I feel like that bernie meme because I am, once again, thinking about Roy/Tim!!(and hoping you're okay with me asking you about them?)
I just can't shut up about these two and I love to hear all of your takes on them <3
what about something like a secret lovers au? where they met when Tim was really young (I'm imagining super early Robin days but if you have any pre-Robin ideas I'd be so fascinated). I feel like Roy would be somewhat skeptical of a third Robin but obviously our boy wins him over. they start a little tryst which maybe started off as just physical attraction but it grows into being even more when they take comfort from each other after long missions and bitch about JL together. I feel like they'd be kind of on and off through the years (ugh the reunion sex is >>>>)
and at some point they don't even bother to hide it. they go to each other's apartments and team up and maybe even fuck in the manor and at WE?
but no one catches on for an absurd amount of time after they decided they're really in this
maybe the others find out when Tim gets pregnant? or maybe it all gets out when they find the two necking in a closet or something idk the possibilities are endless and all so satisfying
hope you're doing well!! xx
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i would never turn away a roytim ask because I do truly love the ship!!! it's a shame there's so few fics about it and ive never been able to come up with a cohesive plot for them. outside of the bats roy is my favorite to pair tim with!!! (yes that includes kon they're really great together but roytim just carries that wonderful forbiddenness that makes it so much more interesting!)
I love the concept of roy meeting tim when he's robin but can also see them meeting prerobin. tims the neighbor and all bug houses look alive so maybe roy stumbles through the gates the first time he's visiting dick's house and knocks on the door only to be greeted by a chubby cheeked little kid who tilts his head up at tim.
roy figures out pretty quickly he’s got the wrong house and scurries away while a baby closed the door.
years later roy catches wind of a new robin and well....roy's not sure what he feels. a lot of the original titans had all felt that there was no replacing the original when the second robin (the few times they met roy had the kid's back and the kid always shot him that grateful grin so it's not like roy was opposed to having him around) came on the scene but after the kid was murdered...
well it seemed in poor taste to hold on so ardently to a mantle that wasn't even theirs. plus roy has other shit going on, personal shit so he's not very concerned with a gotham newbie. so roy is fine with the kid. maybe a bit weary like he is about all new heroes because they have a tendency of coming on all cocky before getting pounded down to size pretty quickly.
roy hears a few things through the grapevine and rumor mill. the few times he and wally cross paths and meet they catch and wally tells him about dick's new kiddie brother.
"real sweet if a bit skittish" wally tells him and that's all roy tells him.
roy learns everything second hand about the third robin. the first time he talks to him is when he seeks him out. word on the street is the kid is quite the whiz at detective work. like a mini-batman.
that's the only thing that puts roy off form seeking him out immediatly. it's only when he's got nowhere else to turn that he goes to him.
he and ollie are on the outs.
no way is he fucking going to batman.
but he needs someone with a finger to the pulse of gotham crime because he has a few people he's looking for that might've fled to the famed city of the bat.
the third robin is...surprisingly easy to work with.
within the day roy has a location on his three targets and all he had to do was swear he wouldn't rough them up too badly.
roy knows he doesn't have the best reputation in the community. knows that some of the more 'straight-laced' heroes look down on him completely for the drugs and the having a kid and being a single dad thing.
he sure as shit knows ollie doesn't brag about him at parties.
he and dick haven't gotten on for awhile. they used to be so close with the whole 'only titans without powers' thing. but puberty and adulthood changed both of them and roy will admit the two of them are quite prideful so an apology is not visible on the horizon. but they can still work together even with the bit of tension between them.
roy knows for a fact the bat would never approve of him working or asking his robin for help so roy is grateful when the kid agrees to keep it under wraps in exchange for dinner.
roy buys the kid takeout and watches as he munches on an eggroll and prints out a stack of surveillance photos and the current location of his target.
it's nice company. roy hasn't had that in awhile. the kid doesn't talk down to roy or treat him like a moron. they had a pretty great conversation about some of the alien tech the bozos roy is hunting got their hands on.
