Iām already noticing that this community is becoming increasingly saturated with both children and adults who put āspiritual kinā in quotation marks, as if Otherkin/Kinning didnāt originate as a Neo-pagan belief. Over time, that origin has been diluted and reframed into a hobby or simply having a strong relationship to a character, animal, or concept, something that in most other contexts would be received as immensely disrespectful or dismissive of a religious or spiritual practice.
The spiritual concept of Kin along with its original meaning has effectively been pushed out of its own space by Tumblr users and hobbyists. This mirrors whatās now happening with Miscefolk, which is being reinterpreted and reshaped into āMisceverseā by a similar demographic. In both cases, the terms are drifting away from their original intent and audience, displacing the people they were created to represent. Weāve already seen this happen with Kin or Spiritual Kin, which is now often referenced in a derogatory or trivializing way. Itās disheartening to watch the same pattern repeat with Miscefolk versus Misceverse terminology.
I am not afraid to say I think many people have either misunderstood or deliberately misinterpreted the original coiner of #Miscefolk ās post, reducing it to scare monger claims that āthey just hate alterhumans, therians, kinnies, or systems.ā From personal experience interacting with them on more than one occasion I know this is completely misplaced slander.
The term Miscefolk (along with related terms like miscecanis and misceanimalis) was coined to describe people who still identify as human but experience strong, involuntary Non Human Earth-animal instincts that mirror the Omegaverse.
The use of ā-verse,ā shorthand for āuniverseā or āAUā (alternate universe), comes from fictional writing and roleplay spaces. Applying that language to Misce makes it sound like a fictional genre, or something tied to constructed narratives, faux memories of alters/parts of DIDOSDD systems, or past lives of Kin individuals. While thereās nothing inherently wrong with those frameworks using them in misapplication can overshadow and confuse the experiences of Misce+ individuals who are describing this present universe and lived realities of people who do not choose these behaviors or identities as a hobby.
If youāre looking for a broader term to describe Misce alignments and species considered fictional or originating from mythology or folklore you may find this post helpful, Iād encourage others exploring those.
My intention here isnāt to start conflict just to share an observation. As an adult, Iām not interested in engaging in drama or arguing with minors. This isnāt meant in bad faith; itās simply a perspective based on what Iāve been seeing.
Huh, it's been a while since I've been here on this site. But what a pleasant surprise awaited me!
Thank you so much for being understanding over my stance on the whole terminology aspect of things.
I still hold the belief that there's nothing wrong with the other experiences people were/are having, but I just never thought they fit my term the way it was intended to be used. And at the end of the day, that was all it was about.
I get a lot of people don't understand my point of view, or even want to have a dialogue about it. Maybe because they disagree with me (which is their right to do so) or because they just don't like me altogether (I can come across pretty harsh and rude sometimes, so again, completely their right to not like me lol). Regardless of their reasoning, I agree with you that there was no reason to take that beyond what it actually was.
But this being tumblr, what could we expect really? Hahhahaha and you're right. If you take the time to talk to me, and not just talk, but also listen, I am not half as bad as I come across hahhahaha
It always kind of came as a surprise, and odd to me, the things people accused me of. Like "being anti-system", I don't have to justify myself or even show any receipts, but most people that know me semi-personally know that this is very very far from the truth.
And it always seemed a bit weird that these were the things people would level against me? The ones that made no sense hahhahaha like, I have a laundry list of things that you can 100% pin against me as flaws of character or shortcomings, but majority of the ones they choose have little to no basis š
Anyways. Your posts were very kind and lovely and you're a very reasonable and fair. The way you defended me was very touching and I'm very grateful for the kindness you extended to me, even when you had no obligation to do so.
If you need anything, let me know. Count me as a friend āŗļø
Honestly Iāve used misceverse and miscefolk interchangeably ? Like I feel like miscefolk specifically refers to people in the community whereas misceverse moreso refers to the community/practice/identity as a whole ? And that āverseā was just in place of whatever you want to put there, ie canis, felis, avian, draconic, etc
I personally donāt identify fully as human and still use the misce terms, from everything I found I never got the sense it was particularly for people who do or donāt?
On the kin thing I donāt really like the idea that spiritualism is the āoriginalā because that implies psychological or unlabeled is less valid, from everything Iāve read I think itās always been a mix. I certainly donāt think people should invalidate spiritual otherkins i just donāt think the assumption should be one way or the other. Itās up to the individual and I think itās always been that way, people joined together out of shared experiences of feeling nonhuman, it doesnāt have to be more complicated or restricted then that
I find I notice a weird disregard for eachother between therians and otherkins, like the communities seem to ignore eachother
I think itās because they formed separate from eachother, convergent evolution, convergent formation of community
And thatās not even touching on the werefolk community and draconic community, I think itās really sad as someone who branches across all these labels, the amount of hate and negativity and discrediting
When we all face the same issues, weāre all denied a form that feels comfortable weāre all insulted, harassed, people mix us up with furries (which no offense bc I am also a furry but itās completely different) and we face the same allegations of being mentally unwell (and even if we are, we shouldnāt have to face discrimination and discrediting for it) or having harmful paraphilias we all get that
And we also all face the struggle of people taking our labels and misusing them, watering them down, and then refusing to learn.
Sorry I know this second part isnāt really the main point but i just wanted to share my take, spiritual kins were definitely always there and helped form the community but i also think psychological kins have been there the whole time too and either side invalidating the other is useless and just causes harm.
When discussing Kin, I want to clarify I never intended to separate psychological kin from the community. That's not what I believe at all. I was only attempting to speak from my own spiritual kin experience because that's what I know. If my post came across as suggesting spiritual kin tracing back to elven reincarnation ancestry in its origin or āoriginal communityā āis somehow "better" or more legitimate than psychological kin I apologize for causing that misconception, that wasn't my intention. I was simply trying to speak only on experiences I feel qualified to discuss, not create some hierarchy of kin identities.
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Iām already noticing that this community is becoming increasingly saturated with both children and adults who put āspiritual kinā in quotation marks, as if Otherkin/Kinning didnāt originate as a Neo-pagan belief. Over time, that origin has been diluted and reframed into a hobby or simply having a strong relationship to a character, animal, or concept, something that in most other contexts would be received as immensely disrespectful or dismissive of a religious or spiritual practice.
The spiritual concept of Kin along with its original meaning has effectively been pushed out of its own space by Tumblr users and hobbyists. This mirrors whatās now happening with Miscefolk, which is being reinterpreted and reshaped into āMisceverseā by a similar demographic. In both cases, the terms are drifting away from their original intent and audience, displacing the people they were created to represent. Weāve already seen this happen with Kin or Spiritual Kin, which is now often referenced in a derogatory or trivializing way. Itās disheartening to watch the same pattern repeat with Miscefolk versus Misceverse terminology.
I am not afraid to say I think many people have either misunderstood or deliberately misinterpreted the original coiner of #Miscefolk ās post, reducing it to scare monger claims that āthey just hate alterhumans, therians, kinnies, or systems.ā From personal experience interacting with them on more than one occasion I know this is completely misplaced slander.
The term Miscefolk (along with related terms like miscecanis and misceanimalis) was coined to describe people who still identify as human but experience strong, involuntary Non Human Earth-animal instincts that mirror the Omegaverse.
The use of ā-verse,ā shorthand for āuniverseā or āAUā (alternate universe), comes from fictional writing and roleplay spaces. Applying that language to Misce makes it sound like a fictional genre, or something tied to constructed narratives, faux memories of alters/parts of DIDOSDD systems, or past lives of Kin individuals. While thereās nothing inherently wrong with those frameworks using them in misapplication can overshadow and confuse the experiences of Misce+ individuals who are describing this present universe and lived realities of people who do not choose these behaviors or identities as a hobby.
If youāre looking for a broader term to describe Misce alignments and species considered fictional or originating from mythology or folklore you may find this post helpful, Iād encourage others exploring those.
My intention here isnāt to start conflict just to share an observation. As an adult, Iām not interested in engaging in drama or arguing with minors. This isnāt meant in bad faith; itās simply a perspective based on what Iāve been seeing.
Huh, it's been a while since I've been here on this site. But what a pleasant surprise awaited me!
Thank you so much for being understanding over my stance on the whole terminology aspect of things.
I still hold the belief that there's nothing wrong with the other experiences people were/are having, but I just never thought they fit my term the way it was intended to be used. And at the end of the day, that was all it was about.
I get a lot of people don't understand my point of view, or even want to have a dialogue about it. Maybe because they disagree with me (which is their right to do so) or because they just don't like me altogether (I can come across pretty harsh and rude sometimes, so again, completely their right to not like me lol). Regardless of their reasoning, I agree with you that there was no reason to take that beyond what it actually was.
But this being tumblr, what could we expect really? Hahhahaha and you're right. If you take the time to talk to me, and not just talk, but also listen, I am not half as bad as I come across hahhahaha
It always kind of came as a surprise, and odd to me, the things people accused me of. Like "being anti-system", I don't have to justify myself or even show any receipts, but most people that know me semi-personally know that this is very very far from the truth.
