow Learn the Rules of Romance)
(In response to this ask about ineffables and asexuality)
One of the major threads this season was Aziraphale and Crowley asking themselves what exactly is their relationship. Not what it is in terms of how much they love each other. (That's a given.) But what it is in terms of the human implications of their love.
Crowley and Aziraphale definitely come at the relationship with different perspectives, in terms of what theyāre willing to admit to the relationship being. I donāt think we can entirely interpret it in human terms.
āDavid Tennant (source)
For 6000 years, theyāve never put a name on their relationship. They didnāt, because theyāre inhuman, genderless, sexless beings and they didnāt grow up (as it were) with labels. And even when they did learn them, they couldnāt say it was love, because admitting that was a death sentence.
All of Aziraphaleās heart eyes and pining could live comfortably in his mind if he never admitted what that said about him as an angel (trauma compartmentalization). Crowley tries desperately to be cruel and nasty to add white noise around the blatant reality of his constant loyalty to Aziraphale. If you donāt put a word to it, itās not real and they canāt punish you.
After the Not-pocalypse, for all rights and purposes, Aziraphale and Crowley chose humanity as their identity. We see Aziraphale āplaying houseā in various human roles (as a landlord, a private eye, a magician).
We even see Crowley intentionally taking on human behavior to handle emotional issues: āJust breathe, thatās what humans do.ā Theyāre slowly and intentionally enculturating themselves into the world they want to belongāāearth.
Yet itās setting up Maggie and Nina that makes Aziraphale and Crowley start thinking about their relationship as a human construct.
Because fundamentally, Aziraphale and Crowley are not human. Like Neil Gaiman tells us constantly, they canāt be defined in human terms when it comes to gender and sexuality. They can shift and move through each and any of those markers at will, purely for the pleasure of the thing: āangels are sexless unless they really want to make an effort.ā
IMO that makes them originally asexual, in the sense they were created without the need for sex. And it makes them fundamentally transgender and genderfluid, because while on earth, their sexless, eldritch spiritual bodies take on human, gendered forms and clothing. What gender (and sexuality) they identify with while on earth varies through the eras. Crowley definitely has a fluid gender identity, while Aziraphale appears to have settled on gay man (aka THE southern pansy) for his internal typology (although all of these identities are subject to change).
In the midst of all this fluidity, itās no wonder Aziraphale and Crowley havenāt thought of their relationship in human terms before. Thereās just so much different in them and their bodies than what they see in humanity. And there are no books and songs that show the kind of love they have, in the malleable, sexless bodies they have, with the background they have; itās all ineffable.
Aziraphale and Crowley didnāt start out thinking they were in a romantic relationship. Whatever feelings they had were long repressed, redefined, and shuttled away. But they did love each other, without question. And it was that love which scared them, because it was bigger than anything they saw among humans, a love that was beautiful and blasphemous and unfathomable.
Kinda like what David Duchovny said about Mulder and Scully in The X-Files, āI donāt know if theyāre in love. In a way, their relationship is deeper than that, because they cannot live without each other.ā
Now take this profound, ineffable love and drop it into the little boxes and labels human culture has created for itself.
Full disclosure: Iām an asexual demiromantic person in a queerplatonic relationship, so Iāve done a fair bit of research on what romance is and how the rituals of romance are, in many ways, social inventions that vary from culture to culture. Thereās love and then thereās romance, and they donāt always overlap. So my interpretation of Aziraphale and Crowley comes through this lens and the fact that Neil Gaiman has affirmed the validity of an ace-spec reading on our ineffables.
Which brings me back to my thesis: That only now are Aziraphale and Crowley thinking of themselves as a romantic couple, precisely because they are interfacing with humans and taking on their social rules.
I like this one asexual personās description of their experience, which feels very much like our ineffables (from a very good article, I def recommend):
If there is a border between friendship and romance, then in my internal landscape, it goes right through a misty forest where no one has ever bothered to place signs....
Neither of us had intended to start anything even vaguely romantic, but the activities we did and the intense kind of immediate connection we had was coded as romantic in our culture.
Thatās what Crowley realizes when Nina confronts him about his relationship to Aziraphale.
āIt looks like that from here.ā What Crowley and Aziraphale share is beyond definition, but Nina cannot imagine the anything beyond the human labels she was taught. The tragedy of an everlasting love is that it can only be conveyed properly to other humans if it is cast in such small human wordsāāpartner, boyfriend, husband.
Because when Crowley denied those human roles for Aziraphale, Nina slid down the path of thinking Aziraphale was just his ābit on the side,ā because there were no labels left she could imagine for them. If you donāt put a word to it, itās not real.
