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but there is no c in lgbt?
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the c in lgbt stands for cops
but there is no c in lgbt?
exactly.

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it's fascinating to me how people often start off trying to logically argue why things like "mspec gay/lesbian" or "asexual who loves sex" are perfectly sensible descriptors, then pivot to "why do you even care what words people use, you big meanie? you're excluding people!" as if exclusionary is the worst thing you could possibly be. why are we as adults discussing serious issues operating on the grade school logic of "leaving people out (of groups they objectively don't meet the criteria for) is bullying!" and never thinking any deeper. it is both fine to be excluded from a group/label that doesn't accurately describe you, and necessary that you are excluded from it so the people who it actually does describe can continue to use it accurately.
and to expand on my previous examples, what about the lesbians who are attracted only to women? what about the asexuals who genuinely lack a desire for sex and never want to have it? these experiences don't cease to exist because you diluted the words we used for them. should these people just make up new words? what happens when you want to use those too?
language evolves, yes, but isn't it convenient how it often seems to evolve in ways that strip away the ability of certain (often oppressed) groups of people to discuss their shared experiences? I wonder who that benefits?
I've just never understood how the word "lesbian" is supposed to be simultaneously so important and vital that people who are attracted to men simply HAVE to be able to use it, and so trivial that lesbians shouldn't have any kind of opinion about its meaning being diluted into nothing.
it's fascinating to me how people often start off trying to logically argue why things like "mspec gay/lesbian" or "asexual who loves sex" are perfectly sensible descriptors, then pivot to "why do you even care what words people use, you big meanie? you're excluding people!" as if exclusionary is the worst thing you could possibly be. why are we as adults discussing serious issues operating on the grade school logic of "leaving people out (of groups they objectively don't meet the criteria for) is bullying!" and never thinking any deeper. it is both fine to be excluded from a group/label that doesn't accurately describe you, and necessary that you are excluded from it so the people who it actually does describe can continue to use it accurately.
and to expand on my previous examples, what about the lesbians who are attracted only to women? what about the asexuals who genuinely lack a desire for sex and never want to have it? these experiences don't cease to exist because you diluted the words we used for them. should these people just make up new words? what happens when you want to use those too?
language evolves, yes, but isn't it convenient how it often seems to evolve in ways that strip away the ability of certain (often oppressed) groups of people to discuss their shared experiences? I wonder who that benefits?
tbh it's very difficult to take any opinion on callout culture on tumblr seriously if it fails to acknowledge how it arose out of necessity
The very first callout post I saw on this site was of a cis man in Florida who had abused his position as a ~cool educated anarchist~ to rape several women.
The first callout of a transfemme I didn’t see until years later and it was directed at monetizeyourcat for financially abusing and pressuring young trans women into sex.
Callout posts did have a purpose - there were indeed many people using their online persona as a means to abuse people.
many self-identified left-leaning people seem to have recently adopted a strange attitude of “maybe we should only believe victims if it’s politically convenient” which is basically the same ideological conditions that allowed Cesar Chavez to escape accountability while he was alive. This is a dangerous mindset that lays the groundwork for future Monetizeyourcats and future Cesar Chavezes.
i’m also like not to swing right at a hornet’s nest but i’m frustrated with how many people analyze sexuality to a point of fracturing it into so many pieces that it starts to feel nebulous because it lost its shape and it’s almost always to skirt around bisexuality like are we ever going to take bisexuality and biphobia seriously while respecting the line of upholding people’s right to self-determination

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im scared to ask but what the hell is “the pedophile manifesto” post y'all r talking about.
edit: i see 🥸
in case y'all were wondering where all these recent discourse posts have been coming from (click thru the link).
do not put pedophile apologia on my dash or I'm blocking u. transfems do not have to stick our necks out for these people.
lost 5 followers for being vocal about not supporting pedophiles ♡ i love when the trash takes itself out 😌 anyone else?
