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i mean i wrote that post about a real life woman whose actual fingers i want forced in my mouth but it's great that you saw your beatles rpf bleed through the contours of my desire man. all of us are facets on the infinite gem of god's earth. personally i can't see ringo domming
kromer hates anti-self language! stop using anti-self language today!
trans masc is a weird label because im not even masc. im girly as fuck. pretty pink princess over here. i just want a massive cock, weird pronouns and a deep voice. maybe muscles. but like in a cute feminine fairy sort of way.
i don't believe i have to say this in 2023 but i am not a "woman trapped in a man's body". i am a girl trapped in the body of another, worse girl, and there's also a boy we keep caged up in there and feed dog food to keep him docile

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Ok but like. What the fuck is there to do on the internet anymore?
Idk when I was younger, you could just go and go and find exciting new websites full of whatever cool things you wanted to explore. An overabundance of ways to occupy your time online.
Now, it's just... Social media. That's it. Social media and news sites. And I'm tired of social media and I'm tired of the news.
Am I just like completely inept at finding new things or has the internet just fallen apart that much with the problems of SEO and web 3.0 turning everything into a same-site prison?
Long collection of resources under the cut.
You're right that the internet is smaller than it used to be, but there's still some cool stuff left in the corners. I'd recommend checking checking out Neocities if you haven't--it's an independent web hosting platform like Geocities of the old web, and there are hundreds of interesting and active pages discoverable both through their search function and through web buttons (links attached to small pictures with the title of a website) within the websites themselves. Here are three examples of web buttons you may find in link pages:
Most Neocities websites have link pages or button collections with anywhere from tens to hundreds of these. Don't be afraid to explore!
If you're looking for something more like a search engine, I can point you towards Marginalia. It's not a particularly smart engine, but it's perfectly usable if you've ever been taught to use search engines back when they were mostly run through keywords instead of full sentence comprehension. There's also an "about" and "tips" section on the front page with more information. The algorithm of Marginalia can be filtered by the user to allow, disallow, or require JavaScript depending on your needs, plus there are filters designed specifically to prioritize web 1.0 sites or mostly text-based ones. It is possible to search for modern websites with it, but it can return websites from just about any decade (since the invention of the web, obviously) so long as they contain the information you're looking for. For example, here are some random interesting sites I've found using Marginalia:
Native Languages of the Americas: Native American Cultures
BASIC HTML COMPETENCY IS THE NEW PUNK FOLK EXPLOSION!
Earthbound Text Labs by Bill Eager
The possibilities for discovery are truly endless.
Now you might want to know about directories. These make browsing for websites easier, but require you to read through and judge which ones to visit, as there aren't algorithms ranking the sites besides the whim of whoever coded the directory. Some of them have themes, others don't. Here are two that I've used:
Yesterlinks Directory
Ichigo Directory
Directories can be harder to come by just by surfing the net, but they aren't impossible to find. Many personal websites have their own directories of interesting sites hidden within them.
Webrings are similar to directories, but are actually more community-based. You have to register your website to be a part of a webring, usually by sending an email to whoever runs it and meeting some kind of entry criteria. For example, my personal website used to be a part of a webring called Sweet Dreams, which was for websites that heavily utilize color palettes and images of cute things, particularly sweets. Webrings will give you access to a widget upon entry that allow visitors and other members to browse between the registered websites in a massive ring, ergo, where the term gets its name. Webrings can have any theme or criteria for entry. If you can make a website about it, you can find a webring for it.
Now, you might be wondering about social media alternatives. I can't offer much, but I can nudge you towards the idea of forums. Here's one I found that could really use some traffic. I also browse a bit on MelonLand forum, which is actually closed right now--it's currently closed on Mondays--but on any other day of the week, you can find a fun community there dedicated to web revival. You can find it through MelonLand's main page. I'd also recommend checking out SpaceHey, which is a MySpace clone that's customizable and easy to use.
I hope this is of some help to you. The internet may feel less magical than it used to be, but that doesn't mean that the spark has completely died out. These types of indie websites need more attention if we ever hope to reverse the damage done to the internet by centralization and corporate interest. People are trying to make the web a cooler place to be, but we're going to have to do the work of finding and interacting with these projects in order to get them off the ground someday.
ALSO you should consider browsing Virtual Pet List and seeing if there are any pet sites you might be interested in playing. There is a whole genre of browser games right under your nose
Another one that I just found recently is this, which is a whole collection of blogs, organized by topic!
