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this fandom has got to start actually listening to what the actors and writers say instead of convincing themselves and everyone else that they're just "trolling" all the time
literally when have they trolled people?
rolin and the actors have only ever said daniel's turning was violent and non-consensual. so why act shocked when yet another interview comes out where they say that? how can it be the final straw when they've never said otherwise? rolin said lbf wasn't going to be in tvl and then had to reiterate before ep 7 that he really wasn't going to be in the season and people still acted like anyone who believed him was an idiot because "he's a master troll" and acted surprised when lbf didn't show up. as far as we currently know, there was no past reciprocal relationship between daniel and armand--it was just stalking. yet if you take this at face value (when we have no reason not to) everyone acts like you're a gullible idiot. the writers have never said lestat wasn't willingly at the trial--the only person involved in the show who has ever disagreed with it is sam and he's not in the writers room--but the fandom still acts as if the show has confirmed armand forced him to be there
i have never seen another fandom where the majority of people in it form their opinions (and even attack others) based on what they predict is going to happen rather than what has actually happened on screen and what the writers and actors involved have said. it's so weird. do people not see how weird that is?
all of these posts and comments speculating about how they're going to course correct or how they'll change what happened in tvl to fit the events of the book
what makes everybody so sure they're planning to accurately adapt anything in queen of the damned or future books when season 1 and 2 already changed a lot (in ways that mostly worked imo) and season 3 did something completely different? we have just been given 7 episodes of proof that the writers are not interested in adapting the books faithfully any more and aren't particularly concerned about how book readers or fans of the first 2 seasons feel about it because they're doing their own thing now and even enjoy the outrage
how do you see what they did to gabriella and her relationship with lestat, the invention of jarda, aging up baby jenks just to put her in the most explicit sex scene yet, ignoring most of lestat's backstory (which was the book), creating more OCs (including black OCs who exist just to be tortured or insulted or a walking bag of drugs), creating entire plot lines for louis that still focus on him being a "pimp," switching armand experimenting on claudia--a tiny and bizarre retcon in the books--to armand cutting louis's head off as punishment and to force an apology out of him, armand branding louis, the transphobia and homophobia and ceaseless misogyny, making the vampires consume human drinks and piss blood, the complete lack of care given to how the gifts work and who gets them and how they work, the lack of vampire lore in general, making lestat a passive character who things just happen to, the changes to twmbk and marius, the lack of queer intimacy, changing lestat and nicki's pasts to give them a large age gap and have them meet in paris, changing magnus's motive so he's just a stalker with a crush, cutting out anything from armand's chapter, the total disinterest in philosophy and the nature of vampirism, having nicki cut his own hand off, the general prioritization of shock value over substance, giving claudia racially-charged language that wasn't even present in the books
how do you watch that low quality fic play out and still have hope for future "adaptations" of these stories?
what evidence have we been given of the writers just trolling everyone? that they have any intention whatsoever of changing anything they've shown or told us? i'm genuinely curious to know what people mean when they say this
I⌠am speechless. People really are that ignorant and prejudice ?
iwtvtwt can shit talk tumblr all they like but i have never seen people so desperate for approval and to suck up to bullies that they change their opinions on a whim like that
a handful of popular lestat/sam fans started calling assad a bad actor and suddenly people with assad and armand pfps are mocking his acting now too, posting clips just to call him cringe and saying he wasn't giving his best
any time one of them obsessively hates on one of the actors or characters you can guarantee they were an obsessive fan just days earlier. they don't seem to actually believe anything they say, they're always playing some popularity game
truly pathetic fandom on a pathetic platform
this fandom has got to start actually listening to what the actors and writers say instead of convincing themselves and everyone else that they're just "trolling" all the time
literally when have they trolled people?
rolin and the actors have only ever said daniel's turning was violent and non-consensual. so why act shocked when yet another interview comes out where they say that? how can it be the final straw when they've never said otherwise? rolin said lbf wasn't going to be in tvl and then had to reiterate before ep 7 that he really wasn't going to be in the season and people still acted like anyone who believed him was an idiot because "he's a master troll" and acted surprised when lbf didn't show up. as far as we currently know, there was no past reciprocal relationship between daniel and armand--it was just stalking. yet if you take this at face value (when we have no reason not to) everyone acts like you're a gullible idiot. the writers have never said lestat wasn't willingly at the trial--the only person involved in the show who has ever disagreed with it is sam and he's not in the writers room--but the fandom still acts as if the show has confirmed armand forced him to be there
i have never seen another fandom where the majority of people in it form their opinions (and even attack others) based on what they predict is going to happen rather than what has actually happened on screen and what the writers and actors involved have said. it's so weird. do people not see how weird that is?