blocking reasons include trying to change the subject and redirect the overall conversation away from pedophiles towards the people who are rightfully fed up with this. y'all ain't slick!!! I'm blocking anyone who's even tangentially defending pedophiles right now, don't rb that shit if u haven't seen what brought on these discussions to begin with, and if you've already seen it and are still reblogging all that then unfollow me or wait for me to block you idc. y'all are going too far
she deleted everything lol AHT! AHT! i ain't letting y'all off that easy, screenshots of the full post below the cut. y'all r not gonna delete everything then act like people are just being crazy over nothing
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disturbing how many popular funny joke blogs that get put on my dash all the time are run by people who just. openly and wholeheartedly defend pedophilia and incest and if you say anything about it you're either treated like the one friend that's too woke or like you're trying to literally kill someone
i just don't think we need to be platforming shotaloversistertoucher69 no matter how many posts they spew out making unfunny jokes that use tumblr's favorite keywords of the hour
Honestly it feels like the discourse surrounding isff and related topics started from a good place. Trans women are pedo-jacketed all the time and, I think the initial vein of this conversation was a discussion about the ways Trans women are labeled as pedophiles bc theyre existence is viewed as explicit and sometimes they're around kids, and if you can label someone a pedophile for that, you can treat them like a pedophile. But I also feel like we lost the plot so so bad, the response to this shouldn't be to welcome and embrace pedophiles into the community? Why would anyone want to give validity to this, quite frankly conservative, way of thinking? It is a bad thing when wider society views trans women a pedophiles, it doesn't not mean we have to agree with them and let pedophiles have space in this conversation.
Sorry if this is incoherent im scrolling at work and keep having thoughts about this
I'm sympathetic to the fact that people wrongfully paint trans women as predators, because that's been a harmful stereotype for decades and decades by now, and I do think it needs to be combatted. But I think we agree that the best way to fight it is by pointing out that there's nothing about being transfem that makes one more likely to be predatory in any way. "Pedophiles are good, actually, so it doesn't matter if pedophilia is transfem culture" is a wild take that only perpetuates rhetoric that get trans women harmed in real life, not to mention how harmful it is to children and survivors of CSA to claim that pedophilia is a harmless sexual orientation akin to being LGBT. In my opinion, young transfems are especially put at risk by the way this discourse has gone, since now they're being presented with the idea that any community that accepts them must also accept open pedophiles.
The idea that trans women are more likely to be sexual predators is conservative and transmisogynistic at its core. Agreeing with it by pretending pedophilia is no big deal doesn't actually fight against it. Welcoming actual predators into the LGBT community instead of driving them out isn't helping the trans women who are wrongfully stereotyped as dangerous, and it is harming both survivors and the people that will be victimized as a result of the current "pedophilia is fine actually" trend.
when i was a kid i was so mad all the time bc i thought someday i'd have to be somebody's wife i didn't know it was optional. is everybody reminding the young girls in their lives that it's optional.
AND SO IS BEING SOMEBODY'S MOTHER‼️
it is about being a woman. hope that helps!
reading comprehension questions for the notes:
is wanting to be a wife and mother a requirement for being a woman?
why might OP be annoyed with replies assuming that this post is about being aroace or transmasc if a woman doesn’t want to be a wife or mother?
are there reasons unrelated to sexuality and romantic interest that might make a woman not want to be a wife or mother?
are there reasons unrelated to gender identity and expression that might make a woman not want to be a wife and mother?
core concept: what is gender essentialism?
is it gender essentialism to imply that all women inherently want to be wives and mothers? could this be what OP is critiquing?
look at the notes OP responds to. is it gender essentialism to imply that being a wife and mother is so affixed to womanhood that to not want to be those things means you’re incapable of sexual/romantic feelings, or not a woman?
what trait are you perpetuating when you assume that women who do not want to be wives and mothers must be aroace or trans? is it gender essentialism?