A collection of 1,966 blogs about every topic
Look guys the real internet IS STILL THERE I'm going to cry
I wish everyone who was ever into knock down drag out fandom fights would direct all that energy towards their city council, I feel like that would transform society overnight.
like. You know how if you keep tabs on council meetings and your councilor says something dumb as hell and you not only get to call them on it, but grab all your friends to dogpile them??? and if you do it enough you can actually find a replacement for them who wonāt say as much dumb shit and will actually allocate funds for the unhoused and pressure the police chief to stop lying? wayyyyyy more fun than going uncorked at some teenage rando with an untagged incest ship.
#I guarantee your city councilor is so much weirder than your online nemesis (via @magnesiumflare)
one time i was at a city council meeting where the chief of police and the mayor got into a screaming match, because the mayor had picked up and thrown out trash in someone's yard (an open, half-empty bottle of antifreeze (poisonous) that had been sitting out for months and it was now July) and the chief of police arrested him for trespassing and theft, and the mayor had to bail himself out of jail in order to attend the city council meeting.
You want drama? You want fic inspiration? You want to have an immediate impact on the world? local politics is your answer
I'm gonna be real, as great as it is seeing people rightfully talking about how shitty everything surrounding finnster is, i DO wish a little more focus was put on the fact that his entire thing is super fucking hostile towards trans women. the fact that he's still got a green on shinigami eyes feels like a joke actually
Like I'm gonna be real I don't think I could physically ever trust this fucker when his pinned tweet is literally his birth certificate. how tone deaf do you have to fucking be
come the fuck on
Also don't forget his content for a long while was being a literal Omegle trap and all he reflected on it was that it was "kinda in poor taste".
how is f1nni5ter super hostile to trans women? What's wrong with being a crossdresser?
Understanding the difference between systemic oppression and social stigma: Why endogenic systems aren't oppressed for being plural, and why that doesn't mean that their struggles are unimportant
Time for the newest syscourse topic, one that Iāve actually been thinking about quite a bit lately. I had a conversation with my very pro-endo friend about it a while back, and it caused me to realize that the entire issue is really that we donāt understand the distinction between oppression and social stigma, and why exactly endogenic plurals are stigmatized, but not oppressed. And why this doesnāt mean that struggles that they do face are āinvalidā (boy, do I hate that whole concept. I hate the whole valid thing. It doesnāt do anything any justice.)Ā
To start off with, it's important to clarify each of these terms. Oppression refers to the systematic mistreatment, subjugation, and denial of rights by those in power against a specific group. On the other hand, social stigma involves societal disapproval or mistreatment directed at individuals who possess certain characteristics or identities. While the two concepts may intersect, they are not synonymous.Ā
Endogenic plurals, despite facing challenges in the form of social stigma, do not experience systemic oppression in the same way as historically marginalized groups. The comparison I drew in my conversation with the previously mentioned friend was to communities like furries and therians, who similarly encounter varying degrees of societal rejection. While they may be subjected to ridicule, bullying, or social ostracization, these experiences are not the same as being actively oppressed by institutions and systemic structures.
I would also like to highlight that the challenges endogenic plurals face are largely only present within the Western context. Outside of that, they not only āwould beā but are very easily accepted, sometimes for religious/spiritual reasons. I had someone from the Middle East (not going to specify which country because I donāt know if anyone knows who this is and would prefer to not dox them lol) describe to me that they once thought that they were endogenic ā they were open to their family and community about this, and were very widely accepted for it. It was seen as creative, and a beautiful thing! But once they discovered that they had formed their system through trauma, and that they had DID, it became different. Suddenly it was something to be shunned ā this is largely because it isnāt the system thatās the issue. It isnāt the concept of plurality that is an issue, by and large, itās the trauma. Itās the fact that this is a disabling condition. Itās the fact that when you have DID, you have a rare mental illness. Itās the fact that you are experiencing trauma responses that are unpalatable to those who donāt understand them.Ā
Thatās far from the only story Iāve heard of that type, and Iāve particularly seen a LOT of Asian systems speaking about acceptance of endogenic plurality vs. rejection of DID in their cultures. This is a very West-centric argument, and also goes to show how narrow of a perspective many of the current larger syscoursers pushing endo oppression as a concept have on the subject of oppression.Ā
You may say, āBut, thereās a potential for systemic oppression and violence against endogenic plurals! We just donāt have enough data, because theyāre not āoutā yet.ā My friend said this! I appreciated the point, because it allowed me to highlight my above argument about endogenic plurality outside of the west and also the fact that historical patterns of systemic oppression and the reasoning for such and the examination of parallels with other marginalized groups and their histories with oppression reveal that such concerns are really just⦠Not warranted. Genuinely, the struggles that endogenic plurals face are much closer to that of the furry community, or that of the therian community. These groups also have to deal with with societal misunderstandings and negative perceptions. Just as with endogenic plurals, the issues they face stem from a lack of understanding rather than a deliberate effort to oppress. If either of those groups were to be open about their identities, theyād face similar struggles ā and they do. Itās not exactly the wisest thing to talk to your boss about being a furry or a therian, and itās liable to get you some hate/bullying/mistreatment directed towards you at some point. Itās stigma.
