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"Tim is stealing Jasons bangs"
WRONG
Tim is stealing Dicks bangs
Detective comics #38
Get your facts straight 😤
the bias in the tags is actually insane-
its cuz im joking
okay well it didn’t seem like it joking is kinda hard to express if it’s not spoken especially if it’s through tags-
its okay 👍
"Tim is stealing Jasons bangs"
WRONG
Tim is stealing Dicks bangs
Detective comics #38
Get your facts straight 😤
the bias in the tags is actually insane-
its cuz im joking
You can't.
She doesn't.
Literally dude just give her space. And maybe some page time too because you've been hogging all of it.
"dihs the favourite child" this "hes the 1st and original son/robin that"
Said by someone who only ever reads nightwing comics or animated shows
If we're going by COMICS (!) its between Tim & Cass
Ive read a few of Dihs time as robin and then compared it to Tim's early robin days and Cass' earlier appearances but the way Dih was treated was VERY different to the other robins, I would argue even Jason is more loved (as a robin) considering the fact that he was adopeted even before Dih. He was treated like a partner yes, maybe hes Bruces favourite partner because Bruce didnt have to worry about him as much as the others but that doesnt mean hes the favourite robin/child. Tim canonically has the most hugs from Bruce (i swear that boy is always being hugged by somone in most of his runs), and Cass has the healthiest relationship or as healthy as it can get. Cass and Bruce get along the most, her and Duke have rarely had a falling out with Bruce. But everyone refuses to see that because they are fixated in their personal favourite character being everyone else's favourite (i am guilty of this myself).
That brings me on to be second point.
Animated Dih is NOT comic Dih, just because he is the animators favourite and hes has a hundred and one shows doesnt mean its canon. Hes your favourite because you didnt consume media outside if his character and refuse to see that just Because Bruce is seen caring for him as father would do so in his own shows or comics doesnt mean anything. Like let's talk about all star batman. Bruce treated Dih HORRIBLY in his early robin days.
So let's stop projecting just because YOU think hes the favourite doesnt mean he actually is and please read about the other characters instead of your favs so you dont come to this conclusion again.
oh boy, is this an argument not worth jumping into but alas it has annoyed me enough to pull up *actual* evidence instead of vaguely referring to some comics that exist out there.
these arguments over who's the favorite child or the best robin tend to always boil down to people just propping up their personal favorite, or bringing down characters they don't particularly like out of sheer malice, and that's exactly what you're doing lol.
while bruce has never definitively stated who his favorite child is, there are so many panels out there that point to dick being the one he regards in the most special light. here are just a few examples:
Tales of the Teen Titans (1984) #50
JLA (1996) #73
DC Universe: Last Will and Testament
Infinite Crisis #6
Robin: 80th Anniversary Special
bruce literally loves him and admires him so much that he didn't feel like he had the right to pull him away from the life he'd made for himself even though he needed him:
Batman: Prodigal
you say people who claim this have only read dick's comics, but it's kinda clear that you haven't read enough of his comics either to properly argue against this statement.
the reason jason was adopted before dick is a matter of historical context (i am not *too* familiar with these laws, but bruce could legally not take in dick as anything other than his ward when this was originally written), and later on, a matter of respect for dick's parents. before the crisis, bruce explains that he was just too young and never gave it much thought, and in post-crisis, dick was the one who didn't want bruce to replace his father so bruce decided to not adopt him to respect his wishes. i also just once again don't view this argument as something indicative of favoritism, as it is all just a matter of circumstance. and it kind of feels like we're teetering on the edge of "your parents love you more if you are legally their child and no other form of parental relationship is as valid".
Batman (1940) #439
using the amount of hugs a certain character has as proof that they are the favorite is just deeply unserious lol. and just because characters haven't fallen out with bruce as much as dick has is also a weak argument, since 1) conflicts don't have to be inherently negative and are often grown out of love between two characters, and 2) it's literally just up to the writer and how much conflict they want in their story (which in rebirth, is not a lot). and it's also not really fair to compare the relationships and conflicts bruce has had with characters who have only existed for a fraction of dick's existence. like of course he will have argued more with dick (created in 1940) than with duke (created in 2013). not to mention how the different eras and writers also impact the nature of these relationships, since both bruce and dick have been characterized in several different, often contradictory ways.
you say bruce being shown to care about dick doesn't mean anything, yet you cling onto the flimsiest evidence to support your own claim that he isn't the favorite.
and, know that once you seriously bring up all star batman and robin into a conversation like this one, you lose any credibility lol. that comic is not only an elseworlds, but also such an insane misrepresentation of their dynamic that many people have genuinely accepted it as satire 😭.
i'd encourage you to listen to your own advice and stop projecting yourself. unless you have actual panels to bring into such a discussion, you cannot expect people to take you seriously when making such definitive claims, especially when it seems you've only read barely a few comics about the character you're discussing.
peace out ✌🏻
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phew thought I was in enemy territory for a sec (fanon so far removed from the source material they probably didn't read it.)
another thing, just saw the op in the reblogs justifying their claim by talking about all-star batman. Like you're kidding right? A comic widely regarded as badly written is your only source for this claim? Not to mention the op is doing to tim and cass is exactly what they claim dick-fans are doing to dick. So yeah.
