SasuNaru

Listen here you fucking fucks. You’re about to read some 3 am hay-wired, naruto-binged ranting so buckle up and enjoy.

For people who call the SasuSaku fandom negative things for liking their otp is so disgusting. Who cares that people like FICTIONAL CHARACTERS WHO ARE MARRIED AND HAVE A CHILD. Obviously you guys are certified counsellors/sociologists or something because you got sooooo much to say about it. I for one (a fellow Naruto fan for 11 years) enjoy the canon. I know they were not the best couple to begin with but half of you fucking fucks probably never even had an actual relationship to begin with. I’m not promoting abuse in any form in general. But its a fUCKING STORY! (You guys must have fun with Disney movies!) • Yes there were times Sakura pissed me off for loving such dickwad who was hellbent on revenge and was a douche to her. • For those who complain about Sakura staying in love with Sasuke and she’s stupid for it; In Japan, women who fall in love with someone, they remain loyal to those that they fall in love with and can’t easily give up on them just like that. Hence why Sakura was giving Naruto advice about Hinata. (BTW. Kishimoto = Japanese. Not everything has to be fucking americanized, you ignorant fucks) • Kishimoto even said he loved her but blocked her out because he needed to avenge his clan. He realized he loved her this whole time after the final fight with Naruto. • No, Sasuke didn’t get away with everything by saying “sorry” to Sakura, he went on a journey of redemption. He obviously thought about how he hurt his comrades (AKA Sakura, Naruto and Kakashi) • “He doesn’t love her” ‘Scuse me, in the Sasuke saga novel, you can read that he only came back to Konoha because of Sakura. (And no, she did not fucking beg like you fuckheads say she was.) • Kishimoto said that the forehead poke was the ultimate expression of love. For those who state that its a “sibling” kind of relationship then why hasn’t he done it to Naruto???¿¿¿ • If Sasuke didn’t care for Sakura why did he try to save her when she was kidnapped in the novel? • He’s a mysterious character. Yes, I wish Kishi did a better job developing the couple but Kishi was horrible with the romantic parts of Naruto (hence why he didn’t lead “The Last”, only supervised) • Yes, Sasuke and Sakura were intimate. That is a fact. • Sasuke is not one for PDA. There are plenty of parents who don’t show affection to eachother in front of their children. (If you don’t believe that, then you’re ignorant.) It is even said that Sasuke is the less dominant one in the marriage because of Sakura’s character. So Sakura isn’t some housewife who doesnt do shit all. She fucking raised her child, even trained her daughter while her husband was off doing a long-term mission that could save his family and village. “What kind of good father does that????¿¿¿” what do soldiers do??? Leave their families to protect their country while their wives/husbands take care of things at home. • Sasuke isn’t good with talking about his feelings. How he interacted with his daughter at first is a fine example. • “Why was Sasuke smirking when he left? He had to be happy to leave!” K. First of all, like I stated before, Sasuke isn’t one for PDA. It was even stated that he’s more affectionate when they are alone. And he was fucking smirking because Sakura was being selfish asking for more affection after all the fucking sex they had when he came home for the night.

Now, if Sasusaku had developed like Naruhina, it would have been so much better. I agree with that part. But we aren’t going to get a movie. BUT. You can read the NOVELS that CLEARLY state their relationship.

Following this logic, the dissolution of a marriage wouldn’t exist. It is baffling to me. If respectful interactions with each other are so important, why don’t you show respect? That’s quite hypocritical and self-contradictory. It’s almost amusing how manipulative your rant is. There are many ways of discrediting a group of people. 

Calling them names, talking about their lies, showing them to be unworthy, telling them how unintelligent, crazy or otherwise undesirable, inferior and not worth listening to, let alone believing, they are. Besides using this logical fallacy called poisoning the well, you resort to sophistical tactics like appeal to spite. You basically portray your opponents as spiteful. 

Your argument is made through exploiting alleged bitterness. By discrediting the other person, you are also effectively discrediting anything they say by reducing their authority. You rely on personal attacks, rather than discussing the argument itself. This practice is fallacious because the personal character of an individual is logically irrelevant to the truth or falseness of the argument. Mind yourself. And now, I’m going to counter your arguments.

You: “It’s okay that Sakura stays in an unloving relationship because that’s a Japanese tradition.”

