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So. Yes. I think Tobirama hate and is afraid of Madara. But not only him. He hates and fears all of Uchiha kind. I was rewatching the 4th war arc and if you listen to Tobirama's monologue when he explains his thoughts on Uchiha's to Sasuke… Well, it's disturbing. It's sick. In front of orphan who lived through the massacre, Tobirama tells that all Uchiha's are "possessed by evil" and they also "possessed strength that surpassed that of the Senju". And he controlled and oppressed Uchiha's to make them useful to the village. Because he didn't like that Uchiha's family ties were placed above fellow villagers (whether he himself would prefer not Hashirama, but someone else - an open question). So, he literally said in front of a massacre survivor who's entire family and clan was killed for Hokage's demand that his family members were all "possessed by evil", insane, unstable and "welp, if they all died… it's their fault" (he heard, that they were killed, tho).

He didn't think of Uchiha's as of people. And he's not ashamed to claim that, even. He saw Uchiha's only as something useful. And if they are not so useful as Tobirama expects (at the same time, the standards of loyalty were lower for other villagers) then they deserve to die. He never ever regretted that he killed Izuna. And he never ever regretted that he forced the Uchiha clan to live in a ghetto on the outskirts of the prison and created prejudice against them. He wanted to have Uchiha's power at his side, but with ultimate devotion to the level when he expected that Uchiha's will sacrifice everything, everyone, even own child, even themselves to prove their loyalty. Even Hashirama seems to be shocked about his lil brother's behavior. He tries to hush Tobirama, but Tobirama simply don't think he did something wrong. He would, if that was someone else - another Senju, another shinobi, anyone else, but not Uchiha's. Uchiha's had to come to terms with prejudice, oppression, inequality, life on the reservation, mistrust and provocations. And if they're not - well, let's kill them. He had never even considered that simply giving the Uchiha's equality with the other villagers and stopping oppressing them would solve any conflicts. Because he didn't see them as people who deserved a normal life like everyone else.

Yue Qi becoming a cultivator wasnt some magical cure to everything. There would still be work and planning necessary in order to get him out of there without huge consequnces. And the thing is, I think sqq understands this. I think he understood this when he burnt down the qiu estate, perhaps even long before that. He probably considered plans for it—what to do once Yue Qi came back. But even when he understood, he waited, because the important partof their promise wasnt who precisely did the saving, it was that Yue Qi would come back for him, that Yue Qi cared about him, even if he found a better life for himself

Yue Qingyuan, i think, doesnt understand this at all. I think he really believes if he was just a little faster, if hed just gotten there sooner, if he hadnt been trapped in the caves, if he hadnt messed everything up, then he would have been able to show up in time to whisk sj away. The sentiment of the promise isnt so important to him—of course he loves sj, he always has put him first in all things, it goes without saying bc every single thing he does and says is an "i love you"—to him, the part of the promise that sat most heavily was the responsibilty. Its not enough to come back without strength, its not enough just to care—he had to save sj, and he failed.

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Shen Jiu | The Original Shen Qingqiu

Shen Jiu Peak Lord Shen Qingqiu

?? it doesn’t have to be one of the two choices, his shizun could easily be a neutral figure which is most likely for such a position anyway? why the need for inventing new abuse for someone who has already been through every single torture under the sun?

You cannot use the reasoning “LBH was raised that way” and not also include SJ in that statement.

LBH faced pain within his peak mostly by other disciples and few really bad times from SQQ himself. That’s bad and should have been addressed appropriately.

SJ had been abused and beaten all his life. From slavers to the Qiu’s to his demon cultivation master who ultimately ruined his core, to his peak and even his sect martial siblings. While LBH chose revenge. SQQ chose to rise above all odds.

LBH: Murdered numerous children and innocent bystanders, burned down sects and asserted himself as the ONLY ruler. Many wives that some of which have a questionable recruitment. Allied with another demon and child murderer who got away scot-free (SQH and airplane too). Took pleasure in abusing his previous abuser but took it out on everyone, not just the abuser.

SQQ: rose to be the master tactician of a sect that belittles and devalues him daily. Questions his validity and makes baseless accusations on him and slander him. Only killed to survive ( Qiu manor, his previous master). Lqg doesn’t count as he never intentionally murdered him. A tactician wouldn’t risk their strongest any even if they can’t stand each other.