Im gonna make a hate post about Tim and watch how no one defends it lol you Dih fans drive me crazy hes literally the fan favourite stop being so defensive like hes some character thats hated on all the time. Also a source is still a source, just because you dont like it doesnt make it less canon. Stop complaining that im not talking about canon when i literally am just because i dont have screenshots of comic panels ive already come acorss just lying somewhere doesnt make me less of a comic reader. I read to read not find comic panels. Ive already given the comic to read through
If you say something like: "Tin sucks and Bruce has never once loved him" Then you will get Tim fans telling you you're wrong because that is provably untrue.
If you say something like: "Tim is boring, I don't like his comics" Then you will get a lot less pushback because that is just your opinion.

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"Tim is stealing Jasons bangs"
WRONG
Tim is stealing Dicks bangs
Detective comics #38
Get your facts straight 😤
"dihs the favourite child" this "hes the 1st and original son/robin that"
Said by someone who only ever reads nightwing comics or animated shows
If we're going by COMICS (!) its between Tim & Cass
Ive read a few of Dihs time as robin and then compared it to Tim's early robin days and Cass' earlier appearances but the way Dih was treated was VERY different to the other robins, I would argue even Jason is more loved (as a robin) considering the fact that he was adopeted even before Dih. He was treated like a partner yes, maybe hes Bruces favourite partner because Bruce didnt have to worry about him as much as the others but that doesnt mean hes the favourite robin/child. Tim canonically has the most hugs from Bruce (i swear that boy is always being hugged by somone in most of his runs), and Cass has the healthiest relationship or as healthy as it can get. Cass and Bruce get along the most, her and Duke have rarely had a falling out with Bruce. But everyone refuses to see that because they are fixated in their personal favourite character being everyone else's favourite (i am guilty of this myself).
That brings me on to be second point.
Animated Dih is NOT comic Dih, just because he is the animators favourite and hes has a hundred and one shows doesnt mean its canon. Hes your favourite because you didnt consume media outside if his character and refuse to see that just Because Bruce is seen caring for him as father would do so in his own shows or comics doesnt mean anything. Like let's talk about all star batman. Bruce treated Dih HORRIBLY in his early robin days.
So let's stop projecting just because YOU think hes the favourite doesnt mean he actually is and please read about the other characters instead of your favs so you dont come to this conclusion again.
oh boy, is this an argument not worth jumping into but alas it has annoyed me enough to pull up *actual* evidence instead of vaguely referring to some comics that exist out there.
these arguments over who's the favorite child or the best robin tend to always boil down to people just propping up their personal favorite, or bringing down characters they don't particularly like out of sheer malice, and that's exactly what you're doing lol.
while bruce has never definitively stated who his favorite child is, there are so many panels out there that point to dick being the one he regards in the most special light. here are just a few examples:
Tales of the Teen Titans (1984) #50
JLA (1996) #73
DC Universe: Last Will and Testament
Infinite Crisis #6
Robin: 80th Anniversary Special
bruce literally loves him and admires him so much that he didn't feel like he had the right to pull him away from the life he'd made for himself even though he needed him:
Batman: Prodigal
you say people who claim this have only read dick's comics, but it's kinda clear that you haven't read enough of his comics either to properly argue against this statement.
the reason jason was adopted before dick is a matter of historical context (i am not *too* familiar with these laws, but bruce could legally not take in dick as anything other than his ward when this was originally written), and later on, a matter of respect for dick's parents. before the crisis, bruce explains that he was just too young and never gave it much thought, and in post-crisis, dick was the one who didn't want bruce to replace his father so bruce decided to not adopt him to respect his wishes. i also just once again don't view this argument as something indicative of favoritism, as it is all just a matter of circumstance. and it kind of feels like we're teetering on the edge of "your parents love you more if you are legally their child and no other form of parental relationship is as valid".
