this isnt even the full thread, there are even MORE tweets to this thread that i think are really necessary to read if you do what op is talking about! it is not enough to know that feeling this way hurts the people you love, we already know that.
this rest of the thread continues after the third tweet from the reblog.
like THE FULL THREAD is genuinely so reassuring.
sometimes, it is not enough to just know, sometimes you might need that reassurance of "do you really think of me when i'm away?" and someone reassuring you that yeah, they do. and evaluate that! trust that! just like op did.
and then learning that ykw, it's NOT any of my business really. and finding comfort in that trust that like. whether they are or aren't thinking of me, they really do love me.
this full thread changed my life and i am ALWAYS going to give the full thread because the parts people cut out aren't enough for the people experiencing these things, speaking as someone who does. it, really it just makes us, made me, feel bad about my own capabilities when i saw the unfinished thread.
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Gotta tell you guys something wild in the Chinese fan sphere
So some fanartist drew a “sexy” (read: booby) version of a (cartoon) character who is traditionally very non-sexualised. Fans of the character got mad about it because it’s kind of groundbreaking how that character is written and portrayed and this art totally ignores the entire point of the character. They demanded the art be deleted. In response to that other people said, well what the fanartist did may be distateful but they have every right to draw what they’re into. The two sides fight for days and each starts a harassment campaign and even report their “opponents’” accounts.
So far so typical. But things eventually come to a head and they decide that this will be settled by votes - not through a poll. Through donations to a children’s education charity via each side’s portal. Whoever can get the highest amount of donation wins.
And that is how this charity received over 1 million in donations in three days lol. Oh btw the “freedom of expression” side won by a landslide (960k to 40k)
The designs belong to @sebbyisland ! I haven’t had this much fun drawing something in a while (and also I couldn’t draw cuz of busy), so ty for the inspiration
Apparently drawing muppets is like super fun?? So of course I had to make Hikaru and Karashi
I think I’ve figured out how homophobia works. It’s like when Nathaniel Hawthorne flips out over an evil plant.
To give some context for what I’m talking about, most authors have a greater or lesser ability to set aside their prior knowledge and precisely depict something they’ve seen, without adding in things that it obviously “must” be. Even if they don’t understand why something happened, they can accurately portray the fact that it happened and the way in which it happened. Terry Pratchett calls this “first sight” and waxes poetic about it, while Meg Cabot calls it “painting what you see, not what you know.” Charles Dickens is the grandmaster who shows everyone else how it ought to be done. And Nathaniel Hawthorne, as it so happens, is worse at it than any “classic” writer I’ve ever seen. Everything he writes about is filtered through the perspective of “What does my religion say about this?”, and if the things his religion says are different from the things you could see if you used your eyes, then his religion takes priority.
There’s a bit in Rappaccini’s Daughter where Hawthorne needs to describe the physical characteristics of an artificially bred plant. A normal person would describe this plant as beautiful, but Hawthorne knows that God doesn’t want us artificially breeding plants, so the existence of this plant must be a sin, and sins can’t be beautiful. Therefore, he informs the reader that the plant is “glowing with an evil mockery of beauty.” The plant, meanwhile, continues to be a plant, which can’t be good or evil unless they sing and/or eat people.
In a similar vein, a homophobe looks at a gay guy who’s talking about his husband, and evaluates based on what God wants. A heterosexual man talking about his spouse could be delivering a cute anecdote, but homosexuality is a sin, and anecdotes about sins can’t be cute. Therefore, the only possibility is that the gay guy is intentionally mocking straight people with a twisted parody of romantic cuteness.
I’ve never heard this directly stated, but it explains so much about the way homophobes act when gay people talk about their relationships. It’s not that they’re flipping out at gay people acting cute. It’s that they treat a gay person who’s acting cute exactly the same as a gay person who’s mocking them, because the two actions are one and the same in their eyes.
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I really liked the commentary in akane banashi's episode 11 so I transcribed all the parts that were my favorite because of how applicable they are to writing literature too ✨
"The more I listen, the more the scene comes to life and the more that girl seems to vanish from stage."
"As long as you make the audience think you're good, you're second-rate. That's what they always used to say. Because the listeners are so focused on the story, it feels like the performer has disappeared. I've experienced that illusion on rare occasions, during a master's performance, but who would've thought I'd feel it at the Karaku cup?"
