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*throws zutara at you*
*disappears for another 100000000 years*
if kataang kissing couldn’t convince 14 yo me to ship them back then, then kataang kissing or fucking or having a whole ass family still won’t convince me now……u guys could make a thousand hate posts or hit tweets or mean comments, i still couldn’t Give A Singular Fuck…….like what’s not clicking girl
There was an opportunity to make a pro-Zutara meme out of material completely unrelated to ATLA, and I took it gleefully!
The anti zutara argument of zutara shippers only liking zk because they self insert onto katara always pmo cause bry/ke shamelessly and obviously self insert onto @/ang but all of a sudden that doesn't matter to them 😒
And even IF zutara shippers only shipped it for that reason, 1) who gives a damn! Do whatever the hell you want (outside of harassing/harming people)! That's what fandom is FOR! and 2) that doesn't make zutara any less of a valid ship NOR does it cancel out the canon evidence that backs it up.

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I lost track of the original post, but someone on Reddit pointed out that the “sweetie” (🤢) pet name Katara uses for Aang in the comics is in fact the same her mother Kya called her! Interesting observation…..
What if I said the sudden hate and vitriol towards zutara in recent years is linked to the rise in conservatism… stay with me now… I can’t help but notice it because of the arguments I see such as “Water Tribe & Fire Nation can never be together… it’s way better that Mai & Zuko are married as they are both Fire Nation” or “It’s fine that Katara is a stay at home mom & healer… it doesn’t matter that she doesn’t play a pivotal role, go on to do anything great after the war…”
i just like how when Zuko saves Katara from being smashed from a rock , like he goes DIRECTLY for katara and suki just steps back. and they were standing next to each other , i hope im not the only one who sees this.
explain that bryke. . .
'if aang actually mastered the avatar state with guru pathik, zk shippers would hate him for abandoning katara!'
no i wouldn't. you want to know why? the show doesn't make it clear how long it would take for aang to open his final chakra and also have time to book it to ba sing se. if he could've unlocked it in the next ten minutes, i don't see a problem with him unlocking it. in fact, i was rooting for aang to master the avatar state because it's his duty to the world and by extension, TO THE PERSON WHO HAS BEEN ROUTINELY CALMING HIM DOWN EVERY TIME HE GOES INTO THE AVATAR STATE OUT OF EMOTION
even if it took him a day to unlock the final chakra, katara probably would've figured out a way to get out of the caverns lol. toph was already booking it back to ba sing se, all she needed was for sokka to find her since he had appa. the only other thing is that toph would need to know that katara was captured and imprisoned, but i think she and sokka could've figured that out. katara can rescue herself, she doesn't need to be damseled by the narrative whenever it's time to push kataa/ng
like i as a katara fan first and foremost don't want to see my favorite character have to calm down someone that's supposed to be her love interest out of an elemental tantrum. if you wanted me to ship kataa/ng, then you should've had aang doing everything he could to master the avatar state
oh, and if we don't have EIP have 'if my chakra wasn't blocked, i'd probably be in the avatar state right now!' line said to the one person who always pulled him out of the avatar state, i would be much more lukewarm to the pair. (see how i can extrapolate that this relationship can go bad for katara?)
anyways. me seeing aang refuse to do his job made me want to say 'no romance for you until you turn 25!'
edit to add: i'm not marking this as anti aang because i get why the writers did this empire strikes back tribute (and also parallels with zuko's betrayal) and it would totally make sense on a watsonian level that a 12 year old would be this impulsive, and i don't hate book 1-2 aang except to maybe be like 'this pattern here should've been corrected, but book 3 decided to turn him into an asshole'

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I know Avatar the last bender is a fantasy marital arts show for kids and I'm being slightly pedantic, but looking back at the show with the eyes of an adult makes realize how abysmal Aang and Katara's relationship is, Aang is like straight up a baby and Katara is 14, but she feels like she should be much older, like about 16, nevertheless that any kind of "romantic relationship" between a fucking 12 year old and a 14 year old is predestined to fail after about the first month. Though, I don't ship kataraang, the ship and the show probably would've fared better having the cast being older teens to early twenties. Like deadass forget Azula supposed to be only 14 years old.
