“Brotherhood is better bc pffhdhdyshsshrfhgghhhghghh” Fullmetal Alchemist (2003) was a life changer. show some respect.
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“Brotherhood is better bc pffhdhdyshsshrfhgghhhghghh” Fullmetal Alchemist (2003) was a life changer. show some respect.

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funny things Ed and Al do after getting their bodies back (a non-exhaustive list):
- Ed fcking decks anything with his right hand (and almost breaks it after a while) because he keeps forgetting it’s not made of metal and no ed you cant just crush a can under your fist anymore stop
- Al forgetting to wear affect on his face sometimes. He just sits while people are talking to him with a stone-cold murder expression and Winry and Ed constantly remind him relaxed face al! (sometimes just under their breath) and they soon learn to tell him by just a signal by tapping their cheek twice and he shakes his head to snap out of it and smiles because yes! he can smile again!
- Ed’s right arm isn’t as heavy as automail so sometimes gestures just go flying like he’ll lift a plate and accidentally fckin fling the plate across the room behind himself because he accounts for the weight of his automail by accident and moves with way too much gusto
- Al getting pneumonia because he keeps sneaking outside whenever it rains to fcking stand in the rain
- Ed just lifting hot things w/ his right hand without an oven mitt and burning himself
- Al usually sitting with his legs curled close to his chest or legs folded because he couldn’t do that in his armoured body and it feels so nice!! he feels so small!!
- Ed being ambidextrous since he was forced to master writing with his left hand and he perfects the art of drawing transmutation circles with two hands at TOP EFFICIENCY SPEED just because he can
feel free to add more!
- Al reflexively looking down when people try to get his attention before he realises he’s not 10ft tall anymore
- Ed calling Al in Xing with some bullshit alchemy theory like “if we put all the ingredients for a cake in a transmutation circle would we be able to make a perfectly cooked cake here Al I drew the circle already listen very carefully”
- Al at 3am in the morning, dead serious, drawing the cake transmutation circle on the floor
- Al trying to hide kittens under his shirt and finding it’s Not As Effective as being an empty suit of armor
- Ed: I have retired from the military,, they don’t own me anymore,,, from now on I reject and shun their moniker and I shall now be known as,,, the quartermetal non-alchemist
- Al, upon encountering a minor inconvenience, such as eating something he doesn’t like, or getting too hot during summer: getting my body back was a mistake
This is beautiful
iconic™ lines from the 2003 fma dub
damn, i need more limbs
alphonse calling himself the cursed wormy armor
I LOVE DOGS
you’re the fullmetal alchemist? im sorry sir i thought you would be fuller and more metal
i’ll break off your feet and stick them on your head
havok: ah, the classic sewer escape roy: don’t follow him havok: damn it i was about to jump right in
9:46am, with papers waiting for his approval and due by noon, the colonel decided to take a nap instead.
11:03am, the colonel began furiously signing the papers, all the while cursing that he didn’t have time for this.
al: you’ve changed, you’re taller now! ed: YOU THOUGHT I’D STILL BE A RUNT WHEN I’M 18
no fair, sky, i’m the one who feels like crying
ed: let’s go, this whole castle is about to explode al: why?! ed: because i don’t like it
‘03 is a gift.

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This is where I take the opportunity to debunk this really ridiculous argument about Edward Elric.
I’ve seen a lot of criticism for how emotional Ed is in this series. He doesn’t cry often, but he tears up and expresses a lot of negativity that doesn’t fall under your typical shonen macho bravado.
Edward Elric is a fifteen year old boy.
Edward Elric is a traumatized, injured, lonely, orphaned fifteen year old boy who has had to take on responsibilities that are far above his maturity level.
He has endured pain on the level of a soldier in a full-scale war and then some.
He has had flashbacks triggered, he’s lost two of his limbs, he has nightmares of blood and decaying flesh, he has lost his mother, he blames himself for what happened to his brother, he watched an innocent child die and blames himself for that too, he has just recently admitted he doesn’t have anyone older he can trust right now, he has nearly been murdered with knives and with amplified alchemy designed to blow his brain apart, he doesn’t have a home, he’s cut himself off from his remaining family besides Al for their own protection after seeing what dangers his job incurs.