roy lets the kid hold his bow. his swallows a mouthful of shrimp fried rice as small gloved hands delicately stroke the metal wire of his bow and the small, almost invisible bolts that hold it together.
he's a sweet kid. like wally said.
roy decides he likes him when the kid helps him tie up his guys and throw them in the back of a rented van.
maybe one meeting isn't enough to judge someone's character and roy doesn't have a history of good judgement. but he likes the kid.
he's earnest and honest and a bit of a do-gooder, the kind that isn't annoying.
the next time roy has a something that crosses close to gotham's borders he calls robin.
he needs a second opinion on some alien tech?
call robin. oh he can't help with that? that's fine robin knows some people, he'll call in a favor.
robin does that a lot. favors for roy.
roy almost feels bad, feels like he's taking advantage of the kid. he tries his best to repay it. food, and some little souvenirs when he has work overseas.
the kid grins and happily accepts it like it's anything compared to the time roy desperately needed a sitter and robin offered to stay a few hours in the city to watch the kid.
maybe it was a testament to how much robin had squirmed his way into roy's good graces since he didn't even hesitate to leave his sleeping daughter in the other vigilante's care.
something he didn't even do with people he's known for years.
roy's not quite sure when they transition to something more.
maybe its after roy's settling into a new apartment waiting for robin to come pick up some info about movements on the gotham mob roy had stumbled across. lian is at daycare and roy's just in some boxers with all the windows cracked open and his stereo blastic profanity-laced music he never plays when lian's little ears could hear it.
warm summer is wafting in along with a cool breeze when his doorbell rings and at first roy thinks its the pizza he ordered ten minutes ago.
but he opens the door to a civilian clad robin wearing thick sunglasses to obscure his eyes.
his shirt is one of the metal bands roy hasn't listened to in years and his pants are dark-washed jeans with white crew socks visible at the ankles.
it's such a casual encounter. it's one they've had multiple times before.
there's some traffic on the street and the sound of beeping car horns fill roy's eyes as a presents a flash drive of everything he collected.
roy is explaining what he saw and how he came across the info when he feels robin's eyes on him.
of course robin is listening to him speak and ergo looking at him but roy can just feel the weight of the stare on his bare chest scattered with red chest hairs and a nice thick happy trail that led into his boxers.
his scars are visible all along his torso along with the scattering of tattoos his uniform usually covers. lian's name is printed in gothic script right over his heart.
but that's not what robin's eyes are on.
roy feels a burning gaze locked on his prominent package. roy can see the shy blush that stretch to the kid's ears and trails off as a wide grin creeps across his face.
oh to be fourteen again and in the midst of puberty.
roy had just meant some honest ribbing, a bit of harmless flirting.
robin blushed so pretty. the vigilante who usually spoke so clearly and concisely with a slight undertone of demand was now stuttering as roy leaned in closer and trapped him against the countertop with his half naked body.
roy wasn't certain when the line blurred.
he always knew he was a scumbag. but he really solidified that by banging a teenager on the couch of his apartment.
roy at least had the mindset to use a condom as he fucked into a tight little pussy as robin scrambled to cling onto him.
gasped 'ahh hnnn mmnnn' sounds floated into roy's ears as he grunted with every thrust into that cunt.
roy gripped hips hard enough to bruise and tugged robin's sweet little cunt down onto his cock as he groaned.
his fingers mercilessly abused a little red throbbing clit, thumbing it and rubbing out a nice orgasm for the kid who ended up losing their virginity on a ratty couch in a ratty apartment to a scumbag hero who apparently now fucked teenagers.
roy has beaten the shit out of men who did what he did as he waved robin goodbye when he left his apartment, flash drive in hand.
a man in their twenties creeping on kids barely into highschool is a huge no-no. ask anyone with a cape and they'd tell you the same thing.
roy likes the kid, he really does. not enough to risk fucking jail time or getting the shit beat out of him by dick or batman or any horrifying combination of the two.
robin is lowkey. he promises to keep this a secret without roy having to ask even though he was working on it and it -whew- wow it makes him feel like a piece of shit.
