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After finding out that Atlantis is also coming back in Graphic Novel format, I remember a video that explained that there were plans to make a crossover with Atlantis and Gargoyles, and I was right, so here it is, Gargoyles Nation is explaining everything.
I'll be honest, if Greg ever adapts The Last into the Gargoyles comic, I think I'd rather have expies than the actual Atlantis cast.
Weisman has repeatedly said that the two universes are separate, and bringing in Milo, Kida, and the rest would just muddy the waters. We'd be stuck having the same continuity debate for the next twenty years.
Using expies solves almost every problem. Greg could keep Fiona, Demona, the plot, and even Joshua Sweet's narrative function, while creating original Gargoyles-universe adventurers or archaeologists to fill those roles. Then it becomes unquestionably a Gargoyles story instead of a perpetual argument about whether Atlantis is canon to the Gargoyles Universe.
And knowing this fandom, the continuity debate would completely overshadow the actual story. Half the discussion would be about whether Kida and Goliath exist in the same universe instead of Fiona Canmore finally getting some much-deserved spotlight.
I Still Love Marvel. I Just Don't Believe in It Anymore
For most of my life, I was a Marvel Comics reader.
Not a casual reader. Not someone who checked in now and then. Marvel was one of the fictional worlds that helped shape my imagination. Spider-Man, the X-Men, the Fantastic Four, the Avengers, Daredevil. I loved those characters, but more than that, I loved the sense that they all inhabited the same living, breathing universe. It felt like a world. Events mattered. Actions had consequences. Characters grew older, changed, and carried the weight of their histories with them.
The funny thing is that I can pinpoint the first crack in that illusion long before I understood what I was seeing.
For me, it starts in 1991. Now, if you look at the numbers, that sounds ridiculous. X-Men #1 by Jim Lee is one of the highest-selling comic books of all time. The X-Men were on top of the world. Marvel was making money hand over fist. Most fans at the time were celebrating. But even as a kid, something felt off. I didn't have the vocabulary for it then. I couldn't have told you what editorial influence was. I couldn't have explained the significance of Chris Claremont being forced off the book. All I knew was that the X-Men suddenly felt different. Looking back, I think that was the first time I became aware, even subconsciously, that forces outside the story were shaping the story.
The second major crack came with Onslaught. Again, I enjoyed parts of it. There were good moments. There were exciting moments. But I could feel the hand of editorial all over the event. The story wasn't simply unfolding because these characters had arrived at a particular place. The story felt designed to move pieces around the board. Then came Heroes Reborn and later Heroes Return, and the illusion weakened even further because it became harder to ignore the feeling that publishing initiatives were driving the narrative rather than the narrative driving the publishing initiatives.
Ironically, the Clone Saga didn't bother me nearly as much as it bothered many fans. The Clone Saga was a mess. It went on too long. It clearly suffered from behind-the-scenes interference. But for most of it, Peter Parker still felt like Peter Parker. The characters largely reacted to events in ways that made sense for who they were. When Norman Osborn finally returned, I remember thinking that the ending actually worked. The pieces fit together. Whatever flaws the story had, I still believed that the characters themselves were driving the action.
Then came the Mackie and Byrne Spider-Man reboot. That was the first time I actually walked away from a Marvel title. I eventually returned because of J. Michael Straczynski's run, which reminded me why I loved Spider-Man in the first place. Peter Parker felt like a human being again. The stories felt grounded in character. The book wasn't perfect, but it felt like Spider-Man.
By then, however, we were firmly in the Quesada era. This was also the period when I began noticing something else that increasingly bothered me. Continuity and canon felt optional. Now, I know some people roll their eyes when fans talk about continuity. They think we're arguing over trivia or obsessing over details that don't matter. But continuity matters because it creates the illusion that actions have consequences. It creates the sense that the world exists beyond the current story arc. It allows readers to believe that today's stories are built on yesterday's stories and that tomorrow's stories will have to live with what happened today.
Marvel increasingly felt less interested in preserving that illusion.
The poster child for this, at least for me, was Avengers Disassembled. I hated that story. Not because bad things happened. Bad things should happen. Tragedy is part of storytelling. What bothered me was that the characters increasingly felt like they were being bent to serve a predetermined outcome. The story needed the Avengers to break apart, so the characters were pushed into positions that would accomplish that goal. The event came first and the characters came second, and once I noticed that, it became increasingly difficult not to see it elsewhere.