im scared to ask but what the hell is “the pedophile manifesto” post y'all r talking about.
edit: i see 🥸
in case y'all were wondering where all these recent discourse posts have been coming from (click thru the link).
do not put pedophile apologia on my dash or I'm blocking u. transfems do not have to stick our necks out for these people.
lost 5 followers for being vocal about not supporting pedophiles ♡ i love when the trash takes itself out 😌 anyone else?
blocking reasons include trying to change the subject and redirect the overall conversation away from pedophiles towards the people who are rightfully fed up with this. y'all ain't slick!!! I'm blocking anyone who's even tangentially defending pedophiles right now, don't rb that shit if u haven't seen what brought on these discussions to begin with, and if you've already seen it and are still reblogging all that then unfollow me or wait for me to block you idc. y'all are going too far
she deleted everything lol AHT! AHT! i ain't letting y'all off that easy, screenshots of the full post below the cut. y'all r not gonna delete everything then act like people are just being crazy over nothing
see also:
and:

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Stop leaving lesbians out of your pride posts!
The L is there to highlight the specific struggles of lesbians, to highlight how misogyny and homophobia intersect for lesbians specifically (i’d like to note that bi & pan women also deal with this, but in different ways), how we face a different stigma than gay men. Leaving lesbians out of your pride posts ignores these things and ignores the history of lesbians in the LGBT community. It’s lesbophobic!
Lesbians asking you to stop ignoring us is not us asking for too much. Lesbians asking to be recognized is not asking for special treatment. If you think so, you’re lesbophobic.
Some people are confused about the whole “aces who have sex are still ace” thing, and I understand why that might confuse you, but let me see if I can clear it up for you;
A person who doesn’t like pizza might agree to get pizza for dinner because they know it’s their significant other’s favorite food, and they want to do something nice for their partner.
An asexual might have sex with their significant other because they know they like sex, and they want to do something nice for their partner.
Does that clear things up any?
Every two weeks or so, someone trots out the “Sex is just like food!” thing and it never gets less stupid.
First off, there is no reason for the two of you to have to eat the pizza. If a partner knows you don’t like pizza and asks to have pizza together once a week, they are a fucking asshole. They can have pizza by themselves (so, jerk off) or you can agree that sometimes for dinner they can have dinner with friends and they can have pizza together (open relationship where the partner who wants sex can fuck other people).
Pizza is not an essential need, neither is sex. There are people who might be horny more often, have higher libidos, and in that case–if not having pizza/sex that often makes them sO unhappy–you need to consider that you might be compatible partners. If one partner consistently craves something the other partner does not enjoy and their happiness hinges on having it together, that’s not a happy, healthy relationship. Partners with mismatched libidos can make it work but sometimes they can’t.
If Partner A values sex so much they are expecting it from Partner B who does not like sex, they are putting their own “needs” (read: wants because, again, sex is not a need) over their partners comfort in their own body and wants to use Partner B’s body as a tool to get what they want.
Pizza doesn’t work that way. You don’t need the other partner to eat pizza to enjoy pizza yourself. A more apt comparison would then be expecting your partner to make you pizza, sometimes on a daily/weekly/monthly basis KNOWING they won’t eat/enjoy the pizza themselves. That is selfish and toxic. “Honey, spend significant portions of your time in a hot kitchen, sweating your ass off making food you will never enjoy yourself because I expect it of you.” (Adding to this is misogyny, women are raised to to believe it is their duty to serve men in terms of food and sex, so you cannot easily say “Well, she consented to it, so it’s fine!” Consent in a world where sex is expected and saying no can have violent reactions is more complicated than yes/no.)
Another way pizza isn’t the same as sex is the level of intimacy. No matter how much you enjoy or don’t enjoy a food, it is not intimate and having food (in 99.99% contexts) is not an act of potential violence. Mom made me eat brussel sprouts when I didn’t want to is not the same as my spouse made me have sex when I did not want to. There is no equivalence to be found; eating food you do not like is not rape. “I ordered food and it didn’t taste good” isn’t the same as painful, uncomfortable, or unwanted sex. Sex that doesn’t feel good is infinitely more traumatizing than food that doesn’t taste good.
