OP says here that Mike Wheeler likely became a historian, because historians describe gay couples as “best friends, “great friends”, etc. and that’s how he describes his relationship with Will. It makes sense to me.
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OP says here that Mike Wheeler likely became a historian, because historians describe gay couples as “best friends, “great friends”, etc. and that’s how he describes his relationship with Will. It makes sense to me.

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These technical nominations for a final season of a blockbuster show are the equivalent of a 4-minute standing ovation at Cannes. They’re a courtesy, but you know the season sucked and everyone hated it.
Two (2) people from the cast deserved acting nominations: Noah Schnapp and Jamie Campbell-Bower, but it’s obvious the Emmys weren’t gonna nominate any cast member for a show with such atrocious writing.
Foah forever, I don’t like the idea of Noah dating Arthur LeClerc. But please
Please
Do not censor the name “Noarthur”
That’s it, nothing else changes
Fandoms have a serious problem with how creators are being treated these days.
Fandom creators spend hours of their free time to create something to make fandom thrive...for free and for the love of the game.
And what do they get? A wholeass heap of fuck all. No reblogs, no comments, no nothing. And people are surprised that creators are dropping out left, right, and centre??
"Why is there no long fic anymore?" "Why did my favourite writer stop?" "Why is my favourite artist not posting anymore?"
I implore you to ask yourself: "What's the last thing I did to support my fandom? Does my favourite creator know they are my favourite? When was the last time I left a comment under something?"

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It’s still funny to me that there is no reality in which the void scene actually happened. Because either Kali was alive and showed Mike a vision or Mike straight up hallucinated it bc in both scenarios El was not capable of using her powers. Like imagine fumbling so bad that your last “romantic” moment between two characters wasn’t even an actual possibility
It goes beyond her just being unable to use her powers. The kryptonite completely debilitated her. All she could do is crouch down in pain, unable to take any action whatsoever without help.
So, yeah, being able to crawl to either the gate or the tunnels should have been completely out of the question, let alone getting far enough away to recover in the time allotted.
And don't even get me started on how Kali, having been shot in the stomach, would have been able to cast an illusion to begin with (assuming she was somehow still alive), let alone know when and where to do it.
The only thing dumber than the ending we saw was the ending Mike came up with, especially since all El wanted was for Mike to understand her decision and to help the others understand it. Instead, he convinces them that it didn't happen, that she's still out there somewhere.
The Duffers lost the plot to their own story.
Yeah. This is Mike consumed by guilt and making up scenarios to cope with it.
I don’t believe neither in conformitygate nor in lovewinsgate per se, but if I were Netflix/the Duffers and I were smart, I would understand that the fans are doing me a favour, take the out that they’re giving me and run with it.
Happy pride month to my dad. When I came out as bi to him, this man googled what it ment, look at me and said "ohh. Yeah. You get that from me. You'd have far more siblings of I only shaged women." And went right back to his work emails.
ChatGPT wrote “Not friends - best friends” and the Duffer bros just changed it up a little, didn’t they?
THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY MADE MY FUCKING DAY
BRO WHY DOES HE LOOK LIKE HES ABOUT TO BURST INTO TEARS 😭😭😭
Here, have the whole comic.