While endogenic plurals may experience interpersonal mistreatment and possibly even limited job opportunities due to being open about their identities, these challenges are primarily driven by social stigma and negative perceptions. It's worth noting that any systemic violence or marginalization they encounter often stems from an intersection with already marginalized groups, such as the queer or neurodiverse communities. Sure, many endogenic plurals are queer or otherwise neurodiverse, but that intersection and further the violence directed towards it canāt exist without the existence of those other identities. A cishet, white, NT and otherwise non-marginalized endogenic plural isnāt oppressed. A trans, ND, POC who is an endogenic plural is, but not because of their plurality, though it does create a different (and notable) intersection with a few of these aspects.Ā
It's really important to recognize that conflating social stigma with systemic oppression oversimplifies the experiences of truly systemically oppressed groups, while at the same time not even doing any justice to the issues endogenic plurals themselves DO face. If we can just⦠Understand that these are two very separate issues, the distinct challenges that endogenic plurals DO face can be more accurately and effectively addressed and advocated for. If we can just ACKNOWLEDGE this, thatās already contributing to a broader, more informed discourse that fosters so much more inclusivity and empathy than what weāve got right now.
serious question. When I was in middle school my teacher caught me mumbling to myself and mentioning voices in my head and she then called my mom into a parent teacher meeting where she discussed that I could have schizophrenia. Afterwards I was told harshly to not show any signs of plurality and that doing so could get me institutionalized. Is that oppression or social stigma?
Itās misdirected ableism! I think I went into it above, if not, thatās my bad. Itās mistreatment happening because itās perceived as a mental illness that itās not ā schizophrenia. Itās also wildly incorrect on the person who told you thatās part for how a psychotic disorder would be addressed at that point and with those types of symptoms, anyway. Iām sorry you had that experience.
But without the ableism there thatās directed towards schizophrenia/psychotic disorders/etc., this particular issue isnāt something that would come up. It doesnāt mean your experience doesnāt matter, or is any less valid. It just means that the reason it happens is complex and the way itās addressed needs to do it the justice it deserves for anything to change.
Okay, new question isn't abeism considered a system of oppression? Of abled people historically discriminating against disabled people.
If you want to direct me to research on oppression I'd be grateful, I just want a better understanding.
It is! But the ableism is misdirected ā itās not because of plurality, itās because of plurality being perceived as something else that DOES have its own axis of oppression ā schizophrenia, in this case. Itās not a new kind of oppression if a straight person gets called a gay slur, itās misdirected homophobia. Itās not a new kind of oppression when my gentile friend gets called the k word ā itās misdirected antisemitism. I hope that makes sense, Iām happy to help clarify any further if needed!
"Itās not a new kind of oppression if a straight person gets called a gay slur, itās misdirected homophobia. Itās not a new kind of oppression when my gentile friend gets called the k word ā itās misdirected antisemitism."
what about if you are like a femboy on hrt, but you don't identify as a trans person. you're going to face the same kind of treatment and it's all going to be misdirected transphobia, but at that point you are suffering in almost all the same ways as an oppressed group. but it is somehow not a struggle of oppression, since you do not identify as said oppressed group? Would that be correct?
Itās not about not identifying as said oppressed group. In your case, youāre not schizophrenic. You canāt identify your way into that, you know what I mean?
If youāre a femboy on HRT, thatās a different case. No matter how you cut it, that is a form of queerness and is still queerphobia directed at you for such, and is still coming at you from an angle where the only difference between what youāre experiencing and any other kind of transphobia is your internal way of identifying yourself.
