maturing is realising annabeth chase judo flipping percy jackson in heroes of olympus would be considered abusive if their genders were flipped.
also she flips him ONTO HIS BACK. WHERE HIS CURSE OF ACHILLES WEAK SPOT WAS. that she KNEW ABOUT. she did not know he'd lost the curse. man. i'm mad about this again lol.
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i have a theory about pjo tv. Look up 'second screening' or 'second screen viewing'. netflix is the only large company i think that has been confirmed to be working with this mindset that they must dumb everything down because people are going to be on their phones, but pjo tv just feels so incredibly spoonfed that i would not be surprised if they're using it to defang any true interesting part of the show.
there's a lot more to it of course, i've gotten into actually comparing the show to the books and i think very few of the characters are actually similar to their book counterparts, which is wild because rick said this would be a faithful adaptation, but whatever...
oh no yeah aboslutely
i just finished st5 and i'm not like in the fandom - i was just "forced" to watch it with my family bc my brother likes the show and blah blah blah whatever but like. i really noticed it with s5 that they treat the audience like they're stupid. it probably happened in previous seasons too but that was so long ago that i don't remember. but like they flashed to hopper's dead daughter a million times like. yeah bro. we get it. leave the subtlety in his expression and body language. have him reach for the bracelet from his daughter that he gave to el only to have his fingers meet air. why am i seeing this dead kid's face every three frames. I GOT IT omllll
and honestly the show does it too but almost worse bc they have the characters say it all out loud to explain it to you. like. bro. leave it between the lines. the real fans will find it and praise you for it.
like i've said, the books did such a good job of it. they left things between the lines for the audience to find and talk about. the books were for kids but it didn't treat it's audience like babies, it treated it's audience like just young humans capable of higher thought. percy didn't hide the more gruesome or dark parts of his world. like bianca's death? i remember being sick to my stomach reading that. silena's death?? even gabe's abuse, a dark part of his mortal life. he didn't hide that away or water it down like they did in the show. additionally, his childhood in poverty!! as someone with a similar upbringing, it hit hard and it was so disappointing to see that stripped away from him. like he literally felt so ostracized from his peers bc they "vacationed in the hamptons" while he had to get summer jobs!!
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like??? "difficult to watch" yeah i'd imagine so, it was probably difficult to live too which is. the point. "not meant to be a horror show" you're going to depict war and child death - GRUESOME child death. raising a hand and flinching will not terrify the children i promise you. they're going to be looking at silena's melting body while she's still alive to speak. like?? what???? šš instead of having gabe raise a hand to sally - not even hitting her, just hinting at it - you have zeus trying to strike percy down instead....when he was meant to be kind toward percy and show a modicum of softness when he succeeded in his quest...that softness which cushioned percy's decision to back the gods over kronos.....i'm just?????????????????? pjo literally IS a horror story in a way. its children fighting each other over the abuse they've suffered under the gods. it ISSSSS a horror story???????
like the books do not treat kids like drooling babies, the show does. the books adds the nuance and shades of grey, the show does not. hell, the conflict i've seen and heard between the characters is resolved in like two minutes. they're so afraid of making their characters complex and having them make mistakes and being mean or rude that it just feels so static and boring. there's no tension and no actual depth to anyone. and if a character gets depth, it tends to be the male characters at the expense of the female characters' depth. still mad that percy knew everything and had to teach annabeth how to Be Normal And Happy Like A Regular Kid. and from what i've heard about how they're writing circe...........jesus christ
i guarantee you they're gonna have bianca sit nico down and explain to her why she wants to join the hunters before she ever does and he'll be all "if that'll make you happy then it'll make me happy :)" š„± clarisse in tlo sitting down at the war table going "i just feel like no one respects the ares cabin :( we're just meant to be fighters to you guys instead of people :(" and everyone goes "thanks you for telling us that. we're sorry we made you feel like that :( you don't have to fight if you don't want to <3 take some time for yourself, you deserve it :)" LMFAO
literally that's my biggest issue with the show and why i can't watch it bc like none of the characters are written properly to be similar enough to their book selves. like sally is my biggest gripe icl but also annabeth and percy - although i did like what they did with grover & ares even if we were robbed of the cool waterpark scene - and THE GODS. the gods lack any power or divinity. like hades was supposed to be the first god percy's meets that actually strikes him as godlike. ten feet tall with an aura of power that made percy instinctively lower his head and want to kneel before him. poseidon and zeus were supposed to be that on olympus too. it could've really set the big three apart from the rest of the gods, but they just depicted the gods as regular degular guys with powers. zeus just has a little toy that shoots lightning. he isn't the god of the skies and king of the gods. ugh.