roy pushes it out of his mind. tries to bury it alongside the mountain of mistakes that weigh on him because how fucking like him. to fuck up a perfectly decent burdgeoning partnership.
roy doesn't avoid robin. not exactly.
he just becomes more of a last resort. and roy would like to say he buried what they did that day in the back of his mind but it...rears up sometimes.
late at night when roy is alone and a little horny. he tries to use por as much as he can but the memory...fuck the memory of that hot vice of a cunt. the way robin had squirmed under him, little tits turning red with the abuse of roy sucking on them harshly.
robin had a sweet body and his fit perfectly in roy's arms as he pinned him down and fucked into him.
it's a few months later they get a repeat.
aliens. fucking aliens. it's always fucking aliens that property damage skyrockets.
roy's just at one of the reserve camps awaiting to be directed or deployed to clean up crew, med evac, civilian evac. the entire crew of YJ is there and one by one they all get called away until its just him and robin -now tim, roy now has a name for that face that greets him on lonely nights.
roy knows he's staring, eyes lingering. tim turns to look at him, eyes as heavy and interested as they were that night.
roy comforts himself with the fact that its not teenagers he has a thing for. just tim. tim and his tight body and hot cunt. and tim just so happens to be a teenager.
thankfully for roy tim happens to have a thing for roy too. roy and his big dick and happy trail that presses flush to tim's reddened cunt as roy's cock splits him over while bending him over a counter.
it's a fast fuck. just a quickie. ten minutes later while they're cleaning themselves up tim gets called away.
he turns, steps already marhcing him out the door before he stops for a moment turns and says-
"you have my number, right?"
roy swallows thickly and nods.
then he's back to marching and that's as much permission to be a full blown sleaze as roy needs.
roy will admit, with only some shame, that he is definitly the kind of guy to send dick pics without hesitation once asked.
and tim doesn't even have to ask.
it's been so long since roy's been so fucking horny for someone that reciprocated it. and tim, well tim is definitely getting some hot, stringless sex out of it too.
roy will be alone in a city on a job. he'll tug his cock out and jack it to hardness before snapping a pic and sending it to tim.
'miss u' he writes. like a fucking douchebag he's been told. 'do u miss me?'
tim replies back in the affirmative and roy instantly starts borderline begging, asking for tim to send him a little something his cock is fucking hard and it hurts pretty baby. it hurts so bad :/.
tim sends back a picture of his tank top pushed up with his cute little tits on display.
'Feel better now?' he replies and roy tightens his grip on his cock as he types with one hand.
'maybe a little more bby'
a minute later and roy groans as he's greeted by the sight of two of tim's fingers spreading open the lips of his cunt to expose his wonderfully wet pussy.
and roy pumps his cock until he's arching off and moaning into his empty hotel room.
tim's nude game is other worldly. it's almost artistic with the composition and the lighting. tim's cunt should be in a fucking art gallery.
sometimes he sends roy pictures of him in his underwear, some of him in bed groping his tit and fucking fingers into his hole.
one time he sends roy a one minute video of him fucking himself on a glass rob dildo, pumping it into his red little cunt while making the sweetest fucking moans in the world.
roy spends the day inside just jacking off until his cock sputtered pathetically.
the next time roy is in new jersey he makes a pit stop in gotham. tim's parents are out of town and for the first time roy sees his room. though he's not able to appreciate the blade runner posters, comic book collection, and mountain of laundry on a spare chair until the next morning.
tim is naked and half asleep even as he grinds his cunt onto roy's bare cock. and nope, roy's learnt his lesson from that.
" i am on birth control you know." tim tells him as roy stops nibbling on his tit to pull on a fresh condom.
roy just grins down at him and nuzzles his neck, kissing away his pout.