The point to all of this is that endogenic plurals do not have their own axis of oppression, though they can still intersect with other axes and frequently do. Without either being perceived as or already being a part of an otherwise oppressed group, the systemic oppression isnāt there. Endos face misdirected ableism, sure, as well as other things. But itās not because of plurality and directed at plurality.
I think your comparison isnāt really equivalent, because the hypothetical person that you mentioned is facing misdirected transphobia, yes, but theyāre already a part of the same/an overlapping group ā They are still oppressed for being queer ā because that is a queer identity.
More accurate comparison would be a cishet man being harassed for being accused of being trans. He is not trans, he is not queer, and heās certainly not oppressed for⦠Looking a bit trans to some people. He is just an unfortunate victim of misdirected transphobia. Does that mean his issues arenāt real? Does that mean they shouldnāt be talked about? Does that make them not hurt or not matter? No. It means that they need to be addressed accurately in order to actually be taken care of.
Iād actually like to hear your opinion on this to get a better idea of where youāre coming from: Do you feel that furries, otherkin, kinnies, and therians are systemically oppressed simply for being what they are? (Keep in mind, weāre not including things like misdirected ableism or any LGBTphobia they may experience, because these are due to those other groups being marginalized.) Why or why not?
Tbh I think queerphobia, sanism and ableism have a lot in common, but I think your argument for use of accurate terms is right. What's interesting to me is that I don't think I have ever experienced oppression for my existence as an osdd system. I've only ever experienced misdirected ableism on grounds of people mistaking me as schizophrenic, because no one around me knows about dissociative disorders. So that is food for thought. "Do you feel that furries, otherkin, kinnies, and therians are systemically oppressed simply for being what they are?" No, I just see a lot of misdirected ableism, misdirected homophobia, and sanism thrown their way. Anyways thank you for this discussion I have learned a lot.

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Understanding the difference between systemic oppression and social stigma: Why endogenic systems aren't oppressed for being plural, and why that doesn't mean that their struggles are unimportant
Time for the newest syscourse topic, one that Iāve actually been thinking about quite a bit lately. I had a conversation with my very pro-endo friend about it a while back, and it caused me to realize that the entire issue is really that we donāt understand the distinction between oppression and social stigma, and why exactly endogenic plurals are stigmatized, but not oppressed. And why this doesnāt mean that struggles that they do face are āinvalidā (boy, do I hate that whole concept. I hate the whole valid thing. It doesnāt do anything any justice.)Ā
To start off with, it's important to clarify each of these terms. Oppression refers to the systematic mistreatment, subjugation, and denial of rights by those in power against a specific group. On the other hand, social stigma involves societal disapproval or mistreatment directed at individuals who possess certain characteristics or identities. While the two concepts may intersect, they are not synonymous.Ā
Endogenic plurals, despite facing challenges in the form of social stigma, do not experience systemic oppression in the same way as historically marginalized groups. The comparison I drew in my conversation with the previously mentioned friend was to communities like furries and therians, who similarly encounter varying degrees of societal rejection. While they may be subjected to ridicule, bullying, or social ostracization, these experiences are not the same as being actively oppressed by institutions and systemic structures.
I would also like to highlight that the challenges endogenic plurals face are largely only present within the Western context. Outside of that, they not only āwould beā but are very easily accepted, sometimes for religious/spiritual reasons. I had someone from the Middle East (not going to specify which country because I donāt know if anyone knows who this is and would prefer to not dox them lol) describe to me that they once thought that they were endogenic ā they were open to their family and community about this, and were very widely accepted for it. It was seen as creative, and a beautiful thing! But once they discovered that they had formed their system through trauma, and that they had DID, it became different. Suddenly it was something to be shunned ā this is largely because it isnāt the system thatās the issue. It isnāt the concept of plurality that is an issue, by and large, itās the trauma. Itās the fact that this is a disabling condition. Itās the fact that when you have DID, you have a rare mental illness. Itās the fact that you are experiencing trauma responses that are unpalatable to those who donāt understand them.Ā
Thatās far from the only story Iāve heard of that type, and Iāve particularly seen a LOT of Asian systems speaking about acceptance of endogenic plurality vs. rejection of DID in their cultures. This is a very West-centric argument, and also goes to show how narrow of a perspective many of the current larger syscoursers pushing endo oppression as a concept have on the subject of oppression.Ā
You may say, āBut, thereās a potential for systemic oppression and violence against endogenic plurals! We just donāt have enough data, because theyāre not āoutā yet.ā My friend said this! I appreciated the point, because it allowed me to highlight my above argument about endogenic plurality outside of the west and also the fact that historical patterns of systemic oppression and the reasoning for such and the examination of parallels with other marginalized groups and their histories with oppression reveal that such concerns are really just⦠Not warranted. Genuinely, the struggles that endogenic plurals face are much closer to that of the furry community, or that of the therian community. These groups also have to deal with with societal misunderstandings and negative perceptions. Just as with endogenic plurals, the issues they face stem from a lack of understanding rather than a deliberate effort to oppress. If either of those groups were to be open about their identities, theyād face similar struggles ā and they do. Itās not exactly the wisest thing to talk to your boss about being a furry or a therian, and itās liable to get you some hate/bullying/mistreatment directed towards you at some point. Itās stigma.