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we neeedddd to bring back ship and let ship and don't like don't interact. the normalization of shitting on something in fandom just because YOU PERSONALLY don't like it has genuinely gotta stop. I'm guilty of it, I've hated on ships before— granted, it's a rare occurrence. but like, seriously. fandom is supposed to be fun. there is no rightest way to do it. the extreme moralization of everything is so exhausting. it's fiction. we are talking fiction. oftentimes, fanmade fiction. don't like? don't interact.
They piss me off so badly because what even is this
If it's the Duffers' goal to drive me crazy, they're too late. I work with children.
Something I don't think we talk enough about in discussions surrounding AI is the loss of perseverance.
I have a friend who works in education and he told me about how he was working with a small group of HS students to develop a new school sports chant. This was a very daunting task for the group, in large part because many had learning disabilities related to reading and writing, so coming up with a catchy, hard-hitting, probably rhyming, poetry-esque piece of collaborative writing felt like something outside of their skill range. But it wasn't! I knew that, he knew that, and he worked damn hard to convince the kids of that too. Even if the end result was terrible (by someone else's standards), we knew they had it in them to complete the piece and feel super proud of their creation.
Fast-forward a few days and he reports back that yes they have a chant now... but it's 99% AI. It was made by Chat-GPT. Once the kids realized they could just ask the bot to do the hard thing for them - and do it "better" than they (supposedly) ever could - that's the only route they were willing to take. It was either use Chat-GPT or don't do it at all. And I was just so devastated to hear this because Jesus Christ, struggling is important. Of course most 14-18 year olds aren't going to see the merit of that, let alone understand why that process (attempting something new and challenging) is more valuable than the end result (a "good" chant), but as adults we all have a responsibility to coach them through that messy process. Except that's become damn near impossible with an Instantly Do The Thing app in everyone's pocket. Yes, AI is fucking awful because of plagiarism and misinformation and the environmental impact, but it's also keeping people - particularly young people - from developing perseverance. It's not just important that you learn to write your own stuff because of intellectual agency, but because writing is hard and it's crucial that you learn how to persevere through doing hard things.
Write a shitty poem. Write an essay where half the textual 'evidence' doesn't track. Write an awkward as fuck email with an equally embarrassing typo. Every time you do you're not just developing that particular skill, you're also learning that you did something badly and the world didn't end. You can get through things! You can get through challenging things! Not everything in life has to be perfect but you know what? You'll only improve at the challenging stuff if you do a whole lot of it badly first. The ability to say, "I didn't think I could do that but I did it anyway. It's not great, but I did it," is SO IMPORTANT for developing confidence across the board, not just in these specific tasks.
Idk I'm just really worried about kids having to grow up in a world where (for a variety of reasons beyond just AI) they're not given the chance to struggle through new and challenging things like we used to.
The Duffer Brothers clearly “wrote” the whole of season 5 using AI and they were given a budget of Four Hundred Million United States Dollars, what can we demand from those who “write” fanfic for free?
https://www.tumblr.com/castlebyersafterdark/820537667949314048/people-want-to-live-in-a-world-where-everyone
I honestly rather stick with the part of the fandom that’s just choosing to pretend Byler did happen cause they’re living their best life currently over there creating beautiful art and fanfics like a typical queer shipping fandom does and is supposed to do cause the ones who are currently still in a state of misery over the disappointment of the finale(we all were pretty disappointed but jeez) are really hard to be around right now cause it’s just non stop complaining and it’s getting to the point they’re starting to spew harmful rhetoric that simply isn’t true because their eyes are only seeing red like some of your anger is justifiable but chill out it’s not the end of the world just because one freaking tv show disappointed you.
Exhibit A: Will Byers gay bar discourse.
Agreeeeeee. I fall in the part of the fandom where I acknowledge the show as it aired and what happened and what didn't - and I use that as inspiration for how I engage with fanworks now. I acknowledge what the creators/writers/actors gave us and I interpret it several ways, depending on what I'm interested in!!! I think that's totally fine and where I want to be viewed as a fan right now. Based in reality while deep in fanon.
In my opinion, the ending was ambiguous because the stopping point let the door open to play. So that's what I'm doing. I can enjoy exploring a series of "what ifs" regarding Mike's queer journey, at different points: in Hawkins, after, whatever. I can enjoy exploring Byler getting together in high school, or post grad, or in college, or years down the road. I can also enjoy Will's separate journey, with or without Mike. Because I have space in my brain to hold multiple interests and opinions!!! It's all fake and fictional and one idea doesn't take away from other ideas! I don't need canon and technically don't pretend Byler is canon - to me it's enough to engage with fandom/fanon and go wild with it. Like many fandoms before it. Disappointment aside, I don't thrive there. I defy disappointment and do what I want anyway.
The discourse is tired and stale. I'm trying to be 🪷🌸🌺🌻🌼🪻

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Does anyone else remember an official account (strangerwriters, maybe?) saying that the Party's outfits at the Snow Ball were hints to their future careers?
This suggests the writers discussed who they would grow up to be. But why even bring that up if it never makes it to the screen? We never see them as adults with jobs. There weren't even "where are they now?" style title cards during the epilogue sequences saying what each character did in the future.
A little thing, I know, but it's frustrating. I wanted to see who they grew up to be and then go back to their outfits to see how they matched up.
I know!!!
To me it’s obvious that Mike becomes a writer and Will becomes an artist, but what do Lucas, Dustin and Max become? According to their outfits, does Dustin become a wedding singer?
I do have headcanons for them so I don’t hate the guessing per se (although I’m extremely against the idea of Max Mayfield becoming a goddamn therapist or social worker of all things), but it’s just one more proof of how much the Duffer brothers just didn’t bother putting any effort into season 5 at all.
Lowkey the character who got the saddest ending is Karen Wheeler.
1. Even Jonathan and Nancy gave looks to each other during the older kids’ reunion.
2. Even Mike and Will looked like they’re in love and there’s a door open for them to get together at some point.
3. Even EL, who died, was given the slightest amount of cope that she might be alive and having a happy life somewhere.
But poor Karen started out as a housewife trapped in a loveless marriage and, after everything she went through, ended the show the exact same way, with no reprieve in sight. She doesn’t get to experience love, freedom, economic independence or anything. She just gets to accept her lot in life and wither in the same house as Ted.