zutara and taang r so perfect……..the narrative symbolisms and the mirroring arcs…….the yin and yang of it all……..sun and moon……..land and sky……..fire and water……….earth and air………….aang dreaming of toph before he met her (Hello)………….zuko being the one to pick up katara’s betrothal necklace…………possibly past incarnations/lives as lovers (avatar kuruk and ummi w toph and aang; oma and shu w katara and zuko)………it’s like poetry and mythology all at once………they r so beautiful to me
zuko’s heart burning the brightest when he protected katara……………which could mean nothing ofcourse
Disclaimer: I'm a rabid Zuko stan, he is my favorite character next to Katara. Okay, now that that's out of the way;
So you're telling me that Mai saved all of them, Zuko saw this happen, definitely knew what the consequences would be, and indeed Azula was going to straight up KILL Mai before Ty Lee paralyzed her, we know this because she got into the pose for summoning lightning, but he seems to not even think about her again until that one part of the final episode where she shows up to the palace for his coronation (how did she get in there?).
"Mai! You're okay! They let you out of prison?" BITCH WHO IS "THEY"???? HE IS THE FUCKING FIRE LORD!!!! HE IS THEY!!!!!!! WHO WROTE THIS??????
I'm supposed to buy that he is in love with her when he didn't seem worried about her a single time after she sacrificed herself for them all and then apparently also didn't think of her when they won the war? Didn't think to say "Hey! My girlfriend Mai, someone needs to find out what happened to her and where she is and report back to me immediately! I need to know if she's okay!" and then immediately have her released? Her uncle had to pull some strings???? Not Zuko, who is the Fire Lord, but her uncle the warden?????? And yeah I know he wasn't crowned yet but that's more of a ceremonial thing, he still had the authority.
And yeah I know Zuko had a lot on his plate but this is the girl he's supposed to be IN LOVE WITH, she should be one of his first concerns if you want people to believe he's in love with her.
I'm supposed to think the girl he literally tried to DIE for is just a friend and he feels nothing for her but the girl he is allegedly IN LOVE WITH he basically just left behind to die. He was willing to die for Katara, but was willing to put his concern for Mai's life and wellbeing aside for the sake of the mission.
Obviously, from a doylist perspective I don't think this is what the writers intended, but from a watsonian one, this is the conclusion we are led to.
He chose Katara's life over the mission, over his own life, but he chose the mission and his own life over Mai's life.
And I'm supposed to think he was in love with Mai and felt nothing for Katara.
Bryke you are MORONS.

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Zuko and Katara have so much chemistry that they didn't even interact once in the ATLA movie. I THINK IVE JUST SEEN THE ONE SS OF ZUKO SMILING AT KATARA BUT THAT'S LIKE... IT??? IDK IM JUST KINDA PISSED AT THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THE MOVIE FOR NOT HAVING THEM INTERACT AND ALSO LIKE THE FUCKING POWER OF THIS SHIP
Hot take: Aang hate is forced atp
Some of yall talk about a kid like he's the devil or sum
I actually don't see the screenshot saying Aang's the devil.
What I see is:
1) Implying he will go into the Avatar State if a girl doesn't return his affections (already implied by the show)
2) Implying that he values Katara as only a potential girlfriend and not as a friend (already implied by the show)
Disclaimer: this is long, badly explained, and I repeat myself. If something comes off as agressive, please tell me, this was not my intention.
"If I hadn't blocked my chakra, I'd probably be in the Avatar State right now!"
Out of context, it could sound like Aang is upset about Katara and that he's saying he'd enter the Avatar State if a girl doesn't return his feelings. The problem is that in context, it's more than that.
First, in The Ember Players episode, Aang was already upset with the play before the whole "the Avatar?, he's like a brother to me" scene, because he disliked the way he was portrayed. But then, in addition the play also brings up his uncertainty about Katara's feelings, so he leaves. What I mean to say here it's that his response to Katara with the "I'd probably be in the avatar state" it's not just because the play implies that his feelings are unrequited.
If someone wants to argue the line is awkward or that the writers shouldn't have put it like that, that's fair criticism, not saying the oposite.