While endogenic plurals may experience interpersonal mistreatment and possibly even limited job opportunities due to being open about their identities, these challenges are primarily driven by social stigma and negative perceptions. It's worth noting that any systemic violence or marginalization they encounter often stems from an intersection with already marginalized groups, such as the queer or neurodiverse communities. Sure, many endogenic plurals are queer or otherwise neurodiverse, but that intersection and further the violence directed towards it canāt exist without the existence of those other identities. A cishet, white, NT and otherwise non-marginalized endogenic plural isnāt oppressed. A trans, ND, POC who is an endogenic plural is, but not because of their plurality, though it does create a different (and notable) intersection with a few of these aspects.Ā
It's really important to recognize that conflating social stigma with systemic oppression oversimplifies the experiences of truly systemically oppressed groups, while at the same time not even doing any justice to the issues endogenic plurals themselves DO face. If we can just⦠Understand that these are two very separate issues, the distinct challenges that endogenic plurals DO face can be more accurately and effectively addressed and advocated for. If we can just ACKNOWLEDGE this, thatās already contributing to a broader, more informed discourse that fosters so much more inclusivity and empathy than what weāve got right now.
serious question. When I was in middle school my teacher caught me mumbling to myself and mentioning voices in my head and she then called my mom into a parent teacher meeting where she discussed that I could have schizophrenia. Afterwards I was told harshly to not show any signs of plurality and that doing so could get me institutionalized. Is that oppression or social stigma?
Itās misdirected ableism! I think I went into it above, if not, thatās my bad. Itās mistreatment happening because itās perceived as a mental illness that itās not ā schizophrenia. Itās also wildly incorrect on the person who told you thatās part for how a psychotic disorder would be addressed at that point and with those types of symptoms, anyway. Iām sorry you had that experience.
But without the ableism there thatās directed towards schizophrenia/psychotic disorders/etc., this particular issue isnāt something that would come up. It doesnāt mean your experience doesnāt matter, or is any less valid. It just means that the reason it happens is complex and the way itās addressed needs to do it the justice it deserves for anything to change.
Okay, new question isn't abeism considered a system of oppression? Of abled people historically discriminating against disabled people.
If you want to direct me to research on oppression I'd be grateful, I just want a better understanding.
It is! But the ableism is misdirected ā itās not because of plurality, itās because of plurality being perceived as something else that DOES have its own axis of oppression ā schizophrenia, in this case. Itās not a new kind of oppression if a straight person gets called a gay slur, itās misdirected homophobia. Itās not a new kind of oppression when my gentile friend gets called the k word ā itās misdirected antisemitism. I hope that makes sense, Iām happy to help clarify any further if needed!
"Itās not a new kind of oppression if a straight person gets called a gay slur, itās misdirected homophobia. Itās not a new kind of oppression when my gentile friend gets called the k word ā itās misdirected antisemitism."
what about if you are like a femboy on hrt, but you don't identify as a trans person. you're going to face the same kind of treatment and it's all going to be misdirected transphobia, but at that point you are suffering in almost all the same ways as an oppressed group. but it is somehow not a struggle of oppression, since you do not identify as said oppressed group? Would that be correct?
hihihi could you go into detail about what stuffs you researched about endogenic systems !? bc im very curious and i'd like to learn more about them myself lol btw i love your blog :3
GLADLYYYYY I'ma just rant because I can and I love talking about this
Endogenic systems are systems that do not form due to trauma and via other means. Examples: (a long list of em)
Parogenic: Parogenic systems are systems formed from free-will. This includes tulpamancy, thoughtform and soulbonding.
