Can't I just like a Character simply because his character setting is Fascinating??
Toward SVSSS, honestly, there is only mild emotion for it. I neither hate nor like the characters terribly. Because...SV as literature does not have enough depth to evoke my interest to discuss and vigorously dislike or admire the characters.
I like Shen Jiu, but Shen Jiu Stan and Shen Yuan Stan make me feel awkward, because both parties actually perceive Shen Jiu worse than what he is depicted in the novel.
Toward the characters in SV, Shen Jiu (Shen Qingqiu) is the most interesting for me (handsome, genius, talented, hard-working, loyal to his comrades, has a surprisingly formidable mental fortitude to keep on living, climbing higher and work harder, rather than just crying snots and tears to complain about his bad fate). It is a fact that he is a Scum, but it is also a fact that he is worthy of admiration to be "Shen Qingqiu" from a Shen Jiu. Using his own abilities and hard work, without any cheats, golden finger, or due to special heritage.
Then here comes the calamity.
Shen Jiu Stan be like : Shen Jiu is the most pitiful. He is innocent, he is just a depressed person. He has been raped, he has been abused, oh how pitiful this weak flower is. Everything he did is because he has trauma. He has all the angsty points, we should like him because he has a tragic past. He abused Luo Binghe because he wanted to train him and has no malicious intent.
Like, ????? Why????? When did Shen Jiu got raped?? Why didn't I know it from the novel??
Shen Jiu is admirable because he is not weak and his perseverance amazed me.
As long as I know, Shen Jiu despises to mingle with men because Adult Men hit him, abuse him physically, not because he has been raped.
Sure he has a pitiful past, but what makes him Fascinating as a character is not because of his past, but because of his own character, his own abilities, basically, he is worthy of admiration because of his own person, not because of his tragic back story.
Shen Jiu's treatment toward Luo Binghe is not because he secretly wanted to train him, or because he's just an unreasonable bastard who got jealous of a kid.
Just like Shen Yuan said in the flashback chapters,
Liu-juju, so it's your mouth who caused the whole tragedy onward! (lol)
It was to respond on Liu Qingge who said,
"Compared to a person who started cultivating in his 16, of course, talent is more important".
Just to spite Shen Jiu previous remarks toward the child Binghe,
"Having talent is not the most important".
He carelessly mocks Shen Jiu, without even knowing the reason why Shen Jiu has to start cultivating late or has his cultivation meet Qi Deviation frequently. He takes it as face value that Shen Qingqiu is just a lazy bum who complained why others are more talented.
Since Liu Qingge compared Shen Qingqiu to Luo Binghe, Shen Qingqiu granted his wish. To prove that Talent is not everything.
Shen Qingqiu subjected Luo Binghe to the treatment that Shen Qingqiu has to go through in his past life.
Wanting to see if Luo Binghe who was said to have talent, and if Talent is everything, can he survive and be worthy of his talent, when facing such a hell-like life as Shen Qingqiu had before? Can he free himself from the torment of life on his own? Can he eventually reach the points of Shen Qingqiu today after having a horrible childhood and teenage life without being scarred physically and psychologically? Or worse can he continue to be alive and has a sane mind after countless setbacks
Ironically, from the start, Shen Qingqiu just couldn't compare with Luo Binghe, lol.
Ironically, it is true that Talent is Not Everything, but Bloodline is! (lol). The starting points are already different because one is a normal human, and the other is a Heavenly Demon. How can you compare? Just go home and drink some tea rather than trying to prove theories about talent and capabilities!
This kind of operation to experiment on a human being to prove whether talents are more important, of course, only a twisted person like Shen Qingqiu who has never gotten an opportunity to at least cultivate his worldview into a positive one, who will be able to do so.
It is questionable, and Scummy, when we see it from a Normal person's perspective.
However, from how I perceive the novel, This is the reason for his abuse of Luo Binghe. Not because he secretly wanted to nurture Binghe, and not because he is a mere jealous person.
Then, leaving aside Shen Jiu stan and how Shen Jiu was portrayed as a weak person who couldn't even bind a chicken, another sour feeling came from Shen Yuan's enthusiasts.
Shen Yuan Stan be like : Shen Jiu being dead is better for the world, and even better for the characters around him. Those who like Shen Jiu are only projecting themselves to the paper character and be afraid that someday they will inexplicably die, their body, identity, and achievements used by others, and they will be forgotten. It's just personal fear.
Standing on moral high ground and criticizing,
"Why are you so unreasonable? Why are you So petty? Why are you so selfish? You are just making trouble. You should understand the bigger picture, For the goodness of the world, it's better for you to die. You can only bring harm to the world, so it's better if you die and give your body, identity and hard work to be used by others to save the world. It's all for the better world!"
You don't have any value to be alive. It's better for you to die, because if you live you will only harm others and harm yourself. So just be grateful that you die early.
To make a better world, for the better world, for the happiness of others, you should accept your bad fate! You are a villain, so just let a good person use your everything to save the world. It's better to die early than die miserably later.
??? Isn't it a moral kidnapping????
And why did liking Shen Jiu be ridiculed as projecting his bad fate to us? Besides, is projecting a situation into a real case is considered wrong or strange?
First of all, The reason why characters in Fiction are called Heroes or Villain is that their actions and characters conform to the currently known moral Bottomline, and social acceptance.
The reason Heroes are said to be Good People is that the readers realized that when some deeds that the hero did in the novel happened to us, it is actually a good thing and will benefit us, so we call the character a good person, the Hero.
The reason why Villains are said to be Bad People is that when the readers projected themselves to the recipient of their deeds, they will feel unfair or suffer injustice because it harmed individual or even communal interest. So the readers judged it as a Bad Person, the Villain.
In other words, It has always been the case to project a situation in fiction into a real case in our society to judge whether it is a good or bad thing.
The reason why we judge Shen Qingqiu as Scum for abusing Luo Binghe is that society already projecting that Child abuse is wrong, harming others without clear cause and effect is wrong. The reason it got called wrong was Empathy. Because, if Us, our brother or son, actually is in Luo Binghe's shoe, it will feel extremely unfair and miserable.
It's the same reason as to when people think if someday Us, our family, our husband, or friend, etc, actually died inexplicably and got replaced by a stranger, and this stranger inherited everything the original host has cheaply.
So, why is it wrong to say that the transmigration in SVSSS is questionable after we projected it to a real case? Aren't others also judging good or bad in fiction based on the empathy of real cases?
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