I have realized that the perfect form of media must have a delicate balance between absolutely heart wrenching pure emotional devastation and the most ridiculous nonsense you have ever seen in your whole life
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I have realized that the perfect form of media must have a delicate balance between absolutely heart wrenching pure emotional devastation and the most ridiculous nonsense you have ever seen in your whole life

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I will always be a staunch fmab hater, not bc the series is just soooo soooo bad, but bc the fandom like to praise it for things, which it honestly lacks, and dare i say objectively.
"Good, feminist rep of women", where?????? Dozen of shots of female characters shooting stuff are not even plot relevant, or AT LEAST not as much as their victimization, cut that cool scene of riza, and cut the part that she's an abuse victim, which would affect the plot more?her dad could literally use a paper, isntead of engraving that alchemy magic ring or whatever on her back.
This goes for other charcters as well. Also no sexy female war chriminal is not a great "feminist" rep, esp she keeps degrading her beother for refusing to take part in a freaking genocide.
As for genocide, "revenge is always bad" is bs when you use genociee as a plot device and genocide survivor(s) are fighting BACK aka protecting themselves, also let's make the most commonly appearing genocide survivor the murderer of white female mc's parents and compare him ACCIDENTALLy killing them to a whole genocide and even justify the female mc's anger with the genocide survivor more (in the narrative) than his anger towards system and war criminals that killed his people. Make him buddies with said war criminals
The rep of Ishvalans is screaming "noble savage", you are telling me these people who went through unimaginable horrors are obsolutely fine with that mustang bitch using blood of their dead family members to cure his blindness? The war criminal that actively made the choice to murder them? Ok
Also how is this series known for its rep of disablilties if the disabled people are looking for ways to get rid of disablity ASAP?
stopped embarrassing myself and finally watched fma
okayy finally got around to watching&finishing fma 2003 here are my awesome thoughts
evil evil spoilers ahead sorry that this got long
scar was right for killing all those soldiers genuinely. world's most justified and morally right character. fightingwith one arm even briefly is impressive. loved how his relationships developed esp with lust and al
maria ross my goat leave themilitary PLEASE you're too good for the military
sheska (?) and winry are so awesome i need 3seasons of them doing beautiful hijinks and disrupting things. maybe they are lovers ?
THE HOMONCULI.... CAME BACK WRONG BUT YOU KNOW YOU CAME BACK WRONG AND SOME LADY IS TELLING YOU THINGS ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT YOU CAN OR CANT BE.... dante named them after the seven deadly sins but she made that shit uppp
speaking of dante big fan of her she's creepy in all the right ways. also a big sucker for characters who are actively rotting. her theme is so awesome
minimum 2 sunsets per episode is a beautiful art direction
i think al is a trans girl have youheard ANYTHING she says about her body the entire show. unfortunately she has to figure it out twice (amnesia)
YOU HAVE YO INTERACT WITH THE WORLD BECAUSE APATHY AND IGNORJNG IT ONLY LEADS YO SUFFERING YOU ARE NOT SEPERATE FROM THE WORLD
fight scenes go crazy also. ed and greed fight. wow
okayy i haven't talked about ed at all buthe IS my favorite character.... i really like how he's wrong like all the yime. the most 16 year old ever. he admits his biases and grows from themm. awesome cool character arc
ALSO ROSE FUCKS ME UPP SHES SO AWESOME. she's drugged or whatever the last few eps and i wish we'd gotten a lot more of her being herself because it felt weird
lots of thoughts on lust&sloth being pushed into misogynistic roles btwww. lust maybe top 10 characters ever?
songs are really awesome. no idea what's up with the harmonica but everything else isreally awesome. been looping dantes theme and scars theme aswell as brothers a lot. the openings are pretty good
Tumblr users be like ' i wanna watch a show that has x, y, z". And there's a show that has x, y, z called fma 2003.
Posts that aren't tagged as fma 2003 but they should be.

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>open the fullmetal alchemist tag on ao3
>fic is tagged as both brotherhood and 2003
>ask author if the fic actually fits both fmab and fma03 or if its just a brotherhood fic tagged as 2003 so they get more clicks
>they dont understand
>explain the difference between brotherhood and 2003
>they laugh and say "it can be read as either mangahood or '03, sir"
>read the fic
>its just brotherhood
FUCK BROTHERHOOD ALL MY HOMIES WATCH FMA 2003
FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST: CONQUEROR OF SHAMBALLA 劇場版 鋼の錬金術師 シャンバラを征く者
how it feels to make a character's situation worse and worse and worse
wip, gonna finish soon✍️

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Happy October 3rd!
The FMA03 Supremacy server put together a little community zine to recognize the date and celebrate 20 years of FMA03! Completely free to download and enjoy!
