But I did sadly find myself enjoying the characters
I think this wouldāve done wonderfully as a mystery drama tv show like super natural or teen wolf rather than a movie. Tumblr wouldāve eaten it up esp with Toby and Stu.
Also change the ending so that Jordan did kill the counselor but hands the gun over to the doctor and is like āyou can keep killing. Iām going my own path.ā Still cheesy. But ya know. I feel like more relatable and more satisfying for the audience
The worst thing you can see in a movie you didnāt like is potential and man.
Maybe Iāll make a rewrite prompt later of this movie
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I donāt think Mary is in the wrong during the backrooms movie. (ESPECIALLY DURING THE DINNER SCENE THAT REACTION WAS SO VALID OF HER)
She was trying to help. Or at least do what she perceives as help
She just went about it so very wrong and was very clearly not the type of treatment Clark needed
Obviously therapy canāt fix a person fully and we havenāt seen any previous sessions between the two
But she definitely is more of a āself help guide for those who are already on the right track to getting things back togetherā vs Clark who is āweāre starting from nothingā
Keep in mind Iām not a psychologist (so take everything I say with a grain of salt.) but Iāve talked to many people who have been to therapy, and Iāve offered comfort and community to a lot of people/ talked people down from rash decisions.
But Mary had her own stuff going on and tried so very hard to keep her facade up of having it together. Which is causing her own stagnation of change
And when she does change (getting more blunt, letting go of the past, and focusing on smaller details.) sheās too late. Her fate was sealed when she broke a therapy code of conduct.
She heard Clarkās voice message which sounded like a mental break and instead of sending other people to check on him. (Standard practice for a wellness check if not contacting the patients contacts) she went by herself. And ended up trapped again cause well. I think she saw Clark as a project or a chance at redemption after what happened to her mom.
And thatās what lead to her downfall.
God I love her. More flawed women on the verge of breaking at all times please
Second time seeing the Backrooms let me know how much ppl ignore what Clark expressly stated about his own character when Kane Parsons has said in an interview about how he explicitly did not WANT his lore to be complicated or hard to understand. You take the film at face value and you dig underneath for fun, but ultimately, the characters say what they mean upfront. The director wanted this Backrooms film to be a good starting point for any future additions to the lore so that it could remain accessible to new fans. You even get spoon fed the way the Backrooms work.
Clark WANTS to change in the beggining. Heās not there because of an offscreen unmentioned court order, heās there because he knows he hurts others and wants to change. Heās scared heās destined to be alone, and he doesnāt truly want that.
He still cares for his wife, he loves Barbara, heās ultimately still paying for the house and not evicting her or starting a divorce process to take it. He pays for it before he pays for his own store bills when he lives there! I donāt think heās a good guy, but heās trying at this point. Heās in therapy because he knows he needs it. Hell, Captain Clarkās expression is literally warped into shock at his own actions cause thatās how Clark reacts to his own outbursts and rage. Immediate shock, fear, and guilt. He does bad things, but itās not out of intentional malice.
Itās why heās an interesting abuser!! Heās the type of guy that it be hard to convince others is actually bad because it takes him a lot to get to that point over others. It takes him reliving the moment of being kicked out when heās roleplaying with Mary to have him lash out again, and it shows how it stems from him redirecting his own embarrassment and stress from burnout into anger. His own therapist points out how itās a normal response for someone to have, he needs to work on it and change his own responses, but itās a pretty typical redirection.
Shame feels bad, no one wants to be embarrassed and stressed. Change is hard! His development is so interesting because he gets the opportunity to remain where he is and remain the same person and he takes it. Which makes Mary remember him as someone who doesnāt want to stop hurting people, adding with how he already hurt her and dragged her off (and likely him hurting Async members during his time in the backrooms), makes Captain Clark hurt him.
