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What happened is that half of the sbk cast, Cleo, Sausage, Musithical and Avid's skin and art people just all revealed that they were a master manipulator who lied to multiple mcyt in order to isolate them. Who joined POW in order to destroy it (According to Cleo), made up lies about more popular mcyter to isolate the sbk cast from the rest of mcyt (According to Legs and Doovid) and according to Nukari gaslighted and manipulated people and then used relatable struggles such as being LGBTQ creators to avoid scrutiny.
I personally remember them having that break up with Scott and then Scott Drift Shelby and Cam being removed from sbk. Which fits exactly with the "made up lies about bigger youtubers to isolate the sbk players".
Then at vidcon all this youtuber started talking and those lies fell apart, screenshot were shared of Avid shit talking the other sbk players behind their backs to eachother and the truth was found out. Then Avid and Marm panicked and tried to run off the platform to escape the consequences which is why they quit.
Cleo basically said they were asses and that they quit in a "you can't fire me I quit" kinda way and that she's glad they are gone forever. In much the same way others have said that them using stress as an excuse is what they would use to lie and manipulate.
Water also said she's not going to be the same for a long time.
Cleo also said that they saw screenshot of Avid talking about how much he wished death on her friends and fellow cc's.
Thank you so much for this, I'm glad this has come to light and I'm Devastated to see Avidmc, one of my favorite content creators, to be revealed as such a bad person but I'm glad they'll no longer be a part of the MCYT community.
I don't want to talk about Avid and Marm, they're getting enough attention already. But can we just acknowledge how well the community is handling this situation? Like, this is probably the best and most mature reaction possible to what's been going on, and that's lowkey saved my faith in the mcyt community as a whole. (This got way longer than I intended, read more below)
On the CC's side, it seems like they all got together to figure out the truth and then handled everything privately before ever letting us know things were going down. Then when they did come out with statements and stories, they took the time to gather their thoughts and say everything the way it needed said. They've also been really good about getting permission to share screenshots and names before bringing things up as evidence. Despite all the distrust that's apparently been sown between them the last few months, they still had each others backs and presented a united front on the issue. That's a big deal actually. It's also nice to see how everyone has teamed up to raise support for their friends that lost their jobs from this whole mess. Every stream I was in today had people yelling not to sub to them, but support Musithical, Peeporp,and Box instead. Immediate action, no nonsense.
Everyone's also been very clear about how they want this situation handled going forward. Every statement I've heard/read has started with some variation of "Don't spread hate or harassment" and "I'll talk about this once and never again". The goal is to let people know what's happening, not start discourse. As Cleo said, "living without them is our reward". The problem has been handled, now it's best for everyone to put it behind and move on. They've also been extremely clear about how disrespecting people's identities is never an appropriate response and spreading hate isn't helpful to anyone. They could have turned the tables and started a smear campaign, kept digging this up for weeks to profit off the drama, but they aren't and I honestly respect that so much.
And not to give certain people too much (or any) credit, but at least they didn't double down and start trying to sway the viewers. I could speculate why, but whatever the reason, they totally could have turned this into an "I said, they said" back and forth drama to try and keep some of their fans, and I think we can at least appreciate that didn't happen. We've seen that before, especially in mcyt communities. Accusations are made, people get angry and defensive, lies and misinformation spread until no one knows which side is in the wrong. I'm just really glad we skipped that this time around.
I've also seen so many posts, both from fellow fans and CCs about not blaming ourselves for not knowing. There's been so much reassurance that none of us were bad people for liking and supporting past projects, or still caring about those stories. Everyone was lied to, that's not our fault. And everyone is making sure the blame is pointed at the right people. Not at fans for supporting them, not at friends who were lied to and manipulated, but at the people really at fault. Alternatively, something I haven't seen is people condemning other fans for not immediately deleting works or posts mentioning these people. Some people have been doing that, but i haven't seen many people saying that you should be doing that or you're a bad person, which I've seen before over far less. You're not a bad person for having loved something without knowing better. You're not doing anything wrong by still caring about something you've put time and effort into.
I've honestly just been so impressed by how well this has been handled. When I first heard about yet another scandal where a notable streamer gets kicked from a server, my gut reaction was to leave the community altogether, or at least avoid it entirely for a few months while the drama died down. (I can handle disappointment when a streamer turns out to be less than ideal, but there's only so many times I can trust someone to mean well only for them to turn around and be an utterly horrible person). I stuck around for the day just to hear the story and make my own judgement of the situation, and the conclusion? I think I actually love the community more. Legundo said on stream something like "this is the good ending to an awful situation" and... well I think he's right actually. The fallout could have been terrible and destroyed the community everyone's worked so hard to build. Instead, it looks like everyone's come together to try and heal, to grow stronger together moving forward. It sucks, but after everything the future looks optimistic, and that's the best possible outcome we could've gotten here.
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more things i think damian should do: steal several batmobiles and make them all fly, have a snake draped across his shoulders for fun, beat the ever living shit out of jason todd, get a third dragon, give himself a really bad tattoo, give himself a piercing that gets super infected, dye his hair and it looks super bad, make bruce seriously consider getting dentures, at least once kick slade wilson in the nuts, acquire yet another older sister.
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hello all. i just want to say, thank you so much for all the support. we have gotten a lot of questions about some things we will talk about eventually, a lot of donations and well wishes we want to slowly get through and send personal messages back on our Ko-fi, and a lot of new people here to show support.
i do not want this to be for nothing. we are moving forwards with renewed vigor for our craft and taking it not for the hurt that it was brought on from, but the passion we have always had for our craft and the love and trust we have built with the friends we hold dear. more music is coming. new collaborative projects are coming. i plan to speak with my moderators to make the Discord more of an engaging and hospitable space. we do not take this gift for granted.
As a reminder, most members of SBK & co are making these their final statements on the matter and will not be speaking of the situation or Avid and Marm going forward. Please do not bring up the situation to them again after today. Let everybody move on and heal.
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