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Not looking forward to the Theo-Buck storyline.
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I'm kicking a dead horse at this point, but let's sum up again, hm. Lestat's clearly abusive behaviours/actions towards Louis:
Turning Louis at his most vulnerable. expecting Louis to be forever grateful for it.
cheating on him cause Louis didn't want to have sex with him
cheating on him cause Louis was depressed and that was actually very helpful to him
killing the only person Louis talked to
yelling at him that he shouldn't leave him
keeping information from Louis that would be essential to his survival if he ever left Lestat (using his gifts, the coven and the strict laws, the ancients...)
laughing at Louis when he asked him if he was enough (but of course we gotta validate Lestat's feelings)
Threatening their daughter
dragging Louis from the jaw and dropping him from the freaking sky and making it about how Louis couldn't tell him he loved him
his "apology" included gifts and how he doesn't like to be abandoned, so whose fault is it really
making an entire song about how awful Louis is that he dared to make Lestat a bad guy in the book
crossing the ocean to go punish Louis for killing/leaving him. and according to Rolin he actually went there to punish him, so wtf.
Calling him/openly seeing him as: insane person, ungrateful, cancerous jackall, a whore, pimp (derogatory), selfish
Being dismissive whenever Louis talks about race. saying and doing various racist things himself.
and whilst s1 and s2 were (mostly) framed as Lestat loving Louis but also hurting him, s3 is framed as Lestat claiming he loves Louis, whilst he seems like he doesn't even like him (you can't like a person and treat them like that, even in the evil vampire show lol) and all of these behaviours were normal, something that Louis not only deserved but Louis has to apologise for. frame it as Lestat's POV. Show it to us as how abusers see their victims. the audience keeps watching each episode expecting to finally finally see it as it is, but Rolin & Hannah said "actually only the people of colour in this show are to blame for everything wrong that ever happened, including the actions of white people". dead serious.
how is this okay with anyone?
i just can't get over how dead my dash is. i still follow people who claim to have liked the season but they've pretty much stopped talking about it already. in fact, engagement with the show dropped off within days of the finale airing. there are some stray theories but no one really seems invested. when i do see posts from them it's either people trying to make sense of the season, coming up with excuses and expressing confusion, or people who have decided upon rewatching the episodes that they don't really work and now the newness has worn off they're disappointed.
i follow a ton of fan artists and none of them have been making art based on the events of tvl. it's either iwtv era stuff or AU art. many have just moved on completely to other shows. i also noticed a lot of people decided to start reading the books and they're now retroactively disappointed at what was left out.
the writers didn't need a big budget to do this season justice. they should've stuck to filming in europe and kept the one concert scene to the final ep. they didn't need to be on the road and visiting different cities. it didn't add anything whatsoever to the story.
rolin got snippy and blamed the budget because "you find somewhere that looks like europe and north america" but 1) many productions have achieved this. europe is a frequent stand in for north america and 2) you didn't really need to. europe has hotels and concert venues. it also has many, many old and grandiose churches. it has forests and huge country homes with acres of land, largely unchanged with time and it doesn't always cost that much to film in these places. there are period-accurate costumes for hire. you didn't need to have scenes of a tour bus on big wide north american roads or to film in canadian cities as stand ins for US ones. all we needed was daniel interviewing lestat interspersed with flashbacks. they had the fucking formula perfected. it was right there. then they could've shown the band rehearsing in any studio and built it all up to the concert
they could have given us a satisfying adaptation with the budget they had and the reason they didn't is because they didn't want to
they had a vision of rockstar lestat touring and fucking and doing drugs and recording music and that's what they prioritised over any actual story
what was the point of the failures? what was the point of lestat consenting to a interview with daniel he didn't want to give?
rolin repeatedly said the audience didn't just want two guys talking in a room again, that we didn't know what we wanted, that this season was going to be fast paced rock n roll. he made exactly what he wanted to make
unfortunately for us what he wanted to make was dogshit

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Like, S E V E R A L actual Black people have been found hanging from trees and dying in the company of their white friends and THIS SHOW'S WRITERS decided lynchings are in fact, hilarious.
Fans of it need to be fucking judged and found lacking.
I’d rather have Quan Millz adapting TVL than Rolin and Hannah
I've said it multiple times now, but if you start thinking that TVL was written to not do anything EXCEPT FOR abusing and diminishing it's Black and brown characters and getting rid of a percentage of it's audience (Rolin's own words and YES, he likely meant Black people) then everything that was confusing and incomplete begins to make sense.
You don't have to like my reasoning, but you'll see it's true.
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they really ate with Claudia's "can I cry and say that i'm sorry too?" line. shame that tvl went even more white man tears about it.