"I thought it would backfire on her. Most of them can preform 'Jugemu.' So they're discerning. It won't be easy to get laughs from an audience like that. Though you could say that it's easy to envision precisely because it's so familiar."
"Ever since she was a little kid, she could instantly master whatever I taught her. But you see . . . because it's too easy for her, she lacks one thing. Awareness of how to empathize with her character's feelings. Because even with a scant understanding of the characters, Akane can handle them reasonably well. But at the end of the day, that kind of art is hollow and superficial. It can't move people's souls. To become, and think as the characters you're playing. Perspective. That's what I wanted her to learn."
"Now where did the Karaku Cup's usual fervor go? This is no longer a venue to vie for technical supremacy. It's a place to enjoy listening to stories. Actually, I should probably give her credit for this transformation. The more you exert yourself to preform, to express something, the more your presence as a performer expands. By considering your character's perspective and understanding it, you gradually learn how act as that person in the most natural way, without having to rely on over-the-top expressions or technical skills. Until the performer's presence vanishes in a subtle, natural manner."
"Oh crap! I was supposed to write an article on this, but I just sat and listened!"
I feel like there's a pressure to be really good at technical skills in creative writing, like having a massive vocabulary or an expert grasp on grammar- but stories can move people emotionally even without all that. Writing is about the characters themselves and bringing them to life in the narrative. Historically that was not always the focus, of course, however in the modern day with character driven stories being the expectation it's essential to grasp that as an aspect readers are looking for. Especially as a foothold, even if it's not a primary focus.
This is most obviously true through narration and dialogue, where an authors characters all talk more or less the same and you can't spot the differences when you take away the dialogue tags. This makes it difficult to follow and it wastes an opportunity to flesh out the narrative. So long as characters all sound like a product of "the author" it will continue to sound like a story. Which will prevent the falling away effect of a skilled author presenting something vividly real by removing their presence from the narrative.
I think creative writing ethos in academia is often taught skill-forwards, and is actively destructive to the good habits someone can build for character driven narratives (i.e. breaking rules, like a character speaking without "correct" grammar that's more accurate to spoken language). It has no concern or consideration for connecting to the audience or having a good grasp of people. Without those things though, the story ends up trite and shallow. There's no amount of plot complexity or beauty in prose that can disguise a lack of compelling characters.
the great thing about the wuxia genre is you can start a sect called the Evil Blood Cult in a place called Demon Mountain that’s a volcano full of poison and you all wear crazy gothic black and red hanfu and practice Sinister Backstabber Style kung fu and like. that’s not a deterrent to prospective disciples. do all that and a fuckton of bright eyed youngsters will still show up at your door and say hello i would like to join the demon mountain evil blood cult where do i sign up?
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Ok folks (shoutout @watanuki-chihiro) have talked abt how God of Death Duel Duet (G3D) parallels the Zenza Rensekai, and that got me thinking. Can we talk about Akane’s convo with Kaisei after losing? Because this scene was way more fucking loaded than any of us expected I think. Considering recent events.
like off the top of my head there’s
”The stage really isn’t the place to go searching for yourself” this is actually the most ironic thing homie could have said😭😭😭😭😭he didn’t know guys he didn’t knowwww
“I only encouraged her to perform at the Isshokai for my own goals” way back when, kaisei was actually the one to encourage her to participate in the selection event hmmm but that wasn’t for your own goals now was it? He did all that because that’s his fave kouhai lmao.
“I’m kinda in an hurry” and then proceeds to extend the conversation unprompted…..There’s this imagery of her chasing his back as he walks forward. But brother you are inventing reasons to look back 😭like we get it she’s your favorite kouhai and you see yourself in her we get it….
“It’s a real shame” is crazy bc from Akane’s perspective at the time, the words just remind her of her failure. She literally starts crying afterwards. But Kaisei was speaking genuinely. He would’ve liked to perform with her (as her senior lollll not as the underdog), AND it’s a shame she didn’t win with her Dad’s art, “the second half wasn’t bad.” He’s speaking to both points. This is kinda wild when we remember he’s a student of Issho.
An ISSHO OPINION would completely toss Akane’s performance at the Rensekai aside! “How can the Arakawa school entrust someone who doesn’t believe in his own art”Unlike Issho, Kaisei sees the worth in Akane’s “weakness,” and by extension Shinta’s weakness, and acknowledges it as such.
