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here is which DnD class and species i think each character would be - based on vibes and extrapolation of canon, not strictly the canon itself bc otherwise they would all be fighters
so (buckle up bc this is a longer one)
kafka: cleric, grave domain - hobgoblin
a grave domain cleric concerns themselves with the line between life and death and the good treatment of souls of the deceased. one of their main duties is to care for and protect the restless dead and give them peace
this reminded me of kafkaās responsibility toward the dead soldiers whose resentment spawned no 8. i debated going with paladin - kafka has a mission and a responsibility and reverence for these souls. but ultimately, kafkaās main goal to stand beside mina didn't feel like an oath to me? also, his other narrative purpose is to bring healing to the people around him, tho in the kn8 story that manifests as emotional healing only
the choice to make him a hobgoblin comes from a similar place. hobgoblins' main species trait is to give and receive help from their allies, and this felt very fitting
you think iām not gonna give my girl arcane archer??
seriously tho, canon mina is specialised for long distance shooting. she can do other stuff, sure, but shooting shit from far away with a beast companion by her side? doesnāt get more mina than that
fighters get a lot of attacks and rangers can add a buttload of damage, making this build a great long-range heavy hitter.
mina is basically a specialist min-maxxer, both in canon and my dnd build for her
mina has an elegance that makes me think of classical elves, and the wood elf variant gives her extra speed and pairs well with the ranger class
reno: sorcerer, shadow magic subclass - triton
i honestly wasnāt sure with this one, because reno doesn't stand out as particularly charismatic, but i think sorcerers should be con-based casters anyway so whatever
i couldnāt resist the flavouring of shadow sorcerers having bodies as cold as ice, and they get access to a lot of cold-damage related spells , which fits reno well
sorcerers are heavy-hitters, dramatic and cool to look at. i think that fits renos very dramatic and badass no. 6 suit
triton gives my boy cold resistance. that's basically it.
kikoru: paladin, oath of vengeance subclass - blue dragonborn
this one is a bit of a no-brainer for me
kikoru is the ultimate paladin - a life long mission with an oath that is both personal and institutional in nature, sheās a heavy hitter with a greataxe and she deserves to have her smites. she embodies hope for the defense force's future
her dedication and her personal preference for dramatic flair is what made me go for paladin rather than fighter, though i might multi-class her as she levels up
obviously her motivations extend beyond avenging her parents but thatās still very important to her. the vengeance subclass is less focused on healing, centreing more on dealing heavy damage and bringing opponents low. that suits kikoru.
that being said, kikoru has also made a (naive) promise that, as long as she is on the battlefield, no one will die. though she can't heal too much, her paladin's aura of protection reflects this
dragonborn is so i can give her wings and lightning breath to match her thunderous axe.
hoshina: monk, way of the kensei subclass - harengon
kensei literally means "sword saint" and is an honorary title given to legendary swordfighters.
monk offers unparalleled mobility and speed, making them almost impossible to hit. their power derives from intense focus and militant mental and physical training. it also has a sort of traditional vibe to it - a perfect fit for hoshina. also i had to let the guy run on walls
the way of the kensei also allows characters to specialise in a large range of weapons, which hoshina is more than capable of (so long as guns aren't involved). he's shown training kikoru on how to use her axe, for example.
harengons are the perfect mobility species, allowing for large jumps and a boost to dexterity saving throws.
iharu: fighter, psi warrior subclass - satyr
our first actual fighter! iharuās personality is very front-line fighter and i canāt see him really maintaining the focus and concentration for spell casting
the psi warrior subclass is built to have large spikes in power that function instantly but don't last long. their effects can change the tide of a battle but they are instantaneous and brief. this fits iharu's rare ability to unleash bursts of captain-level combat power for brief moments
i chose satyr because, while i can't see iharu casting spells, i can very much see him being resistant to them. he powers through obstacles in a very straightforward way. he's very emotionally mature (as demonstrated by his healthy response to feeling outcompeted by reno) and physically stout - just try manipulating him, either mentally or physically
also, satyrs are revelers built to be social. iharu is charismatic as hell, and a satyr's "mirthful leaps" fit his personality and abilities very well
isao: paladin, oath of the watchers subclass - orc
like father like daughter. i challenge you to find a person more on a mission than this man. his oath is dead serious and he will put it before anything, even the opportunity to be a father and part of a family.