I followed New Avengers for a while because I genuinely liked parts of it. But it never really felt like the Avengers to me. It felt like Marvel looked over at the Justice League and decided that every major character should be on the team at the same time. The book had energy, and there were certainly stories I enjoyed, but it represented another step away from the Marvel Universe I had grown up with.
Then came One More Day, and for me, that was the breaking point. I've heard every argument in its defense over the years. I've heard people argue that Peter Parker works better when he's single. I've heard people argue that the marriage aged the character. I've heard people argue that the book became more accessible afterward. None of those arguments address my actual problem with the story.
The problem isn't that Peter and Mary Jane broke up. The problem is why they broke up. Their marriage wasn't ended because the characters reached a natural crossroads. It wasn't ended because years of storytelling led to an inevitable conclusion. It wasn't ended because Peter and Mary Jane made choices that logically destroyed their relationship. It was ended because editorial wanted an unmarried Spider-Man. The desired status quo came first, and the story was built afterward to justify it.
Once that happened, something fundamental broke for me. I didn't quit Marvel overnight. There were still books I enjoyed. There were still writers whose work I followed. There were still characters I loved. But I stopped believing in the world, and that more than anything else is what ultimately drove me away.
Over time the events became larger, the shock value became more aggressive, and characters increasingly felt bent to fit story concepts rather than stories emerging from who those characters were. Then the movies became successful, and the comics often felt pressured to create synergy with whatever was happening on the screen. Costumes changed. Status quos shifted. Entire corners of the universe sometimes felt like they were being reshaped to resemble adaptations rather than standing on their own.
Everything felt managed. Everything felt artificial. The Marvel Universe that I fell in love with felt like a place, while the Marvel Universe I eventually left felt like a product. That's not to say Marvel hasn't published great comics since then. It absolutely has. There are talented writers and artists working there right now. There are stories that I still hear wonderful things about, and every now and then I'll pick something up and be reminded of why I loved these characters in the first place.
But my relationship with Marvel changed. I still love Spider-Man. I still love the X-Men. I still love the Fantastic Four. I still love that world and those characters. The problem is that I no longer believe in the world itself, and once that illusion is gone, it's very hard to get it back.
Screw The Simpsons, the TMNT predicted everything!
God someone tell me this is a joke!!! Seriously people? Just friends?
My cutie pies! How is this possible?
Since Awakening part 3 it was there! The spark so bright and clear!
This is from:
https://www.gargwiki.net/Misconceptions_and_urban_legends_about_Gargoyles
I was there when this was aired the first time! Absolutely not AI, not false and meant to be from the beginning
I'll get back to this later, but God I can even begin to address what this type of misconception is!

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As Alexander Fox Xanatos begins his first magical lesson, weâre joined by the younger generation of the Gargoyles family: Greg Weismanâs children, Erin and Benny Weisman, along with Jenniferâs daughter, Stephanie Scoggins. Together, we discuss what it was like growing up in the home of the creator of the series and one of its most prominent fans. We explore the impact Gargoyles had on them, the impressions it left behind, and the other passions and interests the series may have inspired along the way.
As the countdown to âHunterâs Moonâ continues, we also dive into âPossession,â featuring the return of Coldstone and the introductions of Coldfire and Coldsteel. We discuss the structure and writing of trickster stories, and the performances of Bill Fagerbakke, Brigitte Bako, and Jeff Bennett as they work alongside Michael Dorn, C.C.H. Pounder, and Xander Berkeley to portray characters under magical possession. We also examine the collision of Othello with A Midsummer Nightâs Dream, and much more.
We also share our First Impressions of Gargoyles Meets Darkwing Duck #4. Spoilers run from 0:50 through 10:00.
Available on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Audible, Spotify, and your podcatcher of choice! And join us on Patreon for the Exclusive Video Edition!Â
Follow us on Twitter at:Â @FromEyrie Follow us on Bluesky at:Â @GargoylesPodcast Follow us on Instagram at:Â gargoylesvoices Visit Jennifer L. Andersonâs online stores at:Â Angel Wings and Demon Tails Visit Greg Weisman at:Â Ask Greg Everything you ever wanted to know about Gargoyles at:Â GargWiki
a talking point i often see when defending the consumption of dark content is that itâs a coping mechanism for those with trauma which is very valid and true but i also want to make this abundantly clear: you can like dark content for no reason. you can enjoy fucked up shit in fiction because itâs enjoyable and entertaining. trauma is not required as a ticket for entry. enjoy your dark content bc itâs fun and sexy and donât let anyone take that away from you
sometimes the reason is this
reblog if you love to see that shit that was fucking crazy
SMOKED SALMON IS THE ONLY THING THAT NUMBS THE PAIN
Confirmed.