Thatās the purpose of labels, to culturally validate a person's identity. Labels, of course, DO NOT create reality; people's experiences are always real, in all their varied ineffability. But labels allow a space for culture (ie other humans and political and legal society) to recognize formally your lived reality.
So Crowley started really thinking about him and Aziraphale, about the ineffable love between them and realized that in human terms, those would be the things heād call Aziraphale, because those were the words that gave Aziraphale that place of importance in his life.
But with that realization comes all the human trappings and behavioral patterns around those words (the candlelit dinners, dramatic rescues, drinks at the Ritz, etc.) which Crowley had never thought of before, and yet⦠maybe romance is what he and Aziraphale have been doing all along.
Thatās why this season centered so much around Aziraphale and Crowley using cultural artifacts (film and literature) to understand romance, because romance is so deeply socially-defined.
Aziraphale himself has been leaning hard into the romantic social cues (heās more well-read in the cultural trappings of romance than Crowley is), especially post-Blitz. But when he watches Maggie and Nina dancing, he works up the courage to do something with Crowley thatās even more explicitly loaded as ātraditionally romanticā than anything heās done up to that point.
Because while risking their lives for each other and defying everything for each other is love in its purest form, dancing (specifically in Jane Austenās world) is a public performance coded for potential marriage partners. It's an intimate ritual of the entire body. (And in British slang, dancing has been used as a euphemism for sex.)
Crowley's "We don't dance" is really telling, because it shows Crowleyās awareness of the unknowable devotion between them vs the human roles Aziraphale is asking him to fill, specifically its physical aspects. Aziraphale is asking to make their relationship more public, more physically explicit, more coded as romantic in a setting specifically intended to couple individuals.
While Maggie and Nina inspired Aziraphale to progress their relationship into a publicly physical direction, Maggie and Nina inspired Crowley to think of the emotional implications of their human roles: the commitment, security, and monogamy of a husband, a partner, an us.
Thatās what he decides after Maggie and Nina confront him in the end. āYou never say what youāre really thinking.ā He wants to codify his relationship so they each become responsible to one another. Aziraphale has always been his soulmate, the one he could always rely on. But he wants to place a word and a role to their love that will bring with it Aziraphaleās commitment and dedication to him.
And that's another reason why Crowley kisses Aziraphale, because he knows Aziraphale was willing to make their relationship physical, and he wants that, too. To consummate this bond in the way humans do.
But Crowley doesnāt really know how to kiss; heās not as worldly as he makes out to be. (Itās Aziraphale who owns the gun, and Crowley whoās never fired one.) He uses the kiss as a tool to get across to Aziraphale what he wants for them, in the physical language Aziraphale has been using, because "one fabulous kiss and we're good," right?
But it doesnāt work, because real life and real emotions donāt work like that; life and love donāt follow a script, despite the novels and plays and songs.
Aziraphale and Crowley spent this entire season trying to figure out what their relationship is and what they wanted out of it, trying to make sense of the unfathomable thing they share and the human implications of it, and not quite landing on the same page.
Part 2 of this Analysis, covering a correction in Crowleyās statement (āYou donāt danceā) and the further implications of dancing/sex.
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The fact that Crowley believes so purely in Aziraphale's goodness and forgiveness...
Knowing full well how seething this made him inside, he merely smiled kindly and said nothing, because Crowley knows how divinely unselfish and good Aziraphale is.
Because since the Beginning, Aziraphale accepted him, never thought he was evil or dangerous or Bad just because he was a demon now. Aziraphale put his wing over him, talked to him as an equal, and listened to him, despite what he was, because Aziraphale is that unselfish and that good and that much a well of kindness.
That's why he was so afraid for Aziraphale's life, so protective and desperate this season to save him, why he's always so happy to rescue his angel... because he knows Aziraphale won't do it for himself, because Aziraphale is not about self-preservation.
He's about doing the Right thing, no matter its costs. His angel would walk into Hell because he did a good thing. He would appeal to Heaven and God before running away at the end of the world, because it's the only course of action where everyone could be saved, the right thing to do.
That's why Crowley is terrified this season, because they aren't anymore hiding out from Head Office, they are actively on the run every day of their lives, waiting for the day the shoe dropped and Heaven and Hell decide to team up and wage war on the earth (and them).
That's why he's so destroyed by Aziraphale choosing to go back to Heaven, because he knows all too well how much his angel's kindness and willingness to see the good in something can warp the angel's perspective and his safety. And yet he knows that's exactly what Aziraphale would do, because that's the Aziraphale he fell in love with, the one who would look Gabriel in the face with a kind smile and say, "May we meet on a better occasion." The Aziraphale who, with the same generous unselfish act, break his heart in a million pieces.