→ Appeal to tradition. You assume that this is okay because it’s traditional. However, it doesn’t make it better just because it’s a form of tradition. Firstly, people often prefer to stick with what is older or traditional for the mere fact that they feel more comfortable about what has been around longer. Secondly, sticking with things that are traditional is often easier. Hence, it results out of laziness.

Furthermore, you try to justify Kishimoto’s sexism by reducing this act to a sociocultural background. It’s okay since they do it in Japan, right? So it’s okay to be married to a person who obviously isn’t interested in you since it’s apparently part of Japanese culture, right? Ever heard of Harakiri? Harakiri is a form of Japanese ritual suicide by disembowelment. It was used by warriors to avoid falling into enemy hands, and to attenuate shame and avoid possible torture. Was that okay? After all, it was at one point part of the Japanese culture, you know.

You: “Kishimoto said Sasuke loves her, therefore, the ship is realistic.”

→ That’s not an argument. Authors are people like you and me, they can be wrong. That’s why retcons exist. If authors were perfect, retcons wouldn’t exist, but that’s—for a known fact—bullshit. Moreover, the intention of an author isn’t important. He said Sasuke loves Sakura? And now? 

Nevertheless, there is mainly negative development between Sasuke and Sakura. He didn’t manage to portray them positive together. With that said, it doesn’t matter what Kishimoto claimed. According to Roland Barthes, a French author, philosopher, and literary critic, the author has to be treated as dead. The authorial intent lost his original sense on the part of literary studies.

You: “Sasuke thought about the wrong things he did to his comrades while he was on the journey of redemption.”

→ You are wrong. You try to justify an unloving relationship by stating the issue is over since Sasuke invested alone some thought in his wrong doings. Even so, healthy relationships are based on trust and mutual respect. Each person must feel that they are valued and loved. This is the ideal foundation for a good relationship. To a degree, everybody is self-centred, but emotionally mature people generally recognise their wrong doings. 

They correct their behaviour, offer an apology, and begin again with a more loving approach to resolve the conflict. That’s important in a personal relationship—with your marriage or love, with your family members, and close friends. Both people must be committed, something that’s not present in SS. Sasuke is away from his home, and he doesn’t get in touch with his family. He is not committed.

You: “Sasuke loves Sakura because it was stated in a novel that he came back to Konoha for Sakura.”

→ Those novels are to the manga what the fillers are to the anime. Both aren’t created by Kishimoto, but based on what he provided through the manga. I don’t see any reason at all to treat them as fully canon, when we don’t do that for the filler, the movies or anything else that is not the manga. Further, it isn’t a proof of love that he wanted to protect her, it’s rather a proof of camaraderie.

Since I don’t know too much about the novels, I’m not sure about this, but I’ve heard that he came back because Naruto asked him to do so… Please make sure to provide sources when you make claims. 

You: “Kishimoto said that the forehead poke was the ultimate expression of love.”

→ Where is the source for that? I’ve heard that he didn’t make that statement, but someone else. Besides, the problem regarding retcons and authorial intent eventuates.

To quote @narusasu-prevails [ source ]: “I believe it to be a gesture of love but not romantic love, rather, brotherly love. It shows kindness and respect from his side, not romance. It’s not a kiss for god’s sake, it’s a forehead poke. He could give it to anyone to cheer them up so let’s not act as if it was a kiss. You could totally see him doing the same to say, Naruto, Karin, Boruto, Himawari even.

The forehead poke is actually a replacement to the knock on the back he once gave Sakura before leaving Konoha for good.

He no longer needs to do that so instead of knocking her out he surprised her with a forehead poke this time and said, ‘maybe next time.’

Maybe next time = I’m not leaving for good this time.

He then added, ‘Thanks’ which is in fact a polite rejection. ‘Thanks for caring’, ‘Thanks for asking’, ‘Thanks for forgiving me’, ‘Thanks for whatever, BUT no, you still can’t join me.’ This actually supports my theory about the poke being a replacement of the hit on the back from P1. Back then, he rejected her request, thanked her for trying/caring then left alone. This time he did something similar, he first rejected her request, then thanked her for trying/caring/whatever, then still left alone. The only difference is that this time he assured her that he isn’t leaving for good like before, but is going to visit. That’s what ‘Maybe next time’ implied.

I don’t think he actually planned to see her in particular. I think he was implying that he’s going to visit Konoha some other times and when he does he’ll see her since that’s where she lives. He won’t actually visit Konoha just to see her, he’ll only see here because he’s there and she’s there. Like I said, thats to reassure her that he’s not leaving them for good like before.