The titular Gargoyles only have eggs every 20 years, and the Manhattan Clan at the center of the saga have been keeping care of one playfully nicknamed "Egwardo." The only problem is â it's been stolen by arch-enemy Demona! As the Defenders of the Night try desperately to track down the egg, they're also faced with an awakened ancient, all-powerful evil with a vendetta against the entire world. All that and more can be expected each and every month in this new blockbuster series.
Itâs like Demona herself is taunting the fans.
Will the Manhattan Clan recover Egwardo, or will the egg hatch and be raised and indoctrinated by Demona?
And just what is this ancient evil?
We canât wait to find out.
August, 2026! Go pre-order it at your local comic book store!
I'm pretty sure the alphabet toss is one of the few still up on Tumblr somewhere but for those that have never seen it, here it is as 'The moment of zen' at the end of todays Daily Show.
Stewbert really is forever đđ
Someone asked me whether I could put all the tosses up here. Im thinking about it.

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Star Wars bros looking at a character being gay and going âugh, Disneyâ is so funny to me because likeâŚwhat the fuck? You think Disney did that? You think Disney is the reason thereâs a lesbian couple in the Acolyte? You think Disney is the reason Obi Wan was confirmed bisexual? Buddy look at the cut trans storyline from Win or Lose, look at how every gay kiss in their movies happens in the background or very quickly so they can cut it overseas, look at the video where Alex Hirsch reveals actual emails he got from Disney trying to censor Gravity Falls for the stupidest reasons, and then TRY and tell me that you think Disney is the reason thereâs gay people in Star Wars now.
Disney's Gargoyles gets a new ongoing series with Greg Weisman and Gerardo Gambone in August 2026 from Dynamite Entertainment
Finally!
Who is you favorite woman in transformerâs media and why?
Airazor. She was adorable and deserved better.
Animated Blackarachnia.
Delightfully creepy, a tragic backstory, pushing further into villainy than her namesake, and Cree Summer is a legend.
Periodic reminder that you are not immune to reactionary radicalization through fandom.
We all know the âjokesâ about how old bronies either came out as queer or became fascists - except theyâre not really jokes, and a lot of the queer ones admit to having been in the pipeline before they came out (some in a way that implies they never totally got out of said pipeline and donât understand the gravity of it),
GamerGate was an entire right-wing reactionary movement that was - and this is not hyperbole - partially responsible for turning fascism into a âlegitimateâ position by the American Overton window, composed entirely of people who feared losing their fan spaces,
Weâve had terfs right here on tumblr dot com BRAGGING about how useful fandom is as a recruiting space,
TJLC was a big pipeline for acephobia on this hellsite in particular, when people argued that headcanoning Sherlock as ace was inherently homophobic because it was denying a TOTALLY GONNA BE CANON (while the creators were promising that it wasnât going to be canon) gay pairing, and puritanical, and just HAVING that headcanon was saying that people COULDNâT ship Johnlock, all in the interest of a âfakeâ sexuality and âpretending to be oppressedâ and oh whoops there you went,
We see people who all but center their fandom activity and identities around figuring out which people in predominantly queer fandom spaces are SECRETLY PEDOPHILES AND GROOMERS, acting consciously or otherwise under the assumption that predominantly queer fandom spaces are just massively infested with them in a way that other spaces are not for SOME reason, who twist the definition of âpedophiliaâ in these spaces until it covers shipping a 17-year old fictional character with an 18-year old fictional character, or a 30-year old with a 45-year old, or including an autistic character in a ship, and drawing two 17-year old characters kissing constitutes âchild pornâ, and who unironically say we should bring back the Hays Code and Censorship Is Good Actually And Our Problem Is We Donât Do It Enough and this often becomes a pipeline to âsex ed is child abuse; people shouldnât even know what sex is until they turn 18; you need my consent to wear certain outfits in public if I see them as sexually charged, and Pride SHOULD be an assimilationist sideshow for our corporate overlords family-friendly party with no sadness or anger or ESPECIALLY acknowledgement of sex allowedâ,
Weâve seen otherwise progressive people defend literal hate symbols in fanart when pushback against the above brand of reactionaries gets corrupted into zero-nuance âitâs us vs. them so anything they donât like is Goodâ,
Even outside of those examples some of the most vicious, unapologetic, blatant queerphobic abuse Iâve seen in recent years hasnât come from right-wingers but from LGBT+ people, dressing their deep, violent, seething hatred for queer people who arenât exactly like them in a thin veneer of progressive language, who have become so convinced that theyâre the main character of the fucking universe that they think writing or enjoying a queer story that doesnât resonate with them is more queerphobic than sending a queer person who writes or enjoys such a story countless rape and death threats and denying their identity,
Weâve seen these examples again and again and again, and we keep seeing it again and again and again, so I am once again on my knees BEGGING people to recognize that this is not Something That Happens To Other, BAD People, or Something That Happens To People In BAD Fandoms, or Something That Happens To People On The OTHER Side Of Perennial Drama; this is something that CAN happen to you.