OML ESPECIALLY LUKE!!!! like i'm not a luke fan or a luke girly by any means but like luke in the books wasn't written as a misunderstood hero!! he was angry and bitter and wanted to get back at his dad!!! that was his whole motivation for fighting and siding with kronos!!! ethan and alabaster were grey heroes fighting for a just cause but backing the wrong horse!!!!!!!!!!! i hate how they sanded luke down to make him palatable instead of genuinely angry and bitter fighting to hurt his dad back!!!! give him his daddy issues and rage back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm a luke observer in the way that i know he was NOT fighting for demigods and it annoys me when luke glazers claim that bc ethan and alabaster were fighting for that š luke was fighting for selfish reasons!! let him be selfish!!! they all understand the system under the gods is rotten and abusive, luke just fell into the cycle and began to perpetrate it while e&a were fighting for the minor gods and their children, percy was fighting to protect his friends and family and civilization from kronos's destruction - none of them were really fighting for the gods bc they're good, but just the lesser of two evils.
UGHHHHH the book had such good nuance and that's why the fandom is always so split up among the shades of grey and who they back and defend. the show is just taking that alllllll away to make it easier to swallow and comprehend but its just so dumb ššš to appeal to a wider audience, they've stripped the soul and heart and meaning of the story away completely. like why do you think the story has survived for 20+ years?? people are STILL talking about it and analyzing it every day!! the show fandom disappears within like. a month after a season drops bc there's NOTHING to talk about other than their fanservice percabeth š¤
i haven't even seen much regarding their neurodivergence...........the entire point of the story??? rr literally wrote percy jackson for his son to see himself in a hero where his "disabilities and boundaries" are things that aid him and make him stronger. THE FUCKING MUSICAL GOT THAT???? sally and percy's song "strong" where percy feels down on his adhd & dyslexia and sally assures him that it makes him stronger. the show almost had it with that "i'm not a god. there is something wrong with my brain" scene in montauk but they seemed to just immediately forget it. and i haven't seen anything regarding annabeth's dyslexia or adhd - aka part of the reason why they visited the gateway arch and got sucked into the lotus hotel and casino????
it could've been SO easy to have annabeth want to visit the gateway arch bc its a temple to her mother but also she wants to see the architecture. but no they took that opportunity to villainize athena further when it was ZEUS who sent echidna after PERCY and echidna chose to take the chimera to terrorize him. but no yeah lets make a villain of athena while portraying poseidon as a Good Dad. š starting to notice a trend . . . and considering how he wrote cabin 10. i am Not Surprised.
Fans back when the movies came out: *bullied Alex Daddario so much to the point that she was forced to dye her hair blonde*
Fans now: "OMG, You're such a racist book purist for wanting a blonde Annabeth. You're such a Nazi for wanting a book accurate adaptation as it was PROMISED BY RICK RIORDAN HIMSELF!!"
I totally agree with you, people have a right to want actors to look like the characters they play, as long as it doesn't rise to the level of bullying the actor.
The people who threatened and sent racist messages to Leia are disgusting, but so are the people who sent threats to people who wanted Annabeth to be blonde and were polite about it.
I also find it terrible that there are people who compare the Nazis to people who simply want a fictional character to look the way they were originally written.
This is not only insulting and hurtful, it is a complete disrespect for the victims of the Nazis.
