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fuck me father for i have sinned

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re: anakin skywalker, titty menace: which came first, the prude-ishness or the menacity? another reason we need visual media of the time between phantom menace and aotc bc did obi-wan start covering up around anakin at a young age out of modesty and anakin grew up being drawn to the layers and the buxom bosom mystery lying underneath as he got older, thus becoming a menace? or did obi-wan start layering as teenage anakin hit puberty and couldn’t keep his eyes from staring and awooga-ing at obi-wan’s chest for inappropriate lengths of time when obi-wan had never previously considered this was a mesmerizing feature of his body? which came first, the prude-ishness or the menacity?
anon your mind….
also really funny, and by funny i mean maddening that, despite the fact that star wars fandom largely agrees palpatine groomed anakin, and thusly a lot of debates fly back and forth about the blame game of that particular happenstance, but i'm not convinced a lot of people in those discussions are aware either of how grooming generally works or what ways it benefits palpatine to manipulate anakin the most. which is the part i actually care about, from my consistent and totally academic interest in whatever the fuck is wrong with anakin skywalker's brain. the most anyone can ever say is, well, palpatine was very nice and he flattered anakin's ego - but that's only part of what a guy with access to a vulnerable child is going to be toying with, and that's only a fraction of what he can do. this is an underestimation of what emotional manipulation can do.
we have to remember, palpatine's end goal with anakin, what he wants from anakin and why he engages with anakin at all, isn't to get a spoiled egomaniac with god powers. what palpatine wants is a perpetually terrifying second-in-command, a butcher on tap, a guy who listens to palpatine and only to palpatine and will do explicitly and only palpatine's will. spoiled egomaniac is the neophyte stage of the personality palpatine is invested in installing his sith apprentice project with. palpatine's self-appointed job probably imcludes shit like:
intentionally sabotaging anakin's relationship with obi-wan, sharing "stories he's heard" of obi-wan saying things about anakin that are negative, stories that never happened. subtly questioning anakin's faith in obi-wan, constantly implying or outright saying that obi-wan doesn't understand or care for anakin the way that palpatine does. when anakin vents about something obi-wan did, trying to understand why, palpatine takes an opportunity to paint obi-wan's motivations as cold and negative.
the above, but with the entire jedi council. emphasis on stuff like "no one understands you like i do" because it is part of palpatine's end goal that anakin trusts him despite all evidence that he shouldn't and that anakin, successfully corralled into Evil, will do whatever palpatine wants him to do. because that's what palpatine wants him for.
virtue signaling, in the sense that anakin as a child had clear goals about helping people, and a key to this is that palpatine can't just have anakin's trust, he has to have anakin's loyalty. palpatine has to Deep Sigh and Navel Gaze about how it sometimes feels like he's the only one trying to get anything positive done, how the world is on his shoulders. political moves palpatine makes that anakin disagrees with, palpatine either convinces anakin it wasn't actually up to him (it was), or that it's the first step to something better - if anakin questions too much, palpatine turns the tables, and starts acting hurt that he has extended so much trust and empathy to someone who will give him none, and then anakin ages nine to twenty three is an apologetic mess. easy to skip over any actual disagreement by creating a situation to pin the blame on the other person.
controlling both what anakin says about palpatine to anyone else - whether it's through something like the above, feigning hurt that anakin would discuss private conversation, and thus guilting anakin into behaving the way that benefits palpatine, or if it's by implying that if anyone knew about how much better palpatine is for anakin than they are, they would move to terminate the relationship. anakin doesn't want that, because it's an important source of emotional validation for him. it's excellent leverage to keep a kid quiet, if you're absolutely fucking evil.
convincing anakin that palpatine himself is frail and in need of defense, because palpatine is a public figure making public decisions that people around anakin are going to question. palpatine doesn't want that. the earlier tactic of Deep Sighing About How He Is The Last Good Politician is only one way, but i bet another way is playing up his age, alluding constantly to health problems that don't exist so anakin's in a heightened state of thinking of palpatine as just a gentle, suffering old man that people are unnecessarily harsh on. so even if anakin somewhat agrees with obi-wan saying "palpatine did [x] shitty thing" he is never going to agree with the concept of disagreeing with palpatine. palpatine as a guy in desperate need of anakin's protection is a really attractive angle for him, because again, what he wants is a devotee who follows his commands alone.
and also a whole bunch of other really shady shit that comes with attending the sith apprentice build-a-darth
TL;DR a looooooot of palpatine's theoretical gambit is intensely controlling anakin's worldview, and leveraging the emotional validation anakin actually wants out of the relationship to get it done. palpatine wants anakin to vent his problems, and then palpatine wants to re-interpret those problems so that the reality is essentially overwritten by what palpatine wants anakin to believe is true. it goes from anakin wanting to prove himself to obi-wan at Age Baby, and then palpatine says how sweet :) do you think it will help him be less callous towards you? i've noticed that he is. and when anakin's a little older, he's frustrated that he doesn't feel like he ever impresses obi-wan, the chancellor is right, his master is very callous, and palpatine says :) you may never impress him. and it just goes like that, an incessant cycle of "this thing didn't happen the way you think it did" and if anakin doesn't take palpatine at his word, he loses palpatine, and the validation he craves. horrible! but this is what this shit might have actually looked like.
let’s fuck like we hate each other