Quoigenic: Quoigenic systems are systems that 1) Don't know and donāt care what their origin is 2) Donāt wish to disclose their origin 3) Are mixed origin
Protogenic: Protogenic systems are systems that were born plural or have been plural for as long as they can remember (from what I've noticed this seems to be the most common)
Neurogenic: Neurogenic systems are systems that are formed by pre-existing mental illnesses or neurodivergencies
Tulpa: Tulpa systems are intentionally created systems using tulpamancy/thoughtform processes.
Gateway system: Gateway systems are systems that have a connection to another universe and have exits and entrances where headmates can come and go. (This is primarily what I am I do believe)
Median: Median systems are systems that are more connected than typical systems. The alters in these systems are most commonly called facets. Median systems bridge the line between singlet and system.
Soulbonds: Soulbond systems are systems with a lot of soulbonds. Soulbonds are souls from another universe that have latched onto the system or host. Typically these systems have a lot of fictives however the soulbonds can come from any universe not just fictional ones.
THESE ARE JUST A FEW :D I could list plenty more but I'll save you from that.
Now let's rant, next part is facts.
Most research shows that Disacoiative disorders such as DID and OSDD don't have to be caused by trauma, trauma simply increases the odds to have it. A lot of endos do have trauma but that's not the primary cause for their system and may not be a cause at all.
Several studies show endos do exist and some even say up to 2% of the population is simply naturally plural WITHOUT trauma.
For some systems it may take weeks to form a new alters, some a matter of minutes. It's been shown these experiences vary between endos and traumagenics pretty much equally. There is no one way to be plural, but we do share very similar experiences.
And lastly this isn't research but this is still knowledge about endos, so here are my experiences and views.
I am endo due to spiritual reasons but even when I was traumagenic, and my spiritual related alters were dormant, I've always sorta accepted endos. I didn't understand them at the time but do now and really people are quick to assume. We tend to follow other's leads, and so let's say if someone hates on endos, a ton of people are going to as well because subconsciously they now think endos are a bad thing. This goes for any community, so do proper research before hating on something and criticizing it. And well, don't even hate on something, let people live their lives.
can you site your sources I just wanna read them?
Understanding the difference between systemic oppression and social stigma: Why endogenic systems aren't oppressed for being plural, and why that doesn't mean that their struggles are unimportant
Time for the newest syscourse topic, one that Iāve actually been thinking about quite a bit lately. I had a conversation with my very pro-endo friend about it a while back, and it caused me to realize that the entire issue is really that we donāt understand the distinction between oppression and social stigma, and why exactly endogenic plurals are stigmatized, but not oppressed. And why this doesnāt mean that struggles that they do face are āinvalidā (boy, do I hate that whole concept. I hate the whole valid thing. It doesnāt do anything any justice.)Ā
To start off with, it's important to clarify each of these terms. Oppression refers to the systematic mistreatment, subjugation, and denial of rights by those in power against a specific group. On the other hand, social stigma involves societal disapproval or mistreatment directed at individuals who possess certain characteristics or identities. While the two concepts may intersect, they are not synonymous.Ā
Endogenic plurals, despite facing challenges in the form of social stigma, do not experience systemic oppression in the same way as historically marginalized groups. The comparison I drew in my conversation with the previously mentioned friend was to communities like furries and therians, who similarly encounter varying degrees of societal rejection. While they may be subjected to ridicule, bullying, or social ostracization, these experiences are not the same as being actively oppressed by institutions and systemic structures.
