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Charlie Vickers on S2 Ending, and Gal vs Sauron in General
Via Den of Geek.
SAURON CAN'T BE WITHOUT GALADRIELđđ„ł
#The Dark cannot be without HIS LIGHT
#THE SERVANTS OF GODS NEEDS HIS PERSONAL QUEEN/GODDESS TO BEđ„č
#otherwise he has no reason to existđ„č
#She is Light/He is Darkness
#Together they are BALANCE OF THE FORCE and i freaking LUV IT!đ€đ€đ€
#Funny thing is Sauron with Galadriel can be repentant/his own Light!side = Halbrandđđ©”
#PS. Friendly reminder: But please; don't try it at home irl!
Elven!tales are elven!Tales. Fictional character /godly beings are fictional character/ godly beings. Or Amazon!show is Amazon!show. Fiction is fiction. The shows/movies are fake. Sauron can be good on his personal Queen Galadriel's leash if show!writer or fanfic!writer wants to. đ
#Real life is real life. We are just humans with little time on earth and we had no time to try and "change some guy". [Especially those with god!complexđ]
#PPS. Very sorry for being Captain Obvious todayđ I felt silly writing this, lol.
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1x02
The storm is approaching from Galadriel's left. Halbrand/Sauron is standing in the Light. He is in a period of repentance. Galadriel is shrouded in darkness. Since she was a participant in the rebellion, it can be assumed that Morgoth planted the seeds of darkness in her back in those distant times.
The shadow of the past hangs over Galadriel and drives her forward. After the fall of Morgoth, Sauron was lost. Tolkien tells us that Sauron repented at that time.
Perhaps the show is showing us that the seed of evil sown by Morgoth has taken root in Galadriel. And her obsession with finding Sauron has tied her closely to Morgoth.
I know that some people in the fandom have suggested that Galadriel became the embodiment of Morgoth for Sauron. I'm increasingly agreeing with this. But what did she become for Mairon, who we saw at the beginning of the first season?
Metaphorically, the left side is associated with the past, and the right side is associated with the future.
We are shown a diametrically opposite exposure. The darkness moves from right to left. The future is destructive, and it is coming because:
Sauron lives because of you
I like that, well pointed out that the storm is moving from the opposite direction in reality and in Galadrielâs vision. Iâve also been questioning why Galadriel was so obsessed with finding Sauron that she was willing to sacrifice even the chance to reunite with her beloved brother and husband.
Adar tells her something like "during our last meeting, you were already obsessed with finding Sauron, thatâs what happens when heâs begun to slither into oneâs mind." But when could that have happened, if they never actually met, and it was shown (or confirmed) that Sauron never planned their encounter? Thatâs why the idea of Morgoth planting the seeds of obsession in her mind seems valid
Itâs been discussed that it was Eru who deemed it fitting for Sauron and Galadriel to meet. However, Galadriel led Sauron to the Southlands, fulfilling Morgoth's binding of creating Mordor. Moreover, sheâs so proud that she would never truly accept a repentant Mairon, no matter what feelings she might harbor. Furthermore, Adarâs remark, calling her a "shadow of Morgoth". So, Eru's plan doesn't make sense to me.
What if Eru was guiding Sauron, while Morgoth was subtly guiding Galadriel, each unknowingly being steered by opposing forces? Then, as their roles and influences shifted, their positions swapped. That would also explain the imagery of the storm approaching from the opposite direction, a reflection of that inversion between light and shadow, divine and fallen.
Sketchbook WIP of Sauron and Galadriel. I used a reflective gold and silver paint for her hair and chest plate so it stands out when the light hits it. Still need to add the background. I'm imagining the raft scene from TROP but with him in the full Sauron armor and her in her Dark Queen outfit.
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RIP Halbrand, we hardly knew you.
Inspired by that one tweet that said Galadriel had to excuse herself for a smoke when Arwen brought her man to meet Grandma for the first time.

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I love reading Bearâs music analyses of the episodes, as they not only offer insight into the scenes but also provide translations of the Quenya passages. Rather than discussing the entire article which is available here, Iâll focus solely on two quotes that are particularly interesting in terms of the Galadriel x Sauron dynamic and somehow proves theories and speculation about the pair's future and relationship.