Clark feels entitled to the backrooms! It showed up in his dead end store at the end of his rope, he feels like this is made for him. His sense of direction from the first time he enters the backrooms shows how he genuinely suits the place. Alongside Captain Clark, he feels welcomed by it. He can explore, he can feel belonging, he actively helps create the architecture (which he shows interest in abstract architecture as well), and he canāt be hurt there (until he solidified himself as someone who is fine with hurting anyone which reflected into his entity).
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Feels like people talking about the Backrooms are sailing right by the unbelievable damage that Mary did to Clark as his therapist. Mary's disdain for Clark shone through to me from the very beginning of the movie. It was visible to me in just that first scene that Mary didn't think Clark was capable of change. That she thought that Clark blaming the structural and systemic issues he faces in life was him not wanting to try harder. By the dining room scene, when she finally says her opinion of him outright, I already had worked that out. And her opinion does NOT make sense to me. Clark wears a shirt from an architectural conference to bed, he has an office full of concept art and drawings, when he discovers the Backrooms he maps a non-Euclidean space with remarkable accuracy over what looks to be MANY trips before he brings his employees along...and he's trapped working a dead-end sales job. Of course, people can make bad decisions or decide not to work for what they want, but everything about Clark screams to me that he tried. And instead of success and support that his wife and Mary got in their academic and professional lives, Clark had doors closed in his face and discovered that he can't access the things he's worked for because of the systemic issues that black men face.
Of course he resents his wife. Of course he resents Mary. It doesn't justify his violent actions, but the dynamic remains: on a systemic level, they're the ones with the power. Let's take a peek at the "I pay for the house" situation. His wife is the one who lives there while he sleeps at the store. Why isn't she the one who moved out, if he's the one actually paying? This seems weird unless you consider who the legal system will side with in a conflict. Will it side with a black man who struggles with alcohol and may have done something violent, or a white woman in upper education who was potentially the target of violence? Obviously Clark's wife deserves safety and security, but there's still a very tense power dynamic at play here. There are real-world stories about the awful things that have happened to black men who were accused of wrongdoing by white women, even if those accusations were false. Clark is absolutely aware of that, and aware of what could happen.
So there's a whole racial background that Mary (a white female therapist) is missing. And there's another thing here: Mary has the power to have Clark institutionalized against his will. He asks her about that, when he brings the Backrooms map to her. She could do that regardless of race, but race adds another layer of potential harm. If Mary calls the police on him, Clark will at best be dragged to the hospital in the back of a cop car and have to endure involuntary hospitalization when the person with his power of attorney (his wife) is rightfully very angry at him. And, again, from real-life tragedies...at worst, if Mary calls the cops, Clark could end up dead.
Even without the Backrooms, Clark can't fully open up to Mary. He can't be as vulnerable as he needs to be with a mental healthcare professional. The trust simply isn't there. Clark never had a chance of finding healing in Mary's office. Of course he didn't want to change in the end. Was life in the Backrooms really that much different from the life he was living before?
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BACKROOMS SPOILERS BUT HERE I GO RAMBLING ABOUT THE MOVIES CHARACTERS
Aaagh Iām obsessed with Clark from the backrooms movie
Like genuinely
My favorite thing ever is being able to see multiple interpretations of something/ a character and Clark is so complex, so layered, so- WELL WRITTEN just
It makes me giddy thinkin about him
Like yes heās undeniably a bad guy in some ways (murder)
But also. Like holy fuck- feeling completely alone and that the world is better without you- feeding others dreams when your own dreams sink- feeling like your own emotions get pushed to the side- loosing everything- seeking change at first but also fearing it- entering a world where your worst thoughts and desires may manifest without consequence or judgment- not even your last name is given- you killed your employee but before you did everything you tried to protect them- youāre careless and also cautious- you get consumed by the manifestation of your worse self
So many aspects can be interpreted on him. Iāve seen him interpreted as an abuser, victim, etc. and itās all so good. I LOVE the variety of him
Mary is complex but also in comparison easier to understand in terms of who she is, what she represents. Which contrast AMAZINGLY with Clark. We see less of her in the beginning compared to Clark.