A Wartime Footing: An Explanation for Aziraphale's Elevator Smile
(Based on an ask from @sabotage-on-mercury in response to my meta on why Aziraphale had to go to Heaven)
The creepy smile was one part of the ending I couldn't quite put my finger on either, until someone pointed out on a Twitter response to my meta:
The reason why its scary is bc azi is becoming properly angry at the system and is 101% determined to set things right (Source)
In season 1, Aziraphale was determined not to kill anyone to stop the Apocalypse. He wouldn't even tell Crowley where the Antichrist was, because Crowley's only solution was to kill him.
And because Crowley consistently didn't have any ideas ("not one single better idea??"), Aziraphale took it on himself to pursue the only option leftāāto ask God to intervene and stop both Heaven and Hell from destroying Earth. Therefore, Aziraphale had to keep the integrity of his angel status by distancing himself from Crowley, while the world was still in danger.
Despite this dedication avoid bloodshed, when God didn't have an answer, Aziraphale went against one of his core beliefs to help save the world. He was willing to murder a child.
For Aziraphale, that takes guts. And (seeing how he reacted at the end of the Job minisode), I wonder that if he had killed Adam Young, Aziraphale would have checked himself into Hell.
Going to Heaven for Aziraphale is ultimately a conscious choice, one that he is clearly afraid of. We see him constantly steeling himself again the Metatron in the end, covering his fear and hurt from losing Crowley with a placid smile and a flippant attitude. He's wearing so many masks, to Crowley, to himself, to the Metatron...
All season we've seen him playing roles (detective, magician, doctor, landlord). But the final role is warrior. Going up that elevator, we first see Aziraphale's eyes searching, worried, panicking, but unable to show it because he's not in a safe space. He swallows, blinks, he's breathing hard (you can see his entire shoulders rise and fall).
But as he goes up, his expression steels. He's quite literally putting on a mask (to himself): a vengeful, hardened expression of pure anger and rage (to drown out the fear and uncertainty he so clearly still has).
Michael Sheen conveying contained anger in both Good Omens and Masters of Sex.
Cuz this isn't just him scrambling to kill a kid, this is him walking calmly and knowingly into sacrificing everything he loves most (Crowley, the bookshop, his entire life on earth) to create a world that will always be safe for him and Crowley and humanity for the rest of time. Where he would have to go up against the most powerful angels, the Metatron, and God Themself to change things. He can't be the kind, sweet angel he was on Earth. That won't cut it in Heaven if he wants to make a difference in any real way.
He wanted to do it with Crowley, with the love and support and strength of his demon. But without him, Aziraphale has to channel something else to keep his resolve afloat.
Something he had when he was a warrior, fighting on the front lines of a battle between Heaven and Hell, when he very likely led a platoon into divine fields of bloodshed before the earth was born. When he was an avenging angel.
I havenāt done this since the Great War.
It was a time and an identity he had chosen to leave behind, because it wasn't the kind of angel he was anymore ("I'm not fighting in any war!"). In this context, you can read Aziraphale's passionate unwillingness to take a life (his pacifism) directly into his past experience as a warrior. It is often the veterans of terrible wars who are the most earnest advocates for peace. (And especially in Britain and Europe, where the violence of the world wars is still such a powerful and painful national memory.)
As he goes up the elevator, he's breathing so hard we can hear it mirrored in the soundtrack, and he is so hyperfocused on steeling himself that he doesn't even care that the Metatron is watching him. He doesn't rest until he's psyched himself into that warrior mindset necessary to carry out this mission entirely by himself, to be both the moral advocate and the uncompromising leader of angels who had intimidated him his entire life. To demand respect and to talk to the very face of God and tell Them they are Wrong.
(Please read this Neil-approved meta for further thoughts on God and Aziraphale.)
That creepy smile is clearly not there because Aziraphale is happy to fall into a toxic parent's false love. There's no comfort or wistful nostalgia in that face. There's no "it'll be so much nicer" in that smile. It's not a happy smile. It's an I'm-gonna-fuck-shit-up smile.
Because it's a warrior's smile before they go into battle, before they put on that armor and, for a while, become something they're not in the name of some greater good. He's fucking furious and it's downright frightening.
Because I have no doubt that the angel Aziraphale we get in Season 3 is the angel Aziraphale who can say this:
He's not quite there yet in the TV show. But this bravery, this anger, this flaming rage is how it starts.