These things are the result of the fact that fandom is, by nature, a place of heightened emotion and if you donât know what to look out for that is very exploitable; you need to know the methods people use to do this, simply Being In The Right Fandoms or Liking The Right Ships is not enough.
So, if you see someone trying to convince you that you have the ONLY valid approach to any specific character, or ship, or show, or whatever, that your ship is activism and your fanfics are praxis, and liking something else or liking the same thing differently is Only For Bad People, that is the single biggest red flag that YOU NEED TO RUN, THEYâRE TRYING TO SELL YOU SOMETHING THAT YOU DO NOT WANT
Seeing people reblog this with mile-long DNI pages that talk about about âirredeemable mediaâ and âyouâre a pedophile if you like XYZ mainstream piece of media and I hate youâ and âif you like these things that are bad irl happening in fiction in any context thatâs apologism for them in reality and you should be ashamedâ and âif youâre okay with consenting adults having weird sex and talking about weird sex with other consenting adults and putting weird sex in appropriately tagged fanfics that means you support rape and pedophilia and bestiality and incest and youâre evilâ and âterfs and exclusionists and gatekeepers gtfo BUT combination labels arenât valid and trans men arenât really oppressed beyond collateral damage and fuck off if you think they are lolâ and doing the biggest facepalm of my life like
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So I sincerely hope, if youâre one of those people reblogging this, youâre taking it as a call to seriously reflect on those beliefs and how you came to hold them, and not just sitting there smugly thinking that when I said âYOU are not immune to thisâ I meant âYOUR FOLLOWERS may not be immune to this, but YOU are, oh great and glorious Knower of Pure from Irredeemable, holder of the True Correct Media Opinionsâ
Letâs simplify it a bit: No one is immune to doing evil, period. Always reflect on what you are doing and saying and why. Becoming complacent, thinking that youâre a âgood personâ and thus can only do âgood thingsâ is the fast-lane to the worst kind of evil: that which tries to justify itself as good.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions, indeed.

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The voice of Angela, Brigitte Bako, returns alongside Series Creator Greg Weisman as we dive into this pivotal episode of Gargoyles: âThe Reckoningâ!
We discuss Brigitteâs move to New York and how her own family background helped her connect with Angela as a character. We explore Angela finally meeting Demona and her desperate desire to love her biological mother despite the harsh reality of who Demona truly is. We break down some of the episodeâs incredible dialogue (including Fangâs unforgettable one-liners), and discuss why Demona ultimately does the right thing here⌠and why that still doesnât redeem her in the way many other shows might have tried to frame it.
And for fans who have long questioned why the Manhattan Clan briefly considered that Demona may have perished despite knowing about her immortality, we tackle that as well.
We also catch up with Brigitte about what sheâs been up to, including her award-winning podcast, Lies My Vagina Told Me, where the show has been, whatâs next for it, and her ongoing connection to the Gargoyles fandom â including the guest appearances from Greg Weisman and Thom Adcox-Hernandez on her show.
This episode gets a little raunchy, so mature listeners â and immature listeners â are all welcome.
We also share our First Impressions of Gargoyles Meets Darkwing Duck #3. Spoilers run from 0:55 to 6:40.
Available on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Audible, Spotify, and your podcatcher of choice! And join us on Patreon for the Exclusive Video Edition!Â
Follow us on Twitter at: @FromEyrie Follow us on Bluesky at: @GargoylesPodcast Follow us on Instagram at: gargoylesvoices Visit Jennifer L. Andersonâs online stores at: Angel Wings and Demon Tails Visit Greg Weisman at: Ask Greg Everything you ever wanted to know about Gargoyles at: GargWiki Visit Brigitte Bako on Instagram at: theofficialbrigittebako And check out âLies My Vagina Told Meâ
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