WTF went wrong with The Vampire Lestat: anti-Black racism edition
So many people have been writing excellent posts about the issues with The Vampire Lestat, in particular regarding the show's anti-Black racism. I've been gathering some of these for my own reference and thought I would share. This list is by no means exhaustive. I tried not to have too much overlap on points among the posts, and have loosely organized them. Please add your own/others that you love! (As a reblog or comment)
The context/going into TVL
v4mpgrrl on anti-Black fandom meets the de-racialization of popular discussion around the show
lilacs-in-the-wind on the show’s choice to deliberately explore race and thereafter its attempts to ignore/avoid it
kriame on the show's changing racial dynamics across seasons (with particular attention to Armand)
coldeveryseason on white liberal insecurity and fandom response to critiques of TVL
General patterns/TVL choices
subcrypha (pre-finale but prophetic) on the white gaze and the taste for Black suffering
coldeveryseason on the decision to remove book Magnus/Marius/Gabrielle’s white supremacy from the narrative:
tv-kiki on the specific brutalization of Black characters in IWTV/TVL
certifiedlurker on the S3 meta-trial and humiliation of Louis and Lestat's white goodness
crithir on problematic selective depiction of Armand’s violence
yaoiblackmold on TVL removing all blame from Lestat
Analyses of specific moments
crazykuroneko on inappropriate/reductive comparisons between Lestat and Claudia's assaults (3.3)
jeunesseoubliee on why the ‘slave’ language is so harmful vs. its use in s1 (3.6)
infinitelyweary on the seance scene, Louis’ grief, and issues with what Claudia does/doesn't mention (3.6)
claudialdpdl on the offensiveness of Claudia's words to Louis in the seance scene (3.6)
loyalhorror on the mistreatment of Claudia and sloppy writing (3.6)
certifiedlurker and crithir on why ‘it happened in the books’ isn’t a valid defense of Claudia’s seance speech (3.6)
tomato-frog43 on disproportionate violence against Black folks (3.7)
Things the creators have said
usaginoir on the 3.7 TVL After Dark finale (with specific quotes from Hannah in particular)
murfpersonalblog on victim blaming Louis
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I know I’m late to the party and that this will be an unpopular opinion and I disagree with a lot of what she did but I feel like the fandom’s reaction kind of proves Hen’s point. Everyone can think of times Buck was visibly shown grieving and that he was “talked down to” same goes for Chimney and Athena and everyone else. They’re all so quick to say “But this person (esp Buck come on now) was suffering more, why is she making it all about her???” And that’s exactly what she wanted to avoid
She saw how they were fracturing and she thought if she was honest that it would continue their trajectory and I can say that I blame her for that. Hen wasnt given the space to grieve and show her true feelings, because he was Athena’s husband, he died FOR Chimney, Eddie was gone and feels all kinds of ways about that, and Buck was basically his son.
Hell, people LOOOOVE to bring up how Eddie was talking about Buck measuring everyone’s level of grief, but it was Eddie being worried and expressing it to other people. Hen never got that, even when she asked Maddie the very specific questions about ‘her patient’ Maddie never followed up, neither did Chim. It was just momentary worry that quickly faded.
Hen comes back to work because ‘the boys are coming back, I want to be there too’ (I’m paraphrasing), she checks in on Athena’s investigation into the ‘missing’ baby, she talks to Eddie about how he is, she’s stuck between Athena’s beef with Chim and she turns the conversation that Athena tries to start about her being captain right back to her.
The only person really there for her is Karen and it’s no surprise that she doesn’t want to burden her more.
Feel free to correct me on any of these points or bring up stuff I left out but the fact that everyone was sooo quick to just jump on the Hen hate train left a bad taste in my mouth, because I really hated that she kept her illness a secret too, and I hated that she was too stubborn to see that Chim’s points has merits BUT I do think the show didnt give her the space to be upset or to properly grieve Bobby and people ignore that she was as there as she could be for everyone else. Shes Athena and Chimney’ best friend, of course she saw what they were going through and quietly decided that telling them about her feelings/issues would be a burden especially if she thought she could handle it all on her own and thats practically the Hen Special
Hen was right, and no one can convince me otherwise. No one has the right to tell someone they aren't allowed to feel hurt or grieve just because they think someone else had it worse. Hen was talking about her own pain and what she was going through. Why should she have been thinking about Buck when she was facing the possibility of losing her job, her friends, and feeling completely helpless? Putting yourself first in a moment like that isn't wrong
For an audience that claims that they enjoy the found family aspect of this show, fandom’s quickness to rank the characters’ right to grieve Bobby’s death based on if their relationship could be categorized as a nuclear family relationship was disappointing. After that episode aired, I saw a lot of posts that insinuated that because Hen’s relationship with Bobby could not be neatly categorized as father/daughter, how dare she say that no one asked her how she felt….when no one asked her how she felt😑.

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In my opinion there’s no saving TVL. There are a few crumbs of interesting ideas, but overall it destroyed everything of substance. It was an actual nuke.
The only way to “save” the characterizations for QOTD would be for them to say TVL was a fever dream or an in-universe IWTV fanfic. To entirely decanonize it, which AMC will never do.
But even if they did, that wouldn’t erase the impact. TVL was actively harmful: full to the brim of antiblackness, abuse apologia, anti asian ideology, misogyny, etc. Its vitriol towards the fans, actors, and writers who made IWTV great, was overwhelming. Even if they sweeped the writers’ room and got a new new showrunner, there’s no erasing that something as deeply racist as TVL was created and thought okay to release in the first place.
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