Or as he's described in the book when Aziraphale mysteriously does away with the local mafia:
Just because youāre an angel doesnāt mean you have to be a fool.
honestly im very happy you like caitvi, every jayvik fan ive interacted with has hated it and its just been very :(((( all around. about your point on s2: i loved the dictator and enforcer imagery actually - it shows that vi at her absolute core is dedicated to those she cares about and when confronted with the direct fact that āif caitlyn goes after jinx alone, one will end up deadā and folded. because of course she would, thats who she is. she loves so severely she will abandon anything about herself to be there for them, which is also a flaw i love of hers. i think people take caitlyns ādictatorshipā a bit too on the nose and forget that, similar to how victor was being controlled by the arcane, caitlyn had a very experienced warmonger in hear ear egging her on the entire way. a girl in her early 20s whos taken no time to grieve and suddenly has all the power in the world to do the one thing shes been trying to do. it makes me really sad for her actually. one scene i love is when caitlyn pushes back against ambessa and goes āwhy does violence always needed for justice?ā when ambessa says for her to unleash troops. caitlyn at her core is not a violent woman, nor wants to be. shes a complex female character that i think is reduced to her bad decisions, while the male characters who have done worse get a bigger pass (think silco, machine heralds arcane controlled eugenics, jayce in s1, etc).
anyway, thats my rant haha. im just so happy to have an actual complex lesbian relationship on screen done by people who love the characters and have sex in a way that is clearly for their love of each other and not because ālesbians are hotā. i miss them dearly š„²
So late on my reply here omg!! Iām so happy to be a Jayvik fan who loves Caitvi. Like you said, their sex scene was so emotionally-driven and real, and not used for titillations like many lesbian portrayals in media. You make a VERY good point about how in general female characters (and women IRL) are not given as much grace as male characters for the flaws they make. And it got me thinking about the stuff in Arcaneās politics that I take issue with, just in general. (So I rambled on a bit about politics below..)
First off, I love your analysis of Caitlyn! What you said about her trauma and being influenced by Ambessa in the same way Viktor is by the Arcane is absolutely correct. In the same vein, Jinxās villainy is similarly influenced by Silco. All of these characters, even with those external manipulators are also ultimately driven by trauma (with Caitlyn, the loss of her mother.)
I guess where I really find problems is not Caitlyn as a person, but the narrative and writers for writing a plotline where enforcers as a whole (and Piltover in general) are not ultimately taken to account for the harm theyāve done systemically to a marginalized group (of which the dictator arc is a part).
The show has a Black character tell a police officer about the injustices they face against the upper class, and then have that police officer say, āItās a misunderstanding,ā and then soon after, said Black character is shot in the chest without any warning by another police officer. Because Arcane just doesnāt quite grasp the weight of the images itās putting out (like the subjugation of the lower class using gas warfare by militarized enforcement). Itās just not a good look in a world where police in many countries are being militarized by the government against their own citizens.
However, all this goes more towards Arcaneās centrist political themes, and not on Caitlyn herself, who is driven by the rawness of her grief. Unfortunately, Arcane as a show doesnāt believe that social injustices are systemic. They even have Heimerdinger comment on the entire imbalance created by the invention of hextech, saying, āIād always presumed it was due to mankindās turbulent relationship with power, but perhaps it is a property of the Arcane itself.ā Basically invalidating one of the most important metaphors in the showāāthat powerful resources can and do shape the world because of the people in power. Instead of addressing the social issues they brought up in season 1, Arcane season 2 just tacks it all up to fantasy magic gone wrong. What analogue do we have for that in the real world?
(And that is why Piltover and Zaun donāt really change in the end of the show, because Arcane the show wants a gritty, persecuted undercity against the glittery topside. Itās baked into the video game and it cannot change.)
Itās the one major failing in the show and why I canāt get behind it on a deeper thematic level. I enjoy the nuanced psychology, the relationships, and the art of its animation, but its politics ultimately leave something to be desired. Season 1 was mostly great, though, often because of Caitlyn and her journey, where she starts off very naive and sheltered, then she learns the humanity of the Undercity and how her government was wrong in how it dealt with them. Her quotes are some of the BEST ones about the wrongs of Piltover against Zaun:
CAITLYN: Ekko, it's wrong what's been done to you. You'd be well within your rights to keep it. I couldn't blame you. But... if you do, this cycle of violence will never stop. This is our best shot at setting the record straight. This city needs healing. More than I ever realized.
CAITLYN: You know what else reflects on the Council? Itās citizens living on the streets. Being poisoned. Having to choose between a kingpin who wants to exploit them and a government that doesn't give a shit.
