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Daemon reminding Rhaenyra once again why she's in the position she is now.

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i don't believe a single thing septon eustace says about rhaenyra⦠especially the part of aegon refusing the throne because it's rhaenyraās birthright
Thing is, this claim is contradicted several times in the book:
The enmity between Queen Alicent and Princess Rhaenyra was passed on to their sons, and the queenās three boys, the Princes Aegon, Aemond, and Daeron, grew to be bitter rivals of their Velaryon nephews, resentful of them for having stolen what they regarded as their birthright: the Iron Throne itself.
F&B: Heirs of the Dragon
So Aegon is said to be resentful of Rhaenyra's boys for stealing what he regards as his birthright, but suddenly, when the usurpation comes, he magically regards the throne as Rhaenyra's birthright and is totally fine with it passing to her and her sons by extension?
He's supposedly reluctant to take the crown, and yet also impatient to be King:
Prince Aegon had grown weary of secrecy. āAm I a king or no?ā he demanded of his mother. āIf I am king, then crown me."
F&B: The Dying of the Dragons
And most importantly, he doesn't hesitate to immediately demand Rhaenyra's head when he hears of her coronation.
āMy half-sister and my uncle are guilty of high treason,ā the young king declared. āI want them attainted, I want them arrested, and I want them dead.ā
F&B: The Dying of the Dragons
Meanwhile, Rhaenyra immediately offers pardons to her half-siblings and places the blame for the usurpation on Alicent and Otto.
Her first act as queen was to declare Ser Otto Hightower and Queen Alicent traitors and rebels. āAs for my half-brothers and my sweet sister, Helaena,ā she announced, āthey have been led astray by the counsel of evil men. Let them come to Dragonstone, bend the knee, and ask my forgiveness, and I shall gladly spare their lives and take them back into my heart, for they are of my own blood, and no man or woman is as accursed as the kinslayer.ā
F&B: The Dying of the Dragons
Like it shouldn't even be that hard to believe Aegon wanted this. He's grown up in a culture where sons are always valued over daughters and has heard time and time again he should inherit form his Mother's side and a good chunk of her supporters. And now, he finds himself second to a woman and what he perceives as baseborns. That's like the perfect recipe for aggrieved entitlement.
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All of the other people in this fandom who claim "xyz Targaryen better than Daenerys" forget one single most important thing, each and every one of those Targaryens serve as a plot device and buildup to explain her ancestry.
Lets not forget the first Targaryen we meet is DANY, in mix with a mention of Aegon the Conqueror, the first Targaryen GRRM created was HER, not her brother or any other Targaryen, HER, she is the one they have dreamt of their whole dynasty, including Aegon, she is the one who brings the dragons back and you best believe she will fulfil the prophecy
also this is much needed, I need people to understand that the reason she's able to hatch those Dragon eggs doesn't have anything to do with her being a Targaryen, because many have tried before her and failed (Horribly at that) but the reason she's able to hatch them is because she's the Prince who was Promised, she is Azor Ahai.

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Why are people so defensive about Rhaenyra being fat? Literally, she, Aegon, and Helaena inherited Viserys's genes, unlike Aemond and Daeron who are thin like Alicent. I don't think there's anything wrong with the first three being fat; back then it was a sign that they lived a good and prosperous life.?
Because in the books (and real life) her weight is not a sign of empowerment and is usually only brought up to diminish her, to ridicule her, to mock and bully her every single time it's brought up.
I'm on the fence about it. On one hand, I really don't care. Obsessing over someone's body is weird, and the books don't really go into great detail about how everyone looks. It's mentioned like twice (from what I can remember, it's likely propaganda) and its used to compare her to Alicent, who was supposedly "chaste and slim" despite having four kids and being twice her age, and once to ponder if men would still fight for Rhaenyra now that she wasn't a hot, slim teenager anymore. It's not that significant of a plot point to me personally. On the other, I'm aware that people want representation for all corners.
Exactly. Comments about her weight are one of the more egregious examples of overt mysoginy in F&B that reduced her, and Alicent to their appearance and assigned them moral virtue based on it. Rhaenyra stayed big after pregnancies meaning she was a disgusting, morally bankrupt glutton, while Alicent stayed skinny, and perfectly in line with patriarchal beauty standards, which make her the symbolic representation of virtuous patriarchal womanhood. (And ofc Rhaenyra was jealous of her for being skinny cause a woman can only hate another woman cause she's secretly jealous that said woman is prettier than her)
And this is how a good chunk of the fandom sees it too. Rhaenyra's weight is usually brought up to denigrate her, and paint her in a negative light. No joke, I've seen someone online compile a list of sins Rhaenyra comitted during the dance and her 'being fat' was not only listed as a sin, but also ranked on the same level as her treatment of Nettles and allyship with Dalton Greyjoy.
