Okay Maybe She Did *Some* Things Wrong

He's morally ambivalent: he's well-intentioned. But he's complicit of the abuse by the Irie institute, and he's got a history of terrible medical acts. He's a deeply sympathetic and multilayered character, I should re-read the start of episode 8.

Like Shion should technically marked as spoiler. I read Watanagashi thinking that she was just a persona of Mion, and I was hit like a truck when she appeared in Angel Mort. If I knew she was an independent character my reading of the chapter would have been massively different. But if you spend 15mn on the internet you can't ignore the existence of the twins.

On the opposite, Hanyū is considered as a spoiler. Yet, I discovered around chapter 6 (when I looked at opening of Kai anime) and it didn't give my any clue. Sure there's an anime girl with horns, so what?

(But yeah I agree with your post. Drawing a line between spoiler and non-spoilers in Umineko is a mess, Higurashi is nothing in comparison.)

oh i feel very similarly about both your points about higurashi...shion's unavoidable but i thankfully had two friends tell me completely opposite things about her existence (they didn't even coordinate, they just had different strategies for talking to me) and that was enough to make watanagashi feel like it might be an open question. playing higurashi after umineko also helped in that regard, lol...two characters being drawn separately in all the fanart doesn't have to mean we're dealing with two different bodies, of course

i try not to refer to shion by name around my friends who are planning on playing higurashi if i can help it, but it's definitely one of those things you just can't truly avoid unless you live under a rock. it's unfortunate

and hanyuu...yeah she's funny because she's such a completely unhelpful spoiler. i'd seen her in the fanart before i even started higurashi and honestly knowing she was somehow gonna show up only added to my questions. like i don't know, the incidence are coincidental but also there's a purple one with horns somewhere in the mix i guess LOL. i guess it's possible to guess she's oyashiro-sama based on her slightly supernatural appearance (i think i had suspicions?) but even that's like. okay so the god is real. now what

seeing a picture of lion isn't much of a spoiler until you've read exactly enough of umineko to know what the one-winged eagle on someone's clothing signifies, at which point lion's existence becomes turbo spoilers. there's a post pointing out that the fact that beatrice appears as a Character in the story at all kind of hurts a lot of the mystique of episode 1 but basically no one can reasonably treat that as a spoiler anymore

it's all very contextual. i spoiler tagged virgilia before my friends encountered her! EVA beatrice's name out of context is a bit of a fake spoiler, but being too cavalier about her might tip someone off to that fact and throw off someone's episode 3

seeing a picture of lion isn't much of a spoiler until you've read exactly enough of umineko to know what the one-winged eagle on someone's clothing signifies, at which point lion's existence becomes turbo spoilers. there's a post pointing out that the fact that beatrice appears as a Character in the story at all kind of hurts a lot of the mystique of episode 1 but basically no one can reasonably treat that as a spoiler anymore

it's all very contextual. i spoiler tagged virgilia before my friends encountered her! EVA beatrice's name out of context is a bit of a fake spoiler, but being too cavalier about her might tip someone off to that fact and throw off someone's episode 3

while these are in fact two different characters