all of these posts and comments speculating about how they're going to course correct or how they'll change what happened in tvl to fit the events of the book
what makes everybody so sure they're planning to accurately adapt anything in queen of the damned or future books when season 1 and 2 already changed a lot (in ways that mostly worked imo) and season 3 did something completely different? we have just been given 7 episodes of proof that the writers are not interested in adapting the books faithfully any more and aren't particularly concerned about how book readers or fans of the first 2 seasons feel about it because they're doing their own thing now and even enjoy the outrage
how do you see what they did to gabriella and her relationship with lestat, the invention of jarda, aging up baby jenks just to put her in the most explicit sex scene yet, ignoring most of lestat's backstory (which was the book), creating more OCs (including black OCs who exist just to be tortured or insulted or a walking bag of drugs), creating entire plot lines for louis that still focus on him being a "pimp," switching armand experimenting on claudia--a tiny and bizarre retcon in the books--to armand cutting louis's head off as punishment and to force an apology out of him, armand branding louis, the transphobia and homophobia and ceaseless misogyny, making the vampires consume human drinks and piss blood, the complete lack of care given to how the gifts work and who gets them and how they work, the lack of vampire lore in general, making lestat a passive character who things just happen to, the changes to twmbk and marius, the lack of queer intimacy, changing lestat and nicki's pasts to give them a large age gap and have them meet in paris, changing magnus's motive so he's just a stalker with a crush, cutting out anything from armand's chapter, the total disinterest in philosophy and the nature of vampirism, having nicki cut his own hand off, the general prioritization of shock value over substance, giving claudia racially-charged language that wasn't even present in the books
how do you watch that low quality fic play out and still have hope for future "adaptations" of these stories?
what evidence have we been given of the writers just trolling everyone? that they have any intention whatsoever of changing anything they've shown or told us? i'm genuinely curious to know what people mean when they say this

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it's crazy how tvl was a 7 episode season, just like iwtv. and yet, do you remember the sheer number things that happen in iwtv s1? hell just the pilot episode? the behemoth of a journey louis goes on and all the events that happen closely stacked to one other but none of it feels rushed ? comparing s1 and s3 side by side on what they do with their given 7 episodes makes the lack of substance in s3 starkly visible imo
"you just hate it because the 2-year-wait built up your expectations that could never be met"
no i hate it bc i recognize bad tv. hope that helps
can't believe i'm still allowing myself to be irritated by this stupid fucking show
i just can't get over how dead my dash is. i still follow people who claim to have liked the season but they've pretty much stopped talking about it already. in fact, engagement with the show dropped off within days of the finale airing. there are some stray theories but no one really seems invested. when i do see posts from them it's either people trying to make sense of the season, coming up with excuses and expressing confusion, or people who have decided upon rewatching the episodes that they don't really work and now the newness has worn off they're disappointed.
i follow a ton of fan artists and none of them have been making art based on the events of tvl. it's either iwtv era stuff or AU art. many have just moved on completely to other shows. i also noticed a lot of people decided to start reading the books and they're now retroactively disappointed at what was left out.
the writers didn't need a big budget to do this season justice. they should've stuck to filming in europe and kept the one concert scene to the final ep. they didn't need to be on the road and visiting different cities. it didn't add anything whatsoever to the story.
rolin got snippy and blamed the budget because "you find somewhere that looks like europe and north america" but 1) many productions have achieved this. europe is a frequent stand in for north america and 2) you didn't really need to. europe has hotels and concert venues. it also has many, many old and grandiose churches. it has forests and huge country homes with acres of land, largely unchanged with time and it doesn't always cost that much to film in these places. there are period-accurate costumes for hire. you didn't need to have scenes of a tour bus on big wide north american roads or to film in canadian cities as stand ins for US ones. all we needed was daniel interviewing lestat interspersed with flashbacks. they had the fucking formula perfected. it was right there. then they could've shown the band rehearsing in any studio and built it all up to the concert
they could have given us a satisfying adaptation with the budget they had and the reason they didn't is because they didn't want to
they had a vision of rockstar lestat touring and fucking and doing drugs and recording music and that's what they prioritised over any actual story
what was the point of the failures? what was the point of lestat consenting to a interview with daniel he didn't want to give?