He loses sleep on research. He carries limbs that are too heavy for his body mass. He is regularly called upon to solve problems that are better left in the hands of adults by other adults he distrusts because he feels like they will only exploit him.
All while trying to be the adult he is just not ready to be. Not yet.
You will never experience half of what this kid experienced. This orphaned, child soldier, amputee who is trying to save he and his brother’s livelihoods under corrupt authorities who’d kill him for stepping out of line.
He deserves to shed tears.
Wow, everyone wants to talk about this today, eh
Sure he does deserve to cry and be emotional and stuff. But that doesn’t mean that he will.
Edward has a lot of pride. He’s been through hell and back and survived. Because of his experiences, he feels the need to be behave like an adult and he expect that sort of treatment; which is why he shows a lot of anger and frustration when people don’t take him seriously due to his height and age. He puts a lot of effort to earn respect from the authorities and adults, which is why I’m pretty certain that he wouldn’t cry. At least not very easily.
Thats what I like about the 2009 series the best: they keep their characters strong and consistent. I felt like the characters were a little sloppy in the 2003 portrayal, so towards the end they basically fell apart to the point where they were nearly bland or inconsistent. Yes, characters do develop but you need to control that balance and make sure that there is way for that to actually happen.
But you’re applying mangahood!Ed’s character traits to 2003!Ed and expecting them to still hold true? 2003!Ed is a different character, especially with regards to how he processes emotion. I’d make the argument that the first anime tends towards a more realistic portrayal of emotional reactions to trauma, while the mangahood goes for a more idealized portrayal - and there’s nothing wrong with an idealized portrayal, it makes more thematic sense in the mangahood, but it would not make sense for the themes of FMA2003.
And FMA2003 Ed doesn’t exactly cry easily, either. Most of the times we see him cry are when he’s still twelve or younger, and undergoing amounts of trauma and stress that would bring an adult to tears too (ex: crying when he finds what’s left of Nina’s body - remember that in the first anime, the Elrics lived with the Tuckers for around a half of a year, so Nina’s death hits them that much harder.)
I disagree about character portrayal and consistency in the different canons. I think both do a pretty good job with it. Do you have examples for “sloppy?“ characterization? Because I don’t see it.
To each their own and whatever, but I personally appreciated how FMA2003 Ed was set up as an archetypal shonen hero, but was then deconstructed and subverted. All that bravado is a front, he’s much more fragile than he wants anyone to know, but sometimes the mask falls down and we see him like this. That’s more appealing to me than just muscling through the pain.
not sure if this is really a hot take but the first opening in fmab is what single handedly convinces people that the first season is actually good
the power that the first opening has is undeniable
I was gonna caption this as like moments when the turn tables in Ed and Al’s dynamic (when Ed’s the one warning Al to hold his tongue or shouting after him for being a hotheaded idiot), but then I noticed how interesting it is that these moments all take place after Wrath shows up.
And I remembered how someone on here made a post about how Al develops into a less chill character by the end of the series, and like. It’s kinda cool how you see it really happening here, when the personification of sinly Rage shows up. Clever.
The problematic portrayal of minority characters in the FMA manga and Brotherhood: an explanation.
I’ve been in this fandom for a very long time, and fans of the manga, and more recently Brotherhood, are often perplexed by the assertion that these versions have any problems in their portrayal of non-white minority characters. So, for the sake of clarification, I’ve written an explanation as to what I feel these problems are, and why I find them so upsetting.
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If I may - the discussion in reblogs of this post are kind of cringey, because the best we can do with this actual narrative that happened is try to spin it in such a way that it doesn’t come across “As Bad” as it could be. But like……it’s bad.
I think that people who try to spin this another way are also kind of failing to see that there is worth in this badness, though. I don’t believe all media and all stories should have all their issues Nicely Solved and Nonproblematic. The issue is not always so much the presence of racism and imperial, genocidal militarism - the issue is going to be how the narrative treats it. And I totally agree with OP’s point that the narrative treating Miles’s methods as Superior is where the problem lies.