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anakin would probably love rubbing his face against obi-wan’s beard like an affection-greedy tooka cat
a man and a woman can be strictly platonic friends. but a man and a man can’t be that. they have to have violent gay sex and be obsessed with each other. it’s the yaoi rule
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Obi-Wan who makes videos for Anakin to watch in case he dies. He also makes one right before the Rako Hardeen mission...
He starts this when Anakin is a Padawan and Obi-Wan has to go on a mission without him. He records himself telling Ani how proud he is of him and that he thinks that he'll be a wonderful Jedi.
Then every few years he makes a new video; he never throws the older ones out, instead he collects them and hides them in a box under his bed.
At the beginning of the war he makes a new video; it's right after Anakin's knighting ceremony - Obi-Wan is sent off world the next day, so he won't have a chance to film it later - so he's more emotional than usual. This is the first video where he tells Anakin he loves him. And then, because he doesn't think Anakin will ever see this or care, he confesses he's in love with Anakin.
And then he also cries a bit about not receiving Anakin's Padawan braid, something he'd been looking forward to. He tells Anakin he had this silly fantasy where they would exchange braids (Obi-Wan kept his own all these years) because it would only be fitting, since Anakin has taught him just as much as Obi-Wan taught him.
Then, during the war, he makes another video. He tells Anakin how very proud he is of him, that Anakin is his pride and joy, that he's a wonderful Jedi and Master to Ahsoka; that he loves him more than anything, and only wishes for Anakin to be happy, even if it isn't with him.
At the end of that last video, he adds a rushed addition - shortly before the Rako Hardeen mission, he records himself again to tell Anakin what's going on. He says he's sorry he couldn't tell him sooner, but his initial reaction had to be genuine; he tells Anakin he loves him and that he'll be home soon.
While Obi-Wan is pretending to be Rako Hardeen, Anakin finds the recordings. He watches the most recent one first but he doesn't watch it to the end. It's too difficult to see his Master talking about how much he loves Anakin, and he can't take that right now. So he never sees the part where Obi-Wan tells him about the mission, and thinks his Master is truly gone.
Over the duration of the mission, Anakin obsessively watches the recordings, all the way to the first one. He doesn't know what to do with the love confession - of course he's always loved his Master, but Obi-Wan always felt unreachable. And even now, when Obi-Wan fucking confesses to him, he is still out of Anakin's reach, and there is no way to ever get him back.
So Anakin tries not to think about that part. Instead, he gets fixated on the Padawan braids. He pauses the video and turns Obi-Wan's apartment (where he practically moved in; he only wears Obi-Wan's clothes) upside down in order to find his braid, and when he finally has it he ties it around his wrist. Then he goes out to ask Padmé for his own braid back (which he ofc does in a very calm and reasonable manner where he explains the situation to her. He totally doesn't just storm in and demand it back. Nope. Anakin would never). Anyway, as soon as he's back home (Obi-Wan's apartment) he ties their braids together.
Perhaps he also got to keep Obi-Wan's lightsaber. If yes, he probably sleeps while hugging it.

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Jedi are absolute adrenaline junkies at their hearts of hearts and I respect that.
#not to make like. meaningful meta out of this#but like#if you could feel the fabric of the universe and you’d been raised practically since birth to trust in it and you KNEW it loved you#wouldn’t you be??#why not jump just to feel the swoop if you know the Force will catch you?
I’m sorry @merlyn-bane but your tags passed the peer review because they make the idea outright beautiful
thinking abt obikin who get married in secret but stay in the order and get outed as married in a really stupid way.
maybe 3po is at the temple with them (for some reason) and in front of other jedi refers to anakin as “master skywalker-kenobi” bc anakin reprogrammed 3po to refer to him & obi as that.
obi-wan seriously considers divorcing anakin for half a second after that.
obikin twin suns of tatooine... always orbiting each other but never touching.... completely dependent and attached but never actually close....
luke and leia pestering obi-wan about which one of them is his favorite and he’s like oh you two …. what a ridiculous thing to fight about ….. you should know i love your father more than the both of you combined so it doesn’t really matter who’s in second place 🥰
in the phantom menace, obi-wan wears a tunic that shows a little bit of chest, but by the time we get to attack of the clones, he’s added another layer underneath. this layering continues through revenge of the sith. but in the obi wan kenobi series, he’s back to wearing open-neck tunics that show chest.
wait the phantom menace and kenobi are both largely anakin free eras while aotc and rots were both eras when he was around anakin all the time….and what happens when he knows he’s going to see anakin again in a new hope….
….he covers up again

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modern AU anakin would say I love you mid-coitus the first time they fuck and obi-wan would immediately clam up and say something like “you’re a very bright young man” in response
Idk I think it's cooler if the clones betrayed the Jedi without the chips #controversial
Cody calling Sidious "my lord" when he answers the transmission is sooooooo juicy like we spend the whole movie getting glimpses into their comradery, but in the end Cody's duty as a soldier comes first. Some of the clones directly disobeying the order adds so much drama and fun. Don't chip my clones
So glad you asked @whispersofroses and I wil expand.
I really don't think they even have to hate the Jedi but I don’t think they hold any love for them, or even high respect. I think they think of the Jedi as soldiers too. High ranking, but soldiers. I just think the clones are soldiers and they follow orders. They serve the Republic, and when the Republic says they have to go then they have to go. The clones are representing military industrialization and the blind loyalty of soldiers, how following orders from the government blindly leads to atrocities and senseless violence for the higher ups. Idk giving them the chips says they definitely didn't have a choice, but not giving them the chips says they had a choice, they made the wrong one.