Iâve seen five different authors take down, or prepare to take down, their posted works on Ao3 this week. At the same time, Iâve seen several people wishing there was more new content to read. Iâve also seen countless posts by authors begging for people to leave comments and kudos.Â
People tell me I am a big name fan in my chosen fandom. I donât quite get that but for the purposes of this post, letâs roll with it. On my latest one shot, less than 18% of the people who read it bothered to hit the kudos button. Sure, okay, maybe that one sort of sucked. Letâs look at the one shot posted before that - less than 16% left kudos. Before that - 10%, and then 16%. Iâm not even going to get into the comments. Letâs just say the numbers drop a lot. Iâm just looking at one shots here so we donât have to worry about multiple hits from multiple chapters, people reading previous chapters over, etc. And if I am a BNF, that means other people are getting significantly less kudos and comments.
Fandom is withering away because it feels like people donât care about the works that are posted. Why should I go to the trouble of posting my stories if no one reads them, and of the people who do read them, less than a fifth like them? Even if you are not a huge fan of the story, if it kept your attention long enough for you to get to the bottom, go ahead and mash that kudos button. Itâs a drop of encouragement in a big desert.Â
TL;DR: Passively devouring content is killing fandom.
Reblogging again
So much this
You know, kudos and comments are much beloved by all esp. yrs truly, but I have to say: Iâve been posting fic for 20 years, and I have never in my entire life had a story stay above a 1:9 kudos to hits ratio (or comments to hits, back when kudo wasnât an option). Usually they donât stay above 1:10, once theyâve been around for a few weeks.
I also have a working background in online marketing. In social media 1:10 is what you would call a solid engagement score, when people actually care about your product (as opposed to âlikingâ your Facebook page so they could join a contest or whatever). If BNFs are getting 1:5 - and I do sometimes see it - that is sky-high engagement. Take any celebrity; take Harry Styles, who has just under 30M followers and doesnât tweet all that often. He regularly gets 3-400K likes, 1-200K retweets. Iâve seen him get up to just under 1M likes on a tweet. Thatâs a 1:30 engagement ratio, for Harry Styles, and though some of you guys enjoy my fics and have said so, I donât think you have as lasting a relationship with my stories as Harry Stylesâs fans do with him. XD;
Again, this is not to say we, as readers, should all go home and not bother to kudo or comment or engage with fic writers. That definitely is a recipe for discouraging what you want to see in future. But this is not the first post Iâve seen that suggests a 20% kudo ratio is the equivalent of yelling into the void, and Iâm worried that we as writers are discouraging ourselves because our expectations are out of whack.
I think about this a lot, because itâs important to know what a realistic goal to expect from an audience is, even though I admit it definitely is kind of depressing when you look at the numbers. I was doing reading on what sort of money you can expect to make from a successful webcomic, and the general rule of thumb seems to be that if your merchandising is meshing well with your audience, about 1% will give you merch. I imagine âsubscribe to patreonâ also falls in this general range.Â
Stuff that is ONLY available for dollars are obviously going to have a different way of measuring this, but when it comes to âIf people can consume something without engaging back in any fashion (hitting a like button, buying something, leaving a comment)â the vast majority will.
And as a creator that is frustrating but as a consumer itâs pretty easy to see how it happens. I have gotten steadily worse at even liking posts, much less leaving comments on ones I enjoy, since I started using tumblr. Itâs very difficult to engage consistently. I always kudo on any fanfic I read and comment on the vast majority, but then again I donât read a lot of fanfic, if you are someone who browses AO3 constantly/regularly for months or years, I could see how itâs easy to stop engaging. I donât remember to like every YT video or tumblr fanart I see, much less comment on them.
When we are constantly consuming free content itâs hard to remember to engage with it or what that engagement means to the creators. And lol, honestly that sucks. Certainly as consumers we should be better about it. But also like, as a creator be kinder to yourself by setting a realistic bar of what you can achieve.Â
And IMO, if numbers matter to you (kudos, comments, etc) be honest about the fact that you CAN improve those things by marketing yourself better. The âI just produced my art and put it out there and got insanely popular because it was just so brilliantâ is less than a one a million chance. Lots of amazing content is overlooked every day because there is a lot of good content and a metric fuckton of mediocre to bad content. You can only SORT of judge the quality of your work based on the audience it generates, but if what you WANT is an audience there is way, way, WAY more you can be doing than simply producing whatever you immediately feel like. Marketing yourself is a skill and if you want the benefits of it you have to practice it.
I have a professional background in internet marketing as my day job and a moderate hobby business. My definition for âmoderateâ is âit pays for itself, keeps me in product, and occasionally buys groceries.â In the day job, which is for an extremely large global company, there are entire teams of people whose entire purpose of employment is to ensure a 3% conversion rate. Thatâs it. That is for a Fortune 100 company: the success metric is for 3% of all visitors to a marketing web site to click the âsend me more infoâ link. My moderate business that pays for itself has a 0.94% conversion rate of views to orders. Less than 1%, and itâs still worth its time â and this is without me bothering to do any marketing beyond instagram and tumblr posts with new product. I know it feels like no one is paying attention to you and youâre wasting your time if you donât get everyone clicking kudos or commenting but I promise, I PROMISE, you are doing fantastically, amazingly well with your 10% rate. You probably arenât going to go viral AND THATâS FINE. Youâre only hurting yourself if youâre expecting a greater return â donât call yourself a failure, because youâre NOT. Youâre just looking at it the wrong way. I promise, youâre lovely just the way you are.
Reblogging this bc it is a take on fan engagement at AO3 that I havenât seen before, and as a writer I find it helpful to have this reality check. Also I wonder which came first: the overall low engagement rates in internet commerce, or the freaking shit-ton of unwanted spam and advertising weâre constantly bombarded with?
I think as writers our assumption (my assumption anyway) is that the portion of hits that donât convert to kudos equals the portion of readers who looked at your fic, didnât like it, and never finished it. But it would seem that is an overly pessimistic assumption.Â
I should know this, because IÂ âlikeâ very sparingly here and reblog only less sparingly, and yet I read and enjoy a lot of posts I donât like or reblog.Â
#also something that is really obvious that none of this points out#(probably someone did somewhere in the notes but I do have a life)#your hit count will go up by virtue of PEOPLE REREADING YOUR FIC#a hit count disproportionate to kudos/comments#which are things that are only really done once #is INEVITABLE#and a GOOD thing #people rereading your fic is a good thing



















