Narnia | My opinion on Caspian & Lilliandil relationship
3 Years Later: My final take on Caspian / Ramanduās daughter and why I dislike it.
So Iāve been on the Internet for years and have been in many debates about this so now I will finally give a more clear take on my opinion about this relationship of Prince Caspian / Lilliandil relationship. Also why I decided to make it canon in my story, for the reasons you donāt expect. Iām gonna call her Lilliandil because I wonāt just say Ramanduās daughter again and againā¦
First before you ask me YES. Iāve read the book and especially the line where Lilliandil appears. Well not the actual book, the audiobook I mean which is same thing. So you canāt use that argument :)
In the movies itās not even a real thing weāre seeing so thereās not much to tell. Sheās just being simped by men and sheās not really doing anything but giving information. Caspian with Susan had more potential in the movies and I donāt say I prefer this ship either. Laura Brent was good on the role though.
In the books we get more dialogue that posted me off. Caspian dismisses girls because theyāre not good enough and then comes Lilliandil to which he says āaw youāll be mineā the first time he sees her. No depth, No development, no character arc, no emphasis, ANYTHING. No disrespect to Lewis, I too write stuff that may not make sense and every story has one. And I do love lots of his other themes just not that. I know this is classic medieval romance thing and it was popular in the 50ās but it doesnāt seem itās a positive thing for todayās generation.
Lilliandil is basically an NPC (Npcs are ai placed characters in video games that you can interact with and have dialogue, like a merchant you buy weapons from but just exists without any effect whatsoever.)
She is an npc whoās only built to be awesome, cute, beautiful and perfect and she shows no personality, no character arc whatsoever. Everyone loves her because sheās beautiful and⦠thatās why. Also because of her dad being a star so idk. Then Caspian loves her because sheās pretty and⦠that only. we have only mentions in the silver chair about her being a nice queen and Rillian avenging her. So not much.
I donāt hate her, donāt say I do. And this is because I have nothing to hate. I canāt hate a character in one chapter that only says what happened in Aslanās table and that she also likes Caspianās compliments. Thereās nothing to love or hate so thereās no personality displayed anyway. I can hate Jadis because sheās a psycho and a child abuser sure, at least Iāve got more than one page for that development. I can hate⦠idk Joffrey Baratheon because heās a little psychotic shit. I can hate Lord Voldemort. Thatās because Iāve seen things from them.
Maybe there is some depth and character in her but Lewis didnāt give it fully to us so I canāt do anything about it. Lewis wrote Caspian and the other narnian characters much better. Any statement that she has some personality is only fansā assumptions because they want to see it happening. Iāve even seen someone making comparisons and similarities with Danteās Beatrice which⦠come on. In my opinion Iāve seen actual npcs in games that have actual character development.
I donāt know what others see that I donāt and praise it so much and have tried to downplay my Caspian x Oc in the past where they yapped about how good it is. I donāt know what is so admirable and so praised that I am missing and then get attacked for, me and others. For saying that I donāt see any context to a character that has so little mention and development that I canāt see such a bad written relationship work.
I also hate the fact that Caspian rejected many girls just and only to go with that pretty girl and just instantly flirted right away with Lilliandil and married her in a short period of time. People see depth in it besides the whole medieval love thing and I suppose the GenZ has missed that. And Iām not feeling at loss. I too can have a perfect boyfriend but you know where Iāll find that archetype? In character ai. Because real life doesnāt work that way and it only worked in times where women were in the same place as horses.
This honestly is also a bad example to younger audiences both boys and girls. Hereās why:
Message to boys: Go only for pretty girls because thatās important and then when you meet one immediately have a relationship with them, they Will definitely like you and definitely enjoy your simping attitude.
And to girls:If a boy finds you pretty and tells you to accept him, you HAVE to accept it because you ought to be kind to everyone even boys you donāt know. And also only if youāre pretty you will find a boyfriend. If youāre not perfect visually you have disadvantages, Iām sorry but you wonāt get anywhere in life.
And also this perfect girl archetype without any effort is also disturbing:
Lilliandil in the books is this always beloved girl who charms everyone with her beauty. Edmund says to her āWhen I look at your face I believe anything you say. Itās just like a witch.ā
I HATE characters that get admired without any reason whatsoever! Susan was beautiful but she had a personality and a character arc. Like Aurora (sleeping beauty), Cinderella or snow white. Donāt mind me I donāt hate specifically pretty characters. Daenerys Targaryen is pretty too but itās because she earned it and sheās admired by all the right reasons. Yennefer of vengerberg is pretty and she fought and earned peopleās respect and never let them undermine her personality because of her beauty.
This issue applies in real life where beautiful girls do get all the attention and their personalities often get dismissed automatically. In real life thereās no much you can do but in literature or media this archetype pisses me off and Iām glad itās finally going outdated.
Now you maybe have seen me in my other posts where I tried to push my ship with Caspian with one of my ocs, Ellita. But at this point I decided to make Caspian and Lilliandil a canon but for the reasons of stigmatisation. I want to give Lilliandil a real personality, a character arc and also flaws with consequences. Yes she is Caspianās wife he fell in love with but in my current story Ellita loves Caspian too and her jealousy, her hatred is what will make her grow into a leader and a queen of a kingdom. This relationship will actually have a consequence, positive and negative and all of this perfection weāve seen will actually end up in something which is a girlās ascension to godhood and then multiple plot points.
Thatās all my yapping. Iām going to make my story of Narnia x Elden Ring crossover where Iāve only posted it whole on deviantart and you can message me to get the link. You donāt have to know anything about Elden ring because itās just the world buildings mixed together and not plots or characters. If you do know Elden ring you might just enjoy it anyway.