rolin repeatedly said the audience didn't just want two guys talking in a room again, that we didn't know what we wanted, that this season was going to be fast paced rock n roll. he made exactly what he wanted to make
unfortunately for us what he wanted to make was dogshit
you know what? i don't want to give myself more opportunities to rant about this show. need to delete this account. the season's over gotta purge it from my mind. it's been real đŤĄ

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people who didn't like the season either haven't read the books or they've read the books too much and therefore must love rape and incest, something which the writers decided to make explicit in the show
the elitist comment kind of sums it up. care about whether a season of tv is coherent? well then you're an elitist. you need to turn your brain off and lower your standards or stop watching
this is the audience they're making the show for btw
seeing people who regularly rant in the tvl critical tag coming up with full-fledged detailed theories about season 4 like
might sound strange but i kind of think the torture scene put to bed any notions of armand/daniel being reciprocal in the past because this is clearly supposed to be an armand who has never experienced being loved in return
and if he's got daniel back in his life now he wouldn't be enormously cut up about losing him in the past
racists are really going mask off with their reaction to the criticism now aren't they? openly joyous about how "those people" will finally leave the fandom and let them enjoy themselves, mocking anybody who's upset, and cheering about how the "controversy" will only bring the show more views and money. it's all so fucking gross
cope/excuses i've seen so far for episode 7 and the quality of the season in general:
⢠it was a "set up" season to make way for season 4 ⢠it's part 1 of 2 and y'all are stupid for forgetting this and lack media literacy! next season will fix everything ⢠it's designed to be the midpoint of a story which is why nothing really happened because the midpoint is the most boring part of a story (??) ⢠rolin set out to shock ppl and y'all fell for it (uh congrats?) next season will be different in tone ⢠obviously there's much more to armand's plan because it wouldn't make sense for it to all be about wanting an apology from louis. just be patient, they'll explain in season 4 ⢠the episode was deliberately leaked early to trick people into thinking it was the real finale, but the real finale is a different thing that will come at a later unspecified date ⢠it was a filler season. they stretched the material out so they could bring the actors back and keep them employed longer (WHAT) ⢠there are scenes from the trailers that weren't included in the show therefore there's a secret episode coming ⢠the season doesn't count because it was from lestat's perspective and next season will show us the objective truth ⢠the scene with regina/louis/armand was louis' hallucination and never actually happened
have i missed any?

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This is going to be a long one, but you know I have plenty of hate (justifiably so) and free time (contains spoilers)
To be honest, I was really excited about a third season of IWTV because the first two literally kept me on the edge of my seat, so I wanted to see what would happen with this incredible world.
I think itâs best to be upfront right now: Iâm not a fan of Lestat. Lestat has always been a difficult character for me (mainly because I find him insufferable), so when I heard the third season would focus on him, I wasn't exactly thrilled. Still, I told myself, "Well, maybe this season will help me understand him better"âafter all, thatâs what happened with Armand. So, I decided to give the season a chance (spoiler alert: huge mistake)
To start with the biggest issue: I think there is a major problem with the storytelling and the plot. Starting off that way was already a bad sign.
Throughout the trailer phase and our expectations for the season, it seemed like it would be told in a documentary styleâmaintaining the interview format, intercutting with Lestatâs concerts, and so on. Well, that was used in just one episode and nothing more; so, how is that narrative structure actually sustained? I mean, previous seasons let us into the story through Louisâs words, Claudiaâs diaries, and even the Talamasca material. But not here; we get the occasional interruption from "The Failures" and the occasional voice of Lestat. Yet, since weâve always been told that "no narrator is reliable," why should we believe Lestat? He presents no proofâ like for example how does he know what Armand and Daniel discussed? Wouldn't it have made more sense to stick to the documentary format while also incorporating the other characters' points of view?
