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In the past I've shared other people's musings about the different interpretations of the myth of Orpheus and Eurydice. Namely, why Orpheus looks back at Eurydice, even though he knows it means he'll lose her forever. So many people seem to think they've found the one true explanation of the myth. But to me, the beauty of myths is that they have many possible meanings.
So I thought I would share a list of every interpretation I know, from every serious adaptation of the story and every analysis I've ever heard or read, of why Orpheus looks back.
One interpretation – advocated by Monteverdi's opera, for example – is that the backward glance represents excessive passion and a fatal lack of self-control. Orpheus loves Eurydice to such excess that he tries to defy the laws of nature by bringing her back from the dead, yet that very same passion dooms his quest fo fail, because he can't resist the temptation to look back at her.
He can also be seen as succumbing to that classic "tragic flaw" of hubris, excessive pride. Because his music and his love conquer the Underworld, it might be that he makes the mistake of thinking he's entirely above divine law, and fatally allows himself to break the one rule that Hades and Persephone set for him.
Then there are the versions where his flaw is his lack of faith, because he looks back out of doubt that Eurydice is really there. I think there are three possible interpretations of this scenario, which can each work alone or else co-exist with each other. From what I've read about Hadestown, it sounds as if it combines all three.
In one interpretation, he doubts Hades and Persephone's promise. Will they really give Eurydice back to him, or is it all a cruel trick? In this case, the message seems to be a warning to trust in the gods; if you doubt their blessings, you might lose them.
Another perspective is that he doubts Eurydice. Does she love him enough to follow him? In this case, the warning is that romantic love can't survive unless the lovers trust each other. I'm thinking of Moulin Rouge!, which is ostensibly based on the Orpheus myth, and which uses Christian's jealousy as its equivalent of Orpheus's fatal doubt and explicitly states "Where there is no trust, there is no love."
The third variation is that he doubts himself. Could his music really have the power to sway the Underworld? The message in this version would be that self-doubt can sabotage all our best efforts.
But all of the above interpretations revolve around the concept that Orpheus looks back because of a tragic flaw, which wasn't necessarily the view of Virgil, the earliest known recorder of the myth. Virgil wrote that Orpheus's backward glance was "A pardonable offense, if the spirits knew how to pardon."
In some versions, when the upper world comes into Orpheus's view, he thinks his journey is over. In this moment, he's so ecstatic and so eager to finally see Eurydice that he unthinkingly turns around an instant too soon, either just before he reaches the threshold or when he's already crossed it but Eurydice is still a few steps behind him. In this scenario, it isn't a personal flaw that makes him look back, but just a moment of passion-fueled carelessness, and the fact that it costs him Eurydice shows the pitilessness of the Underworld.
In other versions, concern for Eurydice makes him look back. Sometimes he looks back because the upward path is steep and rocky, and Eurydice is still limping from her snakebite, so he knows she must be struggling, in some versions he even hears her stumble, and he finally can't resist turning around to help her. Or more cruelly, in other versions – for example, in Gluck's opera – Eurydice doesn't know that Orpheus is forbidden to look back at her, and Orpheus is also forbidden to tell her. So she's distraught that her husband seems to be coldly ignoring her and begs him to look at her until he can't bear her anguish anymore.
These versions highlight the harshness of the Underworld's law, and Orpheus's failure to comply with it seems natural and even inevitable. The message here seems to be that death is pitiless and irreversible: a demigod hero might come close to conquering it, but through little or no fault of his own, he's bound to fail in the end.
Another interpretation I've read is that Orpheus's backward glance represents the nature of grief. We can't help but look back on our memories of our dead loved ones, even though it means feeling the pain of loss all over again.
Then there's the interpretation that Orpheus chooses his memory of Eurydice, represented by the backward glance, rather than a future with a living Eurydice. "The poet's choice," as Portrait of a Lady on Fire puts it. In this reading, Orpheus looks back because he realizes he would rather preserve his memory of their youthful, blissful love, just as it was when she died, than face a future of growing older, the difficulties of married life, and the possibility that their love will fade. That's the slightly more sympathetic version. In the version that makes Orpheus more egotistical, he prefers the idealized memory to the real woman because the memory is entirely his possession, in a way that a living wife with her own will could never be, and will never distract him from his music, but can only inspire it.