And it always seemed a bit weird that these were the things people would level against me? The ones that made no sense hahhahaha like, I have a laundry list of things that you can 100% pin against me as flaws of character or shortcomings, but majority of the ones they choose have little to no basis š
Anyways. Your posts were very kind and lovely and you're a very reasonable and fair. The way you defended me was very touching and I'm very grateful for the kindness you extended to me, even when you had no obligation to do so.
If you need anything, let me know. Count me as a friend āŗļø
Honestly Iāve used misceverse and miscefolk interchangeably ? Like I feel like miscefolk specifically refers to people in the community whereas misceverse moreso refers to the community/practice/identity as a whole ? And that āverseā was just in place of whatever you want to put there, ie canis, felis, avian, draconic, etc
I personally donāt identify fully as human and still use the misce terms, from everything I found I never got the sense it was particularly for people who do or donāt?
On the kin thing I donāt really like the idea that spiritualism is the āoriginalā because that implies psychological or unlabeled is less valid, from everything Iāve read I think itās always been a mix. I certainly donāt think people should invalidate spiritual otherkins i just donāt think the assumption should be one way or the other. Itās up to the individual and I think itās always been that way, people joined together out of shared experiences of feeling nonhuman, it doesnāt have to be more complicated or restricted then that
I find I notice a weird disregard for eachother between therians and otherkins, like the communities seem to ignore eachother
I think itās because they formed separate from eachother, convergent evolution, convergent formation of community
And thatās not even touching on the werefolk community and draconic community, I think itās really sad as someone who branches across all these labels, the amount of hate and negativity and discrediting
When we all face the same issues, weāre all denied a form that feels comfortable weāre all insulted, harassed, people mix us up with furries (which no offense bc I am also a furry but itās completely different) and we face the same allegations of being mentally unwell (and even if we are, we shouldnāt have to face discrimination and discrediting for it) or having harmful paraphilias we all get that
And we also all face the struggle of people taking our labels and misusing them, watering them down, and then refusing to learn.
Sorry I know this second part isnāt really the main point but i just wanted to share my take, spiritual kins were definitely always there and helped form the community but i also think psychological kins have been there the whole time too and either side invalidating the other is useless and just causes harm.
hii!!
this isn't meant to be mean or anything, but do you have sources for the fact endos started as a hate group?
HELLO ANON!!! It's not mean at all and I'm very happy you're asking for sources! This is gonna be a bit long as its a timeline and its sources.
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1989ā1994: Early CDD Newsletters, Forums, and Online Communities
1989: Many Voices
Many Voices was established in 1989 as the first newsletter created specifically for people with complex dissociative disorders (pwCDDs). Although it remains available online today, it is no longer actively updated.
1991: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery (ASAR)
The Usenet group alt.sexual.abuse.recovery was created in 1991. It became home to a large community of CDD systems.
1994: ASARian Incorporated
In 1994, alt.sexual.abuse.recovery evolved into ASARian Incorporated. ASARian provided peer support, web hosting, unix shell accounts, and resources for people with DID/MPD
1994: alt.support.dissociation
Also in 1994, the Usenet group alt.support.dissociation was created. It would go on to become the longest-running support group for people with dissociative disorders. The website remains active, but the last post was made in 2024 as Usenet had declined in its own usage.
1995ā1997: Astraea's Web and the Emergence of Non-Disordered Plurality
Astraea's Website
In 1995, Astraea launched what is considered the first website dedicated to discussing non-disordered plurality. This was the first known website to explicitly address plurality outside of a clinical or disorder-based framework.
Coining of Natural Multiplicity
Around 1996, Astraea introduced the term natural multiplicity. The concept proposed that having multiple personalities was not inherently disordered. Instead, it was framed as a naturally occurring phenomenon that could arise spontaneously, rather than solely through trauma or dissociation. You can find the archive here.
Criticism of Astraea's Web
While initially appealing to some, Astraea's work has been heavily criticized. Critics argue that its sources and rhetoric reflect of extreme ableism, saneism, and dangerous ideological positions that have caused lasting harm There have also been highly credible claims of plagiarism, misattribution, and strong anti-psychiatry bias.
Every source is here, here, here, and here
Astraea's Web is widely regarded as the starting point of what would later become the endogenic community.
1996ā1999: The Development of Mid-Continuum
Sometime in 1996, an early internet plural named Vickis coined the term mid-continuum. The label quickly gained popularity among both dissociative and non-dissociative plural people.
Mid-continuum was rooted in the dissociative continuum model developed by Braun in 1988. Braun's model conceptualized dissociation as existing on a spectrum ranging from: normal experiences (such as daydreaming or zoning out) to polyfragmented DID at the far end. By 1997 and earlier, many DID-focused websitesāincluding Astraea's Webāwere sharing and discussing this model.
Archive of article by Joan A. Turkus, M.D. (1997)
Proof that this article was shared on Astraeaās Web.
What Mid-Continuum Meant
1. It Was Based on a Psychological Model
Many people in the dissociative community identified with Braun's dissociative continuum. Vickis created the term for individuals who felt they fell somewhere in the middle of that spectrum. The label was referred to as 'mid-continuum dissociation' or simply mid-continuum for short. People using the label were often called mid-continuum dissociatives. Vickis later created a webpage devoted to the concept called The Wonderful World of the MidContinuum.
2. It Was Created for Dissociative People
In 1997, Vickis announced the new website on alt.support.dissociation. In that announcement, mid-continuum was explicitly described as a label for dissociative people who did not meet all criteria for DID. On the website, Vickis explained that mid-continuum applied to people who experienced dissociated parts, fell somewhere in the middle of Braun's dissociative continuumāThis included experiences ranging from different roles in different situations, inner children, ego states, parts or fragments that did not feel like whole people, and having some, but not all, diagnostic criteria for DID.
A quote from the homepage:
āEveryone dissociates. At one end of the dissociative continuum is ānormalā or ācommonā dissociation that nearly everyone engages in[ā¦] At the other end are the behaviors that characterize āclassicalā multiples, who may have large numbers of very distinct insiders with little internal communication, serious difficulties with time loss, amnesia, and so on.
Between these two extremes, there is a lot of gray. Ranging from having different ārolesā that you live out in different situations, to having an āinner childā or āinner childrenā with varying degrees of separateness, to having āego states,ā āpartsā or āfragmentsā that donāt seem to be whole people, to having some but not all of the diagnostic criteria for what is now known as DID[ā¦]ā
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Message Archive
Mid-Continuum Website Archive
3. It Was Created Out of Respect for People with DID
At the time, DID was still commonly referred to as MPD or simply multiplicity within online dissociative communities. Vickis and others believed it would be disrespectful to call themselves multiple if they did not have DID. They felt that doing so could minimize the struggles of people with DID. This was a major reason for creating the mid-continuum label. Vickis specifically noted that they did not experience time loss, had never experienced amnesia in that way, did not have communication barriers between parts, and did not face the same struggles as those further along the dissociative continuum Because of this, they did not want to equate their experiences with those of people living with DID.
From their essay on the subject (here):
ā[ā¦] someone elsewhere in this thread said something like āI donāt want to call myself multiple because I donāt want to minimize the sufferings of those who are really multipleā. And I can really relate to that. Thatās why I say Iām not-quite-multiple usually. Because I donāt lose time and never have, I canāt possibly know what thatās like⦠I donāt have barriers that prevent communication between parts⦠I donāt have the struggles that people who are further down the continuum from me have, and I would never want to minimize their issues by claiming that my own are the same.ā
4. Mid-Continuum and OSDD
Much of Vickis' writing strongly resembles what is now recognized as OSDD (formerly DDNOS). However, OSDD/DDNOS was rarely mentioned directly in their earlier work. It might've been due to the lack of research surrounding OSDD thenāas it only was properly researched in the 2000's and 2010'sāand Vickis wanting to use a less clinical term.
In 1999, Vickis remarked that people identifying as mid-continuum often received an OSDD diagnosis if they pursued formal evaluation. This was only mentioned briefly.
Late 1990's: The Precursor to Median
Over several years, mid-continuum became increasingly popular across the internet. It attracted a broad range of people within plural communities. As the label grew, anti-DID/OSDD and anti-psychiatry communities began objecting to it. Their objections were largely tied to mid-continuum's origins in dissociative theory and psychology.
Dark Personalities listed many psychological terms as derogatory to empowered and natural multiples, including DID, alter, and host. Mid-continuum itself also became a target of criticism.
The Push for a Replacement Term
Dark Personalities stated: "Since many people feel the idea of a continuum to be inaccurate, many are seeking a new term instead of mid-continuum." This effort to replace mid-continuum would eventually lead, in the 2000s, to the rise of the term median.
2000s: Median Replaces Mid-Continuum
An anti-DID/OSDD organization later coined the term median as a replacement for mid-continuum. Median became significantly more popular. As a result, mid-continuum gradually fell out of common use.
On the Pavilion website, Astraeaās Web wrote an essay on the midcontinuum and why they came up with the median label to replace it.