Now, if Sasuke was copying Itachi then there is no next time. What he did there was actually gently exclude her from his business. What he said earlier supports this since he actully told her that his path has nothing to do with her. (…)”

You: “It is not a sibling kind of relationship because he didn’t do it with Naruto.”  

→ Because Naruto’s and Sasuke’s bond isn’t brotherly. People tend to describe them as ‘friends’ for the very reason that homosexual subtext is often ignored and dismissed—precisely because people assume knowingly or unknowingly heteronormativity is the norm. Moments, some fans would observe as romantic if one of them was a girl, are completely rejected—or simply derided.

Not to forget that both of them declared each other as friends/best friends/brothers. Now, first of all, lovers can be (best) friends too. There are studies [ link ] out there which reveal how friends are actually the best lovers: “Having a strong friendship bond with your partner is the secret to having a long-lasting romantic relationship, scientists claim. Researchers found that lovers, who are also close friends, enjoy better sex, more love, and greater commitment. However, researcher found that people who are more interested in satisfying their personal needs and desires through their relationship are less likely to stay in a long-term relationship. (…)”

Other sources, which back up my claims, can be found here: [ A│B│C ]

Like I explained in my post [ link ], Naruto and Sasuke scrapped the notion through unreliable narration. In the beginning, Naruto says that their bond is similar to a brotherhood. Later on, he corrects this, and says that their bond is similar to a friendship. Especially Sasuke wants to know why Naruto is so determined to help him when they finally find the time to talk after all these years. Towards the end, Sasuke asks him the same question, and wants to know what Naruto meant when he said they are friends. Suddenly, Naruto isn’t sure anymore how to answer his question because the feelings he has for Sasuke are too great and deep. We, as the readers, can notice subtle changes. Are they brothers? Friends? Lovers? They aren’t brothers, Naruto denied this. And it can’t be a normal friendship, Sasuke questioned this, i.e. there is nothing wrong with assuming that their bond is romantic.

You: “Sasukes loves Sakura because he tried to save her in a novel when she was kidnapped.”

→ Again, the novels aren’t canon. Moreover, this isn’t a proof of love, it’s still more of a proof of camaraderie. By this logic, he must also be in love with Karin since he protected her from Killer Bee. Hm.

You: “Kishimoto isn’t good at romance, that’s why this ship is so horrible developed.”

→ You confirmed that SS is a negative developed ship. Interesting. By the way, I have to disagree with you (what a surprise!). Take a look at Naruto’s and Sasuke’s bond. B-)

You: “Sasuke and Sakura were intimate.”

→ No proof. It’s still written in the stars if Sarada is Sakura’s daughter [ link ], and it’s canon that they never kissed [ link ].

You: “There are plenty of parents who don’t show affection to each other in front of their children.”

→ Argument from silence. You base your conclusion on the absence of evidence, rather than the existence of evidences. :-) That’s no justification for Sasuke’s behaviour, and on top of this, you try to put lipstick on the pig by stating plenty of parents do this. So it makes it right because plenty of parents do it? Plenty of people vote for Trump. Doesn’t mean it’s an intelligent choice.

You: “Soldiers leave their families all the time alone. So it’s legitimate that Sasuke does it.”

→ No, it isn’t since Sasuke found the time to contact Naruto, whilst he couldn’t contact Sarada for over ten years. Shit happens. I guess.

You: “Sasuke isn’t good at expressing his feelings. That’s why he didn’t express his love in front of his daughter.”

→ Huh? 

Sure? 

You: “Sasuke smirked when he left!!!111 He had to be happy to leave!”

→ Completely taken out of context. Sasuke smirked because Sarade gave him something to eat in the form as a present.

Convince yourself: 

And pay attention to Sarada’s words. 

There you go.

“(…) First of all, like I stated before, Sasuke isn’t one for PDA. It was even stated that he’s more affectionate when they are alone. (…)”

→ Where?

“(…) And he was fucking smirking because Sakura was being selfish asking for more affection after all the fucking sex they had when he came home for the night. (…)”

→ Headcanon.

Seems legit.

“(…) You are entitled to your own opinion, just quit being fucking asshats to people’s otp. It’s a fucking story.”

→ Um… ironic? 

And Missy is also forgetting the part where Sakura even said she would chase after Sasuke even though he doesn’t want her to do so.