Inevitable Corruption
Meanwhile, atop the cliffs above the city, Galadriel and Sauron continue to exchange blows. Twin female choirs urge Galadriel onward with a heroic text, as the propulsive âLast Temptationâ ostinato bursts into the soundtrack once again.
Quenya: Maranweo mahtie, kendele mitya morilyanna. Fai hirie kala mo mauye tenya mornie. Sinwa söa, i mitya more.
English: Fight of destiny, facing your inner darkness. Before finding light one must touch the darkness. Inevitable corruption, the darkness within.
The theme of "touching the darkness" has been dangled in front of us several times in relation to Galadriel. Not only does Sauron repeat this phrase to remind her that one must first touch the darkness before finding the light, but the chorus in the musical theme also echoes this idea, underscoring that corruption is inevitable for her, as the darkness already dwells within.
I have a feeling that the next season will explore how corruption begins to affect Galadriel. Like Sauron, she will "touch the darkness," as the show has repeatedly emphasized how alike they are. However, unlike him, she wonât sink into the abyss. Instead, she will rise from it and become the Lady of Light. This strength, her ability to resist the pull of darkness specifically, might be one of the reasons Sauron comes to see her as his chief adversary and even fears her.
I don't think it is coincidence that the chorus was echoing "touching the darkness within" at the closure accompanied by Galadriel's theme. Can't wait to see an interesting and complex development of Galadriel's character next season.
Fight of destiny, light against the Darkness. Darkness within the Blades of fate. Before finding the light, One must touch the darkness, the Darkness within. When darkness falls, light shines.
Forces Beyond Evil
Sauron backs her against stone, and tries to weave his way into her mind once more with his words. His melody is whispered here by child soprano Juno Goode, with the Quenya text âNĂri lĂĄ naxa,â meaning âForces beyond evil.âÂ
When Sauron backs Galadriel against the stone, he tells her that not all of it was a lie, a deception or an illusion of his making. Their meeting, their feelings were genuine, the work of something greater. This echoes a phrase used earlier in The Lord of the Rings universe, specifically when Gandalf tells Frodo:
There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you were also meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought.
Gandalf is referring to fate, something Eru is guiding behind the scenes. Just as Frodo was destined to bear the Ring and Gollum to play a key role in its destruction, Galadriel was also meant to have a part in its creation.
But why does the 'force beyond evil' theme emerge in the 'Not All of It' scene which feels so intimate and personal especially with Sauron turning into Halbrand in the very next moment?
Perhaps it's to suggest that Galadriel's feelings for Halbrand were not part of his manipulation, but something deeper, beyond his design.
The Tides of Fate Are Flowing.
Fight until your last breath for those you have buried, While sailing with the tides of fate. All things must end, darkness swims to the light. Time gallops ever forward, and the Sun yet shines. Fate has been revealed where the shadows lie!
Galadriel, driven by vengeance for her brotherâs death, was led by fate to an fateful meeting with her sworn enemy â Sauron who was drawn to her light and seeking redemption. For a fleeting moment, their paths aligned, bound by shared wounds and the illusion of healing. Yet, as swiftly as it began, fate cast him back into shadow, where darkness claimed him once more.
And still, there is hope because the sun continues to shine.
"And it seemed to men that Sauron was great, though they feared the light of his eyes."Â
Complementary color study with this dreadful amazing model. Mood: Fallen angel going for a walk in NĂșmenor.