āItās important to allow the concept to be inclusive of everyone who fits, regardless of past abuse history or origins, much as is currently being done for āmultiplicity.ā With its roots in the abuse-dissociation model, midcontinuum is too limiting; it is no longer useful to us. Median creates a certain measure of psychological distance and gives the concept a fresh start, without the dissociative baggage of the past, and embraces all who feel they are more than one.ā
(X X X)
ARCHIVE , ALSO APPLIED TO BELOW TIMELINE;
Pavillion's Policies Archive ā "MPD/DID vs. Multiple"
Pavillion's Library Archive ā "A brief history of Midcontinuum"
The Lancers' Codex ā "Addressing the MPD/DID Issue"
2002ā2007: The Rise of Median, Natural Multiplicity Activism, and Organized Anti-DID Campaigns
2003: Median Replaces Mid-Continuum
In 2003, the natural multiplicity organizations The Lancers and Pavilion Hall decided that mid-continuum was too rooted in psychology and dissociation. They argued that it was overly limiting because it was based on the abuse-dissociation model and did not adequately include people whose plurality was understood as non-traumagenic or non-dissociative.
As a result, they coined the term median to replace mid-continuum. Unlike mid-continuum, which was grounded in Braun's dissociative continuum model, median was intentionally broader and more abstract. Pavilion described plurality not as a linear spectrum, but as a sphere with infinitely many possible points, emphasizing fluidity, diversity, and nonlinear identity. According to their framework, someone could identify as median if they experienced themselves as multiple selves, but did not perceive those selves as fully independent.
This shift represented a significant philosophical departure. Mid-continuum had originally been created by dissociative people for dissociative people. Median, by contrast, was created by non-dissociative natural multiplicity advocates who believed mid-continuum was too psychologically grounded and insufficiently inclusive of their experiences.
Median and the Exclusion of DID/OSDD Systems
The Lancers and Pavilion Hall did not intend for people with DID or OSDD to use the median label. Their philosophy held that people with dissociative disorders were not truly plural, multiple, or median unless they no longer met diagnostic criteria. In their view, only "functional" and "non-disordered" individuals could properly claim these identities. If someone with DID or OSDD functioned according to their standards, they were considered no longer disordered.
Because their definitions of plurality and medianhood were often broad and vague, many people with DID and OSDD nevertheless identified with the concept despite the organizations' intentions.
1998ā2014: Empowered Multiplicity, MultiGardens, and the Natural Multiplicity Movement
Empowered Multiplicity and MultiGardens
Out of the natural multiplicity movement emerged the concept of empowered multiplicity, which placed a strong emphasis on functionality and distinguished itself from what proponents called "survivor multiples."
In 1999, MultiGardens was established, though it was short-lived. Not long afterward, the person who coined the term "empowered multiplicity" stated that it had never been intended to exclude trauma survivors and that they had not meant to create so much conflict. Despite this, they continued to criticize survivors, as well as those who sought fusion or therapeutic treatment.
Natural Multiplicity as a Movement
By the early 2000s, natural multiplicity had evolved into a full-fledged movement. Its central aim was to establish that plural experiences were not inherently pathological. Many participants insisted that childhood trauma or abuse could not cause plurality or multiplicity.
Even to this day, plurals insist that pwCDDs are looking to blame someone for something they already hadāpushing the narrative that pwCDDs were multiple prior to abuse and would've been multiple if it hadn't happenedāand that we have internalized pluralphobia because we 'hate ourselves'
Natural multiplicity was not simply about advocating for non-disordered plurality; it also positioned itself in opposition to people with complex dissociative disorders (pwCDDs). Astraea and associated groups actively sought to challenge the legitimacy of DID and MPD as diagnoses, including attempts to have DID removed from the DSM.
Even after the term natural multiple began to be replaced by endogenic around 2014ālargely because "natural" implied that systems with CDDs were somehow unnaturalāthe underlying ideological framework remained much the same. The earliest documented use of the term endogenic dates to 2014.
2000ā2010s: The DID Boycott and Anti-Psychiatry Campaigns
For a whole decade, activists associated with the natural multiplicity and anti-psychiatry movements campaigned to challenge, revise, or remove the DID diagnosis from the DSM. This movement was deeply intertwined with both anti-psychology rhetoric and natural multiplicity ideology.
Prominent essays from this campaign included:
āAstraeaās Multiple Personality FAQāĀ by Astraeaās Web, archived in 2000.
āNo Moreā¦āĀ by Astraeaās Web, archived in 2000.
āRemoving Diagnostic LabelsāĀ by Astraeaās Web, archived in 2001.
āWhy We Are Not MPD/DIDāĀ by Dark Personalities, archived in 2001.
āSome Thoughts on VerbiageāĀ by a guest on Astraeaās Web, archived in 2001.
āWe donāt have Multiple Personality DisorderāĀ by The Shire, archived in 2001.
āTerminologyāĀ by Those That Walk, archived in 2002.
āThe Politics of LanguageāĀ by Bent Spoons, archived in 2002.
āFixing The DSMāĀ by a guest on Astraeaās Web, archived in 2003.
This boycott significantly harmed people with complex dissociative disorders. Boycotters frequently argued that pwCDDs were not real, or that their diagnoses should be removed from diagnostic manuals. Natural and empowered multiplicity communities often paired their advocacy with broader opposition to psychiatry and psychology.
At a time when DID research was already sparse, controversial, and often inaccurate, these campaigns further complicated public and clinical understanding of dissociative disorders.
2002ā2003: "Fixing The DSM"
"Fixing The DSM" was an essay written by The Jinkies in 2002 and published on Astraea's Web in 2003. It had previously appeared on Pavilion Hall's LiveJournal forum and in Pavilion's library. (X X X)
The essay argued that the DID and OSDD diagnoses should either be revised to better represent non-dissociative plural experiences or removed from the DSM entirely.
Jinkies contended that people without DID or OSDD might feel excluded from plural identity because they did not meet diagnostic criteria. They criticized the DSM for defining DID and OSDD in terms of dissociation, arguing that this invalidated non-dissociative plural experiences.
The essay ultimately proposed replacing DID with the term Ego-Dystonic Plurality, a phrase coined by the creator of Astraea's Web. Modeled after the historical diagnosis of Ego-Dystonic Homosexuality, this proposed label would have stripped DID and OSDD of their established clinical frameworks.
Jinkies concluded by asserting that non-disordered experiences do not belong in the DSM. While that statement is true in itself, DID and OSDD are inherently disordered conditions, making the proposal fundamentally incompatible with the realities of those diagnoses.
2002: The Formation of The Lancers and Pavilion Hall
In June 2002, two sister organizations were formed: The Lancers and Pavilion Hall. Both were self-described natural multiplicity activist groups. Though inactive today, their influence remains substantial. Their last known activity appears to have been in 2015.
These organizations were responsible for coining the term median system, creating the Layman's Guide to Multiplicity, and popularizing the idea of plurality as an umbrella term. Their impact on modern plural terminology and discourse remains significant.
The Lancers
Formation and Purpose;
The Lancers were founded to "resolve the conflict between plural and non-plural types" and to foster understanding between singlets, medians, and multiples. Despite this stated goal, they did not support DID or what they disparagingly referred to as "survivorwhine sites."
Membership Requirements;
Membership was restricted to natural multiples. People with DID or OSDD were explicitly excluded.
Applicants were required to sign the In Essence Pledgeāviewed here and hereāaffirming that they were functioning and sane. They were also expected to publicly display this pledge on their websites and follow the organization's codex. Failure to comply could result in removal.
The organization strongly emphasized appearing non-disordered. Prospective members who were not yet functioning well enough to present themselves as "strong, sane, and responsible" were discouraged from joining.
They stated that if your system ācannot yet work functionally together in daily life, do not ask to join. If you wish to help the Lancers but haven't got things sufficiently together to be able to present to the world as strong, sane, and responsible, look elsewhere for help -- Astraea's is a good place to begin [...]ā (X)
The Codex;
The Lancers developed a body of internal theory known as the Codex, which outlined their views on natural multiplicity. Among its concepts were "paths," later renamed "fires," though these terms did not gain widespread use. Their most enduring contribution was the term median, which replaced mid-continuum.
Pavilion Hall
Formation and Purpose;
Pavilion Hall was founded around the same time as The Lancers by the same group of people. Like The Lancers, Pavilion excluded people with DID and OSDD.
Pavilion described itself as an activist organization dedicated to promoting positive views of healthy multiplicity. Its goals included challenging the classification of multiplicity as a mental disorder, establishing common ground among plurals, and promoting natural multiplicity theories in both academic and non-academic settings. [X]
Membership;
Members were expected to live as healthy multiples so as not to undermine their mission of ending the idea that multiplicity was a disorder. While signing the In Essence Pledge was encouraged, it was not mandatory. [X]
Hierarchy;
You can read a more in-depth explanation of these positions on their page here
Pavilion had a five-tier organizational hierarchy:
Frontliners: The Frontlinersā main job was to seek out places where they could spread the word of natural multiplicity. This mainly included any space specifically centering around DID/OSDDāforums (discussed more below), websites (X), and articles (X), as well as mental health clinics (X), and even dissociative specialists such as from the ISSTD (X). They also occasionally sought out spiritual or unorthodox spaces to āconvert,ā such as a soulbonding forum. (X)They usually referred to this job as responding to āaction alerts.ā This part of Pavilion was surprisingly coordinated. You can find an action alerts page on their website here. You can also find an action alerts tag on their forums here.Another job for Frontliners was to āmonitorā DID/OSDD forums, find people who they suspected didnāt actually have DID/OSDD, and bring them into the natural multiplicity community. (X X X)Ā Here is a page they wrote on their justification behind this.