His behavior here reminds me a lot of how he acts at the start of the Isshokai. He empathizes with Akane’s fired up shonen protag mentality, but regretfully has to inform her that this event isn’t about their rivalry. It’s about rubbing elbows with rich people who barely even value rakugo as an art, as much as they do the idea of accessing the exclusive Issho Arakawa performance. Just like when he talked to Akane then, he all but admits how “It’s a real shame.”
It’s a real shame these people don’t really care about rakugo. It’s a real shame this event is all about Issho and the rest of them are just a fun side-piece, never quite able to leave his shadow. It’s a damn shame, but that’s how it is. How it always is.
Over and over, what Kaisei thinks is appropriate for rakugo, does not align with how he feels about rakugo. Kaisei has been showing signs of disagreeing with Issho’s ideals/methods. The conduit for all that was and is Akane.
Essentially, Kaisei is taking everything he felt regarding Akane’s “weakness” back then, and now redirecting that energy towards his own art.
This is all very nice to see come together. While Akane has been set up to follow her Master’s legacy despite coming into rakugo for o other reasons (though her dad admits Akane would have become a rakugoka regardless of if he made it to Shin’uchi), Kaisei has been set up to reject his Master’s legacy despite coming to rakugo specifically to be like Issho.
^^This is so funny now we literally had him admit he always felt like Akane might be able to understand him. And is another example of him using Issho’s ideals as a mask for his true feelings. “I’m not interested in you” after he basically channeled all his jealousy around Rokuro and Akane into his horror performance…..Most repressed man you’ve ever seen….no wonder he is Like That.
I’m also curious about his deeper opinions on Shiguma and Shiguma’s art. Pre-heartbreak Kaisei kept insisting he didn’t care and wouldn’t mind if Akane learned Shiguma’s Art, but since failing his Shin’uchi exam, it’s a lot more personal. He “can’t forgive” Shiguma’s Art, because of how it impacts his Master, but like, Issho is a grown man. Isn’t it actually that he can’t forgive Issho and doesn’t know where to direct all his feelings, because he is still ultimately playing his games by helping him with the Isshokai and what not??? The same Isshokai where he is resigned to be a show pony??? Hmm.
We don’t always get a lot of Kaisei scenes but what we do get…always seems to have a bunch of other sub plots attached I suppose. He’s a fun character to chew on.
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Here's some of the notes, starting with the things multiple people brought up:
SHRIMP COCKTAIL:
banahbanah: #flashback to that one fic where Peter Parker frets about drinking shrimp cocktail because of the alcohol
generaldeliciousness: adding: what a prawn/shrimp cocktail is
#why is your character turning it down because they're under 21 #do you think prawn cocktail is a cocktail #this lives in my brain rent-free constantly #the rest of the fic was so normal #and good enough that i'll still re-read it #but bro
And then many, MANY, people wondering if this was actually authour mistake, since Peter really would do this!
POMEGRANATES:
zhajhassa: #haha where's that post that was like someone describing someone eating a pomegranate but they ate it like an apple
thornhands: #once someone wrote persephone biting into a whole Pomegranate #had to stop and stare at a wall for a minute
sungsingsanguine: I once saw someone very confidently write about a character eating slices of pomegranate.
FRUIT TREES:
zagreuses-toast: #given a very endearing glimpse into a writers blindspots by seeing them describe someone sitting under a ''pineapple tree''
salatrash: I remember something about picking watermelons... OF A FUCKING TREE
baander: #cranberry trees
DOUGH/BATTER:
maycelium: #I'm a chef so I'm really used to people not accurately describing how to cook food #But I was surprisingly flabbergasted when someone was writing making a cake and was kneading it. Which uh #Not necessary for cake. It was interesting for sure but just bizarre
livebloggingmydescentintomadness: #the one that drove me nuts was when a character set aside a batch of PASTA DOUGH 'to rise' #pasta doesn't have yeast!! #it does need to REST but it will never RISE #you do not want an airy crumb on your noodles
lovesodeepandwideandwell: #THE ONE WHERE THEY MADE COOKIES BY LADLING BATTER INTO A TRAY
Some other topics:
ANIMALS:
catenarwhal: #mandatory 'how cows produce milk' mention#i'll never recover from that one I fear
piromantic: #one time i saw someone fake their way through describing how spiders behave
pluto-lichen: horses
misskittypotter: #stardew valley faking its way through what fresh fish smell like
pa-pa-plasma: #saw someone faking their way through knowing what a seal is once #i still am fucked up over that one to this day. they just straight up did not know #& they were NOT good at guessing it either like it was clear they had never googled that animal ever #& was only just now realizing via answering questions from anons that seals are not!! what they assumed. initially
SEX:
dykevandyke: #what a prostate is #and where it is located #as in. external.