Moving on to the plotâor rather, the lack thereofâthere is a major issue: I simply can't find a coherent storyline. If I were to ask you what Interview with the Vampire is about, youâd say, "Itâs the vampire Louis recounting his life in an interview"âor something to that effect: understandable, simple, and concise. But if I ask about The Vampire Lestat, the answer is neither short nor simple. You might say itâs about Lestatâs life, but that isn't entirely accurate, because there is no narrative through-line in anything being told. That is a problem in itself; a story needs a beginning, a conflict, and an end. In this season, I couldn't pinpoint where any of those elements exist because the (non-existent) story is so scattered that I can't find its focal points.
Speaking of the plotâor the lack thereofâit is impossible not to mention the holes riddled throughout the scant storyline that actually exists. This could well be called the season of doubts and loose endsâand Iâm not talking about cliffhangers or anything like that. Iâm referring to specific important things, like the book; honestly, I thoughtâand I think we all didâthat the book would play a major role this season, serving as the basis for understanding Lestatâs vision. But no: we donât even know what the damm book actually says, so we have no idea what angered Lestat and Louis, what changed the Talamasca, or why Armand gained so many followers. And yet, that book is arguably the single most significant element of the past two seasons.
Letâs also talk about the narrative pacing; it is completely unbalanced. There are episodes (like the first one) where an exorbitant amount happens, while in others (like the second or third) absolutely nothing occurs; then there are episodes that feel cut in half (featuring the "The Failure" intro twice). I know Lestat is chaotic [or whatever other excuse there might be] but you can't simply have an entire episode focus on one thing only for it to vanish or lose all relevance by the next one; nor can you cram everything into one episode and then have nothing happen in the following one.
But letâs move on to something important: the characters. I think if I had to define them in a single word, it would be "caricatures." Any semblance of characterization or complexity they once displayed seems to have vanished.
Itâs as if they want us to forget the Lestat from the first two seasons and instead show us a version that just seems like a "misunderstood fool"âignoring the fact that he has been cruel and evil. It feels like they tried so hard to make the character likable that they lost sight of who he actually is.
As for Louis, aside from the fact that his entire storyline seems to hinge on an issue heâd already resolved last season (I discussed this in a separate blog post; Iâll include the link) (https://www.tumblr.com/zzzzidkzzx/820663061295824896/so-honestly-i-wanted-to-wait-until-the-end-of?source=share), we mostly just see him acting as a personal punching bag for absolutely everyoneâLestat, Armand, Daniel, and so on. He maintains an almost submissive attitude; the only time we saw a more sadistic side to Louis was in that single episode with Bruce (and by the way, whatever happened to Baby Jenks? Nobody knows).
Armandâs screen time is almost ridiculous compared to previous seasons. His character arc shifts from "Iâm going to be good... just kidding, Iâm actually evil, hee-hee" (thatâs how I picture the writers' room)âonly to drop the "Devil's Minion" bombshell and never revisit it.
For his part, Daniel has lost any semblance of being a real journalist. It seems like the writers just said, "Yeah, let's have the old guy shout mean things.đ¤Łđ¤Ł" Don't get me wrongâI know Daniel is a terrible personâbut we never see anything truly genuine in him. Except for those two scenes with Armand, which serve only to say, "Oh, look: Devil's Minion," with absolutely no follow-up on any of it afterward.
âand don't even get me started on the new ones. Gabrielle comes across as nothing more than a wicked woman whose only activity is sleeping with her son; there isn't a shred of depth to her. Oh and NickyâI really hoped to fall in love with him and the love story with Lestat, or whatever happened between them. But everything moves so fast (thanks to the stupidly rapid pacing of the flashbacks) that you never really get captivated by the story. And of course is thereâs Lestatâs bandâremember when this show could make you get to know a character in just fifteen minutes? Well, it seems the show itself has forgotten that; we spent about seven episodes with the band members, yet we know nothing about themâdespite them getting more screen time than Armand himself.