It features writing from yours truly, @atomic-bobo / @fletcher-tringham, and our lovely Neela (who is not on Tumblr), and features illustration by @scarwasright , @jaquanthejequel / @anujasrinivas , @pluviatrix , and @redmapleleavesonwhitesnow.
At the end you'll also find a 'yearbook' from some members of the zine who wanted to say a few words. Thanks so much to everyone who participated and I'm looking forward to a possible Volume 2 one day!
good day to reblog the inaugural 03 supremacy server zine!
If fmab ed and 03 ed were forced to fight to the death,
fmab ed would walk into the ring all cocky because he’s big and buff and sees this puny shrimp standing opposite him
and then 03 ed would turn his metal arm into a gun
i don’t know how anyone could watch 03 and brotherhood and prefer brotherhood’s take on the homunculi. i don’t mean the individual characters, i mean the concept itself. because holy shit are the bh homunculi a let-down in comparison.
this is coming from someone who watched 03 first, but i find the concept of the bh homunculi to just be…. so boring. like, they’re meant to be the manifestations of father’s sins. okay. cool i guess. i’ve always found father himself to be a rather bland villain which is fine, not every villain needs to be completely fleshed out or understood. but the fact that these representations of sin are meant to reflect the sins of our antagonist, who’s a rather flat character anyway, feels like such a waste when you look over to 03.
03 having the homunculi be products of failed human transmutations is just…. SO fucking genius. it’s so interesting! now, every single one of the homunculi has a backstory to them! even the ones we know so little about like 03 pride and 03 greed have a level of depth to them. we know they were once human, that they were brought back by someone, and that they surely must have SOME feelings about that.
and for the ones we DO get to know more about? holy SHIT. sloth?!?! SLOTH. what a genius move. having the elrics go against the monster they created, the creation that sparked the whole series, the reanimated face of their MOTHER. it’s just so heartbreaking and something that works so well. and LUST????? HER WHOLE CHARACTER???? IT’S INCREDIBLE! having her break out of the “sexy woman” trope to actually be her own character, have her own feelings about her humanity and her own desires. having her turn against dante, her relationship to scar, all of that. her character became something truly beautiful.
in comparison, bh sloth is…. nothing. like i get it, haha, he’s sloth so he’s slow and doesn’t do much, whatever funny joke i guess. but it feels like a waste of an entire character. and bh lust is yet another waste. her entire existence is merely to set up roy’s character, and as the only female homunculus in bh, it feels so cheap.
i know this will probably not be a popular take, but i also think that envy suffers in bh as well in comparison. 03 envy is just, SO much more interesting. he was transmuted by his parents, then forgotten by his father in favor of a new family. he was then manipulated by his mother for YEARS into doing what she wanted. and then suddenly the name “envy” makes sense! he’s envious of humans, just like bh envy talked about, but in a much more PERSONAL way. he’s envious of what ed has. he HATES ed’s guts, and when his backstory is unraveled, it all makes sense why. bh envy is one of the more interesting homunculi in that series, but even then, his last speech about being jealous of humans and being humiliated feels a bit out-of-nowhere. his hatred for humanity really being a cover-up for jealous DOES make sense, but in comparison to 03 envy’s motivations, it feels so disingenuous to me.
and again, when thinking about the concepts, what do the homunculi in bh tell us about the characters in comparison to 03? we do get characters fighting against their “deadly sins” in each series, but the emotional stakes are much higher in 03. ed fighting pride in bh is intense and makes sense symbolically, but it lacks the emotional gut punch of ed fighting sloth in 03. both of them are the same thing on paper; ed is fighting the sin he struggles with most in each series. but bh ed has no emotional ties to bh pride, and he really can’t have any considering the whole concept of the homunculi just being born from father. in 03 however, when ed is fighting his creation, fighting his own mother, fighting the literal embodiment of his sin, it feels so much stronger.
this isn’t to say all of the homunculi are bad in bh - far from it. i LOVE bh greed. but what makes him a good character has nothing to do with the homunculi’s conception or his ties to father. it’s all about what he does inside the story. which is fine! i’m not complaining about that! i’m just saying that the mere concept of homunculi in 03 is a much better setup for the homunculi themselves and gives them a very personal stake in other characters’ stories. instead of being subsections of the Big Bad, they are born from our heroes, which gives them this much deeper sense of sadness as well as a stronger, personal tie to the protagonists. 03′s take on them is more tragic, more memorable, and just. so. good.