The Pavilion website also had an entire section called The Armory, which was dedicated to hosting resources specifically for Frontliners to do this sort of work. (X)
Scholars: These were theĀ members of Pavilion who wrote the essays that the Frontliners could use in their arguments or discourse. They also supported the organization through other means such as researching counterarguments against psychology, or creating new websites for Pavilion to spread their purpose.
Knights/Coordinators: This was a temporary position. Members became Coordinators for the duration that they were running a project for Pavilion.Ā One example of a Pavilion project would be Project Bananarama (later renamed Paperchase), in which they mailed out over 200 Pavilion brochures to psychologists and dissociative specialists. (X)
Diplomats: These were the members who spread Pavilionās purpose offline in real life areas.Ā One example of Pavilionās offline activism would be slipping notes about natural multiplicity inside of DID/OSDD books. (X)
Castles/Directors: This appeared to be the highest level of the hierarchy. Directors were the leaders of Pavilion who kept an eye on every other membersā activity and projects.
One notable Pavilion project, originally called Project Bananarama and later renamed Paperchase, involved mailing more than 200 brochures promoting natural multiplicity to psychologists and dissociative specialists.
MEMBERS;
An archived list of The Lancerās members can be found here.
An archived list of Pavilionās members can be found here.
Another archived list of Pavilionās members can be found here.
Concerning Activities of The Lancers and Pavilion
Documented behaviors included:
Mailing hundreds of natural multiplicity brochures to dissociative specialists
Editing and vandalizing the DID Wikipedia page (SEE BELOW)
Arguing that people with DID could not truly be multiple until they were no longer "dysfunctional" Ā (X X)
Ridiculing PTSD- and DID-focused events, writings, and individuals (X X)
Joking about disrupting DID/OSDD conventions Ā (X)
Monitoring DID/OSDD forums for potential recruits (SEE HIERARCHY ABOVE)
Coordinating "action alerts" to target specific spaces or publications (SEE HIERARCHY ABOVE)
Joking about "converting" others to natural multiplicity (X)
Drawing inspiration from anti-DID groups such as the False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF) (X)
Openly advocating for the removal of DID and OSDD from diagnostic manuals (X)
ARCHIVES
The Lancersā Website Archive
The Lancersā Public LiveJournal Forum
The Lancersā Codex Archive
Pavilionās Website Archive
Pavilionsā Public LiveJournal Forum
The Laymanās Guide to Multiplicity
Lancers/Pavilionsā Multiplicity Brochure
2003ā2006: Pavilion and the DID Wikipedia Article
In February 2003, Pavilion members coordinated an effort to edit the Wikipedia article on Dissociative Identity Disorder.
Using Pavilion's "action alert" system, Astraea Household encouraged members to revise the article. Pavilion member Amorpha drafted and implemented substantial edits. You can read their rough draft here.
These changes shifted the article's focus toward controversy and introduced extensive material about "healthy multiplicity" (also called natural multiplicity). The revised article suggested that many multiples were not diagnosed, did not need therapy, did not have histories of childhood trauma, and did not wish to integrate
It also proposed that DID should be revised or removed from the DSM to accommodate natural multiples.
āBecause such multiples do not experience their condition as disordered or sick in any way, some have proposed that the diagnosis of DID be removed from the DSM entirely, or revised to classify multiples who have difficulty communicating and sharing memories and/or wish to integrate.ā
These additions remained in the article until 2006, when they were removed for lacking relevance to DID. Shortly afterward, the broader controversy section was also removed.
Archive of natural/healthy multiplicity removal & reasoning.
Archive of controversy removal & reasoning.
archive of the edit Amorpha made to the Wikipedia article
2005ā2007: The Natural/Healthy Multiplicity Wikipedia Article
A separate Wikipedia article on natural or healthy multiplicity was later created. This article blended concepts of natural multiplicity with the clinical treatment goal of healthy multiplicity (also called resolution). Here is an archive of the edit Amorpha made to the Wikipedia article.
It also reflected Pavilion's belief that people with DID or OSDD who cooperated well internally no longer truly had those disorders.
The article relied heavily on sources created by Pavilion members, including:
Astraea's Web
Collective Phenomenon
Their shared LiveJournal community
The Layman's Guide to Multiplicity
Pavilion Hall
The Lancers
In 2007, the article was nominated for deletion due to its reliance on blogs, forums, and original research rather than reliable secondary sources. The nomination was successful, and the article was deleted.
This deletion highlighted a central problem for natural multiplicity advocates: despite extensive searching, they were unable to find substantial professional or academic support for the concept as an innate, non-pathological state. You can read the thread about it here.Ā
Amorpha expressed frustration towards the reasons for deletion, specifically regarding 'reliable' sources. They explained that no matter how much they searched the Internet for proof, they could not find any professionals discussing natural multiplicity. The only thing they could find on healthy multiplicity was, obviously, related to CDD treatment.
āWe helped to work on that article. It was deleted for containing ātoo much original researchā and ānot enough acceptable sources.ā The sources thing was the real problem-- we've really tried combing the Internet for that, but they're looking for āsecondary sourcesā, aka articles by doctors or journalists or someone working in some āprofessionalā capacity. And there honestly just isn't much. Most of the professionally-written material we've come across that mentions healthy multiplicity in any way approached it from the standpoint that it's all MPD/DID, and proposing the āradicalā idea that multiples don't have to integrate (though, of course, it's always suggested that they're only supposed to be capable of living independently and non-integrated after being in therapy for years).
I don't object to using those as sources, as I think a big point to be emphasized in the whole concept of healthy multiplicity is that a system can start out disordered and come to be healthy and stable in time, but what we needed and couldn't find were sources talking about it as a natural state of being-- not necessarily in terms of a pathological deviation from the norm[...]ā
Holy shit someone actually found the old information about Sybil and darkpersonalities.net. I was convinced it had been buried or lost after I attempted to comb the internet for MONTHS looking for this information. Weāve been around a long time, older than most tumblr users now so to see that people have archived this information so it isnāt lost to the indoctrination misinformation propaganda is amazing.
hii!!
this isn't meant to be mean or anything, but do you have sources for the fact endos started as a hate group?
HELLO ANON!!! It's not mean at all and I'm very happy you're asking for sources! This is gonna be a bit long as its a timeline and its sources.
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1989ā1994: Early CDD Newsletters, Forums, and Online Communities
1989: Many Voices
Many Voices was established in 1989 as the first newsletter created specifically for people with complex dissociative disorders (pwCDDs). Although it remains available online today, it is no longer actively updated.
1991: alt.sexual.abuse.recovery (ASAR)
The Usenet group alt.sexual.abuse.recovery was created in 1991. It became home to a large community of CDD systems.
1994: ASARian Incorporated
In 1994, alt.sexual.abuse.recovery evolved into ASARian Incorporated. ASARian provided peer support, web hosting, unix shell accounts, and resources for people with DID/MPD
1994: alt.support.dissociation
Also in 1994, the Usenet group alt.support.dissociation was created. It would go on to become the longest-running support group for people with dissociative disorders. The website remains active, but the last post was made in 2024 as Usenet had declined in its own usage.
1995ā1997: Astraea's Web and the Emergence of Non-Disordered Plurality
Astraea's Website
In 1995, Astraea launched what is considered the first website dedicated to discussing non-disordered plurality. This was the first known website to explicitly address plurality outside of a clinical or disorder-based framework.
Coining of Natural Multiplicity
Around 1996, Astraea introduced the term natural multiplicity. The concept proposed that having multiple personalities was not inherently disordered. Instead, it was framed as a naturally occurring phenomenon that could arise spontaneously, rather than solely through trauma or dissociation. You can find the archive here.
Criticism of Astraea's Web
While initially appealing to some, Astraea's work has been heavily criticized. Critics argue that its sources and rhetoric reflect of extreme ableism, saneism, and dangerous ideological positions that have caused lasting harm There have also been highly credible claims of plagiarism, misattribution, and strong anti-psychiatry bias.
Every source is here, here, here, and here
Astraea's Web is widely regarded as the starting point of what would later become the endogenic community.
1996ā1999: The Development of Mid-Continuum
Sometime in 1996, an early internet plural named Vickis coined the term mid-continuum. The label quickly gained popularity among both dissociative and non-dissociative plural people.
Mid-continuum was rooted in the dissociative continuum model developed by Braun in 1988. Braun's model conceptualized dissociation as existing on a spectrum ranging from: normal experiences (such as daydreaming or zoning out) to polyfragmented DID at the far end. By 1997 and earlier, many DID-focused websitesāincluding Astraea's Webāwere sharing and discussing this model.
Archive of article by Joan A. Turkus, M.D. (1997)
Proof that this article was shared on Astraeaās Web.