And this is because excess weight is often conflated with moral bankruptcy. So Rhaenyra's weight is often grossly exaggerated, to a point where you have completely inaccurate art and edits made of her, while the artwork made in direct collaboration with George is routinely ignored and dismissed:
This artwork was made by the artist Amok, after directly consulting with GRRM to get Rhaenyra's exact physical description. So we can say that this is one of the more accurate renditions of how he intended to her to look; heavy chested, stout and thick of waist.
Also known as thicker than a bowl of oatmeal, but I don't think that would sound good in a medieval fantasy book.
Meanwhile, fans who cry about 'book accuracy" regularly make edits like these:
(Image in the top right corner is an edit from the movie 'the Whale' that follows the struggles of a morbidly obese man)
A lot of this discourse isn't about her being "closer to cannon" or having representation (which would have been great to see, especially if they had stuck to the book, and portrayed her Aegon, Helaena and Viserys as plumper). It's about them equating weight to moral worth and wanting to make Rhaenyra not only overweight, but grossly overweight (like way more than her cannon self) so that the audience can see her 'for what she is' aka a disgusting land whale who deserves to be scorned and punished for being a disgusting land whale (I feel nauseous writing this)
This is why only Rhaenyra's weight is discussed. No one brings up Aegon being big, or makes similar artworks or edits of him; and if he is mentioned as being bigger, they defend it, saying how he only got that way cause he was wounded, depressed and couldn't do much (as if Rhaenyra having kids and growing out of being a literal teen aren't also totally valid). Likewise, Helaena is similarly never discussed, even though she too is described as plump and plain for a Targaryen Princess.
And the reason for this is because they're intended to be seen as the right side: the patriarchal status quo, that's moral and good. And you can't have the good guy, aka the archetypal masculine Prince trying to reclaim 'his birthright' be portrayed as fat. Likewise, his wife is the model of perfect patriarchal womanhood, one who is solely defined through her role as a happy wife, and Mother (aka the only thing thats acceptable for a woman to be), so the weight thing must be ignored or dismissed.
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Nettles is Daemonās daughter and absolutely no one can convince me otherwise. First of all, her personality is incredibly similar to Daemonās mother, Alyssa, which I donāt think is a coincidence. Both are anything but refined and ladylike, Alyssa is āas bawdy a wench as any barmaid in Kingās Landing, as she herself was fond of boastingā, Nettles is āa filthy girl with an even filthier mouthā, both are tearawayĀ tomboys, they are both described as not conventionally attractive, Alyssa has a broken nose and mismatched eyes while Nettles has a scarred nose and crooked teeth. And not only Alyssa, but also Baelonās bravery, bopping Balerion on the nose, Baela and Daemonās personalities all echo in Nettles, particularly in how she tames Sheepstealer. There are too many similarities between them for it to be random.
Second of all, if we look at Daemonās reaction to āRhaenyraāsā letter, thereās something a lot of people miss:
The prince greeted me politely, but as he read I saw the joy go from his eyes, and a sadness descended upon him, like a weight too heavy to be borne. When the girl asked what was in the letter, he said, āA queenās words, a whoreās work.ā
He was happy when he got a letter from his queen and wife, but became very sad when he read its contents, he was crushed with grief. He then blamed Mysaria for the content of the letter. This reveals several things:
1. If he lost attraction to Rhaenyra and was cheating on her, why would he be happy to get her letter ?
2. If he didnāt care about Rhaenyra, why would he be sad instead of angry ? Why did he feel no guilt or shame, or try to cover up the truth if he was cheating ?
3. If all he wanted to do was control Rhaenyra as a puppet, if he only cared about himself having power, why didnāt he fly back to Kingās Landing after letting Nettles escape and come up with a way to gaslight Rhaenyra, who at this point was beginning to lose her handle on Kingās Landing ? Wouldnāt he have wanted to prioritize winning the war ? Persuade Rhaenyra to name their son Aegon heir instead of Joffrey ?
4. A āweight too heavy to be borne.ā That isnāt the reaction of a man who got caught cheating and regrets it, itās the reaction of a man devastated that his queen and wife lost faith in him and made him choose between her and his daughter.
He blames Mysaria for the letter, instead of getting angry at Rhaenyra herself. Why is that ? Because he lived with Rhaenyra in an unconventional joint family for a decade and yet Rhaenyra is unable to accept Nettles and doesnāt trust him anymore. Rhaenyra and Daemon raised all of their children together. He likely expected that heād be able to officiallyĀ introduce Nettles as his daughter after the war. But those plans were dashed terribly.