In fact, enjoyment of sex also depends on factors like attraction and arousal. Literally, a body cannot relax to the point of it being PAINFUL and even tearing if there is no arousal or enjoyment. A tighter vagina is a sign of tension or lack of arousal and can lead to micro-tearing, lack of lube production and therefore even more tearing, and physical and even psychological harm.
Sort of like how eating food that lacks nutritional value all the time will affect you physically and even emotional/mental harm over time. Sex without attraction, arousal, and mutual enjoyment does the same. “Attraction and arousal aren’t the same thing!” is a good argument but arousal without attraction is actually something that happens in coerced sex and isn’t the point you want to be making, lmao. “If I stimulate them enough, they’ll physically respond but won’t find me any more attractive” isn’t a good argument and is in fact very, very horrifying.
Sex is one of the few things that should not be a compromise and should be something mutually and equally enjoyable. Most things should be mutually enjoyable in a relationship but there are some things that can be broken down a bit–if I want the bedroom’s tv to play overwatch for an hour and my partner wants to play a horror game for an hour after that and neither of us enjoys the game our partner is playing, that’s fine. “You’re gonna suck me off and maybe I’ll watch your favorite youtuber with you later” is not.
“But asexuals can still enjoy sex and want sex and have libidos!” Wanting to have sex with someone you like as a person is sexually attraction. This is why most of society does not separate romantic/sexual attraction because like… wanting to have sex with someone is both romantic and sexual attraction. Wanting to fuck someone you really really like is sexual attraction, even if you don’t like them for their looks or whatever.
Also, that makes NO fucking sense in regards to your pizza comparison. “People who don’t crave pizza can enjoy the taste and… crave pizza and want pizza.” What?
Not to mention… ace is an identity. Your relationship to pizza is not. What value does ace have if it doesn’t mean an aversion to sex? Gay means “NOPE! The opposite gender is NOT for me!” Straight means “Naaaaah, the same gender is nooot for me y’all!” What the fuck does ace mean then? What is the boundary of asexual?
If you said you don’t like pizza, people don’t expect you to have fucking pizza, let alone regularly say you want it and that you have it constantly. What the fuck does ace mean you don’t experience sexual attraction but you’re attracted to the idea of having sex?
Not to even mention the idea of sex repulsed aces being told that it’s still healthy to have sex which I guess is comparable to people being lactose intolerant/gluten sensitive/allergic to tomatoes being told that it’s still find to eat pizza with all of those things.
Genuinely, this comparison is dumb as fuck and the only thing it does is illuminate how worthless modern understandings of asexuality are.
tbh my hot take is that a lot of people are obnoxiously weird about feet and its usually not the people that have foot fetishes
guys.
anyone who wears tanktops has an armpit fetish. anyone who wears shorts has a thigh fetish. anyone who doesnt wear gloves has a hand fetish. anyone who breathes has a choking fetish. i cant
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this is the gay agenda and i LOVE it
But what if my GF is a Law Enforcer?
You should break up with her then
but BUT what if you’re gay AND a law enforcer?
then you’re a traitor to the community
What about Captain Holt???

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chucks got a lot of transphobes riled up today so i should probably add: there are infinite genders including no gender at all and no matter how much devils seethe and cry and gnash their teeth this will not change. thats just scientific fact SORRY DEVILS im a doctor
Had a dream that Taylor Swift announced she was doing a "pronoun reveal" and all the annoying swifties were losing their shit for weeks and saying "I told you so" and then Taylor just tweeted "she/her"
Whoever tagged this with "even if 'gaylors' are right they're part of the biggest forced outing campaign of all time so either way it's homophobic" YOUR MIND