What Mid-Continuum Meant
1. It Was Based on a Psychological Model
Many people in the dissociative community identified with Braun's dissociative continuum. Vickis created the term for individuals who felt they fell somewhere in the middle of that spectrum. The label was referred to as 'mid-continuum dissociation' or simply mid-continuum for short. People using the label were often called mid-continuum dissociatives. Vickis later created a webpage devoted to the concept called The Wonderful World of the MidContinuum.
2. It Was Created for Dissociative People
In 1997, Vickis announced the new website on alt.support.dissociation. In that announcement, mid-continuum was explicitly described as a label for dissociative people who did not meet all criteria for DID. On the website, Vickis explained that mid-continuum applied to people who experienced dissociated parts, fell somewhere in the middle of Braun's dissociative continuumāThis included experiences ranging from different roles in different situations, inner children, ego states, parts or fragments that did not feel like whole people, and having some, but not all, diagnostic criteria for DID.
A quote from the homepage:
āEveryone dissociates. At one end of the dissociative continuum is ānormalā or ācommonā dissociation that nearly everyone engages in[ā¦] At the other end are the behaviors that characterize āclassicalā multiples, who may have large numbers of very distinct insiders with little internal communication, serious difficulties with time loss, amnesia, and so on.
Between these two extremes, there is a lot of gray. Ranging from having different ārolesā that you live out in different situations, to having an āinner childā or āinner childrenā with varying degrees of separateness, to having āego states,ā āpartsā or āfragmentsā that donāt seem to be whole people, to having some but not all of the diagnostic criteria for what is now known as DID[ā¦]ā
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Message Archive
Mid-Continuum Website Archive
3. It Was Created Out of Respect for People with DID
At the time, DID was still commonly referred to as MPD or simply multiplicity within online dissociative communities. Vickis and others believed it would be disrespectful to call themselves multiple if they did not have DID. They felt that doing so could minimize the struggles of people with DID. This was a major reason for creating the mid-continuum label. Vickis specifically noted that they did not experience time loss, had never experienced amnesia in that way, did not have communication barriers between parts, and did not face the same struggles as those further along the dissociative continuum Because of this, they did not want to equate their experiences with those of people living with DID.
From their essay on the subject (here):
ā[ā¦] someone elsewhere in this thread said something like āI donāt want to call myself multiple because I donāt want to minimize the sufferings of those who are really multipleā. And I can really relate to that. Thatās why I say Iām not-quite-multiple usually. Because I donāt lose time and never have, I canāt possibly know what thatās like⦠I donāt have barriers that prevent communication between parts⦠I donāt have the struggles that people who are further down the continuum from me have, and I would never want to minimize their issues by claiming that my own are the same.ā
4. Mid-Continuum and OSDD
Much of Vickis' writing strongly resembles what is now recognized as OSDD (formerly DDNOS). However, OSDD/DDNOS was rarely mentioned directly in their earlier work. It might've been due to the lack of research surrounding OSDD thenāas it only was properly researched in the 2000's and 2010'sāand Vickis wanting to use a less clinical term.
In 1999, Vickis remarked that people identifying as mid-continuum often received an OSDD diagnosis if they pursued formal evaluation. This was only mentioned briefly.
Late 1990's: The Precursor to Median
Over several years, mid-continuum became increasingly popular across the internet. It attracted a broad range of people within plural communities. As the label grew, anti-DID/OSDD and anti-psychiatry communities began objecting to it. Their objections were largely tied to mid-continuum's origins in dissociative theory and psychology.
Dark Personalities listed many psychological terms as derogatory to empowered and natural multiples, including DID, alter, and host. Mid-continuum itself also became a target of criticism.
The Push for a Replacement Term
Dark Personalities stated: "Since many people feel the idea of a continuum to be inaccurate, many are seeking a new term instead of mid-continuum." This effort to replace mid-continuum would eventually lead, in the 2000s, to the rise of the term median.
2000s: Median Replaces Mid-Continuum
An anti-DID/OSDD organization later coined the term median as a replacement for mid-continuum. Median became significantly more popular. As a result, mid-continuum gradually fell out of common use.
On the Pavilion website, Astraeaās Web wrote an essay on the midcontinuum and why they came up with the median label to replace it.
āItās important to allow the concept to be inclusive of everyone who fits, regardless of past abuse history or origins, much as is currently being done for āmultiplicity.ā With its roots in the abuse-dissociation model, midcontinuum is too limiting; it is no longer useful to us. Median creates a certain measure of psychological distance and gives the concept a fresh start, without the dissociative baggage of the past, and embraces all who feel they are more than one.ā
(X X X)
ARCHIVE , ALSO APPLIED TO BELOW TIMELINE;
Pavillion's Policies Archive ā "MPD/DID vs. Multiple"
Pavillion's Library Archive ā "A brief history of Midcontinuum"
The Lancers' Codex ā "Addressing the MPD/DID Issue"
2002ā2007: The Rise of Median, Natural Multiplicity Activism, and Organized Anti-DID Campaigns
2003: Median Replaces Mid-Continuum
In 2003, the natural multiplicity organizations The Lancers and Pavilion Hall decided that mid-continuum was too rooted in psychology and dissociation. They argued that it was overly limiting because it was based on the abuse-dissociation model and did not adequately include people whose plurality was understood as non-traumagenic or non-dissociative.
As a result, they coined the term median to replace mid-continuum. Unlike mid-continuum, which was grounded in Braun's dissociative continuum model, median was intentionally broader and more abstract. Pavilion described plurality not as a linear spectrum, but as a sphere with infinitely many possible points, emphasizing fluidity, diversity, and nonlinear identity. According to their framework, someone could identify as median if they experienced themselves as multiple selves, but did not perceive those selves as fully independent.
This shift represented a significant philosophical departure. Mid-continuum had originally been created by dissociative people for dissociative people. Median, by contrast, was created by non-dissociative natural multiplicity advocates who believed mid-continuum was too psychologically grounded and insufficiently inclusive of their experiences.
Median and the Exclusion of DID/OSDD Systems
The Lancers and Pavilion Hall did not intend for people with DID or OSDD to use the median label. Their philosophy held that people with dissociative disorders were not truly plural, multiple, or median unless they no longer met diagnostic criteria. In their view, only "functional" and "non-disordered" individuals could properly claim these identities. If someone with DID or OSDD functioned according to their standards, they were considered no longer disordered.
Because their definitions of plurality and medianhood were often broad and vague, many people with DID and OSDD nevertheless identified with the concept despite the organizations' intentions.
1998ā2014: Empowered Multiplicity, MultiGardens, and the Natural Multiplicity Movement
Empowered Multiplicity and MultiGardens
Out of the natural multiplicity movement emerged the concept of empowered multiplicity, which placed a strong emphasis on functionality and distinguished itself from what proponents called "survivor multiples."
In 1999, MultiGardens was established, though it was short-lived. Not long afterward, the person who coined the term "empowered multiplicity" stated that it had never been intended to exclude trauma survivors and that they had not meant to create so much conflict. Despite this, they continued to criticize survivors, as well as those who sought fusion or therapeutic treatment.
Natural Multiplicity as a Movement
By the early 2000s, natural multiplicity had evolved into a full-fledged movement. Its central aim was to establish that plural experiences were not inherently pathological. Many participants insisted that childhood trauma or abuse could not cause plurality or multiplicity.
Even to this day, plurals insist that pwCDDs are looking to blame someone for something they already hadāpushing the narrative that pwCDDs were multiple prior to abuse and would've been multiple if it hadn't happenedāand that we have internalized pluralphobia because we 'hate ourselves'
Natural multiplicity was not simply about advocating for non-disordered plurality; it also positioned itself in opposition to people with complex dissociative disorders (pwCDDs). Astraea and associated groups actively sought to challenge the legitimacy of DID and MPD as diagnoses, including attempts to have DID removed from the DSM.
Even after the term natural multiple began to be replaced by endogenic around 2014ālargely because "natural" implied that systems with CDDs were somehow unnaturalāthe underlying ideological framework remained much the same. The earliest documented use of the term endogenic dates to 2014.
2000ā2010s: The DID Boycott and Anti-Psychiatry Campaigns
For a whole decade, activists associated with the natural multiplicity and anti-psychiatry movements campaigned to challenge, revise, or remove the DID diagnosis from the DSM. This movement was deeply intertwined with both anti-psychology rhetoric and natural multiplicity ideology.
Prominent essays from this campaign included:
āAstraeaās Multiple Personality FAQāĀ by Astraeaās Web, archived in 2000.
āNo Moreā¦āĀ by Astraeaās Web, archived in 2000.
āRemoving Diagnostic LabelsāĀ by Astraeaās Web, archived in 2001.
āWhy We Are Not MPD/DIDāĀ by Dark Personalities, archived in 2001.
āSome Thoughts on VerbiageāĀ by a guest on Astraeaās Web, archived in 2001.
āWe donāt have Multiple Personality DisorderāĀ by The Shire, archived in 2001.
āTerminologyāĀ by Those That Walk, archived in 2002.
āThe Politics of LanguageāĀ by Bent Spoons, archived in 2002.
āFixing The DSMāĀ by a guest on Astraeaās Web, archived in 2003.
