I personally think the fact that Skyler was pregnant and then newly postpartum for the majority of the show gets glossed over way too often lol. Not in an "oh pregnant women and new moms are soooo emotional 🙄" way either, but moreover like how deeply deranged a lot of Walt's behavior towards her really is in that context. Like here is this woman who is pushing 40, experiencing an unplanned pregnancy and all the financial and emotional concerns that come with that, raising a son who has a disability and handling all of the unique responsibilities and challenges that are a part of that experience, coping with what was essentially sold to them as a death sentence for her husband, all while also having to get back into the workforce after an extended time at home. It's crazy how vulnerable of a position Skyler was in during the time when Walter was sneaking around behind her back, lying and engaged in illegal activities right under her nose. Walt consistently harps on the stakes of his situation but ppl seem to completely disregard the weight of Skyler's. She gave birth without Walt. Handled the sleepless nights and diaper changes and night feedings and newborn tears without him. When she desperately asks him to get diapers at bedtime, he can't even do that for her without traumatizing Jesse and going to a bar while he's out of the house. Sometimes I remember that Skyler was an aspiring writer and I just want to cry lol. Losing so much of herself in motherhood and caught up in Walter White's web of lies and abuse. that's a tragedy of Breaking Bad I seldom see discussed but it's one I think about every time I watch the show. Skyler White you will always be one of my favorites, I love you so much
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Hi I have a TG ask if that's ok. I was wondering what your thoughts are on Touka's tendency to wait for the people she loves to come back when they leave her behind (Ayato/Kaneki/Hinami) instead of chasing after them. Do you see it as a character flaw or the right thing to do? Sorry it's a bit of a random question, it's just something I've been thinking about recently
Hello Anon! Yeah, sure, it’s okay. :) I hope I remember the series clearly enough to answer you properly!
In my opinion though, I don’t think it was a character flaw: after all, Touka didn’t always stay behind and wait. In fact, in TG whenever she ended up waiting after people was also because of the consequences of her acting up and causing some avoidable damages in the first place.
For example, Hinami. At the very beginning, Touka tried to help Hinami and ended up angrily killing several CCG investigators, including Mado, which only brought her a lot of guilt. So when Hina made the choice to go with Kaneki, she didn’t have it in her to stop her, also because that meant that at least Kaneki had someone who would bring him joy & comfort by his side.
If you remember, she also expressed the will to go and fight alongside the rest of Anteiku at the very end of TG, but...
...in the end Yomo made her see that maybe she ought to live thanks to the sacrifices of others.
In fact, I’d say that Kaneki is the one who rather illustrates being unable to let go and chasing after everything that he believes is within his reach, which was presented as a character flaw throughout the series [x].
Meanwhile, Touka learnt the hard way that surviving didn’t mean lashing angrily at everyone who wants you dead. Remember Arata, who couldn’t mourn Hikari properly and chose to attack the CCG, leading to his downfall instead of dedicating everything to taking care of his children (I’m not saying he was a bad father, far from it, but the fact remains that they ended up being orphans because he couldn’t let go of his hatred towards the CCG).
Then there were many other events, which is why Yomo bitterly reminds her that she needs to make all these deaths count, instead of trying to constantly fight against the system.
Anyway, in my opinion all that development in TG is why in :Re it made sense that she learnt from her previous mistakes and avoided chasing after people when it would have led to more casualties than anything good.
One of the most significant examples is Yoriko when she was arrested by Mutsuki. Where Kaneki took all his allies to save Akira in a previous :Re arc and was definitely ready to go save Yoriko for Touka’s sake, Touka was not ready to see Kaneki and others put themselves in danger just for one person’s sake, even if it pained her greatly.
I honestly thought back then that she was immensely brave for that choice, even if many criticized her for it. It’s not like she was condemning Yoriko though: after all she knew back then that Yoriko had married a CCG investigator (Takeomi), so she left Yoriko’s fate to other people who loved her and she was right to do so.
Similarly, it’s not like Touka never fought again after the Anteiku raid arc: she did go on that Cochlea raid, to protect Ayato and save Hinami, just like she went after Dragoneki to save her husband. Because fighting for family is often unavoidable and absolutely necessary, which is when she always stepped up.
Then again, I do believe that Touka learnt immensely from the example of her father. He loved his kids for sure, but they still came after his vengeance against the CCG and that’s how they ended up without one another. So it makes sense that Touka wasn’t going to make the same mistake when she resented it so much.
That’s why I can’t see it as a character flaw, especially since she always was there to protect the people closest to her when it was needed. My opinion though. :)
I hope it answers your question? Have a nice day Anon!
makes me feel a little insane when I hear people have missed me. i am impacting your life in such a way that you not only appreciate my presence but notice my absence? and dislike it?? wow
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For some reason, I've been seeing more dung being thrown at Touka's characterisation in the series, and since I've been wanting to write a meta for a while now, I decided to do a short one addressing some of the criticism I've seen around. This won't go into everything, of course -- the series is far too dense with analytical potential and I am a busy bee. Just know that I do want to dive deeper into Touken/Kanetou at a later point.
Touka is not reduced to a simple, meaningless housewife, and I do not understand why this perspective is used to undermine her character so often in the fandom. For the sake of this argument, I will be mostly focusing on her characterisation in ;Re, as that is where this criticism is mostly rooted. Yes, she is less active in the first part of the second series, but between all the other characters, events, and plot points, it is bizarre to me that people see so little in Touka, despite all that she does.
I could dive into how Touka as a whole symbolises key themes throughout both series, and how that relates to Kaneki’s development, but I think I will save that for a separate meta. For now, I just want to discuss how Touka is positioned in the second series, and how it does not weaken the characterisation Ishida set up in the first.
