Saying that Muslims canât be anti-Semitic because they are semites is like saying the Rwandan genocide wasnât motivated by racism because Hutus and Tutsis are both black.

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Saying that Muslims canât be anti-Semitic because they are semites is like saying the Rwandan genocide wasnât motivated by racism because Hutus and Tutsis are both black.

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âi wouldâve hidden anne frank!â you couldnât even condemn the largest massacre of jews since the holocaust.
I really hate the "Jerusalem is very important to three religions why would Judaism get full control of it" because its only important because thats where the JEWISH TEMPLE was and where the JUDEAN KINGS lived. just because people made religions out of fanficing Judaism means we have to give them equal slices of our own cultural history?
@edithsweetithh as if that can just stay in the tags.
ill be real with u guys i really dont think theres a way to be antizionist without being an antisemite. it requires erasure of jewish history and culture
pattern i've seen
random antisemite trying to get away with harassing people voice: asking this question in good faith 𼺠why do you drink blood? đâ¤ď¸â¨ why are you being mean?! đđ i was asking in good faith đ˘

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"Israel is a terrorist state" when Israel is one of the most terrorism-affected countries in the world.
"Israel is committing genocide" when Jews were the victims of the deadliest genocide ever.
"Israel is an apartheid state" when Israeli Arabs are legally given equal civil and political rights and can vote, stand for political office and have equal access to state courts and services.
"Israel is an illegal occupier" when the Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, Fatimid, Ayyubid caliphates/sultanates occupied Israel for over 500 years.
People love to accuse Jews of things Jews are victims of.
They push Jews out of their societies, brutally oppress us for centuries, massacre us as holiday traditions, force us to assimilate or convert or face death, force us to wear humiliating and identifiable clothing, enslave us, ban us from working jobs, ban us from universities, ban us from building communities, accuse us of well poisonings and plagues and of ritually sacrificing children, they burn us alive, they shoot up our grocery stores and businesses and schools and homes and synagogues, they kidnap us and execute us on camera, they accuse us of murdering their saviors, they strip us of citizenship and property, they beat us for speaking our language, they stab us for wearing our clothes, they slaughter us in the millions, they stand idly by while the slaughter happens, they accuse us of anything horrible they can think of and then they have the NERVE to be upset when we donât want to be ruled by them anymore.
genuinely so funny that i made a post saying "people on tumblr think its more immoral to kill a spider than a jew" and then people with a history of harassing me decided to prove my point
i work in healthcare, in a field with a lot of older patients, in a red state. i also wear a kippah, which means i get quite a few sweet older folks holding my hands and telling me how as christians they have a special love in their heart for the jews. i smile and nod at them, because i understand their good intentions, but the historical irony amuses me quite a bit. because until very recently in history, christians did not in face have a special love in their heart for jews, unless you define âspecial loveâ as âmurderous intentâ lmao
Genuinely wild to me that the left has divorced nazism so far from antisemitism that they say shit like âpunch a naziâ, and in the same breath repeat medieval era antisemitic tropes. All the while not seeing the sheer hypocrisy theyâre exhibiting. You canât claim to hate nazis and be antisemitic (which includes being antizionist)! Sorry!