heās also such a heavy hitter. as with kikoru, smites work perfectly for him. being able to heal himself with lay on hands also reflects some of his durability
oath of the watchers reflects this manās purpose and constant vigilance. he will protect this world from monsters and wonāt turn away from the threat for a second. he is always "on". a watchers' "aura of the sentinel" also reflects this, giving him a big bonus to initiative.
the orc species gives him occasional bursts of speed, but most importantly it gives him "relentless endurance", which further highlights his crazy durability.
narumi: wizard, school of divination subclass - human
my boy my favourite i'm sorry
i imagine a lot of people wouldāve envisioned a less squishy class for Absolute Tank Captain Narumi, but hear me out
in canon, heās a hit point tank for sure. he manually overrides his suit, pushes himself to the brink and still gets himself to stand. but if we add a fun lil fantasy twist to canon, divination wizard makes a lot of sense
narumiās a much more tactical character than he seems. unlike the other numbers weapons, his doesnāt actually significantly increase his raw offensive power- no wings, no gauntlets, etc. what it let's him do is analyse, react and get ahead of his opponent tactically. it's information-based, not damage-based. it's about smarts. it also requires an incredible amount of processing speed in the brain, and the ability to juggle masses of information without being overwhelmed
spoilers for ppl whoāve only watched the anime, but this is even truer for his green-eyed variant. while reading a body's electrical signals is already tough, it's likely that it was intuitive to kaiju no. 1, just like any other bodily sense it had. it is therefore likely inutitive to no. 1's user too. however, the green-eyed variant relies purely on a highly developed understanding of chemistry, physics and biology. there's no in-built how-to guide, because kaiju no. 1 didn't have that green-eyed ability. everything narumi can see with his eyes on green mode he has to consciously process, understand, recognise and name. watching electrons move means jack shit if you donāt know what it is youāre seeing. thatās a lot of brain power!
hence, wizard. divination is obviously in reference to his ābeing able to see the futureā
the choice to go with human is linked to narumi's backstory. lots of fantasy media likes to give non-human species loads of special abilities that humans don't have, and in contrast define humans by their tenacity and adaptability. narumi was born with nothing, grew up with nothing and had to fight his way through every step of his life with no special privileges or gifts. what's more tenacious than that?
hasegawa strikes me as too straightforward to want to mess with magic, and this straightforward reliability is what made me go for fighter. they might seem "boring" but fighters are scary for their consistency and reliability - two things i feel hasegawa embodies
battle master reflects his experience as a long standing veteran and optimises protection-focused abilities. in this world of non-martial narumi, i envision hasegawa as his bodyguard
goliath is...fairly obvious, i feel. the man is huge, and being able to grow even more for short periods of time reflects his big-ass combat suit from canon
shinonome: barbarian, path of the beast subclass - tiefling
this one is very vibes based, and heavily influenced by my own personal hcs of shinonome. i just envision her as a real toughy who you can hit over and over and she wonāt back down. the rage bonus to damage makes me think of her no-nonsense personal weapon from canon
like hasegawa and iharu, i can't really see her messing with magic too much. she would much rather deck you. barbarian gives her extra hit points, adding to her tough nature.
her subclass and species are a little more complicated, and i don't want to give too much away because i might write more about shinonome in a fic, but i've kind of pinned a lot of the complexity of femininity onto her character - what it means to be tough, to be masculinised one moment and then not be masculine enough in another.
