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When I was a little boy, girls used to just do random cartwheels for no reason. Then one day, they stopped. Now that I am a man, no women randomly do cartwheels. This is because society is evil and killed the cartwheel impulse in their soul. They don't even spin horizontally anymore. It's fucked up.
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Been listening to the Penumbra Podcast for the first time and like... when does Juno get an inhaler? He's just met that Vespa lady properly. She's a doctor right??? She's gonna give him an inhaler, right???
I mean his first proper villain was literally called me asthma...
This is what feels like to talk about the Odyssey movie online btw
just to be clear i am reblogging a lot of critiques of Nolanās the odyssey i would like to also say i did enjoy it (watched it in full imax proper style :3) i also made my own notes while watching, may post may not who knows
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ohhh my god I just fact-checked, Nolan actually DID cut the "Nobody" scene from his Odyssey movie. Mfer that is like cutting the Father reveal from Star Wars. Let me speak in a language you understand this is like not dressing Batman up in his suit. "It was not possible to work it in" the TikTok musical with a budget of $4 and a scratched Hamilton CD managed to work it in in SONG form, step up your FUCKING GAME
nolanās odyssey is such a textbook study on the idiocy and dangers of presentism. yes of course penelope is a modern day feminist who wants to rule ithaca by herself. they make telemachus say that GREECE IS THE GREATEST CIVILIZATION IN THE WORLD as if the entire point of the massing of achaeans at troy for one unified cause isnāt spectacular precisely because THERE IS NO CONCEPT OF A UNIFIED GREECE NATIONS DO NOT EXISTTTTTT YETTTTT. literally 101 on historical writing is making sure that youāre avoiding strict periodization because the people living in a āperiodā will not identify themselves that way. ever. five million cheeky nods to āthe sea peoplesā but weāre being cute and coy and calling them āthe people from the sea.ā the obsession with xenia but refusal to call it xenia yes letās say āzeusās lawā a hundred times and reduce it to the literal expectation that any stranger could be a god in disguise. how was penelope just hanging out in the main hall of the palace with her husbandās dinner guests while they were playing with weapons with her HAIR COMPLETELY DOWN no veil no nothing just chilling casually. comical. stoppppp making movies that engage in historical viewpoints if youāre going to slather a modernized coat of paint over the top. āthe past is a foreign country, they do things differently there.ā or fucking whatever.
Parts of the Odyssey I WISH Christopher Nolan kept...
Aeolus and his wind bag
Odysseus meeting his mother Anticlea in the underworld. It hurts his heart to see she died of grief waiting for him to return.
The horror after Odysseus' men butcher the sun god's cows. The meat starts mooing on the skewers, the cowhides slither along the ground, and the carcasses get up and start moving like live cattle. It would've made for some great horror.
Penelope testing her husband by saying she moved the wedding bed (one of its posts was carved from an olive tree and the whole palace was built around it so you would have to uproot it to move the bed). Odysseus gets irate hearing that it was moved and his reaction is how she knows it's not Zeus in disguise (recall that Zeus is not above shapeshifting into women's husbands)
Telemachus nearly stringing Ody's bow on his first try with no prior knowledge but Ody secretly signals for him to stop
Athena being a bro and asking Eos (goddess of dawn) to hold back the day so Ody could have as much time "reuniting" with Penelope as possible.
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Spin this wheel. The result you get is a prediction you receive that will happen to you tomorrow.
How fucked are you?
Incredibly dead
This is pretty bad, but not life ending
Not good, but not terrible
Nothing changes in my life
This actually slightly improves my life
This is everything I've ever wanted
Can't spin/can't read/bald/nuance
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as someone who has formally studied the history of art and literature, my favorite things to study are always the "common" arts. vernacular design; material culture; and the pamphlets, ceramics, prints, and clothing forms we have zillions of extant examples of because they sold like hot cakes and workshops could only barely churn them out fast enough to meet demand. some sectors of art history scholarship are quite set on excluding "crafts" from "the arts," when, from my view, crafts are obviously a subsection of the arts, not a whole different category, and modes of "crafts" routinely get promoted to "arts" when heavyweight scholars take interest in them. it's like, mate, if you're calling yourself a serious art historian and you genuinely think that these eighteenth century tentacle porn prints are of zero intellectual or artistic value then that is your limitation as a scholar, not an inherent deficiency of the works. popular arts are exactly as worthy of respect and considered study as fine arts.