Fans back when the movies came out: *bullied Alex Daddario so much to the point that she was forced to dye her hair blonde*
Fans now: "OMG, You're such a racist book purist for wanting a blonde Annabeth. You're such a Nazi for wanting a book accurate adaptation as it was PROMISED BY RICK RIORDAN HIMSELF!!"
I totally agree with you, people have a right to want actors to look like the characters they play, as long as it doesn't rise to the level of bullying the actor.
The people who threatened and sent racist messages to Leia are disgusting, but so are the people who sent threats to people who wanted Annabeth to be blonde and were polite about it.
I also find it terrible that there are people who compare the Nazis to people who simply want a fictional character to look the way they were originally written.
This is not only insulting and hurtful, it is a complete disrespect for the victims of the Nazis.
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Fans back when the movies came out: *bullied Alex Daddario so much to the point that she was forced to dye her hair blonde*
Fans now: "OMG, You're such a racist book purist for wanting a blonde Annabeth. You're such a Nazi for wanting a book accurate adaptation as it was PROMISED BY RICK RIORDAN HIMSELF!!"
I totally agree with you, people have a right to want actors to look like the characters they play, as long as it doesn't rise to the level of bullying the actor.
The people who threatened and sent racist messages to Leia are disgusting, but so are the people who sent threats to people who wanted Annabeth to be blonde and were polite about it.
I also find it terrible that there are people who compare the Nazis to people who simply want a fictional character to look the way they were originally written.
This is not only insulting and hurtful, it is a complete disrespect for the victims of the Nazis.
thinking of percy going to school as a small child. learning that some of his peers talk to deceased family members in their heads to cope with grief. and deciding to take the time each night to talk to his father. telling him a funny story of how mom laughed so hard, milk came out of her nose. of how he got a near perfect score on his third grade spelling test. of each time he got expelled from school and how much he knew it made mom sad. of how his stepfather is the meanest bully he's ever met. of how he wished the two of them had more time together so they could share s'mores and stories around the campfire. of how much he grieves the father he never had. and thinking of poseidon sitting in his throne atop olympus. tears threatening to fall at the sound of his son's voice. mirroring the grief of a child he never got to raise.
Show!Luke going āoh we donāt call them that hereā in reference to the monsters in the Titan army and then the closed captions immediately proceeding to label the army as ādemigods and monstersā itās,,, I canāt quite put my finger on what it is,,,
Yeah my previous message was mostly about how hypocritical show and rr fans are, hate the movie for doing things praising when the show does the same thing
Absolutely! It really irks me how much RR talks about the movies while doing a lot worse. I also hate how people act like the movies are unforgivable, like, it's been 15 years and you're still talking about it, surely it has SOME cultural impact
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So we all, anti-Percabeth/Annabeth, agree that the problem with her is her arrogance and sick need to control everyone, right? That's of course due to Rick's poor skills to write women and his creepy beliefs that powerful women insult and physically hurt their boyfriends. But I constantly think about how all of that could make Percabeth such an interesting couple. Anties think that they should just break up but I genuinely believe it could work out if Rick even tried. It would be interesting and sweet watching them grow together. They can, they love each other so much they're willing to heal just to be together.
If Rick wasn't so full of himself and tried to give a second thought to his misogynist beliefs Percabeth would be such a powerful and healthy relationship. I'm really furious because it really has the potential to become my favorite couple. š„¹š
Two kids that grow learning that they won't even make it to adulthood, that their existence will inevitably bring them the worst type of suffering, learning that the only way to survive is to always act like a warrior in the middle of a battlefield, leaning to each other and trying to deal with their traumas the best they can to not fall into madness, of course, leaving them very confused and wrong about how to deal with their feelings and how to treat other people, always in constant tension and caution ready to attack at the minimum inconvenience. These kids are so messed up and it SHOWS, even if it wasn't Rick's intention. But I really wish Rick would notice this and write about it because how great and touching the story would be.