just trust me on this one i have reasons
those are most of the characters iāve pinned down so far. i have more but this post is already too long. Iām thinking of writing a fantasy AU piece in conjunction w this but honestly i do not have the time
so like iāve said before i miss when we had more fan-selected character theme songs/playlists so i made some for the shinomiya family (incl. narumi)
isaoās and hikariās are obviously much shorter than narumi and kikoruās because they have less screen time. iām not super happy w kikoruās yet, feels incomplete, but if anyone has suggestions lmk! each playlist is supposed to match their vibe beyond just the specific lyrics of the song, for example isaoās playlist is almost entirely much older songs, bc heās an older guy
(if kikoruās is still under a different name iām sorry i canāt seem to change it)
We still need to talk about how crazy it is that Reo calls Akashi āSei-chanā its so funny I love it the Captain of the Miracle Gen joins your team and automatically becomes your captain too despite all of you being older than him and has a notable menacing aura and a king complex and ankle breaks everyone on court even though theyāre like twice his height and threatens to hurt people and gouge his own eyes out and Reo looked at All Of That and was like š„° šāØSei-chan!š„°šāØ hes such a trooper
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you know, the kaiju no. 8 b-side is great and all (i still think it should have been incorporated into the main manga, that mightāve fixed some pacing issues, boo publishing deadlines), but i feel like i donāt see that much discussion digging into why narumi hates people caring more about effort than results (maybe iāve just missed it, or maybe itās obvious to people and spelling it out in an extremely long rant is unnecessary but whatever)
like, in my mind, the very pragmatic thought process of āresults are the only things that matter, effort is inconsequentialā is a conviction that narumi hides behind rather than something he actually believes deep down - the manga, b-side and even kn8 game all include content that shows that narumi (not so) secretly works very, very hard. the b-side shoves that in your face, actually. itās also a very immature take, one that narumi developed as an actual child. like, of course effort matters. itās what allows you improve. skill alone wonāt get you far. plus, trying something difficult and pushing through it is a skill in itself.
but for narumi, itās easier - or maybe even psychologically essential - to hide behind the belief that effort means nothing, because if effort *does* mean something, then he has to acknowledge and sit with the fact that it was *his* effort specifically that meant nothing to others as a child, because *he* meant nothing to others. the families of the kids he outcompeted didnāt care whether their kid was the best, they just wanted to support and love their child. but nobody did that for narumi: nobody cared if he tried, nobody cared if he worked hard, no one even cared that he was the best - because no one cared about *him*.
that must be absolutely soul crushing to think about - iād run from that thought too if iād grown up like that. so rather than live the lonely narrative of āliterally nobody loved me enough to look at me no matter how good i wasā, he created the narrative āthe world is stupid for caring more about whether you try than if you succeedā to explain his life, and holds onto that narrative like his life depends on it.
iām not saying narumiās conviction is entirely invented/self-protecting. if you try and still canāt produce results, then you donāt belong in his division (because youāll fucking die), and i do believe he doesnāt care about someoneās manners or grace or cleanliness. but i donāt believe heās being entirely honest with himself about why he hates being seen working hardā¦it must be humiliating to try so, so hard and have no one care, and he lived like that for all his formative years.
WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT POINT ABOUT ISAO AND HOW HES NOT NECESSARILY ALL WISE AND SMART but this post is already too long so iām gonna make a separate one
āYOU SING BUT THEY USE THEIR MOUTHS TO EATā AABRIA WHAT IF I MARRIED YOU i could think about all the implications and connotations of this exact phrasing of human life and greed and fear forever
you know what i miss? fan-selected character theme songs. where did they go? iām talking the percy jackson era of viria-art youtube videos, or even longer character playlistsā¦i just donāt see them much anymore BRING THEM BACK. TELL ME WHAT MUSIC REFLECTS THIS CHARACTERāS INTERIORITY
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just finished the kaiju no.8 manga and it is deeply funny to me that the epilogue mentions that no.12 is compatible with soshiro's brother.
hoshina soshiro is probably the coolest and most competent character in the entire story, and the one of biggest chips on his shoulder is that he's never once managed to best his prodigy brother. it's like a final fuck you to him from the narrative to be like, "and the kaiju that was technically the better version of no.10 (soshiro's numbers weapon) is compatible with soichiro." šš
i know that it mentions they're not sure they'll ever make numbers weapons out of those kaiju 'cuz they're sentient, but i hope they do it for no.12 and that soichiro wields it. i hope it has two tails instead of one, like soshiro's no.10 does. soshiro would be so mad. it would be so funny.
kind of vague spoilers for the wizard the witch and the wild one (maybe)
but Iāve been re-listening to it and Suvi calling ame out on being āindiscreetā and fixing a spiritās statue instead of focussing on their task is making me go crazyā¦ok book 4 parallels, i didnāt even pick up on that during my first listen
ok so iāve been like, deep into kaiju no. 8 for a few months now. canāt shake it. and yeah itās a super fun watch and has super compelling characters but i absolutely *cannot* get over the wild lore implications and contradictions š and this isnāt a criticism bc insane worldbuilding is not what kaiju no. 8 is for but likeā¦
1. Mina has a pet kaiju. A full tiger kaiju that she cuddles in her house and helps her kill other kaiju. Already crazy. But even more crazy is that, despite this, for some reason, the idea of another kaiju (Kafka) doing the same is a completely new and unheard of thingā¦like ofc itās a risk and there would be very intense discussions about having a kaiju officer but the fact that thereās precedent for ally kaiju isnāt mentioned once!!
