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All of the following are extreme performances of femininity that have faced backlash and caused discourse around what it means to be an acceptable feminine woman in society by undermining what is typically expected or accepted from hyper feminine women

Examples of subversive hyper femininity:

1. Lolita fashion in Japan: This form of dress specifically developed to resist the stifling pressure of Japanese society to grow up into a mature, reasonable, and picturesque woman

2. The emergence of Goth culture in the UK: Goth culture has caused various moral panics as it was considered sexually deviant due to its emphasis on hyper femininity and androgyny when it first emerged

People hate goth girls and women for not being feminine enough. They might hate goth men and boys for being too feminine, but OP was explicitly talking about hyperfemininity in women.

1. Within Japan, the use of the word Lolita for Lolita fashion has long been acknowledged as a superficial borrowing of the aesthetic of the word itself rather than any allegiance to the material text. The fashion itself developed, not out of inspiration from the book, but as a way to disgust others and/or rebel against growing up by embracing the childish. This is particularly subversive and a big deal in Japan where, at the time of Lolita's development, there was tremendous pressure on women to dress modestly and present a practical, dependable image.

2. Within the UK, when the goth subculture arose, the men did dress androgynously but were not the only ones who faced backlash for their performance of femininity. Goth women, in a similar fashion, were associated with hyper feminine aesthetics considered sexually deviant and provocative like corsets and fishnets. It was scandalous for them to embrace their sexuality openly and in ways considered "scary" in their presentation. The goth scene was particularly associated with things like polyamory and BDSM and often cultivated spaces that empowered women to be sexual in ways that were not expected or accepted

3. I did not talk about the Bimbo movement which is an anti-intellectual feminist movement. I talked about an offshoot called Bimbocore which was coined by Scene Queen, an American pop metal musician. Her work is dominated by themes of violence against men and rampant sex between lesbians. Her music videos also frequently take the time to uplift disabled lesbians, lesbians of color, and other marginalized lesbians

All of the following are extreme performances of femininity that have faced backlash and caused discourse around what it means to be an acceptable feminine woman in society by undermining what is typically expected or accepted from hyper feminine women

Examples of subversive hyper femininity:

1. Lolita fashion in Japan: This form of dress specifically developed to resist the stifling pressure of Japanese society to grow up into a mature, reasonable, and picturesque woman

2. The emergence of Goth culture in the UK: Goth culture has caused various moral panics as it was considered sexually deviant due to its emphasis on hyper femininity and androgyny when it first emerged

Her songs frequently take advantage of pink hyperfeminine imagery like bras, Barbie, and thongs to spark controversy. She has an entire song about how to finger a woman and the music video spotlights the sexuality of disabled and Brown lesbians. I personally consider her body of work both hyper feminine and subversive. At a glance, the words Bimbocore can seem anti intellectual, but the creator itself is creating layered and sardonic music that requires you to engage with ideas of what it means to be both hyperfeminine and tongue in cheek advocate for violence against men

Addressing your tags as well, I am, believe it or not, a lesbian community organizer who dresses alternatively as well. Me providing examples countering your claim is not mansplaining femininity and subversive culture. It was literally just examples that came to my mind that are both hyperfeminine and counterculture

To say Lolita and Gothic fashion are not subversive is ahistorical. If anyone other than OP wants sources on the initial moral panics they caused as well as the ways in which they protested established social norms, I can dig some up since I do like doing archival work. On the other hand, a discussion on if Lolita and Gothic fashion are hyper feminine or feminine is a conversation that I'd be interested to hear differing takes on, since they are both extremely feminine from my perspective

I feel like you are not engaging in this discussion in good faith, so to anyone else who wants to discuss subversive feminine subcultures, this is what I have to offer, and I'm always happy to hear more about them or hear other beliefs regarding what it means to be hyperfeminine and/or subversive. I can also dig up sources and studies on all my claims for anyone interested in reading more, but I won't be doing that work for someone who doesn't actually care to listen and respond to me respectfully

All of the following are extreme performances of femininity that have faced backlash and caused discourse around what it means to be an acceptable feminine woman in society by undermining what is typically expected or accepted from hyper feminine women

Examples of subversive hyper femininity:

1. Lolita fashion in Japan: This form of dress specifically developed to resist the stifling pressure of Japanese society to grow up into a mature, reasonable, and picturesque woman

2. The emergence of Goth culture in the UK: Goth culture has caused various moral panics as it was considered sexually deviant due to its emphasis on hyper femininity and androgyny when it first emerged

To me, it’s just like when I go to an event that includes saying grace or a prayer. I’m an atheist and anti-theist. I could easily be openly disrespectful and flash a devil sign, or stick out my tongue, or make noise, but I don’t. I simply don’t bow my head, I don’t recite the prayer, and I don’t say “amen”. Might this hurt people around me? Of course! I’m sure there’s religious people who would be deeply offended to see somebody not engaging in group prayer. But that’s simply not my problem. It’s their problem to accept that not everybody believes what they do, and that nobody is required to play long to spare their feelings.