*laughs so hard laugh becomes silent*

The vast majority of antis are ItaSasu lovers, so if you came across some who bashed their relationship, you’ve come across a special bunch :)

But anyway Anon, if you ever come across anyone who claims that what Itachi did was “just for fun”, and that he never cared for Sasuke, just show them these panels:

Look at the unimaginable pain that Itachi is suffering through, as his parents hold no resentment towards him at all for what he is about to do. Rather, they are praising him for it, and are understanding of his actions. I’m sure that actually made it harder for him to go through with it:

And look at how Itachi, the perfect shinobi, is unable to hold back his tears here after mentally torturing his beloved brother. To think he never loved Sasuke is ludicrous:

I’m actually one of the people who agree with this theory. I’m not exactly saying he wanted them to get married, I’m just saying he defiantly didn’t plan this ending and he only planned to end it with Sasuke and Naruto, I have more than enough proves for this theory. I think Kishimoto wanted us to actually listen to one of the first lessons he thought us: “Look underneath the underneath.” 

First of all,Kishimoto had problems with the publishers, he had to actually struggle to put some of the scene he wanted in his own manga. one of those moments was when he wanted to put the male version of oiroke no jutsu on one of the chapters. As you can guess that scene was really problematic for SJ, Naruto said he was practicing that jutsu in secret even more than racengan…which means he was practicing a jutsu full of erotic, naked men trying to seduce others while he was alone, he actually had to do it daily in order to practice it more than racengan. This defiantly make people question his sexuality. In the end kishi won and he put it in the manga and it proved us that he did have problems with SJ but the interesting part is that they actually let us know that he was fighting for putting those scenes. Why was it so necessary to mention it? IMO, He wanted us to know about his problems with SJ.

Kishimoto had many interviews before and after the ending but when the ending came we realized his previous comments were not matching with actions. Let me give you some example:

1) In chapter 698, Sasuke was ready to die, he told Naruto that he was about to die but Naruto asked him to stay alive and help him with his cooperation. That was the only reason that he stayed alive but in chapter 699 he suddenly left because of REDEMPTION which had nothing to do with the cooperation, but this is not the strangest part. In an interview people asked him “What do you think about Sasuke? Good or a bad person?” And Kishimoto answered with:

“ Sasuke is basically a very pure person, he doesn’t think about what he does is good or bad.” BINGO! Then why does this PURE person suddenly needs REDEMPTION while he only lived for a cooperation? It’s more than obvious that Sasuke’s reason for leaving was something other than what he said and it defiantly seemed unplanned specially since the previous chapter was denying it.

2) In the the interview that came out right after 700 (you can find it here: http://www.saiyanisland.com/2014/11/kishimoto-sensei-speaks-after-narutos-finale/) He said many weird things. First when they asked him about his feelings he said: “Because I just completed the last episode less than 12 hours ago, I don’t have any real feelings.” oops! If he just completed it 12 hours ago, then why is there only sketches and panels of 699 on his table on those pictures they took? Where is 700?Is this why 700 didn’t look much like kishi’s style?

After that he said “I want to do something other than manga. Don’t worry, I will continue creating manga.” Ehhhh,what?He doesn’t want to make manga but he’ll make manga? Also, can you see how tired and uninterested he sounds? It’s like he doesn’t even know what he’s talking about!

3)He sometimes said that he planned the ending from the beginning but then he said it was all because of the popularity of the pairs and he never really planned it. In this interview when they asked him “ When did you decide how to end Naruto?” He answered: “ Since the work was first sterilized I have been determined to end the manga series with the battle between protagonist Naruto and Sasuke, who has been his rival since the start of the story. I latter decided on details, little by little, such as weather they would fight each other as friends or enemies, their feelings and dialogues, while I was drawing the series.”

So that’s what he planned from the beginning. There is actually another statement that proves 700 really was unexpected and uncommon. 5 weeks before the ending, we got a picture of Sasuke and Naruto. In the picture it said : “5 weeks until the shocking ending.” So now we have Kishimoto stating that what he always planned was Sasuke and Naruto’s fight and a statement that proves that even they agreed that 699-700 were shocking.

He even sometimes said many unnecessary things in his interviews that would give him nothing except some pissed off fans who would hate the canon pairs even more. For example, he said Neji died because of NH. Why would he say that? It’s not like Neji’s death actually helped NH in any way. Naruto didn’t even take her hand as a romantic gesture, he took it to give her chakra before doing the same with other shinobis. It just made many none-shippers hate NH because of Neji.