This boycott significantly harmed people with complex dissociative disorders. Boycotters frequently argued that pwCDDs were not real, or that their diagnoses should be removed from diagnostic manuals. Natural and empowered multiplicity communities often paired their advocacy with broader opposition to psychiatry and psychology.
At a time when DID research was already sparse, controversial, and often inaccurate, these campaigns further complicated public and clinical understanding of dissociative disorders.
2002ā2003: "Fixing The DSM"
"Fixing The DSM" was an essay written by The Jinkies in 2002 and published on Astraea's Web in 2003. It had previously appeared on Pavilion Hall's LiveJournal forum and in Pavilion's library. (X X X)
The essay argued that the DID and OSDD diagnoses should either be revised to better represent non-dissociative plural experiences or removed from the DSM entirely.
Jinkies contended that people without DID or OSDD might feel excluded from plural identity because they did not meet diagnostic criteria. They criticized the DSM for defining DID and OSDD in terms of dissociation, arguing that this invalidated non-dissociative plural experiences.
The essay ultimately proposed replacing DID with the term Ego-Dystonic Plurality, a phrase coined by the creator of Astraea's Web. Modeled after the historical diagnosis of Ego-Dystonic Homosexuality, this proposed label would have stripped DID and OSDD of their established clinical frameworks.
Jinkies concluded by asserting that non-disordered experiences do not belong in the DSM. While that statement is true in itself, DID and OSDD are inherently disordered conditions, making the proposal fundamentally incompatible with the realities of those diagnoses.
2002: The Formation of The Lancers and Pavilion Hall
In June 2002, two sister organizations were formed: The Lancers and Pavilion Hall. Both were self-described natural multiplicity activist groups. Though inactive today, their influence remains substantial. Their last known activity appears to have been in 2015.
These organizations were responsible for coining the term median system, creating the Layman's Guide to Multiplicity, and popularizing the idea of plurality as an umbrella term. Their impact on modern plural terminology and discourse remains significant.
The Lancers
Formation and Purpose;
The Lancers were founded to "resolve the conflict between plural and non-plural types" and to foster understanding between singlets, medians, and multiples. Despite this stated goal, they did not support DID or what they disparagingly referred to as "survivorwhine sites."
Membership Requirements;
Membership was restricted to natural multiples. People with DID or OSDD were explicitly excluded.
Applicants were required to sign the In Essence Pledgeāviewed here and hereāaffirming that they were functioning and sane. They were also expected to publicly display this pledge on their websites and follow the organization's codex. Failure to comply could result in removal.
The organization strongly emphasized appearing non-disordered. Prospective members who were not yet functioning well enough to present themselves as "strong, sane, and responsible" were discouraged from joining.
They stated that if your system ācannot yet work functionally together in daily life, do not ask to join. If you wish to help the Lancers but haven't got things sufficiently together to be able to present to the world as strong, sane, and responsible, look elsewhere for help -- Astraea's is a good place to begin [...]ā (X)
The Codex;
The Lancers developed a body of internal theory known as the Codex, which outlined their views on natural multiplicity. Among its concepts were "paths," later renamed "fires," though these terms did not gain widespread use. Their most enduring contribution was the term median, which replaced mid-continuum.
Pavilion Hall
Formation and Purpose;
Pavilion Hall was founded around the same time as The Lancers by the same group of people. Like The Lancers, Pavilion excluded people with DID and OSDD.
Pavilion described itself as an activist organization dedicated to promoting positive views of healthy multiplicity. Its goals included challenging the classification of multiplicity as a mental disorder, establishing common ground among plurals, and promoting natural multiplicity theories in both academic and non-academic settings. [X]
Membership;
Members were expected to live as healthy multiples so as not to undermine their mission of ending the idea that multiplicity was a disorder. While signing the In Essence Pledge was encouraged, it was not mandatory. [X]
Hierarchy;
You can read a more in-depth explanation of these positions on their page here
Pavilion had a five-tier organizational hierarchy:
Frontliners: The Frontlinersā main job was to seek out places where they could spread the word of natural multiplicity. This mainly included any space specifically centering around DID/OSDDāforums (discussed more below), websites (X), and articles (X), as well as mental health clinics (X), and even dissociative specialists such as from the ISSTD (X). They also occasionally sought out spiritual or unorthodox spaces to āconvert,ā such as a soulbonding forum. (X)They usually referred to this job as responding to āaction alerts.ā This part of Pavilion was surprisingly coordinated. You can find an action alerts page on their website here. You can also find an action alerts tag on their forums here.Another job for Frontliners was to āmonitorā DID/OSDD forums, find people who they suspected didnāt actually have DID/OSDD, and bring them into the natural multiplicity community. (X X X)Ā Here is a page they wrote on their justification behind this.
The Pavilion website also had an entire section called The Armory, which was dedicated to hosting resources specifically for Frontliners to do this sort of work. (X)
Scholars: These were theĀ members of Pavilion who wrote the essays that the Frontliners could use in their arguments or discourse. They also supported the organization through other means such as researching counterarguments against psychology, or creating new websites for Pavilion to spread their purpose.
Knights/Coordinators: This was a temporary position. Members became Coordinators for the duration that they were running a project for Pavilion.Ā One example of a Pavilion project would be Project Bananarama (later renamed Paperchase), in which they mailed out over 200 Pavilion brochures to psychologists and dissociative specialists. (X)
Diplomats: These were the members who spread Pavilionās purpose offline in real life areas.Ā One example of Pavilionās offline activism would be slipping notes about natural multiplicity inside of DID/OSDD books. (X)
Castles/Directors: This appeared to be the highest level of the hierarchy. Directors were the leaders of Pavilion who kept an eye on every other membersā activity and projects.
One notable Pavilion project, originally called Project Bananarama and later renamed Paperchase, involved mailing more than 200 brochures promoting natural multiplicity to psychologists and dissociative specialists.
MEMBERS;
An archived list of The Lancerās members can be found here.
An archived list of Pavilionās members can be found here.
Another archived list of Pavilionās members can be found here.
Concerning Activities of The Lancers and Pavilion
Documented behaviors included:
Mailing hundreds of natural multiplicity brochures to dissociative specialists
Editing and vandalizing the DID Wikipedia page (SEE BELOW)
Arguing that people with DID could not truly be multiple until they were no longer "dysfunctional" Ā (X X)
Ridiculing PTSD- and DID-focused events, writings, and individuals (X X)
Joking about disrupting DID/OSDD conventions Ā (X)
Monitoring DID/OSDD forums for potential recruits (SEE HIERARCHY ABOVE)
Coordinating "action alerts" to target specific spaces or publications (SEE HIERARCHY ABOVE)
Joking about "converting" others to natural multiplicity (X)
Drawing inspiration from anti-DID groups such as the False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF) (X)
Openly advocating for the removal of DID and OSDD from diagnostic manuals (X)
ARCHIVES
The Lancersā Website Archive
The Lancersā Public LiveJournal Forum
The Lancersā Codex Archive
Pavilionās Website Archive
Pavilionsā Public LiveJournal Forum
The Laymanās Guide to Multiplicity
Lancers/Pavilionsā Multiplicity Brochure
2003ā2006: Pavilion and the DID Wikipedia Article
In February 2003, Pavilion members coordinated an effort to edit the Wikipedia article on Dissociative Identity Disorder.
Using Pavilion's "action alert" system, Astraea Household encouraged members to revise the article. Pavilion member Amorpha drafted and implemented substantial edits. You can read their rough draft here.
These changes shifted the article's focus toward controversy and introduced extensive material about "healthy multiplicity" (also called natural multiplicity). The revised article suggested that many multiples were not diagnosed, did not need therapy, did not have histories of childhood trauma, and did not wish to integrate
It also proposed that DID should be revised or removed from the DSM to accommodate natural multiples.
āBecause such multiples do not experience their condition as disordered or sick in any way, some have proposed that the diagnosis of DID be removed from the DSM entirely, or revised to classify multiples who have difficulty communicating and sharing memories and/or wish to integrate.ā
These additions remained in the article until 2006, when they were removed for lacking relevance to DID. Shortly afterward, the broader controversy section was also removed.
Archive of natural/healthy multiplicity removal & reasoning.
Archive of controversy removal & reasoning.
archive of the edit Amorpha made to the Wikipedia article
2005ā2007: The Natural/Healthy Multiplicity Wikipedia Article
A separate Wikipedia article on natural or healthy multiplicity was later created. This article blended concepts of natural multiplicity with the clinical treatment goal of healthy multiplicity (also called resolution). Here is an archive of the edit Amorpha made to the Wikipedia article.
It also reflected Pavilion's belief that people with DID or OSDD who cooperated well internally no longer truly had those disorders.
The article relied heavily on sources created by Pavilion members, including:
Astraea's Web
Collective Phenomenon
Their shared LiveJournal community
The Layman's Guide to Multiplicity
Pavilion Hall
The Lancers
In 2007, the article was nominated for deletion due to its reliance on blogs, forums, and original research rather than reliable secondary sources. The nomination was successful, and the article was deleted.
This deletion highlighted a central problem for natural multiplicity advocates: despite extensive searching, they were unable to find substantial professional or academic support for the concept as an innate, non-pathological state. You can read the thread about it here.Ā
Amorpha expressed frustration towards the reasons for deletion, specifically regarding 'reliable' sources. They explained that no matter how much they searched the Internet for proof, they could not find any professionals discussing natural multiplicity. The only thing they could find on healthy multiplicity was, obviously, related to CDD treatment.
