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Hey guys a bit ooc content but I need help writing
I bet ya‘ll saw the Ghost anatomy post by @eosofspades, which is really fucking helpfull btw (I never knew what to call the fins)
But what about the other types of ghost shells??
Like:
(Yes I know I did a great job outlining that stuff)
What do you call these things??
Paper clips, Keychain hook, Spikes and Flappy Fins
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(Thx the little bird emote, now my warlock denka has finally reached his true form 🌠 )
The way language is handled in Destiny interests me! Specifically the way it handles words lacking in direct translation. More specifically, with the eliksni and hive.
They both have a word that loosely translates to ‘of course’. the eliksni have ‘eia’ which basically means ‘agreement without doubt’ and then the hive have ‘aiat’ which ESSENTIALLY means ‘it must be this way because theres no other way for it to exist’ which encapsulates existential struggle, physical law, and then just plain agreement
But then theres more translation stuff beyond those most noticable two. The eliksni have a language in which words are conjoined to add context, whereas english has many hyperspecific words instead. Less fluent eliksni conjoin almost all of their words, while fluent eliksni just sorta pepper it in bc whatever, it gets their message across and humans dont have a word for this one. ‘Knife-will’ ‘dreg-strength’ ‘mother-strong’
Then the hive have something else going on! Where words dont have a direct translation due to their hyperspecific experiences as a species, and the concepts are too difficult to convey so they just Dont. Like. ‘Shape’ can mean anything from a fundemental law of the universe, to an ontological weapon. Then ‘knife’ leans onto an aspect of their religion called the sword logic, so its not a literal knife! Its synonymous with one’s purpose, direction, and drive. Then theres also the way the hive bind paracausal power to their language, turning it into a spoken magic, adding a whole new significance to names, titles, and refusal to use honorifics, but thats a different post entirely
Crow: Shaxx even brags about killing them, and Guardians wear their bones like theY'rE aNiMaLs!
Dead children eaten and people hunted for sport by the Fallen with their skulls and bones kept and worn as trophies:
The Eliksni were plunged into a state of desperation after the Whirlwind. Their God, the entity they worshiped as a deity, abandoned them. Worse still they followed it across the stars only to see it choose another people over them. They were beside themselves with grief, driven with hatred and rage towards a species that had stolen their God.
Our species were at war, the Eliksni were brutal but so were the Guardians. They didn’t hunt people for sport, they hunted people out of grief. The Eliksni have lost more than humanity could ever know, cut them a bit of slack.
Desperation does not excuse genocide on a completely innocent species IN THE SAME PREDICAMENT (after the traveler battled, it couldn't do anymore for them, so they were essentially in the same abandonment role as the Fallen), what kind of sound reasoning is that?
A species who has "stolen" their god? Humanity never stole anything. The Traveler, as mentioned in their lore entries, gives freely without expecting anything in return, and without anything beckoning it, because that's what it represents. Freedom of choice. Nobody can force the Traveler to give anything. The fact you blame the victims more than the people who started the century long war is almost astounding. The Fallen came to Humanity in rage and bloodlust. Humanity isn't to blame for that, nor did they ever ask for that.
You'd think the Fallen would understand since they're in the same exact predicament as them (millions of humans died and they're on the brink of extinction) but they choose to ravage their villages and murder many more of their innocents instead. *Eyeballs Shin's origin story*
And as a matter of fact, you're wrong. They DID kill for sport. Literally confirmed in the Ghost stories.
"They relish the slaughter."
Boom.
They lost more than humanity ever has? Cut them a bit of slack??? Cut them a bit of slack to rip innocent children to shreds because of something that was never their fault? Where is the sense???
Since they came in war, they're going to suffer consequences for bringing hell onto innocents. That's...that's just how it works. You can't expect to attempt genocide on an innocent species that did nothing to you and isn't responsible for your consequences, and expect to get away with it. Humanity fought back against them to protect themselves, throwing their same brutal actions right back to their faces. So they got their shit kicked in.
They are not innocent, nor are the first Warlords either (Guardians history isn't completely faultless, I'm NOT denying that, our topic is just centered on the Fallen), but they came with the intent of war sparred by grief...which was never humanity's fault. How the hell should Humanity be blamed for whatever happened with their species in a different dimensions and their own consequences? Victim blaming is never okay. Especially when it's an attempt to back an attempted genocide on a dwindling species on the brink of extinction. Genocide.
