The spiritual concept of Kin along with its original meaning has effectively been pushed out of its own space by Tumblr users and hobbyists. This mirrors what’s now happening with Miscefolk, which is being reinterpreted and reshaped into “Misceverse” by a similar demographic. In both cases, the terms are drifting away from their original intent and audience, displacing the people they were created to represent. We’ve already seen this happen with Kin or Spiritual Kin, which is now often referenced in a derogatory or trivializing way. It’s disheartening to watch the same pattern repeat with Miscefolk versus Misceverse terminology.

I am not afraid to say I think many people have either misunderstood or deliberately misinterpreted the original coiner of #Miscefolk ‘s post, reducing it to scare monger claims that “they just hate alterhumans, therians, kinnies, or systems.” From personal experience interacting with them on more than one occasion I know this is completely misplaced slander.

The term Miscefolk (along with related terms like miscecanis and misceanimalis) was coined to describe people who still identify as human but experience strong, involuntary Non Human Earth-animal instincts that mirror the Omegaverse.

The use of “-verse,” shorthand for “universe” or “AU” (alternate universe), comes from fictional writing and roleplay spaces. Applying that language to Misce makes it sound like a fictional genre, or something tied to constructed narratives, faux memories of alters/parts of DIDOSDD systems, or past lives of Kin individuals. While there’s nothing inherently wrong with those frameworks using them in misapplication can overshadow and confuse the experiences of Misce+ individuals who are describing this present universe and lived realities of people who do not choose these behaviors or identities as a hobby.

If you’re looking for a broader term to describe Misce alignments and species considered fictional or originating from mythology or folklore you may find this post helpful, I’d encourage others exploring those.

Thank you so much for being understanding over my stance on the whole terminology aspect of things.

I still hold the belief that there's nothing wrong with the other experiences people were/are having, but I just never thought they fit my term the way it was intended to be used. And at the end of the day, that was all it was about.

I get a lot of people don't understand my point of view, or even want to have a dialogue about it. Maybe because they disagree with me (which is their right to do so) or because they just don't like me altogether (I can come across pretty harsh and rude sometimes, so again, completely their right to not like me lol). Regardless of their reasoning, I agree with you that there was no reason to take that beyond what it actually was.

But this being tumblr, what could we expect really? Hahhahaha and you're right. If you take the time to talk to me, and not just talk, but also listen, I am not half as bad as I come across hahhahaha

It always kind of came as a surprise, and odd to me, the things people accused me of. Like "being anti-system", I don't have to justify myself or even show any receipts, but most people that know me semi-personally know that this is very very far from the truth.

And it always seemed a bit weird that these were the things people would level against me? The ones that made no sense hahhahaha like, I have a laundry list of things that you can 100% pin against me as flaws of character or shortcomings, but majority of the ones they choose have little to no basis 😅

Anyways. Your posts were very kind and lovely and you're a very reasonable and fair. The way you defended me was very touching and I'm very grateful for the kindness you extended to me, even when you had no obligation to do so.

Honestly I’ve used misceverse and miscefolk interchangeably ? Like I feel like miscefolk specifically refers to people in the community whereas misceverse moreso refers to the community/practice/identity as a whole ? And that “verse” was just in place of whatever you want to put there, ie canis, felis, avian, draconic, etc

I personally don’t identify fully as human and still use the misce terms, from everything I found I never got the sense it was particularly for people who do or don’t?

we are real people with real biology, behavior and instincts. we just align with what your world views as "not a real species" or "came from fiction"

but that doesn't stop me from... being a real person with a real species?

This aside It is not unreasonable to feel this way. I take the “fictional” label on the beak to refer to what other people do not believe to exist in this current universe as a species as their own personal understanding of the world they currently live in.

I do understand how that feels very othering to other people. I personally chalk it up to the way some people believe some deities exist while not believing in others, or how atheists believe there is no afterlife compared to other people who may believe in an afterlife but no particular or definitive deity.

Of course this doesn’t exactly help the sensation or worry others view your species or existence as “fake” or “fantasy”. Generally speaking though these people are usually incredibly ignorant or harmlessly uninformed or misinformed. I see the inclusion of Essenti and Mystiori a branch the way Otherkin, Fictionkin and Therian are all different experiences for different groups with strong overlap under the Alterhuman umbrella.

There was a reason for people who have past life experiences or relations as earth animals to differentiate themselves among people who recall past life experiences or relate to/as a person or species in a universe unlike our own that many in our current one would dub fictional.

