Yeah Becky is “fandom stand in” but Becky is also a writer, remember? So it really was us/writers against Chuck/network. They’ve been working off that forever. Sheesh—they kept showing us endings snd timelines where Cas didn’t exist and it was horrible. The writers/Becky said the ending would be bad. They litcherally been telling us to brace ourselves to 1520 while also giving us the narrative that D/C IS real and it IS the thing that’ll “bring down the network” and yaddayaddayadda you see what I’m saying. I think, personally, network told Dabb what elements fi include from the very beginning (hence J going “I didn’t really like it” from the beginning) and therefore they spent the whole season plotting to take down the network by giving us clues like “writing is writing” “this is awful what did you do to Dean what did you do to Sam there’s no Cas” “We are (real)” “You never did what you were told” and then Cas’ whole speech before he left about how Dean wasn’t essentially what the Network thought he was or tried to make him—giving us that reminder in stark contrast to 1520 so it DID feel off and disjointed and that the character has regressed. Writers basically telling us: Yeah fandom influence but it was good, D/C is real, they don’t deserve this ending (they bring all three characters). The ending was so bad because it flipped on everything that’s been prevented to us and one or two or even theee mistakes I’ll buy as just bad judgement but ALL OF IT? Then you got El Sol beer and the main character saying it tastes bad? Monsters that silence you? Bromonent that didn’t match other bro moments and that IRL it would have been fine but since they’ve never done that kind of intimacy before it was very VERY clearly not meant for them? And I Love You not to the person who had just said it teo epjsodes ago?
etc etc etc what a meta of a season.
And Chuck made Becky disappear.. i just hope that she’s still out there giving hell like we are :)
Dean’s speech to Sam reminds me of when GoT fans pointed out that Dany’s speech to Jon sounded like they took a speech that Cersei could make to Jaime and repurposed it for an entirely different dynamic and that’s why it made no sense.
NO BUT LISTEN I’VE BEEN TRYING TO PUT THIS INTO WORDS FOR WEEKS IT GOES DEEPER THAN THAT
There is a fundamental misunderstanding on what Becky represents. She is not just “the fans”, she is specifically a fan from the Kripke era. She is not like Marie, a modern spn fan who’s too young to represent anyone who would’ve watched spn when it first came out.
Becky is a fangirl from the Kripke era through and through: winc*st shipper turned heller, con organizer. Her last heinous act is committed during the Gamble era, at the remaining breaths of Kripke’s spn before the show begins to reinvent itself.
Who, then, are also Kripke era fans in modern Supernatural, represented by Becky?
Dabb’s writers.
You know, I PROMISED myself I wasn’t gonna let myself go down this hole, but seeing everyone else’s comments, I feel the need to mention that I rewatched the scene with Cas and the pastor from 15x15, and it fits with this so perfectly. Behold, the transcript of the part of the scene that occurs after they’ve gotten the case-related stuff out of the way:
Cas: You really care about these people, don’t you?
Pastor: It’s kinda part of the job. My wife, she grew up in this church and loved it. They were a bit more hardcore back then. Chalked everything that happened up to “God’s will” and never seemed to realize that–
Cas: God just doesn’t care.
Pastor: I was going to say that “we all have to take care of each other.”Â
Cas: Right.
Pastor: Anyway, I sold the building, moved us here, started to preach a gospel of love and service to our neighbors. Now as long as people are willing to help as much as they can, all faiths and backgrounds are welcome.
Cas: What do you mean by…um…backgrounds?
Pastor: Connor didn’t have to live in fear of who he was–a gay man who believed in a tolerant God.
Cas: Well, I imagine not everyone was happy with the change.
Pastor: …not by a mile. But it doesn’t matter. A saint is a sinner who keeps trying.
Cas: *nods*
Now tell me that doesn’t sound like a writer trying to explain to us how the show has evolved through time to be about so much more, how the will of God (the network) isn’t as important as its effects on real people, how its queerness finally had a place to go but was killed along the way because of hardcore people who were resistant to change, how EVEN THEN (note the bolded text) we still have to make the attempt and do everything we can and keep pushing for what ground we can gain because, at the end of the day, the attempt is what matters.
And to top it all off, they gave us this speech from one of the icons we associate with bi!Dean, the actor who played Dr. Sexy.
It wasn’t until I rewatched the scene with our newfound post-15x20 hindsight that I finally understood why they chose him to play the pastor in this episode. It wasn’t until I rewatched it that I understood why they chose to kill a young gay man at the start of the episode. It wasn’t until I rewatched it that I realized the significance of having Cas be the one to take this case and have this conversation with the Pastor.
It’s all starting to make so much fucking sense, and it HURTS LIKE HELL, but at the same time, I appreciate the semblance of hope I now can take from this scene–a saint is a sinner who keeps trying.
