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deep down you know june is actually going to feel like this. put down the poem excerpts
Lolcow farm women are retarded, they talk ab how men are subhumans but when a woman hates pigjobs or applies the same logic to other gender(that if men are subhumans and women's biology is made to love them unconditionally then women are slaves) then the whole website bullies you
I've mentioned before that I think that activism is largely a waste of time, I'll try to elaborate on it here. Beware this is a massive and borderline unreadable word dump that I might edit once I feel like it, so it's probably best to not bother with this. I just needed to write something today I guess.
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There's a post on here somewhere that puts something into words very well; the vast majority of different types of oppression only end whenever they start to become un-economical or otherwise inefficient at exploiting labor.
I think it's hard for activists to hear, but unless it's just bad business, people are not going to stop being exploited. most movements only ever picked up whenever there was little to gain from oppression, where all that was needed was to give a stagnant culture a little push towards better attitudes.
And yes, there are exceptions, but they are rare, and they face intense struggle, more often than not. Think about how Haiti was virtually the only successful slave revolt ever; and how the country was punished and oppressed for centuries after in many other ways.
Slavery largely started to end in the Americas and the wider western world when the cash crop boom started to fizzle out along with other forms of industry. At that point it was recognized owning large amounts of humans was a horribly inefficient way to extract capital, thus it was slowly abolished. This isn't the complete story, there were ethical considerations kept in mind. But as long as there was a flow of money, most were willing to keep those to a minimum and turn the other way. Suppression can be cheaper than changing. And of course even now, many types of slavery are still common, sex trafficking is still rampant for one. And it's not uncommon for trafficking or next-to-nothing wages to occur in various types of modern industry as well, from agriculture to manufacturing.
Something I just stole from reddit:
In the case of Great Britain, I don’t believe abolition was realized directly by European powers’ colonization of Africa, but it certainly made abolition an economically viable position. More directly it was the work of former enslaved Africans like Oloudah Equiano through his famous autobiography and Quakers like Anthony Benezett Or Methodist John Wesley. Their efforts didn’t remove slavery across all parts of empire, but it started the move so that it would be possible. The Slave Trade Act of 1807 would be passed making the slave trade illegal, but not slavery itself (so they can be retained but not sold/bought). The Slavery Abolition Act of 1833 abolished slavery across British territories (except India) were freed, but still indentured to their owners. It would not be until the 20th century when Britain’s African territories would also abolish slavery. So in many ways, it was piecemeal and slavery practices still continued to benefit the metropole that could afford to “abolish” it. In the U.S., the Civil War coincided with Manifest Destiny, Westward Expansion, and securing territories from Spain after the Spanish-American War. Congress abolished the slave trade in 1800 and would not abolish chattel slavery until 1865. There’s certainly strands of scholarship that argue that the question of slavery was perpetually raised for new territories which is what made it such a hotbed for political division, because the Confederacy knew the political power they would lose if “free states” far outnumbered “slave states.” Yet at the same time, the U.S economy thrived despite losing its extraction of slave labor thanks to its expanding territories, cheaper resources it secured from the broader Americas, and cheaper immigration labor, whether the movement of folks across the Atlantic and Pacific, to work the factories and, new forms of coolie labor to replace slaves.
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Sex conflict exists and will likely always exist as long as sexes do. But there are clearly layers of misogyny.
Womens' rights largely vary with the type of agriculture a society uses and how militaristic the society is. When men produce the majority of food there's less preventing them from taking as much power as they wish. This type of agriculture are very labor intensive and benefit from a large population, incentivizing forcing women to birth as much as possible. Societies with 'easier' forms of agriculture can still be very misogynistic, but there is often less of an incentive to be so (see: groups such as the Haudenosaunee the Mosuo). Obviously I'm largely simplifying things and I'm nowhere near being an anthropologist so please do your own research, I'm just generalising things I've read.
There's a correlation with feminism and increasing industrialization, as it's no longer as efficient to keep a woman inside all day as a house slave if dishwashing and laundry machines exist. Why not send them to work instead to extract other forms of labor?
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se of this I feel that traditional activism is only going to be effective if the environment it's in is already receptive to change. I do think that there may be ways to engineer this.
Most "successful" (I'm being generous here, they always have one billion caveats) social justice movements have occurred during and after the industrial revolution, where labor was automated, both in the household scale (i.e. washing machines) and the factory scale. It is always more efficient to exploit lumps of gears and metal than it is to exploit a worker with a thousand different needs.
There's a somewhat bitter irony with industrialization; it often helps rid the world of many types of oppression yet tends to consolidate power in the hands of a rich few. In theory it can be decentralized but it's hard to do so once a capitalist regime is firmly in place; after all they are just another type of oppressor, and it is still far too economical to rake the lower classes with one's business power. Even if a few are rid of, there is nothing to stop another group from showing up shortly down the line, no matter what type of economic system you try to use.