After the ending he helped with designs and story of ‘the last’ but I guess we can all agree that it was a poor written story based on guilt trip. Then he had a chance to have a 100% control on a story and he turned it into another sns story with kids(the Boruto movie). Except that he only worked on another mini manga (gaiden) that didn’t work on NH at all and made ss look worse by proving that most of anti arguments that were made before gaiden were correct. It also played a lot with sns, for example: In the beginning sarada asked sakura if Sasuke had glasses or not, she didn’t know but after a while when she was talking to Naruto, out of no where Naruto suddenly said “ Sasuke didn’t have glasses.” There were many coincidences like this in the gaiden that showed Sasuke and Naruto still cared,understand and listened to each other the most.

He didn’t agree to do anything more and that’s why his assistant agreed to do another manga about the new generations. Even when it came to designing the new generation, he gave baruto a look completely similar to Naruto’ while his cloths looked too much like charasuke’s clothes. He didn’t even give Naruto’s children byakugan! That’s how much he really cared about the canon pairs and the new generation. He did a poor job on writing and designing them and all he did was relating them to Sasuke and Naruto. He took every chance he had to say or draw things that could make the canon pairs look worse and make people hate those pairs even more.

The only thing that he kept pushing after the ending was Sasuke and Naruto’s bond. His whole manga was about them and he even stated it in the manga that their love was what destroyed sasuke’s hatred. The sage of the six paths literally said I hope this time love will be replaced with hatred.The kind of love different with the kind Sasuke received from his mother.“ Which proves their love was by no mean brotherly or platonically, it was a lot deeper. Even Kishimoto proved it by saying things like “Naruto liked Sakura, Sakura is in love with Sasuke and Sasuke has special feelings for Naruto .” or “Naruto and Sasuke progressed as a pair, so when I write about Naruto , I have to think about Sasuke. They are on opposite sides of the spectrum, like yin and yang."Even chapter 698 was enough to show everyone how much they really loved each other and what kind of love it really was.

Nah, it’s fine~ :3

Thanks so much! I’m so happy you like my blog~ :”> Sorry if it’s kind of late, but I tried to search for the stories with that in mind, and to be honest, I’m not fond of stories with Naruto hurting a lot so I hope this helped~

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Title: Dead Rising Fandom: Naruto | Call of Duty Author: Spyash2 Genre: Adventure Characters: Naruto | Tank | Takeo | Nikolai Summary:  Three years ago Naruto Uzumaki was marked as K.I.A by his superiors. Found in another dimension with little to no memory of his past or how he got there, Naruto was experimented by the organization who found him: Group 935. Several months after Naruto vanished, the Elemental Nations are invaded by an enemy that slowly adapts to their every move. Three years later… Naruto returns. [ No shounen-ai ]

Title: Kunai, Salt Bullets and Magic Fandom: Naruto | Supernatural Author: addamp53 Genre: Adventure Characters: Naruto | Sasuke | Sam | Dean Summary: Why should Naruto only throw a wrench in the plans of his own dimension? A Supernatural/Dresden Files mix universe. Naruto and Sasuke are thrown through the dimensional boundaries by a seal and meet Sam and Dean in Season 1. [ No shounen-ai ]

Title: The Thief and The Fighter Fandom: Naruto | Pokémon Author: Agurra of the Darkness Genre: Adventure | Friendship Characters: Naruto | Korrina Summary:  Friendships are often formed from the most unlikely of circumstances, with none being more unlikely than with these two, one born through rivalry and battle. [ Can be read as a Two-Shot ]  

Title: It’s an Odd Coincidence Fandom: Lord of the Rings | X-Men Author: Telcontar Rulz Genre: Adventure | Humour Characters: Aragorn | Logan Summary: AU. Logan ‘Wolverine’ Howlett finds himself in a very strange place. He tries to figure everything out, but he seems cause more problems than solve them. Will he be able to deal with it, and will he ever get home? A crossover between X-Men and LotR. [ No shounen-ai ]

Title: The Leviathan Fandom: Naruto | Harry Potter Author: ohdeariemegoodness Genre: Hurt/Comfort Characters: Naruto | Sasuke Summary: The fighting may be over, but there’s conflict no matter the era. Cliché Naruto and Sasuke guarding Hogwarts fic. Post-war on both fronts. Or, Naruto makes magic friends, stalks Sasuke, and complains increasingly loudly about the lack of ramen at Hogwarts. Sasuke…heals. [ SNS ]

Title: Then Loch Ness Came In And Ate Nick Fandom: Naruto | Grimm Author: ThatOne-K9 Genre: Supernatural | Adventure Characters: Naruto | Sasuke | Nick | Captain Renard Summary: Nick thought it was just going to be a regular case. But with two supposed ‘ninjas’ and a couple of Winchesters, the Grimm isn’t quite sure what he has gotten himself into. And since when was it his job to help save the world too? [ SNS ]

Have fun.

