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I mean, Silver is a human(!!!), but he's also adopted by Lilia (someone Baur respects a lot) and Sebek's only friend

If I'm not mistaken, Baur knows how Knight of Dawn looked like, so what did he think when realized Silver looks suspiciously KoD-shaped?

granted, things got pretty wacky when they were escaping the castle, he might not have actually processed what Dawnathon's face looked like! although I guess it is the kind of thing that sticks with you through the centuries, and if anyone was gonna notice...

(continuing my "old Bauru looks exactly the same but with a BIG mustache" agenda)

alternatively, he's gotten a lot better, but his daughter is still working with him on...certain things involving humans.

For a bit of context: in Greek mythology Triton is the son of Poseidon who of course is the middle brother of Zeus and Hades. Taking in the fact that Ariel and her sisters are Triton's children that would make them cousins (removed once or twice though) with Hercules and any children Hades had.

It's also heavily insinuated that Idia is a descendant of Hades (if the flaming head of hair didn't give it away enough). With Rielle being a part of the royal family it's almost a given that he descends from Triton even if it's not directly from Ariel. Perhaps one of her sisters who took the throne after the death of their father.

Either way it's hilarious to imagine Rielle and Idia as cousins (it's way too distant now obviously) because Idia is so obviously an introvert in every possible way while Rielle is the complete opposite. I do hope at some point we get to see them interact because it'd be super funny.

Oh, these theories 🤔 I thought they were popular in Disney fandom circles, so they’d spill over and touch the Twst fandom eventually.

I don’t think Idia is a descendant of Hades. He never speaks about Hades as though the guy were an ancestor. Additionally, it’s implied that Idia’s flaming hair is the result of his family’s bloodline curse, seeing as Ortho suggests that Grim’s similar flames may be indicative of how a curse manifests “like how it is for [Idia]”.

I know that Twsties have suggested that Idia is part merman (due to Styx HQ being located in the ocean + his strange mix of physical features), which by itself I’m not entirely convinced by. For related readings:

Strange traits as a manifestation of his bloodline curse

Is Idia non-human and/or mixed? / part 2

Is Idia a demigod?

While the idea of Triton being descended from Poseidon is true for irl Greek mythos, the connection is more dubious in the Disney (and thus Twst) canon, especially considering how inaccurate the Disney films are. Doesn’t mean we can’t still play around with the idea though! I like to imagine the introverted Idia shrinking into himself at large, lavish extended family gatherings myself. Typically, that comprises of various aunties and uncles twisted from the Olympians, but there’s no reason why the annoying cousins can’t join in on the fun.

In a universe where Idia and Rielle are related, I like to think Idia steers clear of him 🧍‍♂️ knowing Rielle as the chatty and overly curious airhead cousin. But Rielle can’t help wondering what sort of person Idia is!! He’s always hiding and doesn’t speak much, so Rielle wants to meet that forlorn stranger and make that connection. Idia would rather die What luck that they’ll run into each other at the competition between their schools/j

i really liked that you mentioned that the yuus of each book are meant to be foils of each overblotter and i think the writing team really cooked when they decided on that direction for yuu ^^

which leads me to a little idea thats been growing in my mind since i started reading book 6. what if similar to idia, b6's yuu was an elder sibling and unlike the other yuus theyre absolute wuss. full on scaredy cat and overthinker (not so much a foil but just hear me out) but for those that they love, theyre willing to ace despite of the fears and doubts that they face which i think would be a good contrast to idia whos long resigned to his fate because he thinks he cant change anything.

i want a meek yuu similar to yuuya so bad,,, someone whos scared shitless with the odds painfully against them but still tries nonetheless even if it wouldnt amount to anything esp with their lack of magical abilities,, it would be a pretty nice contrast to the already previous more "solid" yuus who all have big dreams or bright personalities. that small difference between yuu and idia despite their similar personalities would make a really really nice contrast and maybe even impactful for idia since theyre that similar

[ My thoughts on manga!Yuus for books 5, 6, and 7 | More on book 5 manga!Yuu thoughts | Book 5 manga!Yuu as a theatre tech kid? ]

adkhlbag8yowrwqba I could be doing better, but I'm doing my best to hang in there!!

A lot of people like the manga!Yuus for the diversity they're able to offer that the plain in-game Yuu doesn't. It helps to sell that idea that "Yuu" is "you" and therefore can be anyone.

Mmm... I think having a scaredy cat Yuu might be a little too similar to Yuuya. It would be fine if Twst had the time to differentiate them, but since every manga Yuu is only around for one book and isn't allowed a whole character arc or to change much, I don't think this would be a good way to go. Previous manga!Yuus haven't felt similar to their respective OB boy's personalities either, so I think it's more likely our book 6 Yuu will be someone unlike Idia personality-wise.

I've suggested the ideas of book 6's manga!Yuu being an older sibling that is better coping with the loss of a younger sibling + a hopeful, heroic manga!Yuu to contrast Idia being resigned to his fate before too; please see the first post linked above.

You know how Floyd nicknamed Riddle “Goldfish”/“Goldfishy”? And how this nickname was selected for Riddle because he’s “tiny and red”???

WELL.