"baby if any boy ever tells you its okay if he doesn't use a condom just because you're on birth control i want you to turn his nutsack inside out."
tim lets out a half chocked laugh that turns into a moan as roy rubs a thumb against his clit and fucks into him.
it becomes habit for them to hook up.
roy's amazed they manage to get away with it. sometimes they meet in gotham. other times tim goes to meet roy wherever he is.
they don't always work out though. sometimes roy gets his life together and manages to get a steady girlfriend.
sometimes other people (better people) notice tim and he's taken off the market too.
but love is cruel to them and even to tim who roy honestly believe deserves better than to have rebound sex with him.
but tim loves it and so does roy. and being able to explore each other's bodies, and feel out new scars and new tattoos is just a different kind of intense.
roy misses the way tim's pussy parts for him when he slowly pushes in, misses his gasps and sweet coos as roy fucks him hard and fast.
tim makes a sight for sore eyes on his knees and pawing at roy's jock to get access to his cock to take into his mouth. and tim has the sweetest tasting pussy that roy's ever eaten. he moans between his spread thighs as he fucks his tongue into that well-loved hot little hole.
life sucks but there's always good sex to make you feel better.
roy's not saying their relationship is easy but it's one that they never stress over because they never define what they are.
but they get along. they like the same things, and dislike the same people. they wish each other the best and try to keep things from souring between them.
in many ways each other is the only one they can turn to. keeping a secret between them tends to draw them together and forage an odd bond between them.
roy and dick reconcile at some point and roy feels a little guilty at the fact that he's fucking the guy's baby brother behind his back. but not enough to actually tell him (roy would like to keep all his teeth thank you very much).
and roy likes tim so he's more than a little ticked off when he hears about things growing sour in gotham.
he and tim's physical relations have waned a bit. prometheus's bombs in star city landed lian in the hospital with a coma and roy hadn't been in the right place to be around...anyone.
in that time things go pretty shittily for tim too. roy wonders if its too late to send a card but then bludhaven explodes and the memory of star city and lian just send him right back to the bad place.
even if he could reach out. roy was sure tim wasn't doing well enough to support them both.
roy has beef the JL it's something that grows hot and fierce when he hears whispers about robin- now red robin- having gone off the deep end.
the source? his own brother, nightwing- now batman.
there's a new robin in gotham and roy is...fuck he's not sure what he feels. it's not his place. not his fight. not his family.
lian is out of her coma and in for a long recovery with having to relearn how to walk, how to read, how to fucking speak.
the next time roy raises his head out his ostrich hole, cheering lian on as she takes her first unassisted steps, it's to the sound of a newly reinstated batman.
roy's too far away to know the details and hear everything going on. but that doesn't stop the simmer of pride that erupts in his chest.
he always believed in the pretty baby.
lian starts making leaps in her recovery and roy is not about to depend on outside help for his daughter so starts taking high paying jobs to pay for all of lian's rehab.
oh there was a poor taste 'like father like daughter' joke in there somewhere and roy knew he was going to be drawing blood from the first person who made them.
roy crosses paths with a "reformed" jason todd aka red hood.
roy knows about him from titan's tower. his opinion would be lower of him if the two of them didn't get on like a house on fire. roy works some jobs with him, exchanges stories, and builds up a nice friendship. roy's daughter is a safe topic, jason's got a soft spot for kids. but with kids comes family talk and both roy and jason could find kindred spirits in being estranged.
they share similar grievances.
they even share simialr issues with dick's...dickishness.
"you lucked out with tim at least though."
and roy feels the tension before he sees it. it's a dangerous path to treat, talking about tim who is a stand up guy because he is to the guy who sees him as a replacement but jason surprises both of them when he says-
"i haven't exactly been the...best guy to the kid."
roy knows its not his place. knows that he has no right to interfere with anything relating to tim's family and personal life because that's crossing a pretty firm boundary but then he thinks of tim. of that new robin and the fact that he spent a year being ostracized by nearly every hero.
so roy...just tells jason the truth. about how tim's understanding. how he's all 'do no harm but take no shit'. he's straight-laced but surprisingly bendy (in more than one way but roy doesn't say that) willing to work with you. i mean he helped roy out a tight spot a few times.