Then there are the modern feminist interpretations, also alluded to in Portrait of a Lady on Fire but seen in several female-authored adaptations of the myth too, where Eurydice provokes Orpheus into looking back because she wants to stay in the Underworld. The viewpoint kinder to Orpheus is that Eurydice also wants to preserve their love just as it was, youthful, passionate, and blissful, rather than subject it to the ravages of time and the hardships of life. The variation less sympathetic to Orpheus is that Euyridice was at peace in death, in some versions she drank from the river Lethe and doesn't even remember Orpheus, his attempt to take her back is selfish, and she prefers to be her own free woman than be bound to him forever and literally only live for his sake.
With that interpretation in mind, I'm surprised I've never read yet another variation. I can imagine a version where, as Orpheus walks up the path toward the living world, he realizes he's being selfish: Eurydice was happy and at peace in the Elysian Fields, she doesn't even remember him because she drank from Lethe, and she's only following him now because Hades and Persephone have forced her to do so. So he finally looks back out of selfless love, to let her go. Maybe I should write this retelling myself.
Are any of these interpretations – or any others – the "true" or "definitive" reason why Orpheus looks back? I don't think so at all. The fact that they all exist and can all ring true says something valuable about the nature of mythology.
if you don't like the sad ending of Hadestown, you should watch Orfeo ed Euridice by Gluck. orpheus loses her as usual, threatens to kill himself, and immediately gets her given back by the god of love. great message 10/10
Floriane Hasler and Mariamielle Lamagat in an adaptation of Gluck’s Orphée et et Eurydice by Othman Louati and Thomas Bouvet. (Photo: Martin Noda / Clémence Demesme)
had to listen to a bit of "orfeo ed euridice" (gluck) for music history class
and the opening is orpheus screaming eurydices name in agony
and that made me Feel Things and I need it to be out of my brain and for it to be someone else's problem bc there is no time in my schedule for mourning thousand-year-old mythical lovers, thank you very much

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I think what drives me crazy more than anything else is “maybe it’ll turn out this time” because unlike what Hadestown would have you believe we’ve actually been trying to “fix” the ending of Orpheus and Eurydice for as long as that myth has been told.. we have been trying to puzzle out a way in which they get their happy ending.. Gluck gave them a happy ending in 1762 because how could you listen to Orpheus’s lament and not let him take her home with him!!! The game Hades has them end happily together again!!! Even in the original myth they are reunited in death!!! Who could listen to their tragedy and not try and make a better world for them!!!!!!
ORPHEUS IN SEARCH
letter from Isabella of Parma to Archduchess Maria Christina. October 6, 1762. (translated by me, excerpt taken from the essay Women in Love: Gluck's Orpheus as a Source of Romantic Consolation in Vienna, Paris, and Stockholm.)
Orpheus in a Wood, Henri Martin.
eurydice, Sarah Ruhl.
Portrait of a Lady on Fire, dir. Céline Sciamma.
"Wait For Me [intro]", Hadestown.
Portrait of a Lady on Fire, dir. Céline Sciamma.
"Doubt Comes In", Hadestown
Orfeo ed Euridice, Christoph Gluck
"Wait For Me", Hadestown.
Portrait of a Lady on Fire, dir. Céline Sciamma.
"It's Never Over (Hey Orpheus)", Arcade Fire.
I think we need an Orpheus and Eurydice play in which every night the ending is a different version of the myth and you never know what you'll end up watching this night. Will she stumble? Will he be unable to hear her? Will he get out of the Underworld and then turn back with a smile that turns horrified as he realizes she wasn't out? We know he turns back but maybe not this time.
And maybe sometimes we need them to get out—maybe once in ten years. But you need to get into the theatre thinking "maybe this time" because that's the kind of story that lends itself to hope.
I think a few people came to this conclusion as well, but I realized after getting to watch Hadestown proshot, that the villain of the musical isn't Hades. It's the Fates. Eurydice dies because they take her things. They try to discourage Orpheus twice, succeeding the second time. They convince Hades that no matter what he chooses, he'll be either seen as weak or a monster. Your own fate is often scarier than any beast or king.
Not just them but Persephone too. She’s visibly scared of the Fates when they surround and taunt her about having to go back to Hadestown again at the end of summer. They’re stronger than both the other gods and men
the thing about orpheus is that he doesn't turn because he loves eurydice. he turns because paradoxically he is afraid to lose her. hes turned many times and found people have disappeared when he wasn't looking (his mother, persephone in act 1, eurydice in act 1). he loves eurydice, but by act 2 he's seen the way the world is. he has to turn. one last look is better than never seeing her again. hadestown isn't about death, its about self destruction and how grief paints your actions in the present.
orpheus turns around because
doubt comes in

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some people love to consume media full of rape allegories and then say "huh? rape allegories? there's no rape in this! you're disgusting."
and if i said hadestown. i mean fucks sake its barely allegorical its near textual “a lot can happen behind closed doors” “and hades laid his hands on ya” “i trembled when he laid me out” “men are kind, until they aren’t” “the girl means nothing to me” GUYS ARE WE SO SERIOUS. ITS SO CLEAR. ITS SO FUCKING CLEAR. SHE HAS A COSTUME CHANGE. SHE COMES OUT OF HIS OFFICE WEARING DIFFERENT CLOTHES. IN MANY PRODUCTIONS HE LOOSENS HIS TIE BEFORE ENTERING HIS OFFICE. GUYS.