Shapeshifter
Seine Angst ist meine Angst Seine Wut ist meine Wut Seine Liebe ist meine Liebe Sein Blut ist mein Blut If you'd like to step further into Sauronâs private art gallery, the full series is collected here: Portrait | Paintings | Sculpture
"So you wanna play with magic? Boy, you should know what you falling for. Baby, do you dare to do this? 'Cause I'm coming at you like a dark horse"
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Empowering the Dark Lord
âGaladriel is obviously an elf, but even if she was a human in this world, she hasn't been brought up with [the idea] to shrink or to be pleasing [to others]. As women, we're given shame quite early on, and she doesn't have that. That has been liberating for me.â (Morfydd Clark, about Season 1 Galadriel)
âSauron is a cause of real shame for Galadriel. This is someone who is so certain all the time that what she's doing is right, and she unwittingly empowered the Dark Lord in her activities in season 1.â (J.D. Payne about Season 2 Galadriel)
âNo, you've done far more than that for me. I'd all but given up. But you, you believed in me. You saw strength in me. You pushed me to heights that no one else could have. I will never forget that. And I'll see to it that no one else does either.â (1x08)
So, Galadriel did learn âshameâ between Season 1 and Season 2. And this is probably how the show is dealing with Tolkien calling her a âpenitentâ in Letter 320? Sheâs the one who âempoweredâ Sauron (like J.D. Payne puts it)? But how did she "empowered" him?
âI think there has to be a reckoning. Even knowing that Sauron was partially involved in the science behind the making of the rings, we see her give the go-ahead to make the rings anyway. She [Galadriel] also has to bear some responsibility; âI empowered the Dark Lord. I saved his life on a raft. I was party to him coming from obscurity to head an army.â Thatâs a lot she has to wrestle with and be accountable for.â (J.D. Payne for âEsquireâ, after Season 1)
In the same interview, Patrick McKay adds: âSeason One has been a real journey for Galadriel emotionally. She was so sure that she was right, that this was her destiny, that this is the fight she had to have. When she's watching the ash cloud come toward her in Episode Seven, she really feels what a terrible mistake her pride has led her to make and pull so many people into. I love watching her and Theo in that episode. I really feel her reflecting on her own mistakes and counseling Theo not to make the same mistakes that she has made. But then in the eighth episode, we end with Elrond finding evidence that she lied to him. Her facing the consequences of that has not ended yet.â
This is what we saw in Season 2 with Elrond and Gil-galad.
This seems kind of extreme, because, while, yes, she did empower him as in worked to place a crown on his head (King of the Southlands), she didnât know Halbrand was Sauron. Unless this is about her allowing the Three rings of power to be forged? Despite knowing, for a fact, Halbrand was Sauron, and decided to keep that a secret from both Elrond and Celebrimbor?
Before Season 2 aired, Morfydd Clark teased Galadriel was on a âredemption missionâ throughout the season: âShe really messed up so badly. There's a desperation to redeem herself, and through redeeming herself protect Middle-earth, which is in more danger than it ever has been. Now she's seen the whites of the eyes of the person who's bringing it all down [Sauron], she's all revved up.â
And her desire to redeem herself is connected to her wanting to slay Sauron, all the same:
After Season 2 finale, Morfydd Clark said Season 2 prologue âredeemedâ Galadriel at the eyes of the audience: âI think it redeemed Galadriel a bit to see that heâd [Sauron] chosen [this]. She didn't open up all his darkness, but she doesnât know that, unfortunately.â In the same interview, Morfydd says Galadriel redeemed herself in Season 2 finale because she refused Sauron, once again. I wonder why the Valar will take thousands of years to forgive her, then.
Morfydd is talking about Sauron choosing the King of the Southlands pouch instead of saving Diarmid. But, as she very well points out, Galadriel doesnât know this, but she also believes Sauron deceived her all along, all the same. But if this "redemption" is about the Three Elven rings of power, she also wears Nenya proudly, and vouches for the rings to be free of Sauron's influence, all the same. So something doesnât quite add up here.
And, I have to ask, how can Galadriel take full responsibility for âempoweringâ the Dark Lord when she thinks she was deceived?
From his part, Sauron told Galadriel, in 1x08, he had given up until she came along and saw strength in him, and push him to âheights that no one else could haveâ. He also promised he would never forget that, and would make sure âthat no one else does eitherâ. What does this mean, exactly?
Charlie Vickers had said several times Sauron sees Galadriel as a âuseful toolâ in his plan, and she would end up being his assistant or secretary or whatever, but whatâs with this fascination Sauron has for Galadriel, in particular? Pretty sure he would find a more receptive âassistantâ in MĂrdania (she already took that role in Season 2), if thatâs what heâs looking for.