Yeah, it's exhausting to point out all of the things you say abt Mysaria, Nettles, and Daemon time and time again over the past few years to people. As for Nettles being Daemon's bio daughter, I truly believe in it. At first I was like "š¤Ø" but then "š¤" and now I've been on board for a while. It just makes sense to me, esp when you contemplate that Daemon absolutely would have been sleeping around on Rhea while a few feet/miles from the Stepstones or slept with some pirate or whatever. And yes, it adds so much to see Nettles act Baela-Daemon-like or have more...room to behave contrary to the ideal "lady" when she's had to look out for herself perhaps from very young childhood.

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Bitch your entire house is Targaryen lite without dragons but just as inbredā ļøyour favs are r@pists and child k*ll*rs, they sell the women of their house like broodmares, sure the men of Valyria who are in hell now did too, but that doesn't mean your house is any better or something š«µš¤£ Dany will outlive all your favs, Dany at the beginning of the series was richer than Tywin in his final years, piss off
sorry but i'm soo obsessed with robert keeping the dragon skulls in the dungeons after he wins. it's a sign of triumph, and a sign of continuity. what's left of the targaryens is bones. we will build our house atop the dead things that once made you gods
What Robert's actual feelings are (lifelong obsessing over the fact that Targaryens are still out there and out to get him, or even the fact that he counts his win against Rhaegar as empty) would say otherwise.
The skulls in the dungeon are the tell-tale hearts beneath the floorboards driving him insane.
#the dragon skulls as robertās tell-tale heart is such a good reading#at the end of his life his brothers are preparing to tear their house apart for the throne#none of his children have his name and only one or two knows heās their father#the children who do have his name arenāt his (cersei āate his heirsā not only because of his abuse but also because of his inability#to let go of the past and value her as much as an idealized dead girl) and theyāre all going to die#robertās triumph is short-lived and hollow and he doesnāt build anythingāhe canāt he wonāt#this makes cersei wearing targaryen colors for her mourning dress so much funnier and richer also#robert baratheon#asoiaf
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When Ormund gave that Pro-Andal anti Valyrian speech to Daeron, it confirmed all that you said about the faith of the seven.
I knew I wasnāt tripping. Itās literally colonial Catholicism dressed up as something holy to indoctrinate the smallfolk. People will really say the Targaryens are colonizers well, whoopty-doo. They assimilated because they knew how much of a racial and religious war it would have been if they hadnāt. To fit the actual definition of a colonizer, you have to completely erase the spiritual and religious foundation of the people you are colonizing. Very strong examples of this are chattel slavery and the forced assimilation schools that harmed the indigenous children of the Americas.
This all ties in with the history of grooming and sexual abuse that many children face in real life. There are even fictional examples of this in House of the Dragon: Daeron and Alicent Hightower. The Faith of the Seven is an infiltrating religion and is indeed seen as a "proper lifestyle" for the day to day Westerosi. It makes no sense to label a house as colonizers when they have daughters as septas, and when about two of their kings and some of their queens were deeply invested in the Faith of the Seven. At this point, itās the blind leading the blind. And if we're going to bring up victims of the Faith of the Seven's colonialism, itās House Targaryen and practically every smallfolk who has been brainwashed into believing their rubbish.
The moral of the context is religious freedom and the abuse that comes with being manipulated, enforced, and assimilated into a religion. Practically every fictional religion and real-world religion would be less problematic if they would just get rid of the abuse within it.
I genuinely cannot believe in the big 2026 weāre getting people PROUDLY supporting the religious zealots of Westeros.
Mind you GRRM is an atheist and actively criticizes organized religion as a whole, yet here Ryan Condal and all of the Targ-antis go because they think itās some kind of flex to be religiously indoctrinated for centuries as long as youāre not the evil silver haired lizard people!
Better Men: Bias and Bastardy in the Blackfyre Rebellion, Part 3
I tried to keep this post from turning into a general deep dive into Lord Bloodraven, the biggest greatest of bastards and the newest of my favorite characters. Given the subject matter of this series of posts and what we know about the character so far, thereās a lot to explore. Iāve tried to limit this one to the characterās relationship to his own difference and how that influences his thinking.
White as bone were the skin and hair of Brynden Rivers, and his eye - he had only the one, the other having been lost to his half brother Bittersteel at the Battle of Redgrass Field - was red as blood. On cheek and neck he bore the winestain birthmark that had given him his name. (TMK)
In some ways, the Lord Hand is a fairly straightforward exploration of the concept of stigma. His face bears a literal mark, which defines his social identity to a point where heās publicly named for it - a name referencing an animal, no less.
