sick of the trans movement

and even the informed consent paperwork lists atrophy as a side effect of testosterone. why would that be a painless experience? if your arm or your lungs started to “atrophy”, to become weaker and smaller, couldn’t they also start to hurt?

trans guys take testosterone for the systemic, permanent, whole-body effects, right?… and you don’t believe people when they say “this drug has systemic permanant effects, all throughout the body”?

Here and here are some reddit screenshots both from r/detrans and r/ftm.

Here is my master spreadsheet of reddit testimonials which is currently sitting at 89 entries (don't think I've been sleeping on it! And don't think I haven't started archiving the posts ;)))) they're there forever bb :)))) .

I saw this from the female separatism subreddit & the responses are some of the biggest reasons for separatism et al (or extinction if I'm being candid here). Moids cant be reformed they are fully aware of the hell they force women to live in. MaIe achievement & happiness is rooted in female exploitation & life. Their glory days are based on our horrific days. No amount of love, kindness or facts will change maIes and we cannot happily or even neutrally coexist with them.

Main points across answers:

Many want to experiment but not permanently be women

They dont want to be in constant danger or lose their autonomy at the hands of maIes for merely existing

They dont want to deal with childbirth (& periods)

They dont want to have to share spaces with species much stronger than them with ulterior motives

It makes me go crazy seeing people give moids benefit of doubt for their evil like "maIes just dont understand", "we need to teach maIes", or claiming that maIe violence is a result of maIes struggling with (expressing) their feelings. I get that women love maIes and it can be hard to imagine that people can intentionally be so evil but it is what it is. MaIes have no problems expressing themselves, abusing women is what maIes choose to do because they enjoy & benefit from it - that is their expression.

MaIes see the same news of women being abused, raped, and killed like we do except rather than be disheartened or alarmed they're either apathetic or satisfied. It isn't aliens that's committing GBV it's maIes & maIes have no problem reminding women of this when women anger them (such as rape threats & threatening women they'll end up on the news/true crime). The victim blaming, denial, and derailment of misogyny is part of the game to keep the system alive, they know the events occured & are a systemic occurence they just dont care. Hell not only do they not care, they rejoice in it or get off on it.

MaIes set up environments that work in their favour which simultaneously ensures that women will lose. They know women are set up to live in damn near impossible conditions for us. It's normalised for women to defenselessly share personal & private spaces with beings much more stronger than them with ulterior motives for us, it's trap. It's interesting how these moids aren't saying that they'll just cover up and *poof* harrassment gone, or they'll just pick a nice guy & they'll be okay. MaIes know the net negative they are towards women.

MaIes know that childbirth is a painful process & what do they do? Demand it happens and make it even MORE painful for women. MaIes that impregnate women do not love or care for them. Pregnancy itself is dangerous & sometimes lethal, often comes with a range of health issues, to cause someone to be in that condition especially in a environment where abortions are illegal is reckless & unloving. Now imagine how sinister & full of hatred one has to be to impregnate someone and abuse them on top of that. Many women risk their health & lives to reproduce with a Y and they get abused by said Y instead of being taken care of. Deranged.

TLDR: Don't waste time debating or educating moids. Focus on (building for) yourself & other women who aren't maIe apologists.

Few others in my gallery I couldn't include in the main post:

“Before Money came along, those who failed to fit society’d pigeonholes were customarily dismissed as deviants and freaks. It was this sexologist who in 1955 introduced the label ‘gender’, which until then had been used only for grammatical classification. In English, we recognize the gender of the words such as king and queen or ram and ewe. Money borrowed this grammatical label, saying that for him gender refers to “all those things that a person says or does to disclose himself or herself as having the status of boy or man, girl or woman, respectively.” He set gender apart from biological sex, aware of the occasional disparity between those two. He also founded the world first Gender Identity Clinic at Johns Hopkins University in 1965.”

So every single gender non-conforming person is trans? Women who don’t perform femininity are trans? All men who wear makeup are trans? That’s what “expression” is.

And what about not conforming to roles? Is Malala trans because she wanted to go to school in a culture where a girl’s role was to remain uneducated? Are stay at home dads trans? Are female CEOs trans? Are all same sex attracted people trans?

But like… jax is the MOST accurate transfem character. You’ve got a self-insert straight from the gift horses mouth. I personally believe the reason they’re uncomfortable is because it’s so accurate in the ways that they’re not supposed to show the general public: hatred towards women, bullying tmes/“theyfabs”, a fetishised view of what a woman is, allergic to accountability.

It honestly seems weirdly close to the reaction to the puppygirl essay. A trans woman putting the spotlight on trans women in a way that other trans women can’t stand; because it breaks the illusion of an innocent femininity with no unsavoury traits.

“A trend I noticed with trans people is they keep getting to ‘come out’ so to speak and get a wave of praise every time they do. I’m trans! I’m getting hormones! I changed my name! I got my gender marker changed! I’m getting surgery! Whatever. Over and over and over.”

And if they don’t have any milestones to report when they want attention, they can just post about how much of a victim they are. They can post about being misgendered or wax poetic about how terrible the world is for trans identified people. On the flip side, they can post about “gender euphoria”. No matter what, their trans identity ensures they always have something to post or share with others to get showered in attention and validation. Nothing else really offers this endless supply of praise on demand.

And this is something I’ve noticed too. Trans identified people want to tell you that they’re thinking of getting XYZ done. Then they want to tell you that they scheduled the appointment. Then they want to tell you the appointment’s coming up and they’re nervous and excited. Then that they’re on the way to their appointment. Then that they got their referral or prescription. Then they announce their surgery date or first day on wrong sex hormones. Then they start yapping about their upcoming cosmetic surgery. They post when it’s coming up, when it’s the month/week/day before, when they’re going in, when they’ve gotten out. Then they gush about the results. And it never ends! In my experience it’s absolutely exhausting to be around because it starts to feel like, what, you need me to give you attention for your trans identity again? Haven’t we already done this like ten times? Why do you need validation from me, can’t you find it within yourself?

A teacher, Luisa Velázquez Herrera, dismantles the myth of self-determination of sex:

“For about 16 years, I’ve taught feminist courses and workshops, and I can assure you that no one manages to answer this exercise about these assumptions, no matter how much they defend men or how queer they are. I always concede the point before starting the example:

“Okay, let’s suppose that gender is a choice, that’s what you’ve said, right? That means we can stop being women.” “They answer ‘yes’ with conviction.

“Very well, then let’s launch massive campaigns to encourage all women and all girls not to ‘perceive’ or ‘identify’ as women.” If that puts an end to rape, femicide, the exploitation of girls and women in trafficking networks, in homes, and obstetric violence, we have the solution right under our noses… “—Doesn’t that put an end to violence?

What?! So, gender isn’t a voluntary choice? Don’t we ask women what their gender is before assaulting them?”

“I swear that not a single queer person, right there in front of me, said never a word.” “I wait a few seconds, the last minute arrives, nothing, the silence persists…..”

“Okay… I’ll end the tension… feminism highlights this: patriarchal oppression isn’t based on individually perceived identities, but on women’s sexed bodies, and listen, it’s not because my body contains an ‘essence’ of oppression, it’s because men chose violence and decided what women would be in the system they founded.”

Let's suppose, finally—I say this to conclude the example—that tomorrow everyone wakes up "non-binary," dresses androgynously, and shows creativity in their appearance; rest assured that in the kitchen, in the bathrooms, carrying babies, and suffering obstetric and sexual violence, we women will still be there. That is gender.