characters who Do Not deserve rights:
-yamamoto
-byakuya
-mayuri
-gin
-aizen
-szayel
-nnoitra
-ulquiorra
-isshin and ryuuken
-that homophobe from cfyow
-every quincy except uryu, ichigo, masaki, souken, karin, yuzu
-ginjo
-the entire central 46 and noble houses
-that ichibei bastard
i am not accepting criticism
*Breathes in* *Exhales* Here. We. Go.
If this Yamamoto thing if for the whole Save Rukia arc then just behr in mind that Yama has faithfully served the Soul Society for over a 1000 years. He’s not about to tear down his legacy for a single turncoat Shinigami. Keep in mind that he didn’t know her personally so as far as he was concerned, she was just another bad apple.
Byakuya redeemed himself multiple times. The whole Rukia execution thing was brought on by a conflict of oaths. Your hatred it unjustified.
Mayuri is a terrible person. No way around that. His one saving grace is restoring Toshiro, Kenpachi, and the Vizards
Love does crazy things to a man. Gin is no exception. If killing a few nameless Soul Reapers was what it takes to kill a super genius, all powerful, turncoat Soul Reaper then so be it. Gin becoming a traitor to kill Aizen and protect/avenge Rangiku is justified.
Aizen is a pretty bad guy, but he’s pretty much already been stripped of his rights.
Szayelapporo (spelled that right on my first try) is insane. Just put him on medication.
Nnoitora is the way he is because he hates himself. He’s angry because he hates himself. His situation is a complicated one.
Ulquiorra is also complicated. He doesn’t even understand the concept of emotion. The first real emotion he’s ever felt was love, and heartbreak. Love when he realizes his feelings towards Orihime. Then heartbreak when he dies knowing that her power could save him but she doesn’t because she knew he would continue fighting Ichigo. She chose Ichigo over him and he had to die knowing that. Sorry mate, I’m gonna have to give him a free pass.
Isshin is a creepy father but that’s all a cover for his Shinigami side which is his true self. Ryuuken did what he thought was good for Uryu. He didn’t want his son to prance around the city at night in a goofy white outfit fighting monster when he could be cut down by a Soul Reaper any moment. He wanted his son to have a normal, and prosperous life. Nothing wrong with that.
Don’t know what homophobe you’re talking about. I’ve been reading CFYOW and I have no idea who you’re talking about.
The Quincies had it rough. Most of them are guilty of nothing more than being on the losing side of a war. Even some of the worse ones are victims of past trauma. That doesn’t excuse their actions but it does mean that they need help. #YwhachDidNothingWrong
Ginjo maybe an asshole, but he’s guilty of nothing more than wanting justice for his friends deaths.
Central 46 are assholes. Idk why you hate the nobles for, they’re pretty irrelevant (except for Tsunayashiro, Shiba, and Kuchiki).
Literally no idea what Ichibei did.
I know I took this entirely too seriously but eh, whatever.
Being faithful to something doesn’t make you a good person
Byakuya made no effort to fix the system that almost killed his sister, blindly supported her execution, and is incredibly wealthy while people in Rukongai are starving to death
Mayuri is a horrible person whose every action is motivated by his own self-interest, which makes fascinating and generally very fun to watch, but ultimately still an awful person
Gin is my favorite character, but his bs is in no way justified - Matsumoto didn’t ask him to do any of that, and I think she would’ve preferred that he hadn’t. On top of that, he’s done absolutely horrible things for no reason at all, such as causing Rukia to have a breakdown for shits and giggles
Aizen shouldn’t be alive at all; Soul Society should be working on finding a way they can execute him
Szayel being crazy doesn’t justify shit. Most crazy people aren’t dangerous to others, and Szayel doesn’t show signs of real life mental illness so much as he shows signs of being a science-obsessed jackass
Nnoitra’s situation is not complicated. He’s a misogynistic pig and a sexual predator. No amount of “uwu self-hatred” makes that okay.
Whether or not Ulquiorra had feelings for Orihime isn’t relevant. He kidnapped, abused, and traumatized her. He also murdered her close friend/crush twice. He didn’t die knowing she chose someone else because there was never a choice for her to make - Orihime never once interacted with Ulquiorra because she wanted to; she was a prisoner and he was her guard.
“I did it for your own good” is something a lot of abusive parents say or tell themselves. It’s bullshit and it doesn’t justify abuse. If Isshin and Ryūken had wanted Ichigo and Uryū to be safe, they would have told them the truth
Dunno who the homophobe is; I haven’t read CFYOW yet
Attempted genocide isn’t okay no matter what. Regardless of how fucked up Soul Society is, the Quincies were awful too. Also, they’re pretty heavily Nazi-themed, to the point where Quilge Opie looks exactly like Himmler, so…. consider this Jew very uncomfortable
Ginjou had beef with Soul Society, not with Ichigo and his friends. Involving them at all wasn’t justified.
The nobles are all filthy rich. People in Rukongai starve to death on a daily basis. Fuck the nobles.
Ichibei could’ve shown up a helluva lot sooner and saved everyone some trouble, but I guess he was too busy painting or w/e
No being faithful isn’t inherently good. But he’s not a bad person either. He just has no tolerance for those who are enemies of the Soul Society, an organization he’s worked for over a 1000 years. He was compassionate to his allies, and hard on his enemies. He’s not good, nor is he bad. He’s a soldier.
Byakuya is based on the classic samurai. Being a samurai he’s all about honor. He made an oath on his parents’ grave which is an oath you strive to honor no matter what. Personally, I think he unconsciously threw the fight with Ichigo so Rukia would be saved and his oath would be kept. I still find it hard to believe that Ichigo during SS could defeat Byakuya.
Mayuri is an interesting character because he’s a bad person. No argument there.
Gin is the classic ‘you hurt my woman so I’m gonna kill your ass’ type character. Let’s be honest though, his encounter with Rukia was just put in to make us believe he was the villain. My guess is that he’s either not fond of the Kuchiki family, or did it to save face knowing that Aizen was probably watching him.
Aizen can’t be killed. He’s like Doomsday with genius intellect. And that chair of his had the adverse effect of making him stronger. Even Ywhach the most powerful being in their universe couldn’t kill him so good luck with that.
Szayal is literally the same thing as Mayuri. He’s just as likely to be good as he is bad. He’s a mad man.
Nnoitra is a very complex situation. When it boils down to it, he needed an ass beating and a therapist.
Ulquiorra was just as likely to be good as he was bad. He was a lonely Vasto Lorde who lacked the ability to talk and was an outcast even among his own kind. Imagine how different his situation would have been if he’d run into Kisuke instead of Aizen. He was abusive, but not intentionally so. If he was then he would’ve beaten Orihime within an inch of her life when she slapped him. He’s like a person who never developed properly as a child and I think he was intentionally written in that way. He was a tragic character, nothing more and nothing less.
Isshin and Ryuuken weren’t abusive. Isshin taught Ichigo martial arts the hard way so that when is powers awakened he could defend himself easier. Ryuuken tried to turn Uryu away from the Quincy lifestyle because of all the pain it brought him. He didn’t want his son being a Quincy because he knew it would be a hard and dangerous life. He wanted what he thought was best. Which is a little unwarranted because according to Ywhach, Uryu is technically the strongest character in Bleach.
I dunno who the homophobe is. If the original poster is talking about Tsunayashiro then yeah fuck him. He’s done a lot worse things than homophobia. Like having his own clan members killed then killing the assassins themselves. Abusing Hikone. And killing his wife, then nearly crippling her best friend Kaname. I wish Kaname had a redemption arc for the Blood War but I really wish he had one now. I would’ve loved to have seen him beat Tsunayashiro’s ass. I don’t know what Tsunayashiro’s zanpaktou does but between bankai, hollowfication, and resureccion (all together a 30x boost) he should be plenty powerful enough to beat Tokinada Tsunayashiro’s ass.
War isn’t genocide. And in all honesty you could argue that Ywhach did nothing wrong. They may have resembled Nazis but they obviously weren’t since they allowed colored people, that one dude that Kenpachi killed in like 0.2 seconds who was probably gay (Sternwritter Q the Question I think), and Giselle who is probably transgender according to Yumichika and Charlotte Coollhorne. (Probably butchered that dudes name but oh well.)
Ginjo did have beef with the Soul Society but he needed Ichigo’s powers to take them on because he wasn’t strong enough by himself. A weak motive but there is something else to consider. Ginjo probably resented Ichigo because Ichigo and his friends are accepted and even honored among the Soul Society and by Ukitake while Ginjo, and his friends were betrayed. Doesn’t justify but it makes it easier to understand why he did it.
The nobles are assholes but it really isn’t their job to take care of the Rukon district. It doesn’t matter though, most of Central 46 has been replaced after the Blood War and according to Captain Commander Kyorako, conditions have improved significantly along with relations with Hueco Mundo.
Ichibei isn’t a superhero. It’s not his job to crash down from the Soul Palace into the middle of the battle field and take on Ywhach head on. His job is to protect Soul King Reio. Ironically he failed at that too, but at least he tried. And it’s because of him and Squad 0 that Ichigo got as strong as he did. They also saved Rukia, Renji, and Byakuya. In truth he didn’t even have to do any of that. But again, not really his job.
He committed genocide. That’s inherently bad.
Exactly zero people asked him to make that vow. And in any case, he also made a vow to Hisana (who very much did ask) that he would protect Rukia. Trying to have her executed isn’t really keeping that promise.
I love Gin. I really, really do. But the reality of the situation is that Rangiku doesn’t belong to him, regardless of whether or not they had feelings for one another. He also cut Hiyori in half. The best possible explanation for his actions is that Aizen groomed him, which is very likely, but an explanation isn’t an excuse. He did horrible things and his backstory doesn’t justify that.
Aizen can’t be killed as far as anyone knows. If they figured out how to get the Hogyoku away from him, they might be able to kill him.
Szayel and Mayuri’s entire fight was based around how they had similarities on the surface but were in reality very different. Mayuri wants science for the sake of science. Szayel wants to be perfect. One has done good things (for self-serving reasons) and the other hasn’t even come close to doing anything remotely decent.
Nnoitra is a misogynistic pig and a sexual predator. He deserved what he got. No excuses for that fucker.
He was very much intentionally abusive. He calculated his words in an effort to break Inoue’s spirit and succeeded. Not beating the shit out of someone doesn’t make you a good person. The only tragic thing about Ulquiorra is how far people will go to excuse his shit.
Assaulting your kids is child abuse. There isn’t an excuse for that. Ryūken wanting what he thought was best isn’t an excuse either - lots of abusive parents tell themselves or their kids that to justify their behavior. It’s still abuse.
I assume that’s who the homophobe is as well, and yeah, fuck that guy.
“War isn’t genocide” no but wiping out an entire people because some of them are shitheads very much is. Also, “a couple of them had dark skin so they aren’t racist and therefore they aren’t nazi” yeah dude it’s called a parallel. And neither Giselle nor Charlotte are good representations of trans or gender nonconforming people.
Again, understanding someone’s reasons doesn’t mean their actions are acceptable. Kūgo fucked over a lot of people and no amount of “he was jealous” makes that okay.
Okay, then what the fuck are the nobles for? Decorative flower arrangements?
Aizen was going after the Soul King. Stopping him was absolutely a part of Ichibe’s job.
Aight I’m about to school your bitch ass
GeNoCiDe Is BaD… If war is genocide and genocide is inherently bad then the US and Russia are fucking monsters for tearing Nazi Germany and Japan a new one during WWII.
Byakuya is a samurai. He is honor bound to serve his family. His promise on his parents’ graves was the honorable thing to do. I you don’t understand that then I can’t help you. And your whole argument gets completely negged by the fact Byakuya managed to retain both his vows.
You know most of the Soul Reapers Gin killed were corrupt right? And the ones that weren’t pledged their lives to protect the Soul Society, which is what they did by being killed by Gin. Gin is every bit as justified as Itachi.
I hope Nnoitora comes back to life in the upcoming canon Espada light novel for that sole reason lmao. And I hope he comes back a 100x stronger Lmao.
Quincies aren’t nazis just because they look like them lmao. Kubo drew them like that to make them look like a bigger threat.
Oh yeah, and Kugo wasn’t jealous. That was a side dish compared to what really happened. Kugo’s squad was slaughtered by Soul Reapers because Tokinada wanted to. Kugo just wanted Ichigo’s powers to get revenge on the real bitch ass responsible for murdering his friends.
The nobles run the Soul Society.
imagine being so dull and unaccomplished in life that you have to come back to a months old thread to argue. shut up you racist misogynistic bastard lmao im blocking you now
I've got an alternate account, suck it. I left Tumblr in the first place because of the toxicity of this site's anime community. A friend from the Insta anime community, which is FAR less toxic than this whiny ass community, convinced me to defend Bleach as its rep. So here I am to ask you who the hell you think you are shitting on Bleach's characters? Where do you get off insulting them and, in turn, Kubo's work? This time try to give a coherent argument instead of defaulting to your favorite insults - which made absolutely no sense in this argument's context - and hiding behind the block button. (Which won't work because I've got another alt account after this one lmao.)