Okay but like they're growing. They don't deserve to be treated like that because of what their forbears have done. Now we're at a point where most of the fallen don't pose a significant threat and many even are defecting. It doesn't seem right. It was different when humanity was scattered, but now the fallen houses are broken and humanity lives in a fortress, idk even with everything they did i still feel like they deserve a chance to be better and crow is right imo
Humanity still lives in the same one place they've had for centuries (and had to nigh start all over after wars) due to all their enemies, including the Fallen, for one. Two, Fallen as a whole will continue to be a current threat if the Dark Future lore book is going by anything (our destined future lists Eramis and her regrouped Fallen coming back to wage war of Humanity...and exceeds in dwindling even more of their numbers), but we all know those events will change some details this timeline. Which details, we don't know yet, but I'm excited!
Also to note, there are only splinters of Fallen wanting to be allowed a "second chance"/becoming Allies with Humanity. Sure they now "don't deserve to be treated that way" but neither does current humanity, especially after suffering such excessive losses over the past war, but guess what? The Fallen as a whole are still goin at it with us. War is still the same, and will never seem right. The Fallen's reputation as a whole, despite their now smaller position in the system (compared to the beginning at least) still wants to knock humanity off once and for all...however.
Bungie seems to already be going along the route of "giving them a chance" since obviously most of the current Fallen aren't some of the Fallen before, and we've had an opportunity to ally with the Cabal of all people for crying out loud. Also hints with Osiris talking to Saint-14 about the House of Light, literally all of Beyond Light, etc we're not blind to this second chance Bungie is offering with the Fallen.
My main point was Crow, despite obviously wanting to take a chance on the Fallen (and presumably the Cabal as he was referring to both while talking to Amanda), is hilariously naive to Humanity and their Generational Trauma that comes with both of these enemy species. He doesn't seem to understand the impact it has on the both of them in fact, and thinks it's as simple as letting bygones be bygones with no other second thoughts, despite us still having open wounds from a horrific war with one of the aforementioned species not even more than 5 years ago.
At what point did I say humanity deserved what the fallen did to them? I’m literally just thinking some of the stuff our guardian has done to the fallen seem very extreme and I’m not comfortable with that, and given what they had been through, I believe they have more in common with humanity that either of us wants to believe. and like even regarding your original point, like just because they wore human bones and stuff as adornments doesn’t mean humans need to do the same to them. That’s now how any progress gets made.
My point is it initially seemed as if you're throwing around "deserve" as if it isn't a two way street. Loads of innocents in this now two way war don't "deserve" any of the consequences that are happening to them.
You say extreme as if the Fallen did nothing or had a history deserving of nothing that is happening to them right now. Their extreme consequences they suffer right now due to their own actions makes you uncomfortable. I'm sure the hundreds of innocents belonging to Humanity slaughtered due to them were uncomfortable with their extreme actions too. The extreme actions go BOTH ways, and originated with the Fallen in this "relationship".
Nobody is denying they have more things in common than differently! That was literally in my first response to the other person! It makes absolutely no sense to me they'd choose a war lasting centuries over trying to be empathetic to one another when they're in the same exact circumstance. But here we are.
Okay and you're still missing the point that literally nobody is stating the humans ""need"" to do the same to them. Humanity isn't attacking back for no reason. These brutal, copied actions came from somewhere. And even then, this is just karma shooting back at them. Sure it's cruel, but you have to understand cruel consequences are a result of cruel actions. Humanity isn't pure, and when someone outright brutalizes you and your entire species for centuries over something you have absolutely no control over (Traveler, Darkness) which in turn begets wholeass generational trauma, it shouldn't be surprised the same exact shit will be thrown right back at them at some point. The fall out of wars suck, others who take part aren't deserving of the treatment there's no denying that, but part of this war in particular is karma, no matter how cruel it seems.
Yea that isn't how "progress" is made, but Humanity isn't the only one pushed into going in circles. As a matter of fact, we're already making progress of what Osiris said to Saint holds any weight, it just has to domino throughout the Tower now (...which it has, with many Guardians, but not most understandably).