Percy and Annabeth love each other sooo much, it shows, but they do have a toxic relationship.
i have this headcanon that percy and rachel reconnect after his first year at new rome. he visits camp half-blood and runs into her. they talk for a few minutes and agree to see a movie together as friends. and within a week. they're back to finding comfort in each other's presence. having inside jokes. and bi-weekly painting sessions. and late might conversations about their hopes and dreams for the future. just a really healthy friendship that they've needed since they were fifteen.
percy describing possessed!luke if botl was written after 2020: his eyes were golden, the color of someoneās pee after they forgot to hydrate the entire day
i am not understanding rick's thought process behind the characters consistent mockery of percy's intelligence. especially in light of knowing that the characters do value percy as a friend and demigod. he was the child of the prophecy. he jumped into the river styx to better prepare for defending olympus. he used his gods-given wish to build a better future for demigods. he plays an active role as camp counselor at chb and is a respected confidant at cj. he is evidently held in high regard in his absense. but the surrounding characters seem to treat his presence like a hinderance to their peace. it's rather disappointing to read.
I still remember being excited when the Pjo tv show's first chapter came out. I was sooo happy that I completely ignored horrible mistakes in the first chapter... I should've known better and seen the red flags :')
I knew some things were wrong but the moment I watched the second chapter and saw Percy's joke about Thalia I KNEW the show was shit.
One of the things I love about Percy so much is his empathy. Percy almost CRIED when Grover told him about Thalia's sacrifice, he admired her and felt so bad for her, and even felt ashamed he couldn't do the same with his mom... And you're telling me that when he finds out in the show he literally just MOCKS HER?! HE MOCKS HER SACRIFICE? I just know the writers were clapping each other's backs and thought: "Hahaha Persassy" EXCUSE ME? That's NOT sassy, Percy was acting like a motherfucking asshole! Why would he (or anyone) joke about a little girl being killed!
And MY GOD, Annabeth just saying "don't laugh, she met a hero's fateš„ŗ" and then she just brushed it up and kept walking...GIRL? He's mocking your best friend's DEATH! SLAP HIM!!!!
This is NOT my Percy wtf.
I hate you, Rick, because what the fuck are you correcting here?
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The "not my type" line has been misinterpreted and memed to death for the past 10 years, but it's important to recognize what Percy was really saying during that scene: "I didn't even realize you were intoĀ guys. Frankly, I kind of thought you still hated me. How did IĀ missĀ this?"
The "not my type line" read very much like a confused echo. He might have been wondering who Nico's typeĀ was, but that would have been more due to curiosity than anything else.
The way the fandom has somehow twisted it into Percy being offended about not being Nico's type always annoyed me, and the fact that it's become the basis for most of their fanon interactions drives me up a wall. There's so much more to their dynamic, and I feel like this is one of the cases where canon actually fleshes their dynamic outĀ moreĀ than popular fanon does. Canon shows a friendship that transforms, drastically, from hero worship, to grudge induced hatred, to an unsteady alliance (on Percy's side) and a conflicted crush (on Nico's), to a tenuous but slowly solidifying friendship that's backed by years of complicated history.Ā
But so many of the people on Tumblr and Pinterest still reduce it to a dumb "not my type" meme.
Percy Jackson is one of the most unreliable narrators in YA fantasy
Especially because he might be the most dangerous demigod to ever live and the only reason we donāt all see it is because of his narration
Think about it, in Heroes of Olympus, Percy is a living weapon. Heās the kid who drowned an entire volcano, toppled a titan, held up the sky and yet if you only read his narration, youād think he was just some guy with a sword and a bad haircut.
He downplays everything. Heāll casually mention taking down a fleet, then go off on a tangent about blue food or how awkward he feels around Reyna. The boy is walking Greek nuclear power and he sells himself short.
Itās not false humility but rather a shield. Percy has always narrated from the back foot, using sarcasm and understatement to keep the world from realizing how heavy it all feels to carry. The Gods know what he is. His enemies know what he is. Even his friends sometimes pause, look at him and are in awe of him.
The wild part? We still see him as an underdog because he wants us to. He never lets the narrative turn into āThe Great Percy Jackson, Savior of Olympus.ā