Straightforward,perhaps,but far from simple.This is a complicated subject, inhabited by a very complicated character.
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[ā¦] One that hasnāt been suggested, as far as I can tell, is sincere philosophical opposition. A Blackfyre victory is not only a victory for Daemon, but a massive cultural push toward this Prom King of the Seven Kingdoms ābetter manā ideology. Itās not hard to imagine why Brynden Rivers would want to oppose that. If the just and peaceable King Daeron II, with the might of the Iron Throne behind him, can be overthrown because he doesnāt fit the masculine ideal, what place will there be for someone whose deviation from this ideal is literally all over his face? Ā If hostility toward the Rhoynar proves this potent a motivation to warfare, whatās next? The Dornish at least keep the Andal faith, which is no small thing; whoās to say that this new regime wonāt want a new enemy to rally people against and decide that those weirdo tree-worshippers are a convenient target? I donāt think his motivations were predominantly about principle or self-preservation, but at the same time, if you were in his shoes, wouldnāt you fight tooth and nail to resist that?
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Bloodraven is a bastard in an era where bastardy is a social flash point, he is a warg in a world of disappearing magic, he is an albino in a world where divergence from a physical ideal is treated as a moral failing. At some point, covering (as I hypothesized that Daeron may) or trying to kick down the door into Normalcy (as Daemon and Bittersteel definitely do) becomes corrosive, self-destructive, utterly exhausting. There is nobody else like Bloodraven, and he lives like somebody who knows it.
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Archery is thought to be below knights, supposedly because it isnāt considered to bring too much glory. As a skill, itāsĀ literallyĀ worth less in their world[ā¦] The more cynical explanation for this cultural attitude is that itās bluntly classist: people can make pretty effective bows and arrows and even learn to use them on their own, they allow people to be valuable in battle even if they canāt afford expensive armor and well-kept horses, and once those same people leave the battlefield they can also use those bows and arrows to feed themselves. Brute strength is less important, which means maleness and able-bodiedness are nowhere near as much of an advantage as they are in more āhonorableā fights. And what does Bloodraven use to strike down foes? AĀ weirwood bow. Foreshadowing things to come, yes, but I suspect the character made this choice precisely because of its symbolism.
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But the main issue is, look how much of this is scapegoating and outright dehumanization, and how little of it is based on actual events. āHe killed his half-brother and nephews on the battlefield" - fair enough, if stripped of the context of Daemonās kinslaying intent, but then - āand then he made the plague happen and killed the half-brother he was fighting for! Oh, and Baelor Breakspear, who hundreds of reputable sources saw someone else kill! Oh, yes, and somehow he did this overly-complicated magical feticide but still GOT CAUGHT doing it even though he is magical and all-powerful! Also LOOK AT HIS GROSS FACE!ā As long as he lives under his own name, heās going to be demonized. What he looks like is sufficient ammunition against him; if he starts hiding his appearance, he outs himself as a sorcerer, because the way he looked before is very memorable. This exists in dialogue with the social bias that lumps him in with his mortal enemies.
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Whatās especially impressive and engaging and above all unusual about this character is that he could, if he wants,Ā coverĀ more effectively than anyone else. He could disappear into the libraries with Aerys; he could either pretend not to have his affinity with ravens or choose to be one full-time. He can pass himself off as a Plumm ā or for that matter, probably the Lannister or Tyrell of his choice ā or any other person whose skin and hair and eye(s) donāt draw attention. His shape-shifting abilities could be read as a metaphor for the ability to cover, which is learned so well by stigmatized people. But as Melisandre tells us, glamours take a toll. Even with the means to do it, he refuses to crouch defensively and use his abilities to coddle other peopleās biases and deny his own identity. He inhabits his own skin, and he throws people by forcing them to meet him on his terms. If people construe your existence as offensive, then the best defense is to give offense. This is radically different from the āwear it like armorā attitude Tyrion Lannister tries to take. Armor is defensive. Armor, like glamors, is something that you put on when necessary but is dead weight to carry when not. Bloodraven wears his difference like a set of brass knuckles. You might resent him for refusing to play by the established rules ā but youāll watch your mouth or lose some teeth.
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When someone who is outside of society is above it and okay with it, then thereās no need to challenge ourselves on what alienation might be doing to them; when they donāt care about the system, they donāt threaten our perspective on how itās organized. Bloodraven, though, is always playing toward some long game or another, and he always uses the most powerful tools he can get his hands on to do it. He is not a devotee of chaos. He is about order, bare and unflinching -and he stands in starkly visible contrast to what most people assume their social order to be.
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