Once again, I was never trying to state we need to stay at war with the Fallen and Never give them a second chance Ever. I was just emphasizing on how naive and unempathetic Crow is to generational trauma, and backing that up, and then this whole discussion/post started to slowly tumble away from the main point and instead attack other points I was literally not trying to wholly emphasize on, and I would seriously prefer you'd stop.
You’re missing my point, and the essays aren’t helping. I get that you want to have a go at someone, but that person isn’t going to be me.
You completely derailed my initial post with other topics literally nobody else was denying, and when someone has the gall to completely back themselves up with more thought process put into their responses debunking your points, you take it personally and continue to miss/stray away from the main point. This derailing wasn't my problem, but I get why you're doing it. "it isn't going to be me" lmao you literally brought this upon yourself, alongside this wonderfully deserved block.
RANDOM DIALOGUE IDEAS #11
Feel free to use any of these dialogue ideas in your writing. Be creative with the context!
“don’t be shy”
“I’m not in the mood”
“I quit”
“look away”
“you’re embarrassing me”
“don’t move”
“it’s not worth it”
“tell me everything”
“you should have thought about that”
“I’m scared”
“don’t lie to me”
“I have a headache”
“that’s gross”
“think about it”
“let’s get this over with”
“don’t take it personal”
“I hate it”
“I’m glad to hear that”
“don’t flatter yourself”
“I’ll take you there”
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I feel like we had a moment here. But then you kept standing here, and the moment went on too long, and now… Yeah, it’s gone.
Ikora Rey has spoken to Petra Venj and visited the Blind Well; she knows about the Sky and the Deep, although she does not know which has taken Eris. Crota’s Bane has become a master spy, a master in the Hidden. The information she passes back is precise and correct and carefully curated: what Eris Morn knows, the others need to keep in mind, lest something unseen jump them in the night. Ikora imagines she reads sadness in Eris’ words and then wonders whether she invented it because she wants to detect any emotion at all. Where would she find sadness in code words arranged according to a cipher? Is it comfort or bitter drink to know Eris is also working for Mara Sov? Nevertheless Ikora composes her own messages, on one of the days when Zavala is exceptionally cold and the Guardian is away. Come home, she writes, and never sends.
He’s our brother now 😡
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Me every Gambit match
Guardians Arinda, Faora and Abrams, commissioned by @some-cool-guardian-oc. Thank you!
1. Contingency reserves overdrawn. We underestimated nobility troth reparations. Uldren suggests that we open reintegration talks. Have you discussed endowment support?
2. If Reef endorses support, Paladin Oran will engineer reinforcement.
CROW UNTRUSTWORTHY DESIRES POWER
“You weren’t who I thought you’d be, that’s probably why it took so long for me to find you.
I had searched for hundreds of—well, you call them years, to find a hero worthy of my Light. I traveled to crypts of kings and knights of times far before the Golden Age. I searched too through the corpses of past Guardians, thinking that perhaps I would be the one to revive them and fight along them in a way that their first Ghost had failed to.Once I even hitched a ride to Mars with an unsuspecting Hunter, thinking to perhaps find you among the voyagers of the Golden Age. (I won’t tell you how long it took me to get off that rock.)
By the time I made it back to Russia I had nearly given up.
Failed in my purpose, I went to the wilderness hoping to die, but instead I saw you. You—your bones, were as much a part of land as any other beautiful flower in the forest. The moment I saw you, I knew. All this time I had searched for a Guardian worthy of my Light, when all along it was me who needed to be worthy of you.
All at once I knew you, a mother, a daughter, a wife. (Though I will never tell you this, for I know how your heart would break.) You had been fearless, and brave in ways I could never have begun to imagine. You had been selfless, you had loved with passions I did not then understand. I was in awe.
The first you amazed me, but when I met the second you I knew love.”
A little speedpaint of Circe and Ganymede’s first meeting to finish out the end of the night!
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The beginning of Destiny 1 is actually really hilarious considering our Guardian was like…maybe a couple days old before Zavala sends them to fetch a warp drive. Zavala and the rest are probably thinking “ah another kinderguardian, still green and wet behind the ears, they’ll need intensive training before they’re ready” and then the next thing you fucking know the guardian returns with the warp drive and casually mentions they killed a giant fallen with a funny hat
Zavala, upon realizing this like 2 day old immortal toddler slew an Archon
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