In your About Me post, you shared that your kinks primarily revolve around loss of control and incontinence.
That’s convenient, since it seems you’re someone who experiences occasional legitimate moments of lost control.
From your perspective, it seems fairly straight forward to make lemonade from lemons with ABDL whenever an accident strikes.
My question is: As someone who also counts loss of control, incontinence, and diapers as their primary cluster of fetishes, what are your thoughts on engaging in these kinks with someone who is medically incontinent, and how to do so without negatively fetishizing their disability or objectifying them?
Hi @grat3fuldad! This is a great question and I don’t feel like an expert here, so I’ll just give my thoughts (which might be different from someone else’s). I’m a factory-installed DL and have been ~interested~ in diapers for as long as I can remember, even before I ever needed them for disability stuff (Crohn’s disease and Bbabybbear Bad Bladder).
I had an abdl partner several years ago who was super into the idea of 24/7 and very fulfilled by being involved in my care. He loooooved it when I actually wet the bed or actually needed diapers for a colonoscopy prep or hospital stay. So whenever these things happened, it was actually a silver lining, knowing that this was satisfying his ultimate fantasy. And he was very gentle and kind and prioritized being my partner above being obviously turned on by what was going on. What I mean is that I never felt he was fetishizing my condition when I was sick or actually upset/embarrassed/frustrated. He was my partner first and he wasn’t hiding anything from me. What made this particular dynamic feel healthy was that we were both aware of it (and I also loved it) and we chose to opt in together.
So I think it totally depends on the people negotiating the dynamic/relationship. Is it one abdl person and one non-kinkster who is incontinent? That would be super different and I think that would be a lot more delicate to figure out. Though I don’t think it’s out of the question! Sometimes, having someone who finds your stuff hot is a nice thing. But “fetishizing” assumes that you’re seeing their disability above their personhood or perhaps failing to be able to empathize and care because you’re so wrapped up in the sexual fantasy of it all (even when care is part of the sexual fantasy, tricky stuff!).
So how can you love someone with a disability without objectifying them (when you have a kink like ours)? I don’t totally know, but I think I has to do with being exceptionally cautious about approaching a dynamic like this, both people being super open and choosing to opt in (and when to opt out), and then making sure that in times of frustration or sadness that disability can bring, being able to step out of the kink-stuff and prioritize real needs and psychological safely.
Woah, didn’t intend to write a novel this morning, sorry about that! That’s my two cents and I hope it answers your question :) 📚
Disclaimer that this response assumes we all know that approaching someone or commenting on an incontinence forum as a fetishist is Not Okay. I recently saw this happen and it made me sad. Spaces for people with disabilities are sacred and kinksters should never disrupt that. (That’s not pointed towards you @grat3fuldad, I just feel I should include this since it’s on topic).
I think @resonantyes did an episode on this on LIB about the intersection of kink and disability! It was fantastic as always!