Oh you’ve come to the right person anon! I’ve certainly come across many amazing multi-chap SNS fics in my readings ( ◞･౪･) It’ll be a treat to share them with you! *takes a deep breath* Okay, here we go!

All That Glitters by scarylolita

Almost Sucks by Mashiro

Amatores by VioletWylde

Butterfly by Lotus Fantasy

Chasing Naruto by AkaiTsume

Fallen For Ramen by CapturedByNoodles 

Finding The Balance + Camping Extravaganza by MissMouse1241

God, it burns by Mako75

Healing the Broken by KizuKatana

Let It Snow by FastForward

Life Starts Now by NaruSasuNaruLover

Lights Out + All or Nothing byNaruSasuNaruLover

Lost on the Road of Life by shherie

Oh Sh t! by Akira-kun

Opposite Sides of the Tracks by KizuKatana

Renewing Changes by Fourangers

Roommates + Blood and Tears + Follow The Leader by FastForward

Save Me by dmnq8

SlackerxHacker by VioletWylde

Smile by Repeated Love Song

Soup’s On by OfFansAndFlames

The Chemicals Between Us by VioletWylde

The New Guy by SilverRose88

The Sound of Dreams by Zrina

The Thin Line Between Love and Hate by KizuKatana

Torrid by KageKitsune XXX

I find it hilarious that people only bring up this scene to make Narsas look bad. It’s funny because no one says narsas is a healthy relationship in real life. Yes, they fought a lot. Yes, Sasuke tried to kill Naruto but I guess some certain people are forgetting some stuffs. First of all, they are living in a ninja world in which they fight and kill all the fucking time. Second of all, Sas tried to kill many people including Naru but unlike Sakura ,Naruto had to be illuminated because he was precise to Sasuke and could bring him out of his hatred with his love. There was an actual reason for Sas behaving this way when it came to Naruto but when it came to  Sakura, he was about to kill her just because she was there, there was no real reason. Not to mention Sakura wanted to kill Sasuke too.  

Also, lets not forget that in shippuden Sas let  Sakura die or tried to kill her many times, more than many others. Remember when he let her fall into lava? Remember when they first met after three years and Sasuke hardly paid attention to her and almost killed her? Remember when madara took her and he hardly paid attention?  But when Naruto was unconscious right in front of his legs, easy to get killed, Sasuke never didn’t do it. Narsas had negative moments, they had but they also had development/actual care and love/ actual reasons for what they did. 

You know what’s more funny? People don’t say ss is unhealthy just because they tried to kill each other. Let me name some other reasons:

1) Sakura broke up with her friend Ino because of her crush as if Sasuke was always hers to grab and puh away anyone else who were after the said Uchiha.

2) Because Sakura didn’t  eve know abut how Sasuke felt and easily bad mouthed his lifestyle with out even knwing, and still claimed that she loved him.

3) Because Sasuke always tried to get away from her but she always kept trying to get too close to him and never stopped fangirling. 

4) Because Sasuke hardly ever complimented her (only once or twice in the whole series) and mostly always called her things like “annoying”. It wouldn’t feel this wrong if Sakura could shout back his rude comments too but she always just got sad and did nothing toward it.

5) Because Sakura had a selfish love. Me,me,me…”Don’t go because I’ll be hurt and lonely.”,  “Revenge won’t make you and ME happy.” “I love you and if you stay every day will be fun, We’ll definitely be happy so stay.” She thought taking revenge was wrong but was willing to help Sasuke do it just to make him stay with her. There was no “What i your reason for taking revenge sasuke?” or “ Do you even love me?” Sasuke actually stopped to listen to her, he tried to explain and waited to see if she could convince him to stay but all she said was taking about how it would hurt HER and her own feelings. I would leave if I were him too because she was too lost in her own feelings to think about how Sasuke was feeling. You can also call this guilt tripping. She was saying he had to stay or she’ll get hurt :/

6)Because Sakura always gave up whenever things got hard. After that night she just cried and told Naruto to save him, she didn’t try any harder, she just sent Naruto out there while SHE was the one who claimed she loved him.