Batman (1940) #439
using the amount of hugs a certain character has as proof that they are the favorite is just deeply unserious lol. and just because characters haven't fallen out with bruce as much as dick has is also a weak argument, since 1) conflicts don't have to be inherently negative and are often grown out of love between two characters, and 2) it's literally just up to the writer and how much conflict they want in their story (which in rebirth, is not a lot). and it's also not really fair to compare the relationships and conflicts bruce has had with characters who have only existed for a fraction of dick's existence. like of course he will have argued more with dick (created in 1940) than with duke (created in 2013). not to mention how the different eras and writers also impact the nature of these relationships, since both bruce and dick have been characterized in several different, often contradictory ways.
you say bruce being shown to care about dick doesn't mean anything, yet you cling onto the flimsiest evidence to support your own claim that he isn't the favorite.
and, know that once you seriously bring up all star batman and robin into a conversation like this one, you lose any credibility lol. that comic is not only an elseworlds, but also such an insane misrepresentation of their dynamic that many people have genuinely accepted it as satire 😭.
i'd encourage you to listen to your own advice and stop projecting yourself. unless you have actual panels to bring into such a discussion, you cannot expect people to take you seriously when making such definitive claims, especially when it seems you've only read barely a few comics about the character you're discussing.
peace out ✌🏻
also I cannot believe they're making a (seemingly) faithful Knightfall adaptation!
I thought we were joking about that 😭
Do people think they will explode if the type the name "Dick"?
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Scott Snyder did an ama on reddit, some of his responses:
^comforting
This sound great so hopefully it ends up happening!
Teen Titans dont have any comics coming out right now to my knowledge, but this kinda implies something is gonna happen with them so maybeeee new series... could be anything though.
omg Shondra!
Run while you still can girl 😭
Joining the war of bad parent Jack & Janet Drake on the side of bad parent Jack & Janet Drake
(I know the compressed quality is gonna make the cursive hard to read so I transcribed it 👌)
"Dear Dad, I wish we could go back and start over again! When I was a kid, I used to dream - to pray - that you and mom would stop travelling, forget business and just settle down. We'd be together, the way a family ought to be..."
"Now I have my wish. I'm going to be with you all the time. And it's tearing me apart."
"Funny, how once you never seemed to care - at least you never showed me that you did. And now you want to run my life."
"Do you really think we can start over...?"
"I've no idea who you think I am, Dad - but I'm not that boy. I had to fend for myself of a long time. I changed, Dad. I have a lot of... secrets."
"You couldn't be more wrong about Bruce Wayne. Despite what he seems he is the only truly great man I have ever known. He... helps people. And he never asks for anything in return."
"Sometimes I wish we could start over... but I know we can't. We have to take things from exactly where we are."
"to the Father I never knew"
Batman #480
I've seen people make the argument that ditching your kids for long periods of time was normalized back then, therefore they Jack & Janet weren't abusive, I disagree for a couple of reasons.
First of all just because something was normalized doesn't make it okay. There are a lot of things that used to be common place that I think most people can agree are morally wrong now and were morally wrong then.
Secondly, the narrative itself repeatedly insists that Tim felt neglected and abandoned by his parents, so even if it was normalized it still obviously negatively affected him.
This is kind of why I don't like the idea that some fans like to run with that Bruce was super cold & distant to Tim because of what happened to Jason.
Obviously you can write/hc whatever you want, but I feel like Bruce & Alfred being the some of the first people to actually make Tim feel cared for is a important part of their dynamic as well as Tim's story. Bruce was somewhat hesitant to take Tim on at the start, but after that he was extremely supportive of him.
I've always gotten the feeling that the reason Tim latched so hard onto being Robin is because Robin was the first time he felt supported & like he was a part of something even if it also brought him quite a bit of misery.
(Which is also why I think Tim realizing he can have that without being Robin makes a better story than him just being Robin forever)
Actually, no, I don't think putting Barbara Gordon down by using sexist/misogynistic language (eg. "Nightwing's lapdog", "gets passed around any man in the general vicinity", ... ) to defend Dickkory is the serve you think it is, and frankly, i think Kory would put you through the ground for that. But that's just me.
They're being such haters right now, so what if she has no "morals" or "compassion"
I mean they're letting Deathstroke help after all.
Plus, if shes so evil...
Then why is she so gorgeous 🤔

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Okay well I do love his look here. I think this is controversial on tumblr, but I'm not the biggest fan of discowing, but the jacket with the collar sticking out is PEAK. And his hair actually looks nice for once.
I'm still mad at him for being mean to Pantha but this is winning him back some points.
omfg can Kory have a single page to herself and not have it be made all about Dick???
noooo honey dont have some space to yourself to grieve, I need you to do my emotional regulation for me 🥺