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Ruby|Amelia gets Sam hooked on demon blood again, dripping it into the (red) Gatorade she gives him while he fixes things around her apartment, and later, into the food she makes when they start living together.

That dog Sam hit? Hellhound.

Ruby’s goal is the Purgatory souls — she needs them to get Lucifer out of the cage, but she convinces Sam it’s to rescue Dean. He can handle all that power! Cas? Weak, but not Sam!

It works, and Dean and Cas get out along with a whole bunch of Leviathans. (Chuck was right about one thing: Leviathans are cool!)

Cas and Dean spend season 8 getting Sam out of her clutches, and eventually TFW gets back together to take down Ruby before she can release Lucifer from the cage.

And of course they foil her plans, but she becomes a series regular with a seven season long redemption arc.

(Critically, she get her old vessel back, and with Gen on the show, Jared doesn’t phone it in for the last few seasons and everybody wins.)

If dagon n Kelly were alive, what kind of dumbassery would it result in for jack. Noone talks about potential demon mama dagon but i want to.

If would greatly amuse me if Dagon's aims got nobler and nobler, while Kelly's sunk to deeper and more morally dubious lows.

And Jack is like ???? I feel like demon mama is suggesting the Gooder things here???? Anyway, at some point they have to kill President Rooney. And it's the right decision.

I had to think about this one, because my first instinct was Endverse Cas.

And I do love Endverse Cas. I love the “well, the world is ending, so we might as well enjoy what’s left of it” energy. I love the “don’t give a shit” of it all.

But the more I thought about it, the more I realized that while Endverse Cas is fun, he’s also deeply, deeply sad. A lot of the things that make him entertaining are actually just terrible coping mechanisms. He’s not an angel anymore. He and Dean aren’t really friends anymore. He’s numbing himself through the end of the world because what else is there?

So I don’t think he’s actually my favorite.

I think my favorite version is still original flavor, apocalypse-era Cas. That early dominant, furious Cas who is still very much an angel and also already too invested in Dean Winchester.

Like, “I’m going to slam you into a brick wall because you are about to offer yourself up to Michael, and I cannot believe I fell in love with this stupid, self-sacrificing little human.”

That Cas.

The Cas who loves Dean, but is also kind of pissed off about loving Dean. The Cas who is ancient and powerful and alien, and yet somehow this one human man has become the thing that breaks through.

There’s just something so good about Cas in that stage where the devotion is already there, but the tenderness hasn’t fully softened him yet. He’s still divine wrath and “you should show me some respect,” except unfortunately for him, Dean Winchester is standing there being reckless, and Cas is furious about how much he cares.

She did not like calling adult Sam and Dean "honey" or "sweetheart" -- felt wrong, also pointed out that Jody Mills never called Sam and Dean "honey"

She did not like the love arcs for Mary, felt like they ddin't know what else to give her to do

Specifically did not like the final Mary death by Jack (and when she was called about it, it was to give motivation to "the boys")

Has issues that her sons decide she isn't allowed to drive her own car (someone pls write a fic where there's a conflict because Baby is her car... but for some Impala/Mary Winchester you should read Shut Up and Drive)

Someone asked what her Mary theme song would be and she initially said "Fighter" by Chrisina Aguilera but agreed with the suggestion "Barracuda" by Heart

Anyway: she seems very aware of (and somewhat antagonistic toward) the hate that Mary gets in a lot of fandom. I specifically wrote down she was the "number one Mary defender" but she never actually says that.

The "nightgown mommy" was in reference to what her character was in early seasons and how people didn't like when she became a different character. Some of my feelings about how her character is treated came out when I wrote The Miracle of Childbirth Could Be Less Messy. Like... why is Mary Winchester assisting in childbirth? What are that woman's qualifications, other than being a woman?

One of the issues with side characters on the show is that (most of) the fans are extremely protective of Sam and Dean. That's who their primary emotional involvement is with. So characters or circumstances that threaten Sam or Dean (or both) tend to be viewed negatively by a majority of fans, because of aforementioned protectiveness.

All the things that Mary has been hated for were "Winchester behavior" -- going off on her own, trying to solve problems behind characters' backs, being emotionally and physically unavailable -- but because she was not hanging around making Sam and Dean's life easier, people hate her.

ok usually i am a bystander (or, more accurately, a person who sits in a seat and takes notes) at cons but this is the first time I ever asked a question, which basically was along the lines of this: considering that Mary Winchester had an antagonist arc, what could she have done to more fully commit to what she was trying to accomplish?

Her response was that she would have taken over the British Men of Letters, which, not bad.

She also said that originally, wardrobe tried to make Mary Winchester more stylish, with heeled boots and nicer clothes, but she was emphatic: she should dress like a "lady Dean" -- that Dean probably broke into an army surplus store with her overnight and that's the sort of clothes she should be wearing.

so

jack should get guinea pigs and name them sam dean cas

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Cas is an escape artist. Jack will run in like, “Cas disappeared again help!!!!”

And Dean is like, “Wow, figures, typical.”

so

jack should get guinea pigs and name them sam dean cas

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