What exactly can be done? I don't know. But I feel like it's worth at least framing things in a different perspective; instead of solely trying to convince people of something, I think it's worth it to try to actively change the environment.
A lot of stuff in the world makes sense once you realize how many of us there are and how horrible the living conditions have been for so long. People have been giving birth for so long and the world has been shit for so long. Of course people are racist and homophobic and misogynists, of course they don't care about others. They bring people into this world. The only reason I would bring someone into this horrible world is if I was delusional to its faults or if I was particularly cruel. Both these mindsets are held by exceptionally shitty people.

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There is a standard media depiction of a "healed" person. Someone who has Gone To Therapy. I've noticed this in a few works recently. We often see them at the end of a story, maybe in a "ten years later" epilogue. They speak in a soft, serene voice. They have Accepted what they cannot change. They have let go of a lot, including most of what we see them actually care about in the story itself. They are Happy, At Peace, in some non-descript way. They bare little resemble to the person we were actually shown. They bare little resemblance to any person. We were shown, as we usually are in stories, an agent, a desirer, someone becoming. Now they have Become. And they look back on all that silly becoming as something childish that they have moved past. Fire, you know, fire is for children who don't know any better. To be Healed is to have your fire rightly extinguished; to not even miss it.
"DSM-5 seems to have no definition of happiness other than the absence of suffering. The normal individual in this book is tranquilized and bovine-eyed, mutely accepting everything in a sometimes painful world without ever feeling much in the way of anything about it." — Sam Kriss's review of the DSM-5 as a piece of surrealist literature
16, looking at myself in the mirror in a bodycon dress thinking “what am I looking at” and to figure out why it felt so wrong I dug deep into my raised on tumblr popfeminism mind and found that it was because I was a horrible misogynist and the only way to heal my internalized misogyny was to wear more dresses until I didn’t feel wrong in them anymore. similarly I was like “I don’t contour my face every day like my peers. This means I hate women” and bought a contour kit to try to make myself a better woman. 2010s faux feminism was crazy. Didn’t work btw
It's easy to overshare online because, well, what's a troll going to do knowing you live in that country? Millions of people do, that info is useless. Then months later you might share your city because maybe millions live there too, nothing's gonna happen. Your occupation because well, it's not like they're going to find your workplace? It's all reasonable, you have no reason to be paranoid. Then the tidbits add up, people make connections, and you've shared more than you thought.
There's nothing wrong with being paranoid and secretive. You can never undershare.
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The concept of people replying to my antinatalism posts with "let people do whatever they want" as if natalism isn't already the norm. Their victimhood is so forced.
It's not like I'm going up to people with kids and judging them to their face. If anything, it's always pronatalists telling me I'll change my mind as if reproducing is the only valid path in life. So if you really believe people should do whatever they want, then maybe start by telling your pronatalist friends to respect people who choose differently instead of acting like I'm attacking them just for existing as an antinatalist.
It's time you put your money where your mouth is.
Ik makeup is not something ppl like here, but what do you think abt creative make up/ goth/ emo ones?
Cuz, honestly, some make up are really fascinating... Im not talking about something like "I can't go nowhere without it", but what falls as a self expression/ art category. Is it still falling under the "makeup is oppressive" thing?
(ohhhh im totally not asking for myself cuz i need an advice....ohhhhhhh)
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I have thought about this topic a bit in the last day and came to basically these three conclusions:
A lot of women use makeup to attract men or engage in intrasexual competition. This is the most mainstream make up. I don't support this because when you listen to those women, it sounds absolutely exhausting to engage in this mental illness.
A lot of subculture makeup (like og goth) clearly doesn't exist to enhance youth or beauty, but to signal group belonging and have fun. I support them, keep having fun, that's what we're here for.
People will treat you better if you look better and will have a better first impression of you. This is a well replicated occurrence, the goddamn incels are actually right about this one. For those women who need to negotiate with others, fit in and have a highly social job where they want to succeed, using the means to look better (including make-up) can genuinely be used as a social tactic, even though they internally don't want to attract any man. I came to this conclusion after talking to Immigrant, so shout out to her.
I like it when women don't wear make-up, but I also like categories 2 and 3. I think women should be free to have fun in any subculture, and to do anything that furthers themselves. If "furthering themselves" includes trying to look better because people treat better-looking people better and they tend to have success more easily, then so be it. I didn't make the schizophrenic rules of societies, but I think it'd be comparable to shooting yourself in the foot to not use them to your advantage.