"We kissed at the invasion, and I thought we were gonna be together."
You say that it would imply that Aang only values Katara as a potential girlfriend.
But for me, it shows that: Aang has romantic feelings for Katara, he wished that the Invasion kiss could mean they were moving toward a relationship, and he wants clarification because he's confused.
But none of that inherently means he doesn't value her friendship. Aang having feelings for Katara doesn't automatically means that he can't consider her a friend, platonic love and romantic love can coexist.
You can absolutely criticize the way Aang handles the conversation in that episode, (especially the kiss at the end when Katara told her she was confused) That's a valid and common criticism, even among people who like Aang. But "he wants clarification about their romantic status" and "he only sees her as a potential girlfriend" are two completely different claims.
But more importantly
My post was about people who constantly villainize Aang, and I accompanied it with an image of someone saying that Aang is a 'nice guy', which implies that his kindness isn't sincere and that his behavior towards Katara has just ulterior motives.
Aang does have flaws, but saying that he's secretly a "nice guy? For me a "nice guy" refers to someone who fakes kindness (to girls most of the time) just in hope to have a romantic relationship with a girl. It's someone who believes kindness entitles him to romance and only acts this way to people he considers potential partners.
But Aang is a sincerely kind character, he sees good in people, even showing empathy to enemies, which can become a character flaw.
He does gets frustrated, insecure at times, and handles some situations poorly and I don't say people can't criticize him, but my point was that there are people who interpret all his mistakes in the worst way possible and conclude that he'sa bad person.
Again, this is a fandom, so people should have the right to criticize the characters of pieces of media. But I feel like Aang gets a lot of hate for a lot less then other characters, like the same standards are not applied to him. His flaws are exaggerated and then presented as his sole character instead of being just a part of his character.
That's why I made the og post. And my comment "Some of yall talk about a kid like he's the devil or sum" was not meant to come off as a way to excuse all his actions and errors because he's a kid. It wasn't meant to argue that Aang is a flawless character, it was more of a sort of vent post because i don't understand why some fandom interpretations portray Aang in a such negative way, with takes that are like "Aang is a 'nice guy' who only sees Katara as a prize." or the "Aang just used Katara to have children"
I think it's good that you've changed your tune, but your original post did NOT come across as a reasonable counter argument and did not get across that you think people are allowed to critique Aang, it came across as a hate post. You screenshot a post that made a valid critique and then stated that that person was saying Aang was the devil.
I also will push back against your arguments because Katara not returning his feelings WAS a huge part of why he hated the play. Throughout it, he reacts angrily whenever the play implies that Katara does not love him, not just in one scene, and nods when the Zuko actor says that Katara is "the Avatar's girl." That definitely implies the entitlement you've described above associated with the Nice Guy.
It's also wrong to say Nice Guys are faking being nice and therefore Aang can't be one. A lot of guys like this actually believe they are genuinely being nice and that is what makes them believe they deserve a girl's love. While it is true that this behavior is anything but nice, it is counter productive to focus on how nice the guy is, because the point is that niceness does not earn you access to a woman's body, and as we established, Aang DOES think that Katara should be his. Aang DOES nod at the statement that Katara is "the Avatar's girl." Aang DOES get angry when the play implies that he is happy with being just friends with Katara. Aang DOES demand to know when Katara will be his girlfriend and kisses her without her consent when she does not give him the answer he wants.
So I think the screenshot is pretty accurate, and behavior like this deserves to be criticized. Aang may believe he is genuinely a nice guy, but he doesn't really value Katara's friendship and his behavior hurts her when she doesn't become his girlfriend because he wants her to.
Think about this from Katara's perspective. A guy that you thought was your friend makes it clear to you that your friendship is not enough for him and interrogates you asking why you aren't his girlfriend, and blames you for the things an oversexed actress onstage does. Then your friend kisses you without your consent and violates your stated boundary. Doesn't seem very nice, does it?
It's also not very nice to make hate posts about zutara shippers, screenshot their posts, say that their opinions are forced and that they're calling a character the devil, and then say that your "intention" was not to come off as aggressive. Yes it was. You just thought it was okay to dehumanize and attack people for criticizing a fictional character.