I would like to propose my crackpot theory to add onto that☝️🤓

***WARNING: Please be advised that there will be mentions of animal abuse and animal cruelty below the cut.***

Quick correction: it’s NOT 10% of Twisted Wonderland’s general population that have magic, it’s a statistic specifically describing the human population. Fae therefore do not count in this calculation. Humans appear to make up the majority of the population anyway.

This is the current list of story events which take place outside of Sage's Island (note that the majority of events do take place on Sage's Island, so we're excluding like 20ish events from this list):

A Firelit Sky - no magic is involved; they rely on tech for fireworks.

Harveston Sledathon - magic is used by participants to pull their sleds.

Glorious Masquerade - there is a smaller magic school in this area, so of course there would be more magic here; it seems like the local population has non-mages that can join in the festivities using already enchanted instruments that let out magic sparkles.

Cloudcalling on the Savanna/Tamashina Mina - no magic is allowed in the wrestling.

White Rabbit Fest - magic may be a part of the Rabbit Run race, but it’s not entirely clear since some elements could be clever traps or just the Queendom’s strange flora at work. Deuce does cast magic, but the local bullies do not seem to be capable of it.

LitB with Stitch - not counting this one since this is a completely different universe.

Stage in Playful Land - Fellow has very little magic (which is true of most people in that 10% to begin with), but apparently the park was constructed with the help of some powerful mages.

Vil's Red Carpet Cadets/Tapis Rouge - some stylists at a high-end boutique use magic to help their clientele.

LitB with Nightmare Before Christmas (1 and 2) - not counting these since this is a completely different universe.

Eternity Float - no magic used by locals; only the NRC boys use their magic to terrorize the bride and groom (mages are not required for an Eternity Float)

Within these stipulations, the off-island events still have a majority (7ish out of 10) which don’t involve the locals using magic in significant ways.

Most of the major annual events and holidays don't technically require magic for celebrating either. There's some events that require magic, like the interscholastic tournament and magic competitions, but these are associated with more magically-inclined groups (ie arcane academy students and fae) instead of the general population.

It’s true that there are some occupations locked behind magic (like medical mages and magic marshals), but these industries have never been described to be particularly huge. These are probably highly specialized jobs with few that can perform them. Assuming that Twst’s world population is similar to that of our world, 10% of that would still be hundreds of millions of people. There would be plenty to occupy the specialized magic industries.

The only ones that won't come out looking like a drown rat would be Vil and Kalim. Kalim would be the only one that thinks it be fun.

Who be dunk the most, it might be a mixed of Riddle, Leona, and Azul. Leona would taunt thoses that couldn't throw. The tweels would dunk Azul until there is a limit put on thoses that can play. We all know why Riddle and Azul would by the main story.

Who would you or Raven would try to dunk?

Kalim splashes around in the dunk tank like he's swimming while Vil does a stylish hair flip that looks straight out of a hair product commercial 😭 I think Azul would also be pretty comfortable in the water, given he's a merman.

I definitely feel like a lot of students would gunning after Riddle (for being so strict) and Azul (for scamming them; the twins themselves would take turns dunking him for funsies). Leona, Kalim, Vil, and Malleus are generally liked (at least within their own dorms or with certain groups), so they'd be pretty safe unless someone who particularly hates their guts comes along. Idia is... trying to make himself as small as possible to not get targeted. (See this post for dorm leader popularity, and this post for general dorm sentiments about their dorm leaders.)

Riddle: He knows what he's in for, so he's cool with being dunked... the first few times. The third time Ace comes back to dunk him, he's starting to get PISSED. Has to remind himself that the rules of the dunk tank allow people to dunk as many times as they want. Ace is having a blast.

Leona: One of the dorm leaders to get dunked the least. He looks like he's asleep on the dunking platform, but every time someone comes by to try and dunk him, he opens one eye and gives them the worst glare known to man and they back off. He's eventually dunked by Rook, who waxes poetic about a lion in a watering hole or something while Ruggie laughs his ass off.

Azul: Floyd dunks him twelve times in a row, then meanders off to do something else. Jade stands off to one side and offers helpful throwing tips to people trying to dunk Azul. Azul does not like the experience of being dunked, but is also angling some way to get profit out of this.

Kalim: Having a blast! He loves bobbing around in the dunk tank and the feeling of falling! His tank's a party! Very encouraging to the people in line who are trying to dunk him. Wants Jamil to join in, but Jamil is too stressed trying to manage the towels for Kalim and hoping he doesn't get a cold from this.

Vil: Not thrilled about this, but he knows the rules of the game and he's willing to play. Wears his best, most waterproof makeup. He needs a break every thirty minutes, though, to do some skincare. Getting dunked in pool water a bunch is not good for you.

Idia: He tinkered with the booth the night before so it would take an inhuman amount of strength to actually dunk him. He's super proud of this, but Ortho figures it out pretty quickly and removes it. Gets dunked several times because people want to see if his hair will go out. It doesn't.

Do you ever think about how much you and Grim love one another? Do you ever think about how you go literally to the pits of what's essentially hell to save your furry companion? How in at this point you and Grim have grown so close that there's no hesitation to do this? To face the underworld if it means getting Grim back?