7) Have I mentioned that Sasuke hardly gave any shits about her in shippuden unless it was time to kill?

8) And how she gave up on him without even trying to talk to him or see if the things some strangers told her were true or not. First she assumed Sasuke just changed so he had to be killed. Then she got there saw a horrible scene and that was all it took. What if it was an act? What if Sasuke was actually innocent? What if Sasuke actually had good reasons for doing what he was doing? (Which he had)

The problem isn’t the act of killing they are ninjas (and in Sasuke’s case, he was doing self defense)  but the problem is their reasons and the lack of belief in each other.Sasuke didn’t even hesitated to kill her while he didn’t need to kill her, he could just knock her out. 

9)And of course

did you know I just put 80% of ss moments here? Can we at least agree that Sasuke and Sakura mostly show their dark sides to each other whenever they are together? These scenes are all negative. The only normal or positive scenes for this ship are these:

(The funny part is that in this scene, sakura is crying but when sasuke wakes up he just says “Sakura you’re heavy, where is Naruto?”)

(oops sorry…not really positive, i know :) )

(sakura is still asking naruto to help…for god’s sake girl…you’re there too y’know?)

(just look at Sasuke’s face ,he has no idea what is going on. LMAO)

( lets not forget you people actually consider staring romantic..now I can see why. I can’t blame you,They hardly ever look at each other :) and also, lets not forget that forehead poke is actually a sign of putting distance between the people involve in it.) 

That’s it…That’s probably all ss has (unless I probably forgot a scene or two). there is no background, no selfless love, no love from Sasuke’s side, no equality, no reason for the love, no understanding…nothing. What is positive about this ship? If you want to really compare it to narsas, it’s a lost case for you mate because sns actually had many positive moment as well. The only thing it had was a compliment in p.1, sakura fangirling, sakura telling him his wrong only once or twice, an apology and…that’s it I guess. 

So if Naruto thinks that his love for food and his love for people are the same thing then why didn’t he used that before to explain his feelings? I mean, he does struggle at explaining them… Like, when Sasuke asked him, 

“What exactly do you mean when you say “friend”?“

Naruto should go,

"You remind me of my favorite dish. You remind me of big warm bowl of ramen, Sasuke. When I see you hurting I feel that my ramen isn’t perfect, that it’s missing something, maybe some seasoning or an ingredient. I just can’t tell but it’s not perfect!! And this makes me hurt so much that I just can’t eat you yet! I want to season you, warm you up a little, top you, fix you somehow so you’d taste perfect!! To me, you’re so mouthwatering Sasuke, I just wanna eat you! But I can’t do that until I’m done preparing you! I must sauce you! You must taste perfect so I could enjoy you! I’ll do anything to enjoy you to the fullest!!”

Sasuke not able to even say, “Shut it… Usuratonkachi.”. He’s goes, “!!!!!!!!!!”

Done, Sasuke is saved and is ready to serve.

You know, I was initially just gonna post my patented Saitama-as-Sakura “OK” picture because I couldn’t be asked to respond to such a misinformed view.

But then you said “Let’s just face facts :/”, which has provoked me into actually spending time in replying to this. I hope you’re happy.

So yeah, let’s talk about the facts for a moment.

The diversion scene didn’t prove that Sasuke didn’t care. That’s only what Sakura thought. If anything, it again proves how much Sasuke pays attention; He was the first one to actually do something when the situation turned sour, while Naruto and Kakashi remained dumbfounded:

Let’s talk about some more facts.

You’re mentioning the times Sakura had to be saved, as if you think Hinata has never needed saving. So allow me to remind you of a few things.

Hinata needed to be saved from Neji by the other Jounin present at the exam.

Hinata needed to be saved by Naruto during the war:

And Hinata spent essentially the entirety of The Last as a damsel in distress, needing to be saved time and time again. Which is made even worse by the fact that she was supposed to be the heroine of that movie.

Also, if you wanna get petty, Hinata tripped over a rock, and that just made her look silly beyond belief, and not very ”heroine” like:

Yeah, I can be petty too.

Let’s talk about some more facts.

You think Hinata could have avoided Madara’s Limbo by using her Byakugan and even landed a hit on him? Here is a fact for you: The Byakugan doesn’t have the ability to see into a different realm. That’s what Limbo is: Madara was projecting shadows of himself into a different realm, and only Sasuke was able to see it because of his Rinnegan, because it’s a Rinnegan induced technique. The Byakugan wouldn’t have done anything for anyone there, nor would it have aided Hinata in landing a blow on Madara.