Right, Galadriel and Sauron share a ânon-romantic cosmic connectionâ and he sees her as his equal. I could buy this if the show had given me book Galadriel (I usually avoid criticizing the show because thereâs so much unnecessary hatred already, but this is one of my personal grievances). But, from her part, Galadriel doesnât even believe this âcosmic connectionâ exists anymore, in Season 2. She tells the audience this, herself, in 2x08. She believes Sauron deceived her, all along.
According to diretor Charlotte BrĂ€ndström (now one of the executive producers of the show): âGaladriel obviously was in love with Halbrand. She was very attracted to him. So when Sauron changes shape⊠Sauron knows this because he gets into her head, so he knows what sheâs thinking, what sheâs feeling. So when he immediately takes Halbrandâs shape, he completely destabilizes her because that was her weakness. She had very strong feelings for the King, for Halbrand, obviously in the first season.â
This is an idea, the director mentions in another interview, when explaining Sauron taking Halbrand form: âIt was really important that we felt the tension, the provocations, and how destabilized she felt because she was very much in love with Halbrand,â BrĂ€ndström says. âI mean, there was almost like a love story. He really seduced her.â
âI see you. I know your mind.â
Nothing romantic to see here, folks. Move along.
About Galadriel grieving Halbrand, Morfydd Clark said: âHer time with Halbrand was a time where she was very much herself in some ways because she was an Elf alone. She wasn't following the rules of her people at that point. So, he knows a part of her that other people, other beings, don't, and there's a tragedy to losing that, and through losing him, she's also lost that part of herself.â
I donât know what ârulesâ Galadriel wasnât following with Sauronbrad in Season 1, but this separation from the Elves is something Bear McCreary talked about concerning his idea with âGaladrielâs Themeâ: âGaladrielâs Theme starts out sounding Elven, but is soon overtaken by a rippling string pattern that represents her ever-present desire to hunt for Sauron â she does not belong with her people.â
The missing piece here is Sauronâs repentance era. Which, as Season 2 made the point of show, Galadriel doesnât know about, nor does she believes it. She thinks Sauron orchestrated everything just to get to Eregion and Celebrimbor and make this âpower over fleshâ plan he has been seeking for thousands of years a reality. Season 2 prologue confirmed Sauron didnât plan to meet Galadriel in the Sundering Seas, and their meeting was entirely by chance.
Only we know, and both showrunners confirmed, thereâs no âchance meetingsâ in Tolkien legendarium, and their coming together was part of Eru IlĂșvatarâs plan, as Patrick McKay elaborated after Season 1 finale: âchance meetings are preordained in Middle-earth and that idea of like, 'My God, what if Sauron is in a place where he's sort of repentant and lost and Galadriel is in a place where she's desperate and obsessed with a meeting? What might happen?â
But, again, Galadriel doesnât know any of this. And what âfeelingâ does Sauron wants to hold on to? What did he feel fighting at her side? Was it only âlightâ? Because the Dork Lord over here is moving away from that, as his good intentions of healing Middle-earth are being left behind, and his pride and lust for dominion will start to eat him up in Season 3.
âAll shall love me and despairâ
Sauron greatest crime in Tolkien legendarium has nothing to do with the rings of power (a means to an end) nor destroying cities to the ground, or getting the Valar to sink NĂșmenor. âIn The Lord of the Rings the conflict is not basically about 'freedom', though that is naturally involved. It is about God, and His sole right to divine honour. The Eldar and the NĂșmenĂłreans believed in The One, the true God, and held worship of any other person an abomination. Sauron desired to be a God-King, and was held to be this by his servants; if he had been victorious he would have demanded divine honour from all rational creatures and absolute temporal power over the whole world.â (Tolkien Letter 183)
Everyone knows Gollumâs iconic line: âIt came to me, my own, my love, my precious.â
âNo longer will we be hunted as the demons who broke Middle-earth, but rather worshipped as the saviors who finally healed it.â
Underrated Sauron moment: âMy people have no king?â Ok, Satanic baby. His people are the Ainur, heâs one of the Maiar, and their King is ManwĂ« (the King of the Valar). And he says this very bitterly.