I would also like to highlight that the challenges endogenic plurals face are largely only present within the Western context. Outside of that, they not only āwould beā but are very easily accepted, sometimes for religious/spiritual reasons. I had someone from the Middle East (not going to specify which country because I donāt know if anyone knows who this is and would prefer to not dox them lol) describe to me that they once thought that they were endogenic ā they were open to their family and community about this, and were very widely accepted for it. It was seen as creative, and a beautiful thing! But once they discovered that they had formed their system through trauma, and that they had DID, it became different. Suddenly it was something to be shunned ā this is largely because it isnāt the system thatās the issue. It isnāt the concept of plurality that is an issue, by and large, itās the trauma. Itās the fact that this is a disabling condition. Itās the fact that when you have DID, you have a rare mental illness. Itās the fact that you are experiencing trauma responses that are unpalatable to those who donāt understand them.Ā
Thatās far from the only story Iāve heard of that type, and Iāve particularly seen a LOT of Asian systems speaking about acceptance of endogenic plurality vs. rejection of DID in their cultures. This is a very West-centric argument, and also goes to show how narrow of a perspective many of the current larger syscoursers pushing endo oppression as a concept have on the subject of oppression.Ā
You may say, āBut, thereās a potential for systemic oppression and violence against endogenic plurals! We just donāt have enough data, because theyāre not āoutā yet.ā My friend said this! I appreciated the point, because it allowed me to highlight my above argument about endogenic plurality outside of the west and also the fact that historical patterns of systemic oppression and the reasoning for such and the examination of parallels with other marginalized groups and their histories with oppression reveal that such concerns are really just⦠Not warranted. Genuinely, the struggles that endogenic plurals face are much closer to that of the furry community, or that of the therian community. These groups also have to deal with with societal misunderstandings and negative perceptions. Just as with endogenic plurals, the issues they face stem from a lack of understanding rather than a deliberate effort to oppress. If either of those groups were to be open about their identities, theyād face similar struggles ā and they do. Itās not exactly the wisest thing to talk to your boss about being a furry or a therian, and itās liable to get you some hate/bullying/mistreatment directed towards you at some point. Itās stigma.
While endogenic plurals may experience interpersonal mistreatment and possibly even limited job opportunities due to being open about their identities, these challenges are primarily driven by social stigma and negative perceptions. It's worth noting that any systemic violence or marginalization they encounter often stems from an intersection with already marginalized groups, such as the queer or neurodiverse communities. Sure, many endogenic plurals are queer or otherwise neurodiverse, but that intersection and further the violence directed towards it canāt exist without the existence of those other identities. A cishet, white, NT and otherwise non-marginalized endogenic plural isnāt oppressed. A trans, ND, POC who is an endogenic plural is, but not because of their plurality, though it does create a different (and notable) intersection with a few of these aspects.Ā
It's really important to recognize that conflating social stigma with systemic oppression oversimplifies the experiences of truly systemically oppressed groups, while at the same time not even doing any justice to the issues endogenic plurals themselves DO face. If we can just⦠Understand that these are two very separate issues, the distinct challenges that endogenic plurals DO face can be more accurately and effectively addressed and advocated for. If we can just ACKNOWLEDGE this, thatās already contributing to a broader, more informed discourse that fosters so much more inclusivity and empathy than what weāve got right now.
serious question. When I was in middle school my teacher caught me mumbling to myself and mentioning voices in my head and she then called my mom into a parent teacher meeting where she discussed that I could have schizophrenia. Afterwards I was told harshly to not show any signs of plurality and that doing so could get me institutionalized. Is that oppression or social stigma?
Itās misdirected ableism! I think I went into it above, if not, thatās my bad. Itās mistreatment happening because itās perceived as a mental illness that itās not ā schizophrenia. Itās also wildly incorrect on the person who told you thatās part for how a psychotic disorder would be addressed at that point and with those types of symptoms, anyway. Iām sorry you had that experience.
But without the ableism there thatās directed towards schizophrenia/psychotic disorders/etc., this particular issue isnāt something that would come up. It doesnāt mean your experience doesnāt matter, or is any less valid. It just means that the reason it happens is complex and the way itās addressed needs to do it the justice it deserves for anything to change.
Okay, new question isn't abeism considered a system of oppression? Of abled people historically discriminating against disabled people.
If you want to direct me to research on oppression I'd be grateful, I just want a better understanding.
Sick list of symptoms bro. Now try humanizing your behavior instead of pathologizing it.
Pathologizing: Hey sorry I yelled at you. I have this ADHD symptom called RSD that makes me really sensitive.
Humanizing: Hey, Iām sorry that I blew up like that earlier. In the moment I felt really attacked and overwhelmed and I reacted badly, but I know you didnāt mean to offend me with what you said, so that behavior is on me.
