im losing my mind @ the azula and zuko / luther and vanya post pls tell me more abt them akdhsjdj
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*taps mic* okay, welcome to my second ted talk on the luther and vanya dynamic. today weāre going to attempt to tackle a couple things but Iām going try and keep this as stream line as I can because I do have a lot of opinions. but if it gets rambly, sorry in advance.Ā Ā
letās start at the beginning shall we? you canāt talk about luther and vanya without discussing dear olā dad and the way he effected each of them. now, Iām not going to say diego through ben all had the exact same experience with him, but we can all agree luther and vanyaās experiences with him were decidedly different from the rest.Ā
where luther got the āgolden childā affection as a form of manipulation, vanya got isolation and willful neglect which was preserved as preferable treatment. both are valid forms of trauma. they just perform differently. everything about luther is meant to tower over his other siblings, and everything about vanya is meant to shrink her down and keep her small. (even look at the camera angles in season one versus season two with these two. itās all meant to emphasis this presence and physicality or lack there of.)Ā
heās number one, heās the leader, and in my opinion thatās on purpose. honestly if we look at the siblings? five much better fit reginaldās desires for an academy leader, heās decisive, heās efficient, lethal and logical. and in some cases (albeit only a few), he does manage to wrangle his siblings together in spite of their differences. so why not pick him? heās unpredictable. notice none of them are shocked at fiveās outburst at the dinner table in season one? outbursts are a huge no-no in reggieās book as weāve seen time and time again. but you know who isnāt prone to outburst (atleast not as a child anyway)? someone just as logical and just as capable? luther.Ā
you know who is so prone to outburst he literally puts her on medication to cut her off from her emotions at four? vanya, whose outbursts are also the most destructive with the least effort. and a thing to note about reginald is this man micromanages his childrenās lives in SUCH detail when they were young that he: only give them a very limited period a week of free time, ran tests on them while they slept and that instead of just letting vanya eat anything other than oatmeal: he just built a nanny that was impossible for her to get rid of. that is how important it was for these kids to obey. that is the type of person we are working with here.Ā
so these two are kept under his thumb in polar opposite and singular ways, and this? allowed them so see sides of him the others didnāt.Ā
luther talks about their dadās favorite spot, he got bits and pieces of affection, he got to know him more, he gets to sit on his right hand side at the dinner table because heās literally his right hand man and vanya in her othering and isolation from her siblings got to see him when heās observing on missions, she got to keep notes for him while he trained the others. vanya lives in a world where she is kept on the outside looking in and reginald never lets her forget it for a second. but in doing so, still tries to keep her in his peripheral vision. (and a part of me is kind of curious how luther took this, because we know the others took it as favoritism in a way but luther knows heās the favorite so....curious.)
and how does reginald repay both of them when they lash out? he ships them into the cruelest forms of time out possible. vanya with her locker/vault/chamber/cage and luther to the moon, luther thinks of the moon with the same sort of twisted affection that he views reginaldās treatment of him in my opinion. and upon rewatching itās not shocking that the second the white violin destroys her literal cage, her metaphoric cage of the house, and the people who aided in that pain that the last thing she destroys is lutherās cage as well.Ā
in the moment of her greatest rage, her total breakdown, she takes everything. not just her trauma touchstones but lutherās too.Ā
now, reggie deserves his own post one of these days but heās just the preface for these twoās dynamic as a whole. the foundation, if you will. but thereās a lot more here.Ā so, I want to talk about how luther views vanya in season one as a whole. and the short answer is: sheās irrelevant or at the very least that is how it comes off. the only time I can remember him actively addressing vanya is in the vote scene.Ā
In the vote scene, she had already attempted to stop a fight between diego and luther, and now they are both looking at her to pick a side. trying to seek her opinion on something for the first time and she understandably freezes. but luther looks at her like well??? as if he expects her to just agree before diego pops in with she doesnāt get a vote. in this scene, he doesnāt actually care about what vanya thinks, he just needs her vote to break a tie. and I think thatās the theme of vanya for luther in season one, she just doesnāt matter all that much until she does. like even when the gang is collectively says āhey weāre going to save vanyaā he says heāll pass until he knows allison is in danger. he doesnāt care enough to be openly hostile to her, he doesnāt care enough to worry. he just, isnāt interested, he mirrors reginaldās neglect in a lot of ways and that makes sense.Ā reginald set the bar for how to treat vanya, and they all took it on in their own way.Ā
and then the accident happens, allison a person he loves so dearly could have died at vanyaās hands. what he did was so wrong, and it was a betrayal to vanya and yes, she should get to be angry about that. she should get to be angry at all of them but thatās another topic. what we have to realize is that, luther is doing exactly what reginald would have wanted him to do in that situation. thatās not an excuse but to not recognize reginaldās influence in that feels like a disservice, we even have the direct visual parallel of the two standing in the same spot outside of the cage.Ā
there is understandably a lot of damage between them in at the end of season one, and while I donāt think everything was solved in season two between them. I think they took a lot of steps in the right direction. while i am a little irked, about luther bringing a gun to meet vanya. once he actually sees her smile wide at him, he does apologize, he does take responsibility (and this isnāt the last time he does it) and he is willing to let her go if thatās what she wants.Ā
itās not what she wants though.
reginald calls vanya out on not really wanting to remember, and honestly? I donāt blame her? I play it that her memory was foggy due to the fall and getting hit by the car, but as she starts to dig she doesnāt like what she starts to find so she just...keeps it locked up. and why wouldnāt she?
in season two without the burden of her memories she gets to talk to luther. she gets to take care of him, she gets to sit as his bedside and clean his wounds after a fight. and when he asks why? she just gets to say because heās her brother. itās simple. itās so easy.Ā
this is a family of people who love each other imperfectly. broken puzzle pieces trying to fight together again without getting caught on each otherās rough edges. and itās hard, but one of the big lessons of season one was:
some things just take time, some things stay broken.Ā
in my opinion a lot of season one was about the ladder, but season two? itās all about the former. with her memory back I feel like thereās going to be some sticking points between them, moments where itās going to be awkward and uneasy. (I personally hc that vanya is kind of uncomfortable with touch between them for a while) but the cards are on the table. luther has shown heās actively making changes to try and redeem himself from those actions. and they have so much potential for such an amazing arch, where they they can both fully grasp the places they were slotted into by reginald. I think the pieces are already starting to form with just how much luther stood up for her in season two, but I think it wasĀ a little too easy and I think with her memories back they have to regress a little in some areas to gain more forward motion.
coming to terms with your sibling locking you in a cage and attempting to kill you is, difficult to say the leastĀ no matter the intent. thatās really heavy, and adding in the fact leonard predicted it would happen is salt in the already deep wound. but the ladder is something he shares with every sibling except allison. which is whyĀ the zuko and azula comparison is perfect, because at the core of it all: zuko loves azula, and vanya loves luther.
this post is so lengthy already so Iāll leave you with two points:
in season one vanya tells leonard, upset and exasperated that she wants her siblings to be proud of her and standing in the barn at the end of season two as they smile down at her and she smiles up at them? there is no doubt that they are.Ā
you donāt have to forgive luther, but you do have to acknowledge that vanya wants too. that for the first time in her life she doesnāt want to do this alone, she doesnāt want to do it without her family, and that includes luther.Ā