The 03 homunculi also have such strong and consistence thematic importance, because every single one of them is about sin that destroys families. Envy, envious of the brothers his father abandoned him for. Wrath, angry at his mother for leaving him alone. Lust, forced to become between two brothers who she both cared for. Greed, who turns into a monster because his family are all dead and he’s alone. Then there’s Pride, who in a show that’s all about the horrific extremes people will go to for their families, murders his young son in a move that is always more horrifying to me than yet another evil kid. And above all there’s Sloth, who not only as OP says is a brilliant antagonist for Ed but is also such a glorious deconstruction of the sainted mother trope. Because everything we know about Mama Elric is that she’s the perfect mother and the perfect wife and all she cares about are her children and her death is sad only because it leaves her children orphaned. Sloth takes all of that and spits in its face. She resents her children for having essentially given her life to them and then they force her into this miserable, horrible existence. She forces them into a situation where they either have to kill or be killed by her because that’s what she feels motherhood did to her. She forces Ed to confront that his crime wasn’t against nature but against HER. The homunculi don’t just make the characters confront their sins but also take the entire thesis of FMA (doing everything for your family) and asks what does that mean? What does that look like? Is that actually healthy? Is that love?
“fma 2003 sucks because they made hughes a nazi and it completely ruined his character”
okay, but you’re fine with him actively participating in genocide in brotherhood?
I think the difference between 03 CoS Hughes being a Nazi and fmab Hughes participating in the genocide of the Ishbalan people is the willingness factor. In 03 CoS, Hughes chose to be a nazi of his own free will. In fmab, Hughes was doing his job and fighting for his life. He didn’t want to do it, but he wanted to live, as shown in the Every Man’s Battlefield OVA. Hughes in 03 CoS was a racist. Hughes in fmab was a man fighting for his life and future. There is and always will be a difference.
There were a ton of reasons besides simple “prejudice against Jews/Romani/etc.” why people in Germany in the early 1920s supported the Nazi Party (which was long before it was clear that genocide was on their minds). They were in the middle of one of the worst economic disasters in history, caused largely by Germany’s defeat in WWI and the Allied response to it. A nationalistic party with simplistic solutions that involved Germany returning to greatness had obvious appeal. CoS!Hughes was prejudiced of course, but that’s far from the only reason he supports the Nazis in the movie, and you can’t really talk about “free will” when we’re dealing with a kneejerk response to an economic disaster. (You might find it helpful to research a little on the Weimar Republic and/or how the Nazis rose to power, in order to understand this better.)
In that sense, CoS!Hughes had way more understandable motivation for his actions than Brotherhood!Hughes. It’s never really explained to us why Hughes joined the military in the first place, unlike with Mustang and Hawkeye. He’s just already there when we meet him. And just because he was able to befriend an Ishbalan doesn’t mean he’s not a racist. Racism is far more complex than that.
In general, the fact that you seem to see racism as an either/or (as opposed to something everyone has in degrees) and as a “choice” suggests you don’t really know very much about it. Here’s a good place to start. Also, one specifically with respect to the FMA series (with more helpful links).
The 03 anime’s specific point is there isn’t a huge difference between the Amestrian Hughes who supports a very Nazi-like regime without fully knowing how bad it is, and the Hughes of our world who follows an early version of the Nazi Party. At least the second one turned tail once he saw the bigger picture of what they were planning.
tbh reactions like the second poster is why the parallel in 03 is so important (but unfortunately don’t register to the people who really need to know). People automatically associate the words “Nazi” and “racism” with bad, but can go on 34234 defensive debates on why Nazi-like/genocidal and racist behavior is ok. A lot of times things like racism isn’t cartoony hatred, but simply the act of valuing yourself/your own kind over other people + pre-established power imbalance in your favor that then makes this kind of behavior dangerous (and yeah did everyone miss the fact that parallelworld!Hughes dropped out of the party? He’s technically already morally ahead of Amestrian!Hughes lol)
The fact that people can so easily defer to the rational of “just doing their job” for cops and soldiers, a classic line ripped straight from the testimony of Nazi militia members and scientists, has a sick irony to the way fma fans desperately want Nazi!Hughes to be a separate aberration from Amestrian!Hughes (who, to be clear, is still a fascist/imperialist and a pig).
And to point to the obvious: the Amestrian military doesn’t conscript it’s soldiers. Hughes voluntarily joins the institution. How the fuck is that any less vile than someone choosing to join the Nazi party?
planning to rewatch shamballa soon... missing my miserable trio

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Thanking fma 03 on my knees for making Ed's resemblance a snug mix between both Hoho AND Trisha, instead of whatever ungodly Hoho 2.0 that he becomes in brotherhood. HE'S SO GODDAMN PRETTY, HOW DOES HE DO IT. DOES HE KNOW HOW DEAR HE IS TO MY HEART
“the parallel world twist in 03 comes out of nowhere!”
umm excuse you but exhibit A: