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:3 but with two teeth in the middle
what a fella!!
The thing is if Barb is redeemed it kinda ruins cooperβs character. Because we have this character thatβs super bitter and cynical and itβs implied that heβs been betrayed deeply by someone so if thatβs not the case where does this bitterness and distrust of good and humanity come from???
Agreed. I found the s2 finale so underwhelming with so much retcon and regression on Barb and Coop/Ghoup especially. Does anyone else think that the finale felt more like a regular or penultimate episode?
The more of his humanity Ghoup is getting back the dumber he gets. "Stupid" choices were not done just pre-bombs but also in the present. He is not second guessing anything. Diving straight into the bargain to trade Lucy, thinking he would truly find his family in the cryo pods without suspecting any foul play from Hank all along, believing the world of fiction, as House is telling him, and getting all misty eyed and hopeful on the bs postcard, without second guessing any tricks and traps with that move either. What the hell happened to him and his once sharp character?? How contrived can the writers make Barb's character and Cooper/Ghoup's actions and blind devotion is beyond me. The finale felt as if the writing is being given the Star Wars sequels treatment and the writing of s2 is nowhere as great as s1.
There is no way Barb was not involved into tricking her husband in giving the diode to the President/Enclave. Perhaps what she did not anticipate is that they would come after him and he is willing to take the fall alone. What was she thinking when the Enclave made it clear to her how replaceable she is and they are holding her family's life on the line!?
I am expecting a twist where his family actually works for the Enclave and that he has been played all along. At least that would make for some substantial backlash to his naΓ―vetΓ©.
That little gun is the same one Coop used to kill the people Lucy shot in the ass in s2e1 -
AND it appears that the real life model it's based on is named "My Friend"
- which might have just made my heart grow three sizes. Coop shot Hank in the ass and then gave her this. Is it a quiet suggestion on what to do with her dad? Maybe. It's certainly what Coop would have done. But in the end, it's all up to her. The gun is simply a friend. Something that will help her at some point, whether she uses it to kill Hank or not. All she needs to do is keep it in those boots of hers, and it just might come through for her when she needs it.
Does it also metaphorically mean that Ghoup is telling her that he is considering Lucy his friend, in response to "I thought we were friends!", easing the betrayal a bit?
Glad you clocked that reference. The cinematography is top notch. π

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Season 3 Plot Theory
I was chatting with a friend about the finale and we had a thought on the impetus behind season 3 and honestly? This is just my wishlist but it does make sense.
OMG a team-up with Lucy and House is such good tea, no, wait, who am I kidding, it's a four-course meal!!! π
Imagine the "Justin Theroux and Ella Purnell yapping saga". House dropping exposition bombs (puns intended) left and right, bringing her up to speed with two centuries' worth of backstory, and I too really wish he's the one to wake Lucy up on Cooper's identity and that he was Vault-Tec's poster boy. House would be the one to expose the tea that Lucy means something to Ghoup or that she has changed him in some way.
Now I really need a post-finale fanfic with these two stat!
Barb and enclave
This is mind blowing post where you can read about her motivation and I think it`s on point!!! When I read it and talked in the comments with @realityisforpplwhocantdream I think i finally understand something. Not all but something⦠About cold fusion, enclave, House, Barb, Moldaver and Cooper.
Start of the season 2... Moldaver is strangely well "informed" about Vault-tec plans, about Barb`s next move and she tells Cooper that House want cold fusion and in exchange will give bombs to Vault-tec and he would press the button. And want Cooper to kill him. But when Barb speaks with false House he said that he gives them control devices for cold fusion, not bombs. So why Moldaver think of bombs?
Cooper go to Vegas with his wife and Hank. He wants to talk with House, not kill him. When he meet him House told Cooper about the third player. And then after 200 years House told him that Cooper should have brought cold fusion to him. Why? Because House knows everything, including that Cooper knows about bombs and talking with Moldaver(and she wants him dead), and House figured out that Barb and Hank wont give him cold fusion, but will give it to enclave. He knows that president will be in Vegas too and he knows that president with enclave. And he figured out that to do that they need House dead. I think House thought that if he push some Coopers buttons, he will interfere with his wife and prevent transfer of the cold fusion to enclave and maybe even would be smart enough to bring cold fusion to House.
And Cooper did interfere, but Barb manipulated Cooper so that he completed the deal himself and handed over cold fusion to enclave himself.
And they didn`t even need to kill House anymore because cold fusion was stolen oopsie!!
(Cooper talked with wife and goes for Hank. Barb play along with Cooper, help him extract cold fusion, let him tell about it to Welch, and then kiss him before he give it to president. That`s just brilliant)
So what I thought is⦠Either Moldaver with enclave and it would explain why she`s alive after 200 years and why she knew Wilzig, or she was fed false information from someone from enclave. Hank maybe? And enclave manipulated her and wanted her to take the action and organize House assassination and insure transfer of the cold fusion to enclave and not House. Or she did this voluntarily if she sincerely thought that enclave wanted to stop Vault-tec and end of the world but she was manipulated all the same
I think Barb as enclave agent goes behind of the back of the Vault-tec and plan to transfer cold fusion to enclave but to do that House must be neutralized and here is where Moldaver plays her part. But maybe Barb didnt expect that Moldaver will drag her husband to it. And when she realized that he is involved she decides to use him and sacrifice him because as Steph said "the future is bigger than us"... he did all the work and took all the blame. Enclave got cold fusion, Barb stays at Vault-tec unsuspected, and got real good vault spots at the enclave for herself and for Janey. Cooper didnt know and didnt realize all of this and that's why he look for them at the Vault-tec vaults and didn't find any info. There is a chance that it was Hank behind all of this but I`d like to think that Barb plays much bigger role in the whole plot and not just someone`s pawn.
Very relevant points. Agreed. The way things unfolded, Barb is playing Coop and acting as a double agent. The Enclave holds Janey and herself on the line --- at this point the family unit can be sacrificed, i.e., Coop is the sacrifice. If anything, she wants Janey safe.
And given this season was so rushed, they really glossed over onto how Coop decides to approach Diane Welch, the fact that Coop bailed Diane out of jail, how he and Barb decide to approach Diane in the first place....all the bts conversations between them two, basically. How and why did Diane end up being the mainframe in the Vegas vault? Was it the Enclave, was it Vault Tec, was it House ?
Rambles, Rants, and Spoilers on FO season 2 π€
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Ok, so, the finale left me with an empty feeling and lot of plot points that don't add up or have dumbed down certain characters.
Pacing and execution
My main beef with this season is the pacing and wasted efforts on side plots and characters that we didn't need instead of focusing on key plots and fleshing them properly.
The incest club and water chip scenario could have been cut down to a few scenes that explain the situation of Vault 33 in a more succinct way, thereby cutting the bs.
Norm and the 31 Vaulties needed better execution. Why didn't he tell them he's the son of Hank Maclean is beyond me. If he by now knows his father is pre-bombdrop, would his name hold weight on Ronnie and folk? Norm briefly says his name on the radio when asking for help, but there's no reaction from Claudia - I get that she's a newbie - or Ronnie and the others, who might have been in earshot before they caught them at the radio. No interrogation as to who he is or anything. Their arrogance got its comeuppance, but that plot armor on Norm and Claudia is thick!
Time and Lucy
The show does not give an idea of the passage of time at all. How long has it been since Lucy left the vault in season 1? Weeks? Months? So many qestions on the passage of time.... For example, from a feminine perspective, and in genuine curiosity, did Lucy even have her period or could she be pregnant with Monty's child? (Imagine if her breeding enthusiasm comes biting her in the ass now. It is a huge possibility.)
How was she handling her time in the Wasteland night after night, bodily functions and all. It was all portrayed hunky dory, and I'm bummed out, like so many others, that her interactions with Ghoup during night time, camping, etc. were not shown, to have an idea of their dynamic even further. How has she been digesting all the trauma and revelations, her inner thoughts on the past, her mother, "her makers", which Ghoup promised her to "come meet". I feel disappointed that the writing is keeping her facing moral dilemmas and still fixated on the golden rule. She really needs to crash out and release her built-up rage properly and start getting used to the rule of the wasteland. All the stuff they did with her in s2 went nowhere, except that she's "good for heads" when it's just ghouls.
Ghoup leads with the heart now...(insert brain somewhere)
I also feel sour about the way the writing handled Cooper/the Ghoul in the past and present. He has been making "stupid" decisions left and right, and the storyline of finding his family is really overstaying its welcome at this point. With all this buildup in finding B and J now pushed into s3, I hope they deliver something subtantial in the end and we get a really good twist, for better or for worse.
He practically handed Lucy over to Hank based on a whole lie. Lucy straight up told him they could not put trust in the "bargain ". I get it that between his family and Lucy he chose the lesser evil, esp. now that he was so close to his family, but he never seems to put into question whether this was all Hank's ploy and bluff ---which, hello, ding ding ding!!!--- it really was a bluff and B and J were not in Vegas to begin with! Come on, his calculating instincts should be better than this after 219 years wastelanding!!
Down to the friggin' Colorado bs postcard, which could have been an Enclave / Hank planted gimmick to lure him to them with open invitation. For all we know it could have been House himself to get him going and help out against the competing, dangerous Enclave; a proposition which he shot down immediately, because it is not his war and he is fixated on finding his family at the detriment of anyone else and common sense. So now we have Ghoup precipitating to Colorado, alone, without a word to who he left behind (with Lucy he seems to be cutting ties and reverting back to calling her "Vaultie", because he is solely fixated on his mission and scope for existing). He is practically headed to Colorado based on his hunch that the princesses are alive and in another castle. The execution has been rushed so much that they are not giving the show time to breathe and these once-smart characters time to digest what is going on before diving head-first into dangerous territory.
He got Dogmeat with him on his solo mission. So to find the dog he must have passed the people, Thad, and the NCR in Vegas, since Dogmeat was with the people at the shop during the Deathclaw/Max fight. Someone might have seen Ghoup (leave). But again, everything is rushed and done off screen.
Barb the wild card
Is the writing seriously dumbing down Barb's nefarious involvement with Vault Tec and the Enclave as a mere woman under pressure from "worse people than" herself, making her do a hard-to-swallow 180 and help her husband practically deliver cold fusion to the very same entity threatening her and her family!??? Come on!!! She is now letting Coop taking the fall, for Janey. It's all been about Janey, not the family unit, down to the friggin' birthdate and framing of her teary eye, with the pupil centred on Janey in the photograph.
The Enclave has eyes and ears everywhere and they have been pulling the strings and holding Barb on a leash, so this complete 180 from Barb to go against the Enclave and seemingly helping Coop with handing the MaGguffin to the President (presumably not knowing he is one with the Enclave) and acting all surprised when Coop is arrested and taking the fall is really not adding up. Because if she were actually oblivious about the President's involvement, would she still take such a risk and shake the Enclave's cage in such careless manner, putting Janey at risk!? Come on, Barb, you're smarter than this. So no, I do not buy her actions, least of all the planted postcard that we are supposed to think she had the foresight to leave for a husband wastelanding and surviving for two centuries. It all looks like fresh plans from an-all-seeing organisation who has been pulling the strings and planting acolytes all over the Wasteland. Even if it was recent and Barb is out and about planting clues, what is the end goal here exactly? Luring her devoted husband to enemy territory? The worst thing is Ghoup rushing over to Colorado without a plan or second thought. What the hell???
Hank and the automation chips
The "sacrifice" scene is tearjerkingly brilliant, no questions asked. Phenomenal acting by Kyle and Ella. My question is about the chips themselves and the ones sent out in the wasteland. The subjected folk within the vault were automated based on Diane Welch's personality, if I understood that correctly (and at risk of oversimplifying how they work), so with Diane as mainframe having been offed and shut down, what happened to all those people inside? Are they affected in any way? Is the chip on Hank and the ones he sent out carrying Diane's personality or does the device simply erase your memory and you're subjected to whichever orders you're given? What is automated Hank's personality now? Docile Diane or just Hollow Hank? (Here, again, I wonder if there is a twist and the small device does not have a lasting effect....Or whether he is faking it....π) And where did Lucy and Max leave Hank before they went inside Lucky 38? Did they leave him unguarded on the steps staring into the abyss before someone acknowledges him? Again, rushed!
Stank
Steph and Hank, hoooo boy! The guy has been catching wives like Pokemon. I am curious to learn of the conversation between those two when Steph was woken up from her Vault 31 cryo and finding Hank with Rose and two offspring, and she has to play along, make friends with his daughter, marry Bert and have his child. Is her boy even Bert's??
(Edit update: Steph was likely woken up a couple of years or so before the s1 pilot, still young-looking and befriending Lucy, marrying Bert, and getting pregnant, so Rose was way out of the picture at that point. But I do wonder, as viciously diabolical as Steph can be, how her conversation with Hank went down that he had kids with someone else and not woken her up way sooner to carry on plans/experiments side by side.)
Max and Thad
Last but not least. I love those two, and their character development. It is good to see Max doing his own thing, away from the BoS poison, and being a good man, as his father told him. He is now a true knight, and most importantly earned. Thad brings the right amount of levity in any given situation. I hope we get to enjoy him more before he mutates further (into Centaur or whatever other possibility).
And btw, Thad took the shot using his (now healed) left foot, the very same foot Max had crushed in s1. Those ironic touches and callbacks are pure art. π
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I have other points but this rant has gone long enough and I love this show and the FO franchise immensely that the above were glaring to me since the finale aired and I mulled them over before writing this post. Any errors or any detail in the show that I may have read wrong is on me.
I am hoping for juicy twists in s3 and, most of all, that the handling of key characters is written with depth and room to breathe and the episodes are not cramped with too many characters.
That step towards him before she pauses.
She has so much to say to him but she doesn't know what & I would LOVE to know what's going through her head when she sees him.
But I think she was surprised that he was there AND he saved her. This has dispelled any animosity she might have felt towards him.
His walls are back up & his mission focus is back on track, back to being formal by addressing her as 'vaultie', but that doesn't change the fact that she has torn him wide open (literally as well as figuratively) and a tiny bit of the man he once was is peering out.
We, the audience know that he cares about her and this further proves it. He's made up (partly) for his betrayal and right now, that's all he can give her because his desire to find his family is burning hot & he can't stay with her.
This new parallel was small but significant. The camera focuses on his feet as he passes over his little boot gun and I can't help but see it as a gift from him - a goodbye gift, because he probably thinks he won't see her again - as well as a weapon to do the job she needs to do.
And by doing so, he's kept his distance and giving her space to allow her to make her choice - HER choice. Not what he thinks she should do, not what anyone else wants her to do, just what SHE wants to do. What she thinks is the right thing.
That level of respect from him is in itself a gift.
Lol it's so cute.
I hope Lucy holds onto this and keeps it as a reminder of him & everything she learnt from him until they meet again and perhaps she'll try to give it back, but he'll tell her to keep it.
Although the show robbed them of a proper reunion, there are glimmers here and there that this is just the end of one chapter of their story and next time they meet, they'll be happy to see each other.
If anyone can gif the moment she looks at the boot gun while Hank is rambling outside Lucky 38, you can see all nuanced emotions in Lucy's expressions and for a moment she looks farther in the distance, all torn between her father's gaslighting and dissillusional manipulation and the new reveal of automated people sent out there with orders of his secret plan set in motion, her conflict about whether to off or automate him while looking at the gun, and I bet a wave hits her with thoughts about the Ghoul who just saved her and left her with a gift and a choice.
The focus on the gun and the necrotic finger and her reactions and looks into the distance while devastated about Hank's reveal of his plan already set out into the Wasteland spoke volumes to me as equally as Lucy's and Ghoup's brief reunion. She is at a complete loss at that moment.
And of course, after losing her father, she is briefly alone and her world comes crushing down, and Max could not enter at a better moment to be her lifeboat at the worst of times, which you can see in her exhale of relief while hugging him.
Like other ghoulcies, I would have loved for Ghoup to be still there and be the one to embrace her at this critical moment, but I get what the writers are doing with each character's focus and mission, (although this season was way too cramped with pointless characters and side plots for just 8 episodes).
β¨Beautiful ghoulciesβ¨ this episode was JUICY
The MUTUAL RESPECT
The EQUALITY
The RECOGNITION
After a tenuous journey of pushing and pulling, of tension and conflict, they have finally met in the middleβin the eye of the stormβonly to be pulled in different directions, drawn apart by the demands of their individual duties. To see their missions through.
But they are equals now, each stripped of their disillusions and facades.
The way they looked at each other...so raw and honest. Full of conviction.
Truly seeing each other for the first time.
Cooper now knows Lucy in a way that no one else can, has seen her at her worst. And Lucy has seen Cooper for the man he is, hiding under the mask. They know each other in ways no one else ever has. They hold each other's secrets.
This is important. It lays the foundation for the future, for an inevitable coming together of two equal forces, forever changed by the other.
These are the seeds being planted in a bed of angst, fear, uncertainty, conflicting allegiances, and desires.
And Cooper's salute to Lucy is so charged, it said so many things without needing any wordsβ"I see you." "I respect you." "Thank you." and "Good bye."
And Lucy's expression is raw, honest, and pleadingβsaying "I'm sorry." "I understand now." as she takes a hesitant step toward him.
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Remember that enemies to lovers stories often move slow, and you have to lay the groundwork for the tension and drama that make the payoff so worth it when it does finally come. This is the meat and bones of enemies to lovers. These are the good bits that make it what it is. We're in the thick of it. π

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is lucy is going to be looking longingly at the gun cooper gave to her before leaving her without a word
So Ghoup left a couple of weapons behind, the gun he gave Lucy and his (trademark) knife he threw into the former Legionary's head.
COOPER SAVING LUCY FROM HANK OHHHH I SHRIEKED!!!! HIM SAYING HEβD KILL HANK IF IT WAS UP TO HIM BUT GIVING LUCY THE CHOICE!!! HIM GIVING HER A CHOICE AFTER HER OWN FATHER TRIED TO TAKE AWAY HER ABILITY TO CHOOSE!
And Hank made the choice for her ultimately.
If Hank uses this chip on Lucy before she can reunite with The Ghoul β¦β¦ Iβll never log out of AO3 ever again π
My two cents...
While this scene (or teaser-spliced-reaction-shots) had me concerned initially, I am now actually having a hunch that we might get a repeat of the season 1 finale with Lucy and Hank at a standoff and Ghouper intervenes with a gun....
....although, with all that talk of him questioning her what she intends to do once they find "yo' daddy", with her shooting Hank in the ass and leaving to Ghoup to shoot him in the head....I think this will be the point where Ghoup leaves the choice to HER.
Is there any more thought of bringing her father to justice in Lucy's newfound morals and dilemmas?
Who will take THE shot?
Is it possible that we will see this come full circle?
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Can someone answer that phone???
Because I fudging
CALLED IT!
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and props to Hank for not leaving the choice up to his daughter eventually.
he got his yodel back
On another note, since the scene with Ghoup and Lucy leaving the NCR camp, I had been wondering what Walton was doing with his right hand in that scene and I suspected it was a training command for Dogmeat to stay by his side (or "heel" as dog owners and trainers refer to it), since the dog was out of frame in that scene.
But here, in this scene, it is evident, again doing it with his left hand while the dog checks and stays/walks by his left side.
Nice touch.
He's holding Lana 5's leash lol. They green-screened it to make it look like it wasn't there. I had wondered that too, so i replayed all the scenes that the dog is walking next to him. His hand is exactly as you hold a leash lol, like when you've go the handle part around your wrist with the first, middle, and ring fingers through the loop and the pinky and thumb outside the loop. I hold my dog's leashes like this all time time just because I feel like I've got a better hold on them. I've actually been slowly compiling gifs on this because once I figured it out, I can't unsee it.
Lol, even better. I was suspecting whether it is a hand command or an invisible something, so a green-screened leash makes sense. π How cute! If there was any bts footage with Walton and Lana, then I still need to check it out. All I heard was, I think it was from Ella, that Lana prefers Walton. π
Pip boy
I am surprised the pip boys barely played a part in season 2. No warning signs of radiation in any scene, whether it's Lucy's, Norm's, or any of the Vault 31's. I was expecting a bit of tension with Vault 31 exploring the wasteland tbh, although they're getting their cumuppance with the radroaches in the finale.
Is Lucy's pip boy going to spike now that Ghoup has uranium in his body?

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he got his yodel back
On another note, since the scene with Ghoup and Lucy leaving the NCR camp, I had been wondering what Walton was doing with his right hand in that scene and I suspected it was a training command for Dogmeat to stay by his side (or "heel" as dog owners and trainers refer to it), since the dog was out of frame in that scene.
But here, in this scene, it is evident, again doing it with his left hand while the dog checks and stays/walks by his left side.
Nice touch.
Is Lucy going to abondon her Vault-Tec suit for something more practical for the wasteland from here on?
If the yellow dress did indeed belong to Barb, as some have suggested, can you imagine Ghoup helping her out of the dress or at least with the zipper at the back (either the dress is left behind or....who knows) and she goes to acquire or don a change of clothes from somewhere and surprises him as she steps out or walks to him in a cowgirl-looking outfit, hat included, to match his.
You know, "family, family, family"...