Irisity8

1) Ulder should've known that his son could never ever do anything wrong, no matter what things looked like,

2) Ulder should've prioritized Wyll's safety over that of the city he runs (nobody ever seems to explain what they think Ulder could DO about Mizora or the pact, or why they think Mizora would let Wyll stay with his dad after she deliberately revealed the pact and made Wyll look bad in order to cause a rift between the two), and

3) when the Ravengards met again, Ulder should've known instantly that Wyll had come to rescue him and been properly grateful instead of initially hostile, despite the whole "got mindfucked two different ways in the last week" thing.

And then on top of that you get a ton of weird interpretations of what's actually in the game. Wyll says he learned about justice and honor and standing up for the little people from Ulder? Nah, not possible. Wyll says he didn't really miss his mom growing up because he and his dad were so close? Obviously not true. Wyll's most harmonious memory is of sword practice with Ulder? Wow, Wyll wants so badly to be a good boy he's actually convinced even HIMSELF his childhood was good.

Like I’m still in the middle of Act 3, but interacting with Ulder I’m just like;

The man obviously prioritizes his responsibilities as the protector of Baldur’s Gate first and foremost and it can definitely attribute to the strain between him and Wyll.

His relationship with Wyll is absolutely a tragedy preyed upon by Mizora and Zariel (who I’m learning had conflict with Ulder due to his involvement with Elturel (much to still learn)) and the politics of being in charge of keeping the city safe, but watching the son you raised be the key for your enemies.

It’s giving the same reading as Gregory and his dad from Abbott Elementary, or even Maribel and her Grandmother in Encanto.

I love learning about about Wyll in this story because of his love for the city and his father, and its so goddamn interesting to see how despite the bullshit circumstances that occur he doesn’t seem to personally hold it against anyone. Like he takes it all and stride and tries his best to keep his head high.

And I knew going into this that the general fandom that they throw him off to the side for favor of other characters. But to hear all that, and then actually get to see his story and how much is bastardized??

1: If Wyll decides to break the pact with Mizora (also you make this choice for him which seems crazy to me imo) you then have an interaction with Counsellor Florrick the next day where she gives you the Wyrm’s rock quest. Now that’s all well and good, but if you then go save Ulder from the Iron Throne before you do the Wyrm’s Rock quest, he just repeats everything Florrick told you (it’s almost IDENTICAL) and the quest doesn’t progress at all. It just feels like an obvious oversight that has never been fixed and it ticks me off when other characters can get fixes in updates but not Wyll.

2. Shadowheart’s parents will have special dialogue with you if you save them while romancing her, but Ulder doesn’t if you’re romancing Wyll. Once again, this is an oversight where you could’ve added more details to their story, but Larian decided it wasn’t important enough.

PROPAGANDA:

[Jonathan]

"Dracula probably has weird vampire pregnancy powers and also all those scenes in Dracula's castle were so weird in a homoerotic way. Either that or Mina gets him pregnant (which good for her, Mina is the best). Jonathan loves his wife very much and he'd love to have her babies."

"I just want him to give birth to Quincey and have a happy life after this whole vampire bullshit."

[Wolfwood]

"Wolfwood loves kids SO fucking much. He'd be an amazing dad, and I truly believe that kids would be one of relatively few ways to save his life in canon. Knock him up already!"