Again you can do whatever you want. I'm not the Misce police. But the uncertainty at times is disconcerting.

If they're using it for real people, then that's that. But if they're using to refer to fictional people and things part of me wonders if they know about real misce people, and if they do, why would you use it for fictional things?

This isn't a bashing post of "how dare you!" or "we own the right to everything related to it, you can't have it!". It is a genuine inquiry.

Is there a reason? Is this just a mix up or misunderstanding? Am I unaware of something I should be aware of?

Like I could, 100% be missing the plot and there's an obvious reason for it all.

And yeah, I created the label in order to distinguish this aspect of us (misces) from the rest of the Omegaverse fans and creators. Obviously at the time when I created the term I was only thinking of canine-like and more traditionally presenting misce people, aka people that identified with the more traditional and classic interpretations of Omegaverse. Which, admittedly, was an oversight on my part. But it was a self-leveling issue, given others expanded on it in order to include different presentations. Such as:

- Miscefelis

- Miscelupus (technically this one I suggested also at the time of the coigning of the term),

- Misceanimalis

- Miscelapin (I don't know if I can call this one also deriving from my own suggestion in this post. Because it might have been in use before by other people).

And so on and so forth. And to be very clear, I have no issue with these expansions, at all.

But the influx of new labels and scents makes me confused, and I think the crux of this confusion is the term I keep seeing over and over again: Misceverse.

I've seen the suffix "verse" refer to things in the real world before such as "twitterverse". But even then, the connotation behind the usage was often one of sarcasm and mockery, exactly because the suffix made it sound like something less than real, something apart from reality. And this is its most common usage.

People use the suffix verse to refer to a universe (hence the name) that is different from this one. Its focus is other, and its inhabitants are also other. I can give a practical example:

The Veraverse fanfics, by infamous author George DeValier. It was called that because the fanfics were written around the framework of Vera Lynn's war songs.

I guess the exception to this would be when regarding cosmological terms such as "omniverse" or "multiverse", or even more recent virtual or augmented reality spaces, such as the "metaverse".

But even then, the connotation is still one of separation, one of otherness and departure from our current reality.

And within omegaverse itself there's the issue that we all call our made up worlds and collection of headcanons "our verse/my verse". Which I understand can be used to refer to one's interpretation of something, but it also refers to fictional ideas and concepts, yet again making it difficult to set apart which is which. It just adds to the confusion.

It makes me uncertain when I see that word. Because we aren't apart from reality, we still live in the same world we always lived in, only now as misce-aligned individuals. A main reason for the choice of this blog's name btw.

It makes me wonder if they're referring to a fictional construction. A world other than this one, where there are characters or people with these scents and identities, or if they're referring to the community.

If it's the former then I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding on their part on what Misce is and its intended usage (which, again, still bears no form of authority because I remain not being the Misce police) and I think a word other than "misce" would be more appropriate in order to avoid all this identification problem. If it's the later, then I still think the term is ill fitting, for the reasons I expressed previously.

And what worries me about it, is the potential confusion it might cause for those outside of the community or Omegaverse to begin with. If you're an outsider looking in, and saw the term "misceverse", wouldn't you assume it's a variant or even interchangeable term with Omegaverse itself, and thus, a fictional trope? I know I would. It's not unlikely at all, this whole confusion stems from this very connection. And if you are someone who thinks misce is applicable to only fictional things, then why wouldn't you tag the whole post or work with misce tags? They aren't at fault for doing so. Because the term (misceverse) is muddy and frankly misleading.

I think it should be altered or dropped in order to prevent the mix up and prevent potential misunderstanding. Because it could cause the term (misce and its variants) to become essentially useless.

I'll try to give some suggestions, granted y'all don't have to take any of the ones I suggest. Come up with something more to y'all's liking if you wish, but I do strongly advise to ultimarely drop misceverse.

Suggestions:

✦ [Referring to data or information on any misce-aligned identity]

- Miscelloge (misce + sylloge).

- Miscelectum/miscelegis/Miscelegere or whatever the correct form is (Misce + many forms of the word "lego").

- Misceinfo.

- Miscentitatis (Misce + Identitatis).

- Miscendicina (Misce + Indicina).

- Miscertyria (Misce + Martyria).

- Miscehood.

- Miscelegium (Not to be confused with legumes, but derived from the word florilegium, this one is my personal favourite due to this connection).