roy doesn't mention the sex. probably not a good idea to tell that to somone who'd probably blast his dick off if he found out that grown man roy harper fucked a pink-cheeked fourteen-year-old robin.
roy and tim's reunion is...a nice one. roy's in gotham to take lian to a specialist appointment. he meets tim in the cafeteria. they both stumble to a stop at the sight of each other.
roy tells him why he's there and tim's there for outreach purposes, WE work.
they have coffee. chat a little. nudge smiles and small laughs out of each other. speak in code so they can bitch about and roll their eyes about the justice league.
roy is in gotham for the week. he meets up with jason a handful of time and jason takes lian to some new park constructed in crime alley for the kids.
roy texts tim while he's gone, keeping the conversation they had at the hospital going.
roy's emotions have been rubbed raw for awhile. he hasn't been intimate with anyone for over a year.
the sex they have is different then the rushed frantic fucking where they sought their own pleasure.
he and tim spend quite a few minutes kissing on roy's hotel room bed. roy feels out tim's body, groping and squeezing and feeling his flesh as tim does the same.
they don't peel their clothes off in some sexy little strip tease like the ones roy jokingly did for tim.
their clothes stay mostly on aside from roy unzipping and pushing down his pants and tim doing the same with his slacks. they hold each other, wrapping hands around each other's backs in a deep hug while they softly kiss and roy fucks tim slowly.
tim rocks on his cock, occasionally pulling away from the kiss to let out a soft moan and rock his hips back in time with roy's thrusts.
they both cum quietly just two silent gasps and tensed shoulders followed by some trembling as they went slack.
they've both had a...hell of a time.
it felt nice, felt safe to go back to something they knew. to something they liked.
a half an hour later and its like a switch has flipped and roy doesn't know what to grab or fondle first as tim desperately moans on top of him, whipping his hips back and forth as he rides roy. tim sinks down on him with thick, wet, 'squelches', gasping and moaning as roy holds ontol his hips and tugs him down onto his cock.
it's desperate, it's hot, it's so fucking good.
roy almost limps on his way to pick up lian, his cock is fucking spent because tim's pussy could knock a god out.
jason stares at him with a raised brow before rolling his eyes and handing a giggling lian back over to him.
lian waves good bye with a happy 'bye uncle jason!'.
lian goes to her appointments, tim stops by for coffee and then roy takes them both out for ice cream afterwards.
the night roy is leaving the city tim texts him to meet on the hotel roof where red robin gives him a wonderful goodbye present.
roy has no idea who taught tim how to do that thing with his tongue but he will forever be grateful.
he and tim start texting agian. not as much photo exchange goes on like it did in the beginning. tim directs him to high-paying jobs that will keep him close to lian. tim asks about lian, about her recovery and how she's doing. what she liked.
a few days later packages with lian's favorite candies and flowers show up along with a little stuffed bird robin which accompanies her on her phsical therapy.
roy is probably toeing a very dangerous line. maybe for everyone else it would've been better if it was just sex. but now roy feels something.
he feels happy when he sees a text from tim. is excited to see him because he wants to know how he is.
a physical affair is one thing. roy gets the shit beat out of him for having one with tim and everyone moves on.
an emotional affair is a whole different ball park.
roy's hardly had a healthy relationship before in his life. he has...baggage. he has a kid. and tim is...fuck tim is still so young.
he has a whole life ahead of him and roy and...whatever they are would just be dead wight.
it's one of the first arguments they both have. tim insisting that he can make his own choices and mistakes and he whole heartedly believes that roy is nothing close to resembling a mistake.
roy tells him about the issues with all of this. how they started this when tim was just a kid and that was wrong, he knows that was wrong and out of everything he does regret doing that. but tim doesn't yield.
he tells roy what he feels. and they're all the things that roy feels. that happiness at the mention of him, that fluttery feeling in his gut when he sees him, that excitement when he talks to him.
tim likes roy just as he is. wants roys just as he is.
and maybe roy is selfish to snatch tim up when someone so much better could come along but....dammit roy wants to be selfish.