Galadriel was unfortunate to fell in love with Halbrand back in Season 1, but, it seems to me, this was also one of the ways she ended up âempoweringâ the Dark Lord. And that's why Sauron brings it up in 2x08, alonsgide with âthey could not longer distinguish me from the evil I was fightingâ (they are alike) and her allowing the Three Elven rings of power to be made, like he asked her to in 1x08 (âAre they not the seeds you planted?â).
But why would Sauron take this so personally, and spent thousands of years âgroupingâ Galadrielâs mind in particular?
He will get a bunch of devoted servants of his own and the show introduced the Sauron cultists in RhĂ»n (a plot which will probably get resolved next season, since the Easterlings are one of Sauronâs greatest allies and one of the Nine is from there). Sauron will get some of that worship he so desires, and MĂrdania seemed very receptive in giving him some love, too. But... she was not Galadriel?
And, again, if Sauron is one-dimentional evil who can't love anything other than himself, why would he care if Galadriel fell in love with him, or not? Why does he gets so triggered when she denies him, yet again? If she would be his assistant, why even bother?
Questions, questions, and unresolved/open plots.
Based on their dialogue in the woods, it seems like they are talking about the same feeling because Galadriel understands from half words what Halbrand is trying to say: if I can hold on that feeling; I felt it too. So, if Galadriel loves Halbrand (which seems to be already confirmed), then Sauron loves her as well. This feelingâlove for Galadrielâmotivated Halbrand to be better, try to earn forgiveness.
But why is he grouping her mind? Someone recently pointed out that Sauron has been lonely for eons, rarely feeling any real connection. Galadriel is the one person he truly connected with. Perhaps thatâs why he wants her by his side, to experience that bond again.
And when they say this is more than just romance, I agree. Romance is often just attraction, but love is deeper because it involves longing, affection.
I agree, but the popular view is that Sauron is incapable of love.
Although, Tolkien made it perfectly clear he doesnât deal with absolute evil in his legendarium, and in âMorgothâs Ringâ we are told Sauron is motivated by his love for order and co-ordination, and he believes everything he does is for the greater good. After Season 1, Charlie also talked about W.H. Auden 1956 review of âReturn of the Kingâ to say âevil loves only itselfâ, (a view Tolkien utterly rejected), but quite recently he talked about Sauron being a complex character, and everything is rooted in what Tolkien wrote, including in his letters (not surprising, thatâs where Tolkien explains Sauronâs character arc).
Itâs also interesting how the show had Galadriel stuck in Orc camp for half a season, witnessed Adar love for his children, and how the Orcs care for each other. Those unfamiliar with the legendarium might think this is all very odd or somehow âredeemsâ the Orcs, or the Orcs are somehow âgoodâ because they love each other. But this is due to a misunderstanding of Tolkien ideas of âgoodâ and âevilâ. Itâs all about intention. The Orcs love each other, but they still enslave the Southlanders for his own ends. They are still evil. I love how RoP is dealing with these complexities.
As you mentioned, Tolkien didnât support the idea of absolute evil being incapable of love. It doesnât make sense to suggest that he cannot feel love based on what was shown on screen. If he is capable of remorse, then logically, he should also be capable of other emotions, including love.
They also pointed out that Sauron was different from Morgoth: he could see beauty, appreciate it, and genuinely sought peace, though he chose terrible means to achieve it. So it makes him even more complex.
He might be delusional, but that doesnât mean heâs incapable of feeling affection or a kind of attachment. Iâm pretty sure heâs never experienced it before, thatâs why he even refers to it as âthat feeling.â He doesnât know how to name it or what it truly is. But Galadriel does, she recognizes. She knows exactly what that feeling is.
And in the end, love is different. Love is shaped by race (Maia vs Elf), personality and past experiences (he has been living in darkness for eons).
One can love like this.
Or like this.
Is it healthy? No. But what can we expect from an ancient being who knew only pain and cruelty in his long years?
The ballad of Mairon and his many faces â€ïžâđ„