Not to be the divisive asshole who starts a game of compare-and-contrast, but I think it’s worth noting that #1 FMA03 didn’t have a Miles character, which I always thought was a shame because I do actually really like his character, and it’s an interesting dynamic which FMA03 lacked but also #2 FMA03 lacked a Miles character for a reason. And that reason is that there is none of this sort of “let’s reform the military from the inside out” idealistic optimism where really, we can make everythgin better if we work together!!! Like, Roy does ostensibly want to become Fuhrer in 03 but the most we see about his intentions as Fuhrer is the humorous miniskirts line. I have personally always thought that this was a false goal of sorts, something to talk about when it wasn’t the office he wanted at all, it was rather a shot at redemption.
Which I think is my point: redemption in FMA03 couldn’t come through the system, because the system was corrupt. Although I like mangahood, a lot, the focus was a lot more on personal responsibility than the institutional corruption. (Think of how mangahood focuses on Envy’s one shot which started the Ishvalan War, whereas in FMA03 it’s very clear the military deliberated sowed seeds of chaos to make the entire region erupt in conflict, and then used that as an excuse to exterminate the population.)
Anyway, I think that’s largely where the problems with Scar and Miles originate, and why there wasn’t a Miles analogue in FMA03, because I think that series wanted to be very clear: this system is bad. It can’t be reformed. It needs to be abolished.
Completely agreed. FMA03 wasn’t perfect either, of course. But it handled this particular issue with far more finesse. It was an explicit criticism of imperialism, and actually showed how racism was at the core of the fascist government of Amestris. Mangahood payed lip service to racism, but glossed over it completely as a real factor in Amestrian society. The character of Miles is an exemplification of that, insofar as he experienced no on-screen hostility whatsoever on account of his race.
Reforming the system from within is certainly a more viable option when there’s no fascist ideology to contend with, after all. Just underlings being manipulated by greedy superiors and monsters. Who aren’t even racists themselves, so much as greedy opportunists.
Contrast FMA03, where the homunculus Pride spouts explicitly fascist ideology during his fight with Roy. His sin of Pride (rather than Wrath, as per his mangahood counterpart) being the one of toxic RACIAL pride. It’s made completely explicit that the Amestrian government legitimately buys into this rhetoric, in other words.
Whatever their relative entertainment value or narrative quality, FMA03 did right by this issue in a way that mangahood didn’t.
Just wanted to add that another huge reason for Miles being spared was because the whitest of white women who was introduced spouting Social Darwinism and calls her brother a coward for running away from the frontlines when he became horrified by the atrocities he committed, found Miles useful. And he praises her for it. This “colourblind” treatment is total horseshit when you realise her militaristic family was heavily complicit in the Ishvalan genocide. If she had the clout to protect one of her men then she could’ve done more to help save people, especially after seeing how sneaky and underhanded she can be and how much she apparently hated the corrupt higher ups for treating soldiers as disposable. She smuggled her entire company of soldiers and a tank into the enemy’s stronghold, she could’ve hidden and sheltered people in her remote territory where no one ever comes looking.
Like, we know Alex Armstrong’s biggest regret was not fighting back against his superiors upon realising what they were doing was wrong but if iirc there was no further explanation given for Olivier’s stance on the matter.
I hate that her characterisation is “a father to her men BUT only if you’ve proven yourself useful”. She displayed compassion a number of times and considers her duty to protect civilians to be paramount to everything else but her belief that, at least in the military, people need to be “useful” to deserve to live and her support of a stance that has been used as justification to kill off minorities irl in the past is not only vindicated but praised as reasonable and righteous. It completely contradicts any and all forms of human empathy and compassion she displays and the narrative never criticises her toxic views.

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fma 2003 ran so fmab could also run. we would not even have fmab if 03 wasnt so successful and beloved. fmab’s budget came from 03′s success. 03 even had its 14ish-episode epilogue miniseries cut into one movie so that they could get started on fmab. i have no patience for people who act like 03 is bad. i dont even have patience for the mindset of “03 walked so fmab could run.” no. fma 03 ran. it ran very differently from fmab, so that we wouldn’t have two of the same thing twice, and everyone is going to have a preference to one’s approach/style/story over the other. but 03 ran. it ran hard.
Edward Elric in Fullmetal Alchemist: Conqueror of Shamballa
Scar: ive only known mei for a day and a half but if anything happened to her i would kill everyone in this room and then myself
You just know this is a real quote
Character: Edward Elric From: Fullmetal Alchemist Gender: Trans Male Why: Is shorter than most DMAB in the series. Overcompensates in being manly. Is very trans.

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