Most if not all trans people I know actually do have thick skins and don't even care when people misgender them. In fact, we don't care enough that it's not a big deal to call people out for purposefully using the wrong pronouns. It's easy to say, "Those aren't my pronouns," in the same way I might tell someone, "It's Tuesday today." Or I might say, "You're being rude," in the same way I might tell someone, "You're blocking the doorway."

If YOU are going to be rude, then YOU have to have a thick enough skin to stand it when someone calls you out for it.

"But I can call someone whatever I want!" Yes! You can! And they can call you rude and bigoted to your face about it, and we're all gonna have to tough it out when a person purposefully misgenders a trans person and the trans person calls them out for being a mean person

We are still legally classified as a mental disorder or psychosexual dysfunction in most countries. Aroace people have fought hard, partially successfully, to have asexuality removed from the DSM-V in 2013.

My sexuality, aegosexuality/autochorisexuality, was literally named and defined by a doctor who wrote about it and asexuality as a paraphilia, in 2012.

Aro/aces are at high risk of experiencing conversion therapy. We're 10% more likely to be offered or undergo such therapies compared to other sexual minorities, and around 48% aromatics reported having experienced attempts or suggestions to "fix" or "cure" them. This includes being pressured or even forced to take medication.

Aromatics are especially discriminated in mental healthcare because of all the above.

In some places non-consummation is a ground to annul marriage and/or is ruled as cruelty. Basically, if you don't have sex with your partner, in the eyes of law, you are being cruel to your husband/wife and you're at fault for the divorce.

Asexuals are significantly more sexually assaulted than homosexuals (but not bisexual).

Aro/aces are not protected by most anti-discrimination laws, because asexuality is seen as lack of sexuality and not a sexual orientation. Same goes for romantic attraction.

Aro/aces have secret codes/signals for showing other aro/aces their identity without needing to come out to others. We wear white and black rings on specific finger and hand, just like gays did with handkerchiefs and lesbians with carabiners.

There's almost no media that doesn't dehumanise people who don't feel romantic or sexual attraction. Those that do exist were made by aro/ace people.

Surveys show most allos don't understand what asexually is, even when they are confident in their definition. This leads to almost all of asexuals being told they aren't actually ace because of xyz by allos.

I agree that aro and ace oppression is institutional and systemic, but those systems are ALSO affecting other LGBT ppl and to speak as if they aren't is kind of not the solidarity we need with the rest of the queer ppl

I also have to clarify were talking about the IN REAL LIFE concept of soulmates people made, not the fanfic trope. This is important, thanks. Please don't vote based on the fanfic trope.

no one sits down and thinks of new ways to be arophobic—it's about societal norms and ideas that are socially ingrained in people about what is normal/healthy/valued/human that directly hurts aros. an invisible target is still a target.

by that metric, sure i don't think it's arophobic what people choose to believe about their OWN relationships, but the overarching belief that everyone has a destined other half that they are meant to be with, that "completes" them and is their truest love—which is what the concept of soulmates, historically, from the beginning, is about—IS amatonormative and therefore arophobic. and this is of course an oversimplification of something i have been discussing for an absurd number of years now.

As long as people do not enforce that I must have a soulmate, then I don't think they are being arophobic by believing in the existence of soulmates.

Meanwhile lost causes are failed by teachers who havent even read their papers. They aren't told about cool clubs or scholarships or given extra schooling to learn new skills because people don't even think they're worth it.

It does suck to get to college and realize being a gifted kid has ultimately made it difficult for me to do things like seek diagnoses or come clean to my family about my struggles (and also given me a mountain of anxiety). But I'm in COLLEGE. And I realize that's a privilege often reserved for gifted kids. Gifted kid syndrome is real but its not as simple as "this traumatized me."

Gifted kids have the privilege of finding out their limits after shooting for impossible goals. Its hard to be confronted with impossibility and to not know how or who to turn to for help. But they still end up collecting skills, knowledge, and connections in the process.

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