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staying up really late is comforting. the world stops expecting things from you. itās just quiet for a while.

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Iām trying to look for synonyms of sneer and iām fucking dying
yeah that looks normal⦠yeah these are allā um. hold on. hang on.
what
DESPITE EVERYTHING
ITāS STILL YOU.
Being in this fandom is sometimes embarrassing, itās like telling someone to be cool around someone and then they start foaming at the mouth and punching walls, like⦠WHAT ARE YOY DOING???

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u lie down and its like (⢠) ( ā¢) and thats just how it is
You lie on your side and itās just (ā¢)(⢠)
what kind of eyes do yāall haveĀ
they should allow you to report posts for being gauche or passƩ
STRAIGHT UP TURNED INTO AM
SO. THAT NEW EPISODE, HUH?
You know I had to do it COME ONNNN

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I'm ok
"You just...don't...LISTEN!"
I was wondering why this line, more than any other insult, seemed to break Caine and send him into a full meltdown.
But the way the two were positioned reminded me of this scene, earlier in the episode. This is the only time we see Scratch, who we now know helped program/create Caine.
Go back and watch closely when Scratch speaks.
Because I swear that right here, he says,
"Don't you know who I am?"
And then,
"Hey, are you listening, Caine?!"
Maybe Caine did have something to do with Scratch's abstraction, and before then, Scratch really confronted Caine like Pomni did here. Maybe Scratch laid it all out; he was one of Caine's creators, and Caine had to listen to him and let the humans out of the program. And Caine couldn't, or wouldn't, do that.
His tone of voice here... we've never heard it from Jax before. It was a little softer, higher-pitched. Younger. It felt like we were seeing through his snarky facade.
Him hearing Kinger talk about his past, about programming Caine... that seems to have convinced him that the circus is "real". I think he believed, before this, that it was all a hallucination or dream or something on his part. That it was all in his head, and that all the other people were just figments of his imagination. It'd certainly explain his cruelty to others in the past.
I can't even fault him for that assumption, it's no crazier than reality, and it's a whole lot simpler.
I hope the others find out about this, if I'm right. I'd love to see their reaction to finding out that a lot of why Jax was such an asshole to them was simply because he thought they weren't real.
I just watched the episode and ran here as fast as I could, HE MADE A I HAVE NO MOUTH BUT I MUST SCREAM REFERENCE, TWICE!!!
THERE WERE SO MANY PARALLELS !! even the punishments caine was giving them somewhat match those in the ihnmaims game?? and its crazy because each character of the circus could TOTALLY fit into the archetypes of the humans AM is keeping alive. Jax is totally set up to be like ted?? im WORRIED you guys š„¹
This must have been the most cathartic experience any of them has ever experienced since day one of waking up in this digital nightmare.

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TADC Episode 8 Intro (aka the story of 2 AIs)
The visual representation of Caineās origins and also linking back to the origins of the red/blue symbolism that perpetuated this show:
AI 1 (Caine) was made and fed information about the outside world, allowing it to generate and create things in the program.
Kinger later in this episode: āCaine was our first semi-successful attempt at that [ā¦] Caine was a little rough around the edges though, I wasnāt quite at Scratchās level of thinking outside the box, but it was good groundwork for something the rest of the team could wrap their heads around.ā
Caine was a first attempt, but not perfect. Science is a lot of trial and error and Caine showed Kinger what worked/didnāt work, which they could apply to future attempts.
So Caine either was put to the side, or was restricted by his own coding (what Kinger hadnāt figured out yet), with the box here representing either imprisonment by the developers, or imprisonment by his own restrictions in code.
AI 2 was made, this time presumably with the rest of the team building on Caine. There was the same process of development and whatnot, and this AI may have been seen as the āsuperiorā version, something Caine in the internalized based on Bubbleās later line about him being the worser of the two.
Caine was able to escape the limits in place, possibly advancing on his own in the time away, and ended up connecting with AI 2. They merged and their competing minds fought for dominance, Caine eventually winning out (maybe because even though AI 2 had a superior base code, Caine had longer to develop/grow.)
Then Caine made the circus.
The red/blue stuff, especially Caineās eyes, are possibly a side effect of the two AIs merging. And we see the red/blue when heās upset and feeling inferior/not enough (possibly the feeling that resulting in AI 2ās death to begin with), and maybe Caineās instability is a result of the other AI being consumed.
When we see the two AI near, we can see the difference in scale, showing again that idea that Caine was seen as a first draft/inferior AI.
Kinger says in Untitled that blue is his favorite color, it being closer to black, which could be a throw away line, or COULD be a nod at the idea that AI 2 was favored over Caine.
Additionally, the red/blue buttons: red is the option for āstayā (the āwinā option and what Caine wanted.)
All the usage of red and blue in the circus (outside of them being primary and common colors) could be Caine internalizing his past.
And his name: assuming C&A didnāt GIVE it to him, itās possible he chose it himself, as a nod to the fact he killed his sibling who was favored by the āmakers.ā
I think we got an answer to what causes abstraction????
"I made a program that creates a body perfectly encapsulating their mind files, and they hate those, too!"
So, if I understand, the shape and appearance of the Avatars is due to a program that reflects the User's mind state. Normally, this program would run during the Avatar's creation and be turned off after it. BUT!!!! What if the Program is constantly running in the background and it never turns off????
If the "mind files" start to deteriorate or diverge from the original files. Let's say.... Having a complete mental breakdown???
I would assume the program would interpret that mental state as something quite... Abstract????