✦ [Referring to the community or collective of Misce-aligned identities]

- Miscemia (a little medical sounding, but it could work).

- Miscemedley.

- Miscemunity. (Misce + Community - I particularly like this one, I think it's cute)

- Misceglomerate.

- Miscekith (I made sure to not make this one "miscekin" as not to further confuse people, given the whole otherkin community).

- Misceciety (Misce + Society).

To finish it off, I'm not saying all of this in order to be mean, or to "gatekeep" or to bash or diminish or "call out" people for doing these things. I don't think they did anything wrong or with ill intent. But ultimately my concern is that we Misce people may lose our space here and other places, which mind you is already rather small and niche, due to potential confusion. Confusion that can be avoided and corrected by simply changing the word we use to refer to it. So no, I don't think it's just a matter of semantics. I think it's a matter of self-preservation.

Alas this is all my own opinion. I don't know if other Misce people would agree with me or not. And honestly this is an individual decision, and no one, including I, can tell you what you should or should not do.

Spiritual Kin and the origins of the term have been pushed out of their own community by tumblr kids and hobbyists the very same way Miscefolk has been taken over and redefined into Misceverse by children and some adults. This is successfully pushing out the demographic the term was originally made for — shockingly similarly to what happened to spiritual kin who are now referred to in large by the tumblr in derogatory contexts or quotations.

It’s sad witnessing these same things echoed over Misceverse vs Miscefolk terminology.

I think many people have misread or intentionally misinterpreted the original coiners post to break it down into “they just hate or think alterhumans, therians, otherkin, fictionkin or DIDOSDD systwns are cringe or weird”. Knowing Null personally this just isn’t true at all. When Null the coiner of Miscefolk/Miscecanis/Misceanimalis made the term it was to reflect people who still identify as HUMAN with EARTH ANIMAL INSTINCTS.

“Verse” is short for universe which is another name or tag for AU meaning alternate universe. Such terms are used by roleplayers and fictional writers. So this is why we say use of “Verse” waters down the original origins and intentions to be mistaken for a fictional genre, a separate universe, faux memories from alters/parts in DIDOSDD systems or even past life memories by certain religious or spiritual groups.

So I talked at lenght about my thoughts on the term "misceverse" in this post right here and then reenphasized it all in this one. So I won't extend myself on that again. But I would like to bring yet another thing on that regard to the community at large, something I spoke about with others in my own server and I have the vague memory of speaking about it here on tumblr too, but couldn't find any old post or reblog on it. And it is somehitng that a pack member of mine even came up with new terminology and a flag for. Which is: I do not think Miscecanis or even the suffix "misce" fit with mythological and fictional creatures and the people who identify with such beings. Now, things I need to preface before continuing. This is not a hate post, this is not necessarily to "gatekeep" and I'm not really calling out anyone here. It is merely something I think makes sense and could serve the misce community and this new community a lot better than just having misce alone as an umbrella term. My pack-mate and friend @maliciousarmor came up with a new terminology for people who identify with fictional or mythical creatures in a manner similar to how misce poeple identify with real earthen animals, they called it:

"Essenti/Essentitas" - For non-human but still humanoid identities (vampires, sirens, demons, etc.)

and

"Mystiori/Mystirigo" - For mythical and non-human animal identities (dragons, cryptids, phoenix, etc.)

Personally I find these absolutely lovely and magical. I think it makes for a great new space for those which aren't the classical interpretation of "misce" and its intended original usage. To me "Essenti" and "Mystiori" sound so nice and I love the meaning behind it, You can find their whole explanation and original post right here! In summary, I still stand in my belief that fictional (or mythical) things regarding omegaverse and its tangential spheres aren't really the most fitting things to exist in the misce umbrella. And honestly after talking to maliciousarmor about it, I think it is wonderful that they came up with these new terms and the flag (which I'll show below, because it's honestly gorgeous too). We are still similar, but we aren't the same, basically it's what I'm saying. This way we're still connected, but have more clear definitions for everyone. Like sister or cousin communities. Together but apart. Anyways, I'll reiterate that this is not a hate post or even a way of "kicking" anyone out. As I said before I am not the misce police. But I do think my friend's passion and effort should be regognized and if you feel in your heart that this is the community for you, please support them by adopting their terminology and helping to spread it to more of your friends and loved one who can also use a loving space and community such as this.

Long life and prosperity to the Senti and Mysti community!