I see a lot of people online saying that Orpheus (Hadestown specifically) looks back because he loves Eurydice so much, that there isn't a world in which he doesn't look back, because the kind of man who wouldn't look back is not the kind of man who would go after her in the first place, etc. It's inevitable because of the strength of his love. But I don't see that as being the whole picture. Textually, it is explicitly his doubt in himself, and in the narrative of his life, that makes him look back: "Doubt Comes In", and he wonders, who is he that Hades would let him win? Who is he that Eurydice would follow him through the dark? Orpheus used to have a very simple, naive view of the world and his place in it. He was single-minded. At the beginning he tells Eurydice he's the man who is going to marry her because...well, that's how the story should go, and he is a poet first and foremost. Then, when he meets Hades, he is confronted by what Eurydice did and what the world is really like. He is shattered by the realisation that Eurydice wasn't just a simple, "pure" victim, but that she signed her life away. He is beaten down and loses faith, he goes into "Is this how it is?" after he's literally already done the impossible by reaching Hadestown on foot. He should have proven his abilities to himself by this point, but things aren't going the way they are supposed to and he doesn't know who he is anymore. He isn't just a boy in love with a girl who sings a song to bring back spring: he's a boy who didn't look back when he should have the first time when she called his name; she's a girl who chose her immediate needs over his grand ideals. His faith in a world where they make it back together is broken. He looks back because he doesn't trust himself or the narrative that he's found himself in. It's even more heartbreaking to me, because the Orpheus he was at the beginning of the musical might not have looked back, but that version of Orpheus doesn't make it out of the Underworld.
And to top it all off, the version of Eurydice from the beginning of the musical, before love softened her hard edges and made her trust him, probably wouldn't have followed Orpheus out of Hadestown. Eurydice really does trust him to get her out, because she's looking for the Orpheus she used to know and she's seen the power of his song and worldview.
Am I rambling into the void or does this make sense to anyone else?
Eurydice knows Orpheus as the confident, leading man who will take on any storm without a second thought. But Orpheus can't be that man since he lost her. His confidence failed him, and now doubt comes in. Eurydice doesn't fully realize this, Orpheus is still her light. The moment she realizes is the moment he turns around.
Everyone loves a cycle aware Orpheus but what about a cycle aware Eurydice? Eurydice who tries her hardest to resist the hunger and the cold. Tries to convince Orpheus to just LOOK UP time and time again to no avail. Eurydice who KNOWS and still fails. She knows he’s gonna turn around. She knows they’re not gonna make it out of hell together. But she hopes. Every time she hopes that he loves her a little bit less than the last time. Hopes he won’t look back. But of course, Orpheus is still Orpheus. And he loves her more than anything.
yeah and i will never ever be over it ever
In a local production of hadestown that i saw, when it came time for orpheus to sing epic III, the fates didnt give him his guitar back. You see, up on the platform by hades' office door, a shiny black guitar has been mounted on the wall throughout the whole play. It is this guitar that orpheus is given to play epic III on: hades' guitar. He once sang a song of love like orpheus, you know.
people really do forget that Hades was a musician or at the very least a singer once and it makes me sad because that's my favorite part. it shows that you can be an Orpheus, beaten down the way he is, and end up as a Hades. people who are like Hades aren't just born that way, they are created by the very corruption they later fuel.

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imagine going to your first rehearsal for a musical and the first words your characters say to each other are “come home with me” “who are you” “the man who’s gonna marry you” and your first duet is a song about a wedding and you get to fall in love doing a show about The Tragic Greek Lovers Ever and then years later you get married to each other and you become the version of the lovers who get a happy ending and get to go home together and you get to do the show again together and now the characters have a different meaning
I think my favourite part of the hadestown proshoot is when Eurydice says, "Is he always like this?" and Hermes, who has seen this story a thousand thousand times, who has tried again and again to warn Orpheus not to come on too strong, says with Extreme Exhaustion in his voice, "Yes."