āWe helped to work on that article. It was deleted for containing ātoo much original researchā and ānot enough acceptable sources.ā The sources thing was the real problem-- we've really tried combing the Internet for that, but they're looking for āsecondary sourcesā, aka articles by doctors or journalists or someone working in some āprofessionalā capacity. And there honestly just isn't much. Most of the professionally-written material we've come across that mentions healthy multiplicity in any way approached it from the standpoint that it's all MPD/DID, and proposing the āradicalā idea that multiples don't have to integrate (though, of course, it's always suggested that they're only supposed to be capable of living independently and non-integrated after being in therapy for years).
I don't object to using those as sources, as I think a big point to be emphasized in the whole concept of healthy multiplicity is that a system can start out disordered and come to be healthy and stable in time, but what we needed and couldn't find were sources talking about it as a natural state of being-- not necessarily in terms of a pathological deviation from the norm[...]ā
Why are scissors designated Omegas? Why are text symbol arrows being designated as Alphas ? Im so very confused. This feels like an imitation of the French languageā replicating the need to assign male and female pronunciation or spelling to everyday objects only in this case itās Misce+ designations.
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I hope this discussion doesn't come across as pointless terminology discourse. My concern isn't entirely or wholly with the words themselves, it is also taking issue with the deeply troubling attitude toward Null that I've witnessed within the misce community. I've seen far too many posts and anonymous on a particular coiners blog in passing via asks that paint Null in a horrifically insulting light, baselessly accusing them of being anti-system, anti-alterhuman; anti-kin and worse.
Let's be clear: this was never just about terminology. This is about the flagrant disrespect shown to the very person who created the foundation for this entire community. Without Null (pack-the-pack), none of you would even have a space to occupy, let alone a name for your shared experiences. The bare minimum one can offer is respect for their stated wishes, rather than responding with backlash, verbal abuse, rumors or complete disregard.
It speaks volumes that some members can't be troubled to coin their own terms or use others. Instead, they choose to piggyback on someone else's work while completely disregarding and even going so far as causing public drama or verbally demeaning the demographic for which those terms were originally intended. This isn't community building; it's mean spirited entitlement.
Iām already noticing that this community is becoming increasingly saturated with both children and adults who put āspiritual kinā in quotation marks, as if Otherkin/Kinning didnāt originate as a Neo-pagan belief. Over time, that origin has been diluted and reframed into a hobby or simply having a strong relationship to a character, animal, or concept, something that in most other contexts would be received as immensely disrespectful or dismissive of a religious or spiritual practice.
The spiritual concept of Kin along with its original meaning has effectively been pushed out of its own space by Tumblr users and hobbyists. This mirrors whatās now happening with Miscefolk, which is being reinterpreted and reshaped into āMisceverseā by a similar demographic. In both cases, the terms are drifting away from their original intent and audience, displacing the people they were created to represent. Weāve already seen this happen with Kin or Spiritual Kin, which is now often referenced in a derogatory or trivializing way. Itās disheartening to watch the same pattern repeat with Miscefolk versus Misceverse terminology.
I am not afraid to say I think many people have either misunderstood or deliberately misinterpreted the original coiner of #Miscefolk ās post, reducing it to scare monger claims that āthey just hate alterhumans, therians, kinnies, or systems.ā From personal experience interacting with them on more than one occasion I know this is completely misplaced slander.
The term Miscefolk (along with related terms like miscecanis and misceanimalis) was coined to describe people who still identify as human but experience strong, involuntary Non Human Earth-animal instincts that mirror the Omegaverse.
The use of ā-verse,ā shorthand for āuniverseā or āAUā (alternate universe), comes from fictional writing and roleplay spaces. Applying that language to Misce makes it sound like a fictional genre, or something tied to constructed narratives, faux memories of alters/parts of DIDOSDD systems, or past lives of Kin individuals. While thereās nothing inherently wrong with those frameworks using them in misapplication can overshadow and confuse the experiences of Misce+ individuals who are describing this present universe and lived realities of people who do not choose these behaviors or identities as a hobby.
If youāre looking for a broader term to describe Misce alignments and species considered fictional or originating from mythology or folklore you may find this post helpful, Iād encourage others exploring those.
My intention here isnāt to start conflict just to share an observation. As an adult, Iām not interested in engaging in drama or arguing with minors. This isnāt meant in bad faith; itās simply a perspective based on what Iāve been seeing.
i find the idea that the miscemunity doesnt include """fictional""" species so odd. ESPECIALLY as a system.
we are real people with real biology, behavior and instincts. we just align with what your world views as "not a real species" or "came from fiction"
but that doesn't stop me from... being a real person with a real species?
idk, maybe we're to sensitive but sometimes it almost feels pluralphobic/sm else idk to have my species and being called fictional and not real enough to use the same terminology as everyone else.
If we say fictional means fake and illigitimate in this case then what are we saying about fictionkin with this sentiment? Why is the term fiction legitimate or non derogatory in one community but seemingly dubbed or misinterpreted as an intentional act of othering by a coiner who made the term specifically for experiences only they can acclaim and account for? Isnāt it good that the coiner of #Essenti #Mystiori and the umbrella term #Misce+ it is coined by a non human alter of a OSDD systemā Iād find it strange for a singlet and human identifying individual to coin such terms personally.
This aside It is not unreasonable to feel this way. I take the āfictionalā label on the beak to refer to what other people do not believe to exist in this current universe as a species as their own personal understanding of the world they currently live in.
I do understand how that feels very othering to other people. I personally chalk it up to the way some people believe some deities exist while not believing in others, or how atheists believe there is no afterlife compared to other people who may believe in an afterlife but no particular or definitive deity.
Of course this doesnāt exactly help the sensation or worry others view your species or existence as āfakeā or āfantasyā. Generally speaking though these people are usually incredibly ignorant or harmlessly uninformed or misinformed. I see the inclusion of Essenti and Mystiori a branch the way Otherkin, Fictionkin and Therian are all different experiences for different groups with strong overlap under the Alterhuman umbrella.
There was a reason for people who have past life experiences or relations as earth animals to differentiate themselves among people who recall past life experiences or relate to/as a person or species in a universe unlike our own that many in our current one would dub fictional.
I do not believe everyone uses the term fictional to directly reference to fakeness or illegitimacy. Perhaps itās better to refer to these groups or species as supernatural or crypto zoological?
I am an advocate for people doing whatever they want with a/b/o, but sometimes I can't tell if people are using the "misce" side of it for real people, or if they're using it for fictional things. And that is slightly uncomfortable...
Again you can do whatever you want. I'm not the Misce police. But the uncertainty at times is disconcerting.
If they're using it for real people, then that's that. But if they're using to refer to fictional people and things part of me wonders if they know about real misce people, and if they do, why would you use it for fictional things?
This isn't a bashing post of "how dare you!" or "we own the right to everything related to it, you can't have it!". It is a genuine inquiry.
Is there a reason? Is this just a mix up or misunderstanding? Am I unaware of something I should be aware of?
Like I could, 100% be missing the plot and there's an obvious reason for it all.
Waiting for clarification if anyone could help me with this one.
agreed! zero hatred to those who interact with omegaverse NOT as an identity system, but sometimes under the #miscecanis tag I canāt tell if Iām interacting with someone who is a miscecanid themself or are merely making headcanons! I was under the impression that the miscecanis label originally existed partially to make that distinction! I wonder if there is some other way to make it clear? maybe #actually miscecanis or #actually omegaverse ?
Yeah, exactly. I genuinely cannot tell if I'm witnessing a misce individual, or if I'm just seeing someone who thinks this is just "another omegaverse trope to be used in fictional works".
And yeah, I created the label in order to distinguish this aspect of us (misces) from the rest of the Omegaverse fans and creators. Obviously at the time when I created the term I was only thinking of canine-like and more traditionally presenting misce people, aka people that identified with the more traditional and classic interpretations of Omegaverse. Which, admittedly, was an oversight on my part. But it was a self-leveling issue, given others expanded on it in order to include different presentations. Such as:
- Miscefelis
- Miscelupus (technically this one I suggested also at the time of the coigning of the term),
- Misceanimalis
- Miscelapin (I don't know if I can call this one also deriving from my own suggestion in this post. Because it might have been in use before by other people).
And so on and so forth. And to be very clear, I have no issue with these expansions, at all.
But the influx of new labels and scents makes me confused, and I think the crux of this confusion is the term I keep seeing over and over again: Misceverse.
I've seen the suffix "verse" refer to things in the real world before such as "twitterverse". But even then, the connotation behind the usage was often one of sarcasm and mockery, exactly because the suffix made it sound like something less than real, something apart from reality. And this is its most common usage.
People use the suffix verse to refer to a universe (hence the name) that is different from this one. Its focus is other, and its inhabitants are also other. I can give a practical example:
The Veraverse fanfics, by infamous author George DeValier. It was called that because the fanfics were written around the framework of Vera Lynn's war songs.