Following the end of the first series, which set its tone as a tragedy, Touka opens the ;Re café to act as a refuge for ghouls, just as Yoshimura did beforehand. To clarify, Yoshimura saved Touka from her miserable life on the streets, giving her the chance to live with some semblance of normalcy following the tragic consequences of her childhood. And now, as an adult, and with Yoshimura gone, Touka strives to recreate that environment once more. There are those that think she has done this for Kaneki and Kaneki alone, but that is clearly not the case, even if she does hope for Kaneki’s return one day; she allows Nishiki to take refuge there while he tries to find Kimi, she saves Tsukiyama after the Rosewald operation, and before anyone argues that she was still not directly involved in either case, she actively takes part in Ayato’s mission to save Hinami. It is there that she then sees Kaneki and allows him a place to stay too, following his battle with Arima. She even provides Akira and Amon a place to stay, reconciling their differences in the process, (underrated chapters, I think).
Up until this point, Touka has been forced to ‘live while losing’, and whether she decides to fight or not, it is an unavoidable outcome when it comes to war. She is simply trying to do what she can without trying to kill herself in the process – a flawed sentiment she has seen in her father and Kaneki before, and even to some extent, Ayato and Hinami.
She fights when she can, runs if she has to. She is forced to make this choice again and again, especially when the underground ward is attacked, and for the sake of her unborn child and other weaker ghouls, she must retreat if she doesn’t want all of them to needlessly die.
That said, it is not as if she leaves without trying to fight first, she just isn’t stupidly overpowered like her opponents, (and that isn’t a jab at Ishida, I’m simply clarifying that she can’t defeat these foes with just Hinami at her side). Even then, she manages to stand her ground for a long time, despite the pregnancy and her hunger. Moreover, her kagune has developed since the first series, and like Ayato, she’s able to create more advanced structures with her ukaku. You just have to read in between the lines to see that Touka has never allowed herself to grow soft in the years Kaneki was away, and that only now, during this battle, can you see more of her capabilities.
And when Kaneki is trapped within Dragon, she finally decides that she cannot lose him – she refuses to lose him, because to do so would bring on too much despair. Just as Kaneki has prioritised Touka, Touka, too, will prioritise him, and so, even with her exhaustion, she battles against Mutsuki, digs through the Dragon’s flesh until her fingers and nails break, and almost succumbs to grief at the thought that he was already lost to her. The chapter is overlooked far too often, her desperate determination conveying to the reader the importance of love as a driving force.
Again, we saw this with Kaneki, who pushed himself past his limits in hopes of reaching Touka. Whether you like it or not, love is a powerful thing, and that has been shown throughout the series with many, if not all the characters. And for Kaneki and Touka, their love is their hope, and to lose that love is to lose their hope. So they fight, again and again, for each other and the light they bring into each other’s lives.
Now I can argue all day about how Touka is far more active in the series than people care to admit, but I do not think that is why Touka is labelled as a housewife. I’ve been in the fandom for a long time and this label has been around long before their relationship was canonised, and I think it’s to do with the fact that Touka is clearly more feminine in ;Re.
I’ve already explained that in terms of action, Touka still has plenty of moments to speak of, and personality-wise, I really don’t think she’s as different as people claim her to be. Yes, she’s calmer, but that shouldn’t be seen as a bad development. She’s an adult now, and with adulthood comes maturity, (or it should, anyway). She doesn’t need to fight anyone and everyone to prove herself, that is simply a childish perspective to take. Besides that, she’s still curt in the way she talks, is sarcastic and blunt, though not as harsh as she was before, and she still carries herself with plenty of pride and dignity, which was what was so appealing about her in the first series. Ffs, she confronts the whole CCG and tells them to eat shit because their arguments were annoying her. It’s ridiculous to me that people think she is a shadow of her former self, when there’s plenty of great moments involving her.
As for her more maternal depictions, that is also something that has always been present, if you take a moment to connect the two series together. She was forced to grow up quickly when she became responsible of Ayato, and she effortlessly took Hinami under her wing after the death of her parents. This is an attribute that she continues to exhibit throughout ;Re, watching over the children and trying to comfort them. It’s a touching image, one that circles back around to her pregnancy. And to deem this progression as detrimental is rather…strange to me. In a time when we see women as strong and powerful for everything we represent – our hardships, both physically and emotionally, as well as our strengths – why is it seen as weak when female characters are utilised to represent the strength of womanhood. Because she’s a woman married to a man? Don’t be so childish. If you respect her characterisation at all, you will acknowledge how she continues to exhibit her strengths as an adult, whether that be in battle or beyond it.
After all, Ishida could have easily written it so that she is no longer involved in anything past the discovery of her pregnancy. Except he doesn't, and instead, she fights even more, even harder, in spite of her pregnancy. Because of her pregnancy. And yet, this is somehow weakens her character? She is quite literally going beyond her limits to fight for her future, I see nothing weak in that.
It might be that readers dislike how she changes aesthetically, and that’s fine, but from that comes arguments that excuse why they don’t like her character. I could argue against every little argument I’ve seen about her, but at the end of the day, I feel like most of these points are made just to excuse a personal preference. And that is not an effective use of critical reading. You can’t make the story something it isn’t, and you can’t assume Touka was going to be a character she wasn’t written to be. If you don’t like that or disagree, then maybe this series isn’t for you and it’s time to move on. For now, at least, please give her characterisation the respect she deserves. Her role is so much more than the shallow labelling this fandom tends to give her.
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