Let’s talk about some more facts.

You actually think Hinata “weakened” Pain? Let’s go back and check shall we?

This was the start of their fight:

Hinata charges in, and she eats a Shinra Tensei:

And the battle’s over. Their “fight”, lasted all of 4 panels Anon, 4 panels. And you think she weakened him? Gracious.

Sasuke found his own answers because, even tho Itachi finally showed him the truth, he still couldn’t just follow his path blindly and that’s when he started asking questions. He wanted to make his own decision and not just follow Itachi’s way of the ninja. That’s why he went to those who knew all the answers he needed, i.e. the past hokages.

After his meeting with them, Sasuke made his own choice and became -like you said- his own man. And yes, I believe that’s when the good in him prevailed. I didn’t think he’d need any saving for, after that point, he has chosen to protect the village and not let Itachi’s effort go to waste.

As for Sasuke’s revolution:

It’s not just Sasuke who believed that the ninja world needed fixing, Hashirama, jiraiya and the current kages were also pro-change. They all agreed that the ninja world was ruled by hate and they all hoped for a change.

I’ll just post a reminder here:

Unlike those who only relayed on Naruto to bring a change, Sasuke decided to shoulder the burden of unifying the world alone. His intention was right (fix the ninja system) but his method was wrong (rule by becoming the darkness for eternity).

Now, I don’t see how that’s logical for someone who went through what Sasuke went through. Why would Sasuke want to rule by becoming the darkness instead of ruling by erasing the darkness? True, he admired Itachi for being a “true hokage”, i.e, for carrying the burden of executing a very unjust solution to prevent war, but he also knew what Itachi’s way brought to the world. It didn’t bring war but it didn’t prevent it either, it only delayed it. Likely for Itachi, Naruto never giving up on Sasuke actully made him change his resolve. Now, if Naruto wasn’t there, then Sasuke could have had started a war anytime he wanted. What stopped him was Naruto, not Itachi and not Konoha. Yes, Itachi had influence on him but he came after Sasuke already decided to focus on beating Naruto, not before.

Sasuke was in fact the victim of Itachi and Konoha’s way so he knew more than anyone else what choosing extreme methods (such as a massacre) could do to the world. (Temporary solution = temporary “peace” = false peace). Injustice methods will only bring more hatred to the world. Injustice is exactly what killed his entire clan and put his brother through hell, so why would he even think of following the same path? Has he learned nothing from the past? He’s the one who talked on and on about fixing the past mistakes and yet, he’s repeating them.

I think Kishimoto changed Sasuke’s resolve after having to go with a war arc and was faced with the problem of “What would Naruto and Sasuke fight each other for?” thanks to that. After he let Sasuke join the war, he actually let the good in him prevails. By doing so he actully erased the conflict (attacking Konoha) Naruto and Sasuke had before. Without a strong conflict, why would those fight to death? Rivalry isn’t enough, so.. what now?

I believe that he had to make Sasuke go extreme and aim at kill the beasts and the kages to create a strong conflict, but if you study Sasuke’s character, this wouldn’t really make sense because he doesn’t have to do any of that. The kages were already united, were already willing to work together to fix the past and he already had the powers to control the beast in case they refused to cooperate. They were all already extracted and were already cooperating with Naruto, so why even think about killing them!? Not only he trusted Naruto, be he also had him 100% by his side. They both shared the same goal everyone else share. After the war, all Sasuke needed is to stick by Naruto side, explain to him what they need to work on to bring a better future and just work together from there. There was no need for saving. That’s just something Kishimoto wanted to do for the longest time so he added one last plot twist -that tbh made no sense- to do that.

Sasuke was right about the darkness and the system and only needed to work on it. Everything was already in place for him to start a discussing things with everyone else. If Naruto is by his side, then even if the kages and the people refused to listen to a “criminal”, then they’ll still listen to Naruto, their beloved hero. No need for repeating Itachi’s and Konoha’s mistake, just do what Itachi expected you to do had he included you in his plans and use words instead of resorting to extreme measures without even fuckign trying. Avoid his mistake -which he made clear to you- and at least try to use a peaceful solution first. Don’t follow Konoha’s leads and used words before killing everybody. When faced with troubles, only then think about going with desperate measures. That’s what Sasuke would haven’t done anyway since he’s not the type to destroy life unnecessarily.

But Naruto has to be glorified, so.