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Jewish media is jumping into the neo-Bundism vs. Zionism discourse and itâsâŚ.ahistorical.
I donât really care. I care about the gentiles who have decided that any Jew who objects to anti-Semitism in the Palestine Liberation movements is a wrong thinking enemy.
Pretty much all of the Bundism discourse disgusts me. Fucking evaluate the movement within the context of itâs time
Actually I've decided that I'm fascinated by this very specific discourse. It mirrors how shit played out in the 30s and it's kind of like, beautiful performance art but no one realizes what they're reenacting.
I am deeply interested in this take and want to know more but also am afraid of attracting the wrath of the internet. I feel like going âWaaooow⌠đżđżđżâŚ itâs just like my history booksâŚ.đżđżđżâŚâ at this discourse will provoke scary things
I can expand! All the factionalism stems from opposing ideas over how to do Judaism where and when we are. Thatâs what the drama was about in 1930s Poland, and thatâs what the drama is about today. But whatâs fascinating about what Iâm seeing playing out in insta, is that weâre relitigating those 1930s Polish factions through the lens of our own hopes, dreams, anxieties, and fears; and of course, our distorted understandings of the past. Weâre appropriating labels which are anachronistic to our context to attempt to understand our context.
The fundamental issue at stake in 2026 is this: what does it mean to be a Jew in a global context wherein there is a sovereign Jewish nation-state in Eretz Yisrael?
But that was not the question Bundists and and various flavors of Zionists etc were asking in interwar Poland. They were asking: how should we behave as Jews in a nation-state in which we are the unwanted Other.
HuhâŚIâd bet cold hard cash that if you dug through Jewish history youâd find that the factionalism in the 20s and 30s wasnât the first iteration, either. This is pure instinct here, it just feels like such a profoundly Jewish argument that itâs hard to believe that the interwar period was the first time it happened. Though the more I think on it, the more the Haskalah and the 2nd Temple era factionalism seems to fall into this category. Again, gut feeling, no historical analysis here.
All that said, I would say that question you attribute to the interwar periodâhow do we behave as Jews in a nation-state in which we are the unwanted Otherâhas always been the underlying question for this debate in the Diaspora. Thatâs the Jewish side of the Jewish Question. It is undeniably the unspoken part of âwhat does it mean to be a Jew in a global context wherein there is a sovereign Jewish state in Eretz Yisrael,â at least to Diapsora Jewry. If 10/7 had not been accompanied by a shocking spike in antisemitism (not to mention the growing antisemitism of the many years prior), I donât think our community would be fighting like this. We are still being treated as the unwanted Other. The Jewish Question still lays like a yoke on our backs. And that is a HUGE part of the debate over the existence of Israel and the role it plays in Jewish life. For the first time in millennia, we have a guaranteed refuge. And said refuge is run by extremists committing atrocities. What now?
Personally this makes me think about how many people have particular readings of historical events that are trying to anachronistically align historical positions with theirs. Like, in Rabbi Abraham Geiger's Urschrift he's attributing the 2nd Temple Pharisees with being democratic and possibly somewhat Reformers. And that comes from his position on political and Jewish matters at his time. He's one of the first major rabbis of the Reform movement, and attempts at achieving democracy in Germany were a prominent point during his lifetime. But those things weren't really present in the Roman Provincea Judea!
People love looking at their situation and thinking it's completely identical to situations in the past. And there are through lines, there are similarities. Assimilation vs Cultural Conservatism was an issue Judaism faced ever since the first exile, and some basic parts of it didn't change much. But it turns out there's endless nuance within this conversation, with what the context is, with how much you lean into each side and in what ways, and I actually don't think I phrased the two ends of the spectrum right but this is just what they are: two ends of a vast spectrum, that most people are somewhere in the middle of but can still have widely differing opinions.
And then people will start claiming that they're just like the peaceful pharisees who opposed the Great Revolt, while the Zionists are just like the Biryonim, the brutes of Jerusalem (a stance I've seen here, actually! Only once, though, and it was confusing). Or that they are just like the Hasmoneans fighting hellenization, while the secular and/or Reform Jews are the hellenised Jews the Hasmoneans fought against.
There are some through lines, but the conversations aren't really identical. And that's not only true for millennia old debates but to ones from mere 80 years ago, yes. Because the world changed a lot in this time.
Hope I added something to the conversation.
I find it quite ironic that the words that pro pals are happily throwing around such as âgenocideâ, ânever again is never again for everyone, âuntil we are all free, none of us freeâ are phrases all coined by Jews to describe our specific experiences and have fuck all to do with their cause but goys are not ready for this conversation Iâm afraid
A very disturbing number of people on here are like "Yeah, I support Jews! I just refuse to learn anything about Jewish history or culture even when it's extremely relevant to the conversation, I misuse Jewish terminology in the same way people who very openly wanted (or still want) to kill all Jews misused it, and I take everything about supporting or showing sympathy for Jews in bad faith! Antisemites DNI btw lol"
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People say the left and the right canât agree on anything these days? Well, there is this one thing they agree on: hating Israel.
I wish a had a shekel for every time I encounter this;
âActually itâs antisemitic to associate Jews with Israelâ
Is it racist to associate an ethnically Japanese person with Japan???!?!? IS IT??
Would it be okay to say âI donât hate the Japanese but I think Japan should be wiped off the map, but oh no Iâm not racist because I know a few Japanese people who also hate Japanâ???
I wish some people understood how unhinged they really sound.
You donât get to not be antisemitic by magically wiping Jews from Judea in your stupid little head. Thatâs not how this works.
Like at this point if you invest even a shred of interest in the region but donât bother looking up the BASIC (and unbiased!) history youâre just as ignorant as an anti-vaxxer, full stop.
And yes, you can still fight for and support Palestinian rights without denying Jewish history and the right of Israel to exist, but apparently thatâs way too hard for most people.

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Dick, who's filling in for Bruce as Batman: I'll call him
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Hal: you've gained some muscles
Jason, dressed as Nightwing: I started working out
Hal: Damn. What's the routine cause I just saw you last week and you look completely different.
Jason: steroids
Dick, as batman: *chokes on coffee*
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Jason, as Nightwing: ... I don't see why not
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Tim, with 5 inches of padding, as redhood: on it
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Flash: yeah we could use him with this one
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Damian, in red robin costume: he's dead
I donât think you can be an antizionist and not be antisemitic at this point. Yeah- even if youâre a Jew.
Non-Zionist? Sure. But ANTIzionist? Fuck no. Absolutely not. And there is a difference.
Oh and if you claim to be against Zionism because you donât like the idea of any nation state, alright⌠But I better not find you ONLY talking about Israel. Because thatâs antizionist, not just being an anarchist.
Maybe a couple of years ago I would have been more open to discussion but. If you are still an antizionist after everything the fucking movement has done. After how mask off they are. After how blatant it is that the whole thing is a fucking Nazi bar.
Then I have two things to say. To the goyim- this will not assuage your guilt over your own complicity in colonialism. Youâre just doing what your ancestors did and going after Jews for your own gain.
To my fellow Jews. Theyâre not going to fuck you. Theyâre not going to like you. This will not save you. And frankly I am not going to be here to offer you a hand when you figure it out now. Itâs been too long. You have betrayed your people too much.