So, we have no story, no plot, and the characters are practically a joke. Whatâs missing from this season? Oh, rightâracism. I think itâs stupid to overlook the number of hurtful things said about Louisâcalling him a slave or talking about his hairâ(especially considering that everyone who wrote this is white). Then thereâs (spoiler alert) the gratuitous torture scene inflicted solely on him, and not on Lestat. (I discussed this more in another post; Iâll include the link so I donât drop too many spoilers here. (https://www.tumblr.com/zzzzidkzzx/822376856919621632/spoilers-spoilers-for-episode-7-they-take-away-my?source=share) But I found it absolutely terribleâall that crap they saidâespecially given that Season 1 of IWTV already addressed what it was like for Louis to experience racism as a black, queer person in 1910, and the consequences of that. So, did they just decide to go back to being racist, as if we were living ten centuries ago? (I know the world is sadly racist and horrible, but in a series that portrayed those pieces of shit in the past exactly as they wereâpieces of shitâyouâd think phrases referring to Louis as food wouldn't come out of anyone's mouth in the year 2026... but apparently, they do.)
But don't worry, because we don't just have racismâwe have misogyny too! YAY. I already knew that the women (in both the book and the series) weren't handled wellâoften due more to the actresses' portrayals than the script itself. But I found it ridiculous that the only thing we know about Gabrielle as a character (I refer to Gabrielle as a woman because thatâs how sheâs treated in the seriesâI know the books involve trans allegories, but we clearly didn't see that here) is that she fucks her son, and thatâs it; we never learn anything else about her as a character. Something similar happens with Regina: in her first interactions with Louis, she basically tells him that if he wants to get anywhere with her, he has to pay her? Totally unnecessary. Or the mention that she has an OnlyFansâcompletely unnecessary. Is that even important to the plot? Couldn't they have just said she didn't have any money and left it at that? But don't worry if you don't like over-sexualized women, we also have TC. We don't see her portrayed that way, but we also know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about her (apparently, one thing we do know is that she watched Twilight), even though she appears in every single episode.
Since Iâve mentioned Gabrielle and her sole contribution as a characterâwhich I think has to be named: the incestâI have to say the number of sex scenes between Lestat and Gabrielle is ridiculous; there are arguably more of those than there are scenes featuring Armand. But my issue isn't really the quantity (well, partly that, sure), but rather how itâs portrayed. Itâs never shown from a repulsive or unpleasant angle (I mean, the act itself is), but if you didn't have the context that they are mother and son, it wouldn't register as anything unusual. By contrastâAND I KNOW IT NOT THE SAME BUT IS THE SHOW ITSELF DO THIS PARALLEL âwhen Louis convinces Regina to play the role of Claudia, thereâs a palpable sense of awkwardness from both of them; you see it in their expressions and gesturesâRegina even wears ribbons like Claudiaâand that elicits a specific reaction from the viewer. With Gabrielle and Lestat, however, the scenes go beyond merely illustrating the horrible dynamic that has Lestat in its grip; at a certain point, it just feels like someone's fetish.
Ah, the musicâright, they spent a lot of money on that. Some people love it and others hate it; to be honest, Iâm somewhere in the middleâthere are songs I like and others I donât. At first, I thought the idea of ââLestat releasing an album was fun (and if I had the chance, I might even buy it just for the laughs), but I feel like a significant amount of plot time was lost to songs. I get some of them, but there are so many concert scenesâwhich I thought would be tied to Akasha, but weren'tâthat many of them genuinely feel like filler.
So yes, concluding with this we have a non-existent storyline, plot holes the size of meteorites, characters reduced to ashes, racism, misogyny, and incest. And that is how the worst season of IWTVâI mean, The Vampire Lestatâwas created. To be honest, the only good thing this season did was encourage people to read the original book (let's hope the writers and Rolin do so too, since he seems to like parading that book around without ever actually opening it). In fact, I haven't read the book either (because I'm still reading Interview with the Vampire). But if I felt disappointed without even having read it, I can't imagine how the people who read the bookâhoping to see its great momentsâmust feel, or those of us who just wanted to watch a series and ended up with all this garbage full of racism, misogyny, and bad storytelling.
So anyway, thatâs my takeâcoming from someone who was genuinely hyped to get... absolutely nothing. I really donât know what to expect going forward (since the door is wide open for a fourth season), but idk. They butchered my favorite showâyay.
y'all are acting so whiny. there's going to be a part 2 and a fourth season but if you don't stop COMPLAINING they will cancel the entire show.
The thought of never witnessing such antiblackness on my screen again is sublime, thank you for helping me imagine it