She seeks to fix and help people. But she canāt even fix herself. She couldnāt fix her mother. Because you can never truly fix someone. You may give them support and hope they change. You provide resources and advice. But fixing isnāt the way to go about that line of thinking when it comes to helping people in a psychological field.
Her therapy sessions are shallow, and often one sided in terms of discussion with her clients. Itās all with well intent but she was also very rigid with her methods till the end.
Unlike Clark she changed! She at first didnāt see a point in changing. But when times got dire she had to. She starts being more blunt about what she thinks, she tells Clark the truth of his psyche and options and we see her embrace change by destroying a remnant of her past self.
But she changed to late. And now sheās doomed herself to whatever async has planned for her.
We also see her backstory much more clearly than Clarkās which is only through voice.
Sheās so much more straight forward and the consensus to her is mostly the same. While we see variety with Clark.
We see Mary in the past. Who she used to be. And we see Clark in the present. Who he is now.
And the fact that Clark's still life literally eats him after he tells it quote "We don't have to change!" Is a beautiful metaphor for how mental illness will eat you alive if you don't do anything to stop it and just let it get worse and worse.
hiiiiii i saw the backrooms movie and it was really fantastic so I drew this (inspired by the painting "Saturn Devouring His Son" by Francisco de Goya)
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MOVIE SPOILERS !! Scroll away if you havenāt seen the movie ^^
I honestly really really like the āPirate Clark is actually Real Clarkā theory and Iāve been thinking about it a lot. Iām gonna drop some further observations to support the theory because I caught myself sobbing over it earlier, I NEED TO YAP.
So we all know Clark was in the backrooms for a month. We donāt really get into it that much in the movie, but I like to think that Pirate Clark is the result of exposure to the bacteria. (Disclaimer: Bacteria ā the lifeform) Maybe the bacteria is like some spores or something. Or maybe the bacteria IS a separate entity, who knows. The bacteria infected Clark MLP infection AU style and slowly progressed him into Pirate Clark.
I also wanted to note that his eyes + expression are super fearful and almost sad looking. Not happy, not even angry, just sad. Terrified. The bacteria slowly degrades his physical form AND his intelligence (ability to speak/function like a human), Clark knows what heās become.
Now what about the other Clark? I donāt really have any other logical explanation other than heās just a mimic. Heās an entity, yes, but heās not a still life. There has to be other entities. This also supports that Pirate Clark isnāt a still life and that heās a bacterial host. Dinner scene Clark is a version of him. The two are two sides of the same coin, hence why Dinner Scene Clark also experiences Clarkās emotions and memories. Maybe Dinner Clarkās amazement at the still lives was a facade to keep Mary closer? Then again he untied her, but with the trust that sheād maybe change her mind. Long story short: it could honestly be anything with Dinner Scene Clark.
Back to Pirate Clark ā Heās shown no violence in the Month of āClarkā being there, he even treats Pirate Clark like a friend. He even reassures him āwe donāt have to change.ā Except after seeing Mary, it was finally an excuse, it was a glimmer of hope. Pirate Clark WANTS to change, he wants to revert his condition. He doesnāt know how, but heās mindlessly desperate. So in response, he kills the other Clark and chases after Mary. Also notice how the RedHead still life and the wheelchair still life were freaking out as Pirate Clark showed up? They knew shit was up. We see Pirate Clark chasing Mary, but we never actually see him do harm to her. He canāt speak, he can only yell out and run after her. His noises felt less like āGRARRR IāM GONNA EAT YOU1!!1!ā and more like āNo, no no. Please donāt go, this is my only chance to get help. Iāve changed my mind, I donāt want to be here.ā Even after he loses his peg leg, he still crawls to her desperately. When he eventually crawls over, it feels more like heās trying to reach out to her (anddd cue the tears.) He did lean his head down but he never opened his mouth to bite down or anything. If anything, he looked exhausted. Even when she was bashing his head in, he didnāt care, he just wanted her help, he wanted ANYTHING.
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