Understanding the difference between systemic oppression and social stigma: Why endogenic systems aren't oppressed for being plural, and why that doesn't mean that their struggles are unimportant
Time for the newest syscourse topic, one that Iāve actually been thinking about quite a bit lately. I had a conversation with my very pro-endo friend about it a while back, and it caused me to realize that the entire issue is really that we donāt understand the distinction between oppression and social stigma, and why exactly endogenic plurals are stigmatized, but not oppressed. And why this doesnāt mean that struggles that they do face are āinvalidā (boy, do I hate that whole concept. I hate the whole valid thing. It doesnāt do anything any justice.)Ā
To start off with, it's important to clarify each of these terms. Oppression refers to the systematic mistreatment, subjugation, and denial of rights by those in power against a specific group. On the other hand, social stigma involves societal disapproval or mistreatment directed at individuals who possess certain characteristics or identities. While the two concepts may intersect, they are not synonymous.Ā
Endogenic plurals, despite facing challenges in the form of social stigma, do not experience systemic oppression in the same way as historically marginalized groups. The comparison I drew in my conversation with the previously mentioned friend was to communities like furries and therians, who similarly encounter varying degrees of societal rejection. While they may be subjected to ridicule, bullying, or social ostracization, these experiences are not the same as being actively oppressed by institutions and systemic structures.
I would also like to highlight that the challenges endogenic plurals face are largely only present within the Western context. Outside of that, they not only āwould beā but are very easily accepted, sometimes for religious/spiritual reasons. I had someone from the Middle East (not going to specify which country because I donāt know if anyone knows who this is and would prefer to not dox them lol) describe to me that they once thought that they were endogenic ā they were open to their family and community about this, and were very widely accepted for it. It was seen as creative, and a beautiful thing! But once they discovered that they had formed their system through trauma, and that they had DID, it became different. Suddenly it was something to be shunned ā this is largely because it isnāt the system thatās the issue. It isnāt the concept of plurality that is an issue, by and large, itās the trauma. Itās the fact that this is a disabling condition. Itās the fact that when you have DID, you have a rare mental illness. Itās the fact that you are experiencing trauma responses that are unpalatable to those who donāt understand them.Ā
Thatās far from the only story Iāve heard of that type, and Iāve particularly seen a LOT of Asian systems speaking about acceptance of endogenic plurality vs. rejection of DID in their cultures. This is a very West-centric argument, and also goes to show how narrow of a perspective many of the current larger syscoursers pushing endo oppression as a concept have on the subject of oppression.Ā
You may say, āBut, thereās a potential for systemic oppression and violence against endogenic plurals! We just donāt have enough data, because theyāre not āoutā yet.ā My friend said this! I appreciated the point, because it allowed me to highlight my above argument about endogenic plurality outside of the west and also the fact that historical patterns of systemic oppression and the reasoning for such and the examination of parallels with other marginalized groups and their histories with oppression reveal that such concerns are really just⦠Not warranted. Genuinely, the struggles that endogenic plurals face are much closer to that of the furry community, or that of the therian community. These groups also have to deal with with societal misunderstandings and negative perceptions. Just as with endogenic plurals, the issues they face stem from a lack of understanding rather than a deliberate effort to oppress. If either of those groups were to be open about their identities, theyād face similar struggles ā and they do. Itās not exactly the wisest thing to talk to your boss about being a furry or a therian, and itās liable to get you some hate/bullying/mistreatment directed towards you at some point. Itās stigma.
While endogenic plurals may experience interpersonal mistreatment and possibly even limited job opportunities due to being open about their identities, these challenges are primarily driven by social stigma and negative perceptions. It's worth noting that any systemic violence or marginalization they encounter often stems from an intersection with already marginalized groups, such as the queer or neurodiverse communities. Sure, many endogenic plurals are queer or otherwise neurodiverse, but that intersection and further the violence directed towards it canāt exist without the existence of those other identities. A cishet, white, NT and otherwise non-marginalized endogenic plural isnāt oppressed. A trans, ND, POC who is an endogenic plural is, but not because of their plurality, though it does create a different (and notable) intersection with a few of these aspects.Ā
It's really important to recognize that conflating social stigma with systemic oppression oversimplifies the experiences of truly systemically oppressed groups, while at the same time not even doing any justice to the issues endogenic plurals themselves DO face. If we can just⦠Understand that these are two very separate issues, the distinct challenges that endogenic plurals DO face can be more accurately and effectively addressed and advocated for. If we can just ACKNOWLEDGE this, thatās already contributing to a broader, more informed discourse that fosters so much more inclusivity and empathy than what weāve got right now.
serious question. When I was in middle school my teacher caught me mumbling to myself and mentioning voices in my head and she then called my mom into a parent teacher meeting where she discussed that I could have schizophrenia. Afterwards I was told harshly to not show any signs of plurality and that doing so could get me institutionalized. Is that oppression or social stigma?

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