Itās Season 1 plotlines like this show where Arcane can go right. It just doesnāt stick the landing.
Caitlynās story and her angst is purely personal and emotional. Itās a poignant drama. Sheās influenced to take on more power and violence because of Ambessaās influence, exactly like Jayce did because of Ambessa in Season 1. The show doesnāt really judge Caitlyn for what sheās done, but thatās because Arcane as a show generally sees everyone so completely from a personal and emotional lens and doesnāt really see the injustices of the class struggle as something to take a stand about.
Interestingly, though, Jayce is narratively āpunishedā for his involvement in creating hextech. He has to climb from the bottom of the fissures to the top of the hexgates, symbolically reliving the lives of people like Viktor and thinking about what heās done to destroy the world. Before heās zapped into the alternative world, Ekko tells him point-blank, āSo instead of it exploding in your neighborhood, it would blow up in ours. These are the same utility ducts that carry our water and facilitate our ventilationā (gotta love Ekko). And on the bridge, Viktor tells him off specifically for his prejudice. Ultimately, Jayce dies to right the wrongs heās committed. In addition, he realizes that, āI thought I wanted to give magic to the world, but now, I just want my partner back.ā In a thematic sense, itās basically telling us that trying to improve the world or be ambitious to change it would force us to lose the people who matter to us (this is what happened to Vander too).
In the show itself, both Silco and Viktor die because of their actions, even though both of their stories are presented very emotionally and sympathetically. But Silco quite blatantly gaslights Jinx (in quite a visceral scene in episode 1x07), and so many people around Jinx weaponize her trauma for their own ends (Sevika too). Silco has genuine love for Jinx as his child, but heās not above using her for the Cause, which is ultimately his failure, because in the end, Vanderās philosophy is presented as the right one: some things, like the people you love, are not worth losing for a righteous cause. And so Silco dies for the fatal error heās committed.
Mostly Arcane is telling us that your personal relationships are not worth changing the world for. Or in general, the risks of losing who you are in the pursuit of greatness. This idea is Arcaneās ultimate message. Thatās reflected in the AU universe, in the convo between Ekko and Powder:
EKKO: Your ideas change the world. I can't shake the feeling that that's who you're supposed to be.
POWDER: Things are good, Ekko. I like my life. I don't wanna lose what makes me "me" chasing some wild dream.
Arcane channels Jayce and Viktorās arcs through this thematic too. Jayce tried to change the world for the better, and ultimately his actions result in the destruction of everything he cares about. Viktor tries to start a healing commune, but itās fundamentally corrupted, because heās killing everyone in it in order to evolve them, and heās picking and choosing what makes a person perfect (eugenics, like you said). The narrative uses Jayce to punish Viktor, when Jayce kills him and puts an end to the farce that is Viktorās commune. We the audience are shown that under the gold and white shell, thereās a horrifying emptiness that screams into the void as the souls of Viktorās victims leave the world. Itās a horrifying scene that shows us exactly what sins Viktor has committed.
The show tells us that Viktorās actions were driven by the tragedy of his disability (much like Caitlynās and Jinxās actions were driven by trauma, or Silco and Ambessa who were motivated by love). All Viktor needed to know was that these human imperfections were beautiful (a wonderful thing in the context of an individual).
But I suspect the show takes the same stance towards imperfections in a society as a whole: That theyāre not something we need to fix, because that much effort and risk would force us to lose who we are, and lose the people we care about.
Thatās why thereās so many think-pieces about the political themes from season 1 falling on its face in season 2 (from revolution to propaganda, I think one video essay quipped), because for all its acknowledgment of the issues in society, Arcane doesnāt believe they can or should be changed. And this is where I think Arcane is wrong, because allowing the injustices in the world to fester and propagate just because āthatās how things areā is exactly what the capitalistic corporate system wants us to believe.
So yeah, whenever I talk about the failings in Arcane thematically, itās these bigger ideas about its centrist politics more than what any one character did or didnāt do. Fandom is often too black-and-white about whoās evil and whoās good, and Arcane is one of the most psychologically nuanced and morally complex shows in the fandom space today. People like to try to compare whoās more evil or whoās blameless, but Arcane is the show that says these ideas as useless.
Anger about the themes in a show should not be directed at characters, really, but the writers and the narrative and the corporation behind the production of this show. Those are the people responsible for the ethics we are watching on the show. I donāt think itās healthy to push more blame on one character in order to prove how much another character is morally superior. Arcane isnāt the show for that, because in Arcane, there is no good or evil. Thereās just the messed-up lives of people who just want to be loved.