dreamyeyedrose: #I remember back in the ff.net days reading an Ichigo/Renji fic where the writer assumed the penises go inside each other #and I was like “I mean I don't know how it works for sure I don't have one but idk if that's how it works”
SOME OTHER FOOD STUFF:
thetrekkiehasthephonebox: #add another one to the list bloggers#this character is cooking a salad
shosta: #still baffled about the published work that didn't know food could freeze
sun-dari: #once i read a fic where the author didn't understand cinnamon
alto-tenure: #read something recently where the author was just. blatantly wrong about spices
dramatic-dolphin: #i saw someone try to fake their way through what ramen is once. like 14 years ago.#but i remember.#i was very confused about ramen for a few months. they were writing it so authoritatively.
the-celery-stalks-at-midnight: #i will never ever forget someone putting leftover fries in the microwave to reheat them and setting the timer for five minutes
typeghost: #this sparked a memory of a hannibal fic where the author had to fake their way through writing about gravy
draculin: #the one fanfic where the author knows about coffee only as a concept wrote a character as a coffee drinker#was very interesting#I don't remember the fandom or the plot but I was mesmerized by the coffee actions and choices
11235811235811: #there's a lot of faking their way thru congee in the svsss fandom i'll also note
fishali3n: #read one where the person clearly didnt know what tofu is
emmy-everafter: #in the aftermath of shadow and bone s2 i saw a lot of people pretending to know what stroopwafels are #babes they are more like cookies than breakfast waffles #like yes there is a waffle pattern but you're not gonna cut into a stack of them with syrup and sugar#🤣🤣🤣
NON-FOOD STUFF:
red-umbrella-811: Shoutout to Dame Agatha Christie for faking her way through what a wrench is in a very popular published work.
bluebeetle: #once saw someone have a character put an entire phone book in their pocket
nonametis: #- sex talk in languages other than english #<- or just the petnames in a different language other than English
sadisticpony: #the fanfiction i saw this week where op DIDNT KNOW HOW AUTOMATIC DOORS WORKED #and that they arent in peoples homes!!! of course. also opening the automatic door for someone is unironically very funny but its not #its not like. grabbing the door handle to let someone in. helpppp
danmeichael: #reminds me of the fic with the figure drawing class where the character started with the feet. #i love you feet first figure drawing author
meowmix1100blr: #me watching this one fic absolutely obliterate what the board of directors does
vexedhexes: #one time i read an architect character making a doorway bigger by building a bigger door #what a beautiful world. #OH. also gravity falls fic where they go 'oh piedmont is in california so its warm all year round'
leveragehunters: #characters going to a beer garden #And it's literally a garden outside the pub#It was a very cute mistake
fitofpique: #yes! #grown men do not get blind drunk off two beers #but i am possibly guilty of the hypothermia one #assuming it does not make you very horny?
dadvans-likes: #always thinking abt the soup kitchen fic #the entire setting of the fic was 'soup kitchen' #and i very quickly realized #the author did not know what a soup kitchen was #and they thought that soup kitchens only served soup #fic
msmargaretmurry: #i love fanfiction #once read a fic where the characters played 20 questions #but the author seemed to not know how to play 20 questions and was just kind of winging it........ #immaculate
shakespeareaddict: #Look I know not all of us are hockey experts #But it takes about ten seconds of research or any attention paid to the show to realize #That the Stanley cup playoffs are not in fucking September
baejax-the-great: #the funniest one i saw #was someone faking what church is like #like 1. they really didn't have to write an entire church experience for their fic #and 2. they had clearly never even watched a show where people went to church #it was bonkers weird
twosunson: #things ive seen authors faking #knowing how to unclog a drain #knowing. literally any history #knowing what ketamine looks like (apparently- oregano) #(you know who you are)
waterhorseyblues-ao3: #beltane being celebrated in winter #wales being portrayed as a completely separated land from england (i wish) #characters getting up after weeks of bedrest like that dosnt completely fuck you up
violetfairydust: #i once read a fic where the flight time from london to seattle was 3 hours
purekesseltrash: One time, in a fic set specifically in Des Moines, IA, two of the characters casually drove 20 minutes to the ocean. The memory continues to delight me. I want to know where that author thought that Iowa was.