I guess the exception to this would be when regarding cosmological terms such as "omniverse" or "multiverse", or even more recent virtual or augmented reality spaces, such as the "metaverse".
But even then, the connotation is still one of separation, one of otherness and departure from our current reality.
And within omegaverse itself there's the issue that we all call our made up worlds and collection of headcanons "our verse/my verse". Which I understand can be used to refer to one's interpretation of something, but it also refers to fictional ideas and concepts, yet again making it difficult to set apart which is which. It just adds to the confusion.
It makes me uncertain when I see that word. Because we aren't apart from reality, we still live in the same world we always lived in, only now as misce-aligned individuals. A main reason for the choice of this blog's name btw.
It makes me wonder if they're referring to a fictional construction. A world other than this one, where there are characters or people with these scents and identities, or if they're referring to the community.
If it's the former then I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding on their part on what Misce is and its intended usage (which, again, still bears no form of authority because I remain not being the Misce police) and I think a word other than "misce" would be more appropriate in order to avoid all this identification problem. If it's the later, then I still think the term is ill fitting, for the reasons I expressed previously.
And what worries me about it, is the potential confusion it might cause for those outside of the community or Omegaverse to begin with. If you're an outsider looking in, and saw the term "misceverse", wouldn't you assume it's a variant or even interchangeable term with Omegaverse itself, and thus, a fictional trope? I know I would. It's not unlikely at all, this whole confusion stems from this very connection. And if you are someone who thinks misce is applicable to only fictional things, then why wouldn't you tag the whole post or work with misce tags? They aren't at fault for doing so. Because the term (misceverse) is muddy and frankly misleading.
I think it should be altered or dropped in order to prevent the mix up and prevent potential misunderstanding. Because it could cause the term (misce and its variants) to become essentially useless.
I'll try to give some suggestions, granted y'all don't have to take any of the ones I suggest. Come up with something more to y'all's liking if you wish, but I do strongly advise to ultimarely drop misceverse.
Suggestions:
⦠[Referring to data or information on any misce-aligned identity]
- Miscelloge (misce + sylloge).
- Miscelectum/miscelegis/Miscelegere or whatever the correct form is (Misce + many forms of the word "lego").
- Misceinfo.
- Miscentitatis (Misce + Identitatis).
- Miscendicina (Misce + Indicina).
- Miscertyria (Misce + Martyria).
- Miscehood.
- Miscelegium (Not to be confused with legumes, but derived from the word florilegium, this one is my personal favourite due to this connection).
⦠[Referring to the community or collective of Misce-aligned identities]
- Miscemia (a little medical sounding, but it could work).
- Miscemedley.
- Miscemunity. (Misce + Community - I particularly like this one, I think it's cute)
- Misceglomerate.
- Miscekith (I made sure to not make this one "miscekin" as not to further confuse people, given the whole otherkin community).
- Misceciety (Misce + Society).
To finish it off, I'm not saying all of this in order to be mean, or to "gatekeep" or to bash or diminish or "call out" people for doing these things. I don't think they did anything wrong or with ill intent. But ultimately my concern is that we Misce people may lose our space here and other places, which mind you is already rather small and niche, due to potential confusion. Confusion that can be avoided and corrected by simply changing the word we use to refer to it. So no, I don't think it's just a matter of semantics. I think it's a matter of self-preservation.
Alas this is all my own opinion. I don't know if other Misce people would agree with me or not. And honestly this is an individual decision, and no one, including I, can tell you what you should or should not do.
I do, however, beg everyone in the misce community, or that has come in contact with it to think about it. It may seem small and insignificant to you, all this that I'm saying, but it's very important to other people. And I think that's enough reason to at least consider it.
Already seeing this community is very rampant with children and adults putting āspiritual kinā in quotations like this as if Otherkin/Kinning wasnāt originally a Neo pagan belief people decided to turn into a hobby that anyone else would say is outright disrespectful or weird to do to any other religious belief, following or aspect.
Spiritual Kin and the origins of the term have been pushed out of their own community by tumblr kids and hobbyists the very same way Miscefolk has been taken over and redefined into Misceverse by children and some adults. This is successfully pushing out the demographic the term was originally made for ā shockingly similarly to what happened to spiritual kin who are now referred to in large by the tumblr in derogatory contexts or quotations.
Itās sad witnessing these same things echoed over Misceverse vs Miscefolk terminology.
I think many people have misread or intentionally misinterpreted the original coiners post to break it down into āthey just hate or think alterhumans, therians, otherkin, fictionkin or DIDOSDD systwns are cringe or weirdā. Knowing Null personally this just isnāt true at all. When Null the coiner of Miscefolk/Miscecanis/Misceanimalis made the term it was to reflect people who still identify as HUMAN with EARTH ANIMAL INSTINCTS.
āVerseā is short for universe which is another name or tag for AU meaning alternate universe. Such terms are used by roleplayers and fictional writers. So this is why we say use of āVerseā waters down the original origins and intentions to be mistaken for a fictional genre, a separate universe, faux memories from alters/parts in DIDOSDD systems or even past life memories by certain religious or spiritual groups.
Nothing is wrong with any of these groups although it definitely overshadows and confuses a community who are speaking on current lived experiences as Misce+ individualsā those of us who do not voluntarily choose or select these behaviors or ways of living as a fun hobby.
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So I talked at lenght about my thoughts on the term "misceverse" in this post right here and then reenphasized it all in this one. So I won't extend myself on that again.
But I would like to bring yet another thing on that regard to the community at large, something I spoke about with others in my own server and I have the vague memory of speaking about it here on tumblr too, but couldn't find any old post or reblog on it. And it is somehitng that a pack member of mine even came up with new terminology and a flag for.
Which is: I do not think Miscecanis or even the suffix "misce" fit with mythological and fictional creatures and the people who identify with such beings.
Now, things I need to preface before continuing. This is not a hate post, this is not necessarily to "gatekeep" and I'm not really calling out anyone here. It is merely something I think makes sense and could serve the misce community and this new community a lot better than just having misce alone as an umbrella term.
My pack-mate and friend @maliciousarmor came up with a new terminology for people who identify with fictional or mythical creatures in a manner similar to how misce poeple identify with real earthen animals, they called it:
"Essenti/Essentitas" - For non-human but still humanoid identities (vampires, sirens, demons, etc.)
and
"Mystiori/Mystirigo" - For mythical and non-human animal identities (dragons, cryptids, phoenix, etc.)
Personally I find these absolutely lovely and magical. I think it makes for a great new space for those which aren't the classical interpretation of "misce" and its intended original usage. To me "Essenti" and "Mystiori" sound so nice and I love the meaning behind it, You can find their whole explanation and original post right here!
In summary, I still stand in my belief that fictional (or mythical) things regarding omegaverse and its tangential spheres aren't really the most fitting things to exist in the misce umbrella. And honestly after talking to maliciousarmor about it, I think it is wonderful that they came up with these new terms and the flag (which I'll show below, because it's honestly gorgeous too). We are still similar, but we aren't the same, basically it's what I'm saying. This way we're still connected, but have more clear definitions for everyone. Like sister or cousin communities. Together but apart.
Anyways, I'll reiterate that this is not a hate post or even a way of "kicking" anyone out. As I said before I am not the misce police. But I do think my friend's passion and effort should be regognized and if you feel in your heart that this is the community for you, please support them by adopting their terminology and helping to spread it to more of your friends and loved one who can also use a loving space and community such as this.
Long life and prosperity to the Senti and Mysti community!
Essentiāalso called Sentiāis a term for individuals or system parts with non-human yet humanoid identities (such as vampires, sirens, or demons). These individuals feel a connection to the sexes, genders, and cultural frameworks found in the Omegaverse, and often report instinctual inclinations toward behaviors commonly associated with it. Essenti should not be confused with the Omegaverse genre trope itself. The identity is not rooted in kink, fetish, or roleplay, despite common misconceptions.
Mystioriāalso called Mystiāis a term for individuals or system parts with non-human mythical creature identities (such as dragons, unicorns, or griffins). These beings feel a connection to the sexes, genders, and cultural frameworks found in the Omegaverse, and often report instinctual inclinations toward behaviors commonly associated with it. Mystiori should not be confused with the Omegaverse genre trope itself. The identity is not rooted in kink, fetish, or roleplay, despite common misconceptions.
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I donāt support the use of my flags or terms by anyone who identifies as or supports endogenic systems. I am strongly opposed to an ideology that was largely supported and founded by an individual who has privilege as a white cisgender able bodied woman (Sybil, creator of the now dead site Astreasweb.net that for a long time was the hub or go to site for endos), who has spouted and encouraged ableism even going so far as to prey on and exploit vulnerable people with DIDOSDD to feed them vitriol to encourage harmful narratives about the disorder. This includes Sybilās contributions of her creation of the now dead website Darkpersonalities.net where Sybil encouraged those with diagnosed DIDOSDD to showcase their worst parts and alters in an effort reinforce the stigma that DIDOSDD is a scary harmful evil diagnosis with āserial killerā alters or similar. I am disgusted with her intentional targeted predation of vulnerable people with the inclusion of her use of beliefs from the otherkin community to influence and recruit a larger network of supporters for this movement.