I don't know to which degree this is an unpopular opinion among BPs and BP adjacent people. People seem to be more heavily anti-makeup for any reason under any circumstances here, and I get why. It's annoying, disruptive, I hate it too, it's not always healthy, and it replicates beauty standards. But I'm individualistic: do anything that allows you to have fun, or further yourself, but do not torture yourself with make-up for the sake of a man.
Why are these socalled subcultures so much about pandering to men and still being feminine? Why do so many men want a goth gf/emo gf?
Why are women so extremely desperate to find an excuse for wearing makeup and calling it self-expression and art? Seriously why do women have the need to smear this shit into their faces?
Why the fuck is "subculture" always seen as different to heteronormativity when women still perform femininity and men are still more masculine?
I know this will be unpopular, but I don't care.
"creative goth/emo makeup" who that you have ever seen in your life has worn makeup that is "creative" solely and not the exact same style as regular makeup, just black /goth style? Be serious. No one ever wears "creative makeup" outside of a specific video the made for the internet, and honestly you'd look like a nut if u truly wore atypical makeup outside anyway.
Sure. Do you have anything to say about the third point?
i do, actually. I don't believe that in the case of females, it is as cut and dry as "people treat you better when you look better". I think the data on this is skewed because that is always true for men. Attractive men are always, 100% of the time treated better than unattractive men, no doubt. (Unattractive men are treated better than attractive women tho). I think for women there's sort of a middle ground where when you look average and wear fashionable clothes and apply a little bit of makeup , yes that can be advantageous versus being unkempt, (which is bc people who follow social norms are treated better not necessarily bc she's attractive) but then when you are a certain level of attractiveness that better treatment vastly decreases and doesn't have much of an advantage, unless you're a model or actress i guess, and it gets more complicated and it is not cut and dry "the more attractive the better you're treated" and there's a lot more factors that go into it. It gets complex bc of misogyny and a lot of men have hatred towards attractive women, and intrasexual competition.
I think it's ok to wear makeup tho, I think it's kinda fucked up but it's whatever, just like it's fucked up all women have to have long hair but I'm not about to cut my hair. And just like I think it's fucked up that women shave but I don't judge other women for shaving. The creative makeup think is silly tho.
Super attractive women get treated worse, by other women, that's true. But to exist without friction, you do have to be attractive to at least a certain degree. Also, women do not hold that much power in most social ladders.
Males will accept being treated unfairly and scammed by attractive women, even when the scam is entirely non-sexual in nature.
Unattractive people are treated worse at work and bullied more.
Unattractive people are seen as more evil by default.
Physically attractive workers on average earn 15% more than those who are unattractive.
Attractive people are seen as more intelligent.
And so on and so forth. These studies included women.
I get it. Not all of us want to take advantage of fucked up things in society because our morals are stopping us. A lot of women do wear makeup solely to hop on dick. Do whatever makes you feel good, don't wear anything if that makes you feel amazing about not submitting to the evils of society and biology. I'm too lazy to wear that shit too.
But I'm not a radfem. I don't care about beauty standards or fixing them or virtue signaling how I'm not submitting to anything and never making any concessions to society to further myself. Beauty standards have existed since the dawn of time, and would continue to exist even if I made myself the most gender non-conforming woman imaginable on purpose to pointlessly signal how independent and sovereign I am with no clear goal.
If you don't want to climb any social ladders, or prevent any social friction, good for you. I don't see the point beyond "it's bad solely because it makes me a conformist even though it may help me".
Non-conforming to beauty isn't pointless just because others punish it or has no social reward. It has simple psychological value and practical value, similarly to how beauty rituals have psychological and practical value, obviously to differing degrees. And sure, it can correspond to niche ideas of virtue, integrity, dignity, independence but those are also not just concepts for inflated egos, they have meaning, just like valuing success and beauty or other self-ideals. It's just not meaning that matters to others. Conforming to beauty is literal virtue signaling which is your argument on why it's wiser to pursue it. People treat attractive people better because their attractiveness and conformity signals virtues like intelligence and trustworthiness.
So devastated over the passage of time I can’t even begin to describe, why must things change, why must things come to an end
Top 5 tragedies of the human condition
5. You were born in a bloodbath world, you evolved for violence because that is what it takes to survive, yet somehow you also developed the ability to feel disgust over your own impulses.
4. You are stuck in a decaying organism that has needs, desires, vulnerabilities, that can fail any time in horrific ways, you will die someday.
3. You were born in material conditions you didn’t choose, you were assigned an identity, a body, a flag, it was all random, did you win the lottery, or did you loose? Your whole life is now determined by your biology and environment.
2. Nobody knows what’s going on, not your parents, not their parents, not the priests not the scientists, all we have is guesses and theories based on what we can observe, but we’ll never see the full picture, we’ll never know the truth. You just follow the script you were given, and the ideology that soothes your existential dread the best.
1. The passage of time.

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People have been saying stuff for years at this point