they don't sneak around like they used to.
tim refuses to sneak around with roy. he says it makes him feel like he should be ashamed of roy.
and he'd never be ashamed of being with roy.
they don't...explicitly tell anyone.
really everyone else kind of just assumes stuff about them.
if anyone sees them in gotham together they just assume roy is present for some jason related reason. when tim is seen in star city its gotta be for a case, right?
lian has her own room in tim's penthouse apartment. roy keeps his favorite brand of coffee beans and his toothbrush is in a cup beside tim's in his bathroom.
on christmas, a part is held at wayne manor and roy, pretty clearly, kisses tim under the mistletoe in front of several heroes.
more than a dozen people see tim lead roy up the stairs to his old bedroom.
tim is...fuck tim is roy's best relationship he's had so far. it's like a light of realization fills him and he thinks 'oh. this is what this is supposed to be like!'
roy and tim build something together. a nice little life. one with peace and support and love.
tim is one of the emergency contacts on lian's medical and school forms.
roy and red robin frequently team up outside of their respective cities. they have each other's backs. always.
both jason and dick tell roy they it's nice he gets along so well with their brother and part of roy burns to tell them that it's not just that.
roy's not sure how they could be more obvious.
they're definitely not hiding it or subverting it or trying to frame it as something with plausible deniability.
it's pretty obvious he and tim are together. even more obvious that they're fucking.
roy once read something about people being willfully blind or dense about things they didn't want to learn and honestly thinks that must be the case.
however not a single shred of doubt remains when tim tells his family and friends that he's pregnant.
at some point he and tim had stopped using condoms. they weren't exactly looking to get pregnant but wouldn't be against it if they did.
it's several months of roy fucking tim raw before it manages takes.
bruce stares at tim who is cutting up grapes for lian.
dick choked on the bite of a pear he took and is trying to clear his throat.
alfred is frozen where he's drying a plate.
damian is staring and jason shares his incredulous expresson.
the only one absolutely bursting with joy is lian.
"i'm gunna be a big sister?!"
that's when eyes fill with something. dots are connected, realizations are had, situations they'd walked in on now have new context.
"you fucked tim?" dick asked dangerously. "you got my little brother pregnant?"
roy is strategically placed beside tim who would absolutely never let anything happen to his sweet love and baby daddy.
"been fucking for years dick, keep up."
tim is newly 18. newly legal. now it's not just dick's eyes that are locked on roy like they're homing missiles.
okay so maybe his baby mama would let something happen to him.
in the end tim does protect him even with eyes and glares narrowed on him.
dick is muttering and glaring somehow stuck between a weird in between of celebratory for tim's pregnancy, indignance at the father, and indignance at tim being pregnant at 18.
jason, because he's roy's dearest friend and wants him to be happy, contents himself with a deep punch to the gut that leaves roy dry heaving over the toilet for half an hour.
bruce is not so easily swayed. roy knows bat are nosy but he learns exactly how much when batman posts enlarged photos of the nudes he and tim exchanged years ago, but some are more recent.
"how old were you here?" batman asks tensely.
tim raises a brow and asks if bruce really looked at his nudes and chat history with roy.
the rest of the family is staring up at the photos with gapes mouthes.
batman and tim get into an argument and the minute the word 'fourteen' slips out, jason is cocking his gun and pointing it at roy.
"well it really was nice knowing you, i don't say that to a lot of people just so you know."
tim slaps jason's arm but doesn't manage to stop the punch that dick threw that broke roy's nose.
the bats glare at roy as tim fusses over him in the medbay and throws occasional glares over his shoulder at dick who looks like he's wilting further with every look.
tim is a good talker. a better one than roy and within the hour roy's nose is splinted and bandaged and hazy with the fresh apologies from tim's brother's ringing in his ears.
now tim is a genuinely nice person. that doesn't mean he's not petty.
no one looks at them during breakfast after a night of being forced to listen to tim's cries as roy 'disrespected' tim in every possible way tim could think of.
now tim was a very smart person. so there were a lot.
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