2. This one is a long one: the fact that japan is apparently a kaiju supernation and the rest of the world is, in comparison, fairly kaiju-safe. The implications for this are craaaaaazyā¦like how does the rest of the world handle the idea that one country essentially has super soldiers? That can level cities (mina)? And super dangerous technology? I find it hard to believe that they would just be chill about it. you just know the US would want to get its hands all over those weapons for its own reasons. Izumo Tech and companies like it basically have a global monopoly on the most powerful and dangerous resources in the world, and you can bet making them is expensive as hell. Is Izumo Tech funded by the Japanese government? But where the hell is the government getting the money from? Japan canāt have many reliable exports because their shit keeps getting destroyed by massive Kaiju all the timeā¦a country thatās essentially constantly at war and constantly rebuilding canāt have a super great economy, but the Japan we see in the anime and manga looks wealthy as hell. And they keep having the money to rebuild. In my mind, this all only makes sense one way: Izumo Tech make mad bank by selling super weapons to other countries. Kaiju fibre is their ace-in-the-hole unlimited resource. Other countries pay them crazy amounts to a) keep the Kaiju occupied and b) sell them Kaiju weapons. Which makes you wonder just how devastating war is in matsumotoās world. Maybe Iām stretching too much but seriously i cannot think of another way a country the size of Japan, constantly facing kaiju, could finance such high expenses.
3. THE JSDF, INCLUDING THE JSGDF, EXIST IN THIS UNIVERSE. THAT IS WILD. The name and existence of the real-life JSDF, or the Japan Self Defence Force, is a direct consequence of Japan losing WW2. The Americans disbanded the Japanese military and forced them to sign a treaty saying the country would never have an army again. But then Communist China started getting powerful, and Japanās not too far from the (then) USSR either. So the Americanās softened the treaty: Japan could have armed forces purely for āSelf Defenceā (though this was often interpreted loosely). This is why the Japanese army is called the āDefence Forceā. It had a different name before WW2 that it would have kept if Japan had not lost WW2. All of this strongly implies that WW2 happened in the kn8 universeā¦which means that, even while fighting Kaiju, Japan had the time and energy to fight other countries. This isnāt contradictory to canon at all but itās a crazy implication. Furthermore, the fact that military branches other than the Anti-Kaiju Defence Force exist imply that human-on-human wars still happen in the world and Japan actively trains a Force in order to combat that. The JGSDF wear camouflage fatigues in the anime, which only really makes sense to wear if youāre fighting humans. WHAT WARS IS JAPAN STILL READY FOR MATSUMOTO? ARE THEY AFRAID OTHER COUNTRIES WILL INVADE THEM TO GET THEIR HANDS ON KAIJU RESOURCES?? IS THAT A LEGITIMATE THREAT IN THE MANGA?? HOW CAN THAT NOT BE ADDRESSED??? (is this whole selling weapons of mass destruction why Haruichi seems to have difficulties with his family? maybe he canāt get behind that.)
4. Slightly different but itās insane that JAKDF captains are chosen by power alone. As far as i know, there are very few, if any, places in the world that still determine leadership by strength alone. Like (in theory) donāt you have to be tactically smart to be a military leader? Arenāt other qualities more important? Like in attack on titan, Levi is a captain bc he makes good calls. Erwin gives him specific duties because heās the strongest beast around. But heās not the scoutās commander just because heās strong that would be crazy. But Kikoruās promotion to Vice Captain of the 1st when sheās still a teenager and, though she has shown incredible strength, has little to no leadership experience implies that it really is combat strength that determines your rank. That is frankly insane.
Thereās more but i need to chill out. Points 2 and 3 arenāt plot holes/inconsistencies/senseless at all but theyāre just so crazy that I canāt stop thinking about them.
Anyway this isnāt a criticism of the manga at all, it just keeps my head spinning like a hamster wheelā¦Iām trying to write fanfiction but every time I get stuck on a crazy bit of worldbuilding and Iām like āoh my god how would that even work??ā
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