this is why it bugs me to no end to see people dismiss current popular art out of hand as completely unworthwhile in the name of fostering greater appreciation for the arts. hobby art, folk art, crafts, pop art, etc., they are all still very much art and it is valuable to treat them as such. to discount, for example, booktok romantasy novels as obviously bad and "not that deep" and label them as completely devoid of substance is, to me, a fundamentally incurious position to take. if I may say something a little bit meaner, it also strikes me as an excuse to be intellectually lazy and avoid having to learn anything new or subjectively unpleasant; it's a thought terminating cliche. and before anyone says anything, no, taking a work or genre or medium seriously does not automatically mean viewing it as Good or sacrosanct, I have ideological and aesthetic issues with much of the art canon, it means taking it seriously. dismissing huge swathes of the arts as unworthy of intellectual consideration is not a pro-art or pro-intellectual argument.
he's quoting hamilton pre-hamilton
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every time someone calls jupeter mlm or calls juno steel a fem man or god forbid "male" an angel doesnt die but resigns because they lose hope for humanity. Guys. Guys. Juno Steel Is A Lady. what about juno steel isnt ladylike enough for you. what about her makes her any more a man than she is a woman. no. no tell me. she uses he/she pronouns canonically. refers to herself as a lady. everyone around her calla her a lady. her brother in their childhood bedroom calls her "Lady Raincloud." do you need more? do you need proof. oh my god
its even there subtextually. with her relationship with her mother. like. yes she is non binary yes she also calls herself a man but i do need you to reeeaally interrogate why you are more comfortable with her having a masculine identity than a feminine one
I 100% agree with you about jupeter being nblm and how calling Juno Steel a man is wrong, but using exclusively she/her pronouns on a post about how Juno is nonbinary feels. slightly incorrect to me? it's true that she/her pronouns are used a couple of times in canon for juno - I did read your examples - but one is an adage-type saying (ik my experience as a nonbinary person is not the end-all-be-all, but I have been known to use pronouns that are not my norm for the purpose of a little saying flowing better), and the other is Nova Zolotovna, who does not know Juno at all & is very likely guessing based off Juno's very fem presentation. to my knowledge we never see Juno use she/her for himself outside of a little saying like that, and we never see any of the people who are close to him (Rita, Mick, Nureyev, Sasha, Benzaiten, etc) use she/her for him.
I agree that Juno Steel is a lady, and if you headcanon Juno as a binary trans woman I am all for that, but based strictly off the show I think it's just as constricting to Juno's identity to imply that she/her pronouns are more correct when referring to Juno rather than he/him, when he barely uses those pronouns for himself & no one he knows well uses them for him. Juno is nonbinary, Juno is a he/him lady, Juno is feminine but uses he/him pronouns, and I think that's just as valid & interesting as a binary trans character.
oh no i didn't mean to say that she/her pronouns were More correct! i was just using she/her exclusively for my point's sake and because it made the most sense in the context of my post - as someone who uses multiple pronouns and is friends with people who use multiple pronouns, that's usually how i go about using them. everyone has their own preferences, but that is how i use them.
i do not headcanon juno as a binary trans woman. my post was rooted in frustration and anger about the transmisogyny that goes around in fandom spaces, including junoverse. not that i think juno steel's masculine identity is any less real, authentic, or interesting than his feminine identity. i was pointing out that most of the fandom disregards his transfemininity altogether and calls him a man, male, or says he is in a mlm relationship.
i meant to make a point on how his feminine identity is boiled down or removed entirely in order to simplify his identity to "feminine man" or just "male." i understand how my post could come across like i was circling all the way back to shoving juno steel in a binary box!
thank you for giving me an opportunity to elaborate on